170 problems and GSP ain't one
This got interesting.
The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) has had or will have three of it's shows headlined by welterweights and not of them includes a guy you may know, Georges St.Pierre
You know, that French-Canadian who has dominated the 170 pound bracket like UCONN's women's basketball team in NCAA play. GSP has beaten everyone under the sun andis now matched up with interim welterweight champion Carlos Condit for a date to be announced.
The question is how does this injury help the division to be rebuilt and re-brandedwith the likes of Carlos Condit, Nick Diaz (maybe), Jake Ellenberger, Diego Sanchez, Thiago Alves and Martin Kampmann.
It's stacked and that is a damn good thing
On Saturday, Feburary 4th, 2012 the UFC held UFC 143: 'Diaz vs. Condit' and like the Joker in the 'Dark Knight', Condit took all their plans and flipped them on themselves.
Carlos Condit won a heatly debated unanimous decision that has left many wanting a rematch between him and Diaz. I have no problem with the rematch idea but i'dlike to see both compete in different match ups after the lackluster affair.
Actually, i'd just like to see Nick Diaz compete again and based onw hat we have come to know of Diaz he most likely will return to slug it out.
UFC on Fuel 1 is headlined by former Ultimate Fighter winner and former lightweight contender Diego Sanchez vs. Jake Ellenberger. This fight has possible 'Fight of the Year'written all over it with two of the most exciting fighters involved.
Sanchez, has a pace that cannot be matched by many and that includes Clay Guida. He is a 'jack of all trades but, a master of none' when it come sto fighting skills. His one intangible that seems to be his cardiovascular aptitude. We've seen 'The NightmareDream' go balls-out. It may have even stolen him some fights when he should have lost.
Ellenberger, is getting his second straight television main event and he is hoping to bank it for a pay per view headlining gig coming near to you. He is coming off a impressive smashing of Jake Sheilds at UFC Fight Night: 'Sheilds vs. Ellenberger'. His biggest assets are his hands of stone and his sprawl to avoid takedowns. He is built like his nickname 'The Juggernaut' and if you want some well, you will surely hear 'I'm the Juggernaut, Bitch!"
The fight should post the higher ranked fighter and with Jon Fitch getting knocked out at UFC 140 faster than Victor Cruz down the sidelines. I think an Ellenberger win will push him a win away from title contention or a possible rematch with Carlos Condit before the St.Pierre return this fall.
Diego Sanchez like it or not, is a top draw in this game. He was built slowly by the way of Spike TV fights following 'The Ultimate Fighter' and whenever i'm at a bar and he's on the card-people are talking. He may not be a knockout artist but he indeed made a fight with Jon Fitch somewhat exciting.
How many can say that (Except Johnny Hendricks)
Possible match ups based on a win:
Jake Ellenberger vs. Nick Diaz (A fireworks display between two top five welterweights)
Diego Sanchez vs. Johnny Hendricks (One guy with KO power and a guy who will keep moving forward)
UFC on FX 2 features two fighters who have had their ups and downs of the last bit of time. Martin Kampmann vs. Thiago Alves will surely write a lot about either ones fate at ever gaining or in Alves' case, regaining a title shot in the future.
In each fighters past five fights, Alves is a 2-3 with his loses to Georges St. Pierre (UFC 100), Jon Fitch (117) and Rick Story (UFC 130) His wins came over John Howard (UFC 124) and Papy Abedi (UFC 138). His losses were to elite wrestlers and he wasn't stopped. The bad is that he only has one win by stoppage since 2008 when he faced Matt Hughes (UFC 85).
Alves' gameplan is not that complicated and still it's hard to nulify it unless you have amazing wrestling. He was able to not get wrestled by Josh Koscheck (UFC 90) or by Matt Hughes. He has to see what worked there and he has to improve upon that. Nobody wants to stand with Alves unless you think your striking is better which in most cases it is not.
The saving grace is that Kampmann isn't a dominant wrestler but has pretty good trips and takedowns from the clinch. If Alves can bring a pace that Sanchez was able to bring he may be able to overwhelm Kampmann with his striking as it is much cleaner and crisper then 'The Dream's'. He may wnat to strike from distance and use a leg kick to batter Kampmann.
Kampmann is 3-2 in his past five fights and has losses to fomer welterweight contender Jake Shields (UFC 121) and Diego Sanchez (UFC Live: Sanchez vs. Kampmann). Many fans say he should ahve won these fights based on how close theyw ere. Kampmann holds wins over Jacob Volkmann (UFC 108), Paulo Thiago (UFC 115) and Rick Story (UFC 139).
Kampmann usually brings a smart gameplan as he has beaten a wide array of opponents and holds no outstanding flaws much like Diego Sanchez. He has good grappling as he holds a brown belt under much-respected grappler Robert Drysdale. He has skills in striking as he has 7 KO/TKO but only one under the UFC banner. He has gotten caught by Nate Marquardt at middleweight and by British slugger Paul Daley (UFC 103).
If Kampmann is wanting to win then he must avoid Alves on the feet and keep 'The Pitbull' against the cage. He hasn't lost in the UFCby submission so he should have no problem taking this to the ground. The uglier he can get this looking for the fans then he should win.
Possible match ups for either fighter with a win:
Martin Kampmann vs. Rory Mcdonald (If he wins at UFC 145) or Brian Ebersole (Rory and 'Hitman' would be a great test for either. Hitman is slowly becoming gatekeeper and that's thanks to some judges. Hima nd Rory would be afun tussle. 'Hitman' versus Ebersole also would answer a lot for both men. It will either squash Ebersole's rise through decent fighter or prove he is legit should he win.)
Thaigo Alves vs. Jake Shields/Yoshiro Akiyama winner or Dan Hardy. (Alves hasn't won back to back in over two years and if he can get past Kampmann expect the UFC to let him get back on track. Alves is a fun fighter,a fan favorite so getting him over is easy. We saw what Ellenberger could do to Shields and we all accept that Alves is at good-if not better at striking then Ellenberger. Akiyama is fun fighter and at 170 pounds may be a real deal. The possibility of Alves-Hardy would be a slugfest and Alves may prefer this fight as he has a better chin than Hardy.)
So Maniaci's whatcha think?
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Jake vs Diaz wow that would be some fight!
Personally i really hope Diaz/Condit rematch and Diaz wins.Not that ive got anything against Condit but anyone who thinks he has a cat in hells chance against GSP are pissing in the wind.Watching GSP lately and hearing him talk ive come to terms with the fact that he really doesnt like Diaz and that makes for a great fight.His emotions might be running wild during the fight and it only takes one split second and Diaz could capitalise,it could be GSPputting too much into a punch and leaving his chin out or posturing up too far to get more power and leaving an arm out.
Against Condit theres zero hate there so its gonna be MMA 101.Condits not gonna be able to kick because he will get dumped on his head and if hes tries any fancy striking he will get orbitaled to death so all in all it was abad reault for us fans really.Personally if Jake wins and Condit fights again youve got to pair those two up and then Diego against Nick,both coming off losses.
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Losers do not get winners, unless in obvious rematches.
And since Nick did not do anything to suggest he can adapt to Carlos’ style for a rematch he should get the loser of either Ellenberger/Sanchez or Kampmann/Alves.
After watching Condit dance around Nick’s forward plodding style without ever getting cut off, do you really think he has either a shot in hell at being a UFC champion or a successful pro boxer?
I don’t.
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So dancing & running R the same thing nowadays ?
I agree it’d be the same crap. I don’t really care 2 see a rematch & I don’t really care 2 see condit fight anybody after UFC 143.
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+1
good thing i don’t have to pay for the cards, else i would not waste a fucking cent more on condit.
next time he fights, it’ll be piss break for me or better yet, i’ll go out with the gf and do something actually fun instead of watching that trasvesty of a ‘fighter’ and judges
pride never die.
2 decisions in 28 wins and now he is a "travesty of a fighter"??
Dude, you are just pissed that he outsmarted Diaz and didn’t fall into his gameplan. I bet you were one of the people saying he was one of the most exciting fighters at ww just 25 minutes in the ring previously. Dont hate the player, hate the game…Diaz and Condit had to abide by the same rules, and Condit was better.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
Nots that Cuz nick was outsmarted.
Every1 who’s pisses was expecting fight of the year & instead got " out pointing of the month". It was a huge let down. Condit not known for that shit. I won’t by another condit fight just 2 be let the fuck down again.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
LOL, you and unambig should go head butt each other for an hour straight then come back to see if either of you begin to make sense.
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you are butt hurt because Nick got beat, so it is running
I am a Condit fan, so it is dancing.
Either way Nick lost and my weekend was perfect.
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I'm not no butt hurt nick lost.
I went in2 that fight a huge fan of both of’m. I was just really disappointed in the way condit fought. Had he of knocked nick the fuck out i wudnt have complained.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
"Losers do not get winners"
I think you are confusing UFC matchmaking with a tournament format. The UFC’s rationale is “making the fights that fans want to see”. They have never been bound to this winner vs winner and loser vs loser rule.
by otherdarkmeat on Feb 7, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
condit didn't really showed anything to prove he has anything for gsp either
and no, diaz has no shot under the fucking unified rules
pride never die.
Diaz should have to fight Fitch
both are coming off a loss. Diaz needs to prove that he can handle an elite wrestler before he starts barking up GSPs tree again. He’s never beaten an elite wrestler, hasn’t even fought a reputable takedown artist since losing to Sherk, Parisyan, and Diego in his first UFC stint many years ago.
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Great idea. That makes perfect sense to me
I’d also be interested in seeing Diaz fight Pierce or Koshcheck.
by otherdarkmeat on Feb 7, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Diaz would probably
Get wrestlefucked by Fitch and Kos. Maybe even Pierce too. Then he would cry again about how he got held down,and the other person didn’t fight.
They should give him loser of Kampmann and Alves so we can see standup war, so there would be more hype behind Nick. Then let GSP have his way with him.
who cares if he cries about losing to wrestler
He needs to prove he can beat an elite wrestler and 170 has plenty of them. What’s the point of letting him fight GSP if he can’t get past Fitch/Koshcheck?
by otherdarkmeat on Feb 9, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ellenberger vs. Diaz would be awesome
Ellenberger was calling Diaz out recently, calling him a punk and such. It’d be a good fight, but a tough one for Diaz. Plus there’s also the fact that Jake KO’d Nick’s teammate.
Regardless of whether Ellenberger wins or loses, he should get Diaz. Diaz lost in a title fight, and if Ellenberger wins, he’d be the next top guy so if Diaz wants to get a shot at Condit/GSP he should have to beat Ellenberger. If Jake loses, then both guys are coming off a loss and even though it has less title implications, it’s a great fight for either to get back on track!
Love that fight
It be nice to see someone actually with enough guts to go for a takedown on Nick and test his BJJ.
Plus, Jake usually comes to fight.
It would be a war.
Boozer sucks.
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 7, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
yay, interim belt! that condit won’t defend and will just wait for GSP..
So why was diaz vs condit for a belt that won’t be defended?
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by theworldsoldestsport on Feb 19, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions

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