UFC 143 results: Fabricio Werdum batters Roy Nelson into gatekeeper status
Roy Nelson is a tough guy, there's no denying that.
Although he's met defeat several times over the course of his career, he's only been stopped once. The other six times he forced his opponents to fight him bell to bell including last night (Feb. 4, 2012) against the returning Fabricio Werdum.
It was the Brazilian's first fight in the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) since being scorched by current heavyweight champion Junior dos Santos in what was "Cigano's" Octagon debut. Last night's return couldn't have gone better for the Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ) world champion.
He thoroughly dominated Nelson for 15 minutes, using his ever improving stand-up to stifle the American while also busting his face open.
It was an important fight for Werdum as most casual UFC fans only recognized him from Dos Santos highlight reels. He needed a performance good enough to begin erasing some of the memories associated with his knockout loss to the champion while also helping to create new ones. He did that and more last night. Over the course of 15 minutes, Werdum thrust his name onto the list of possible future title contenders while also dropping Nelson even further down the heavyweight ladder.
After their fight at UFC 143: Diaz vs. Condit, the Brazilian could be one win away from a title shot while Nelson might be one loss away from a pink slip.
Including last night's beating, "Big Country" has lost three of his last four; losses to Dos Santos and Frank Mir were equally as brutal for the former International Fight League (IFL) champion. None of the three men could put Nelson away but some would argue it would have been better for the American's longevity if they had. Nelson's toughness could wind up being a detriment as constant poundings very well could be adding untold wear and tear on his body.
Helping Nelson out, though, is the fact he's a The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) winner. If you go by ratings, he can be said to be the most viewed TUF champion in the history of the show. Millions of fans saw him expose Kimbo Slice and then go on to remove Brendan Schaub from his consciousness in the Finale.
But TUF doesn't have the same luster it did a few years ago. In recent months, former winners like Kendall Grove and Joe Stevenson have wound up on the chopping block proving that even those with reality TV muscle backing them up aren't immune to Zuffa's firing axe. Unlike those two, however, Nelson fights in the most anemic weight division in the sport. As a heavyweight, he can withstand a cold streak like the one he's one now. Dropping down to 205 pounds -- as many are saying he should -- strips him of that security and makes him that much easier to cut.
On the flip side of last night's co-main event, Werdum impressively reintroduced himself to the UFC faithful. Werdum also benefits from the shallow talent pool at heavyweight as his next fight could very well be one to determine the next title challenger.
A gaggle of interesting potential match-ups can be lined up for the Brazilian including rematching whoever loses the next heavyweight championship bout. No doubt "Vai Cavalo" would love to exact a measure of revenge on Dos Santos and while his first fight with Alistair Overeem was a bit of a snoozer, their second could prove to be much more interesting considering how well Werdum's stand-up is improving. A rumored match-up between former champ Cain Velasquez and Strikeforce contender Antonio Silva now seems to be dead but the American Kickboxing Academy member could tangle with Werdum, each hoping to get through the other en route to shot at UFC gold.
My money, however, is on Frank Mir. Having won three straight since his knockout loss to Shane Carwin, Mir has established himself as a perennial contender in the heavyweight division. Coming off an arm-breaking submission victory over Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, the former champion seems primed to challenge for the title once more. Who better than Werdum, who Mir touts as the division's best grappler?
While the main event between Carlos Condit and Nick Diaz might have ruined plans for the UFC in terms of big money matchmaking, the co-main event helped soothe some of the pain by creating its own. Nelson has already been established as a good but not great fighter. In the two years he's spent in the Octagon, he's consistently fallen to tougher competition.
Werdum, on the other hand, seems to be entering his prime. His grappling chops can't be denied and his striking game is looking crisper with each fight. All the different puzzle pieces a fighter needs to succeed in the sport are coming together for the Brazilian.
And as he enters the land of UFC giants, it couldn't have come at a better time.
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Werdum vs Mir
then the winner fights for the title..no one else really up there and both guys are coming off wins so why not
What did you think id look like...
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Werdum kicks mirs ass
He has better BJJ and Mir has a weak chin. and im a mir fan
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Correct :)
Werdum would destroy him in the stand up after seeing how much he has improved
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 5, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree.
Mir’s standup is underrated imo. He looked so crisp against Kongo.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 5, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
its hard to judge on how his standup is if he only throws one punch lol
he caught Kongo off guard thats all
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I can see where you are coming from but it is speculation.
He had great head movement and crisp striking. It really seems like Mir’s Kryptonite is big, super strong wrestlers.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t understand how one good night vs nelson translates to werdum destroying mir in the stand-up
"How much more success can I obtain? If the sky is the limit then I'm living amongst the clouds"-letter19
cus mir's standup is shit
there you go
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 5, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
better bjj than mir? didn't they say that about mir's last opponent?
"How much more success can I obtain? If the sky is the limit then I'm living amongst the clouds"-letter19
dont u do BJJ?
if u do, u know how fucking good werdum is. Multiple time ADCC champ, Gi worlds champ. Mir is 10 ten BJJ mma wise. Werdum is one of the top 10 BJJ players period.
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Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Fuck Carlos Starnes "The Natural Born Runner"
yes I do
werdum is great but so is mir and they both just submitted fighters who never lose by submission. Point is I would not declare either fighter to be better than the other in bjj
"How much more success can I obtain? If the sky is the limit then I'm living amongst the clouds"-letter19
Mir is a good black belt
Werdum would make him look like a blue belt. hes one of the best, Mir is no where close to his level
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Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Fuck Carlos Starnes "The Natural Born Runner"
silly opinion...
"How much more success can I obtain? If the sky is the limit then I'm living amongst the clouds"-letter19
accurate
Werdum is on another level. Remember Palhares vs Massenzio? Mas is a black belt, a good one, but Palhares was a great one. Fuck Palhares doesnt even have anywhere near the grappling accomplishments Werdum does. What about Maia? everytime he grapples with a black belt in the octagon(his fight with silva and Weidman dont count since that was all stand up, thus irrelevant) he takes their back and dominates them. Same thing
Pro Sig record:14-6
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Fuck Carlos Starnes "The Natural Born Runner"
won't know unless they fight
"How much more success can I obtain? If the sky is the limit then I'm living amongst the clouds"-letter19
true
Pro Sig record:14-6
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Fuck Carlos Starnes "The Natural Born Runner"
can't really predict how the striking will go
If either gets rocked they could be put into bad spots by either. They could put eachother to sleep but in pure grappling Werdum would be the favourite imo.
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
Sounds about right
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
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reminded me of bisping/sonnen. i ended up gaining respect for the loser in both.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 5, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Werdum has really impressed me with his steady progress. I had lots of doubts about his ability to compete in the upper echelon of the HW division but he really has improved his stand up. Each Werdum fight yields a better fighter than the last. Deadly ground game mixed with good striking could spell a lot of trouble for others in the HW class.
Still would like to see him perfect takedowns and further progress his striking. His clinch was boss against Nelson. He friggin doled out some serious punishment. Roy took a beating in that fight. crazy.
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not for the squeamish here's roys cut
What did you think id look like...
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Long live the dragon!!!
by Octagon Brilliance on Feb 5, 2012 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If he doesn'tdrop to LHW he will be out of the UFC this year.
Werdum was so much bigger than him at the same weight 246
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by jakescissorhands on Feb 5, 2012 2:37 PM EST reply actions
yea i actually thought he would have been cut if he lost to werdum which he did, but i guess they arent going to cut him yet. roy is good but he needs to decide what he wants to do and build off that. either try to make lhw and take off for about a year to do that. or if he wants to stay at hw he needs to still change his physic
I think they should give Roy Nelson that fat Cop from Chicago
I’m not resting until I’m officially Anderson Silva status.- Jon "Bones" Jones
People might call me crazy for saying this but I think big country is a better fighter when he's fat.
Werdum looked pretty dam awesome I think. BC cud have knocked him out tho if he had his fat power behind those bombs.
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Here comes a wave of people ready to jump on werdums nuts
werdum is the most under rated fighter on this site along with josh barnett and I have been saying this forever, and taking so much hate from people for trying to educate them about what a bad man fabricio werdum is. …and surely for the next month or so, he will be everyones favorite heavyweght now.
regardless of the absurd fickleness and dick riding of bandwagon fans, im happy to finally see werdum get the respect he has deserved for the past 6 years
I've always been on Werdums nuts my friend i said before the fight he'd win because he has vastly improved stand up
and all roy has is a right hand :)
Its good to see Werdum get respect like you say, hes improved leaps and bounds
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 5, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt “Vai Cavalo” would love to exact a measure of revenge on Dos Santos and while his first fight with Alistair Overeem was a bit of a snoozer, their second could prove to be much more interesting considering how well Werdum’s stand-up is improving.
Am I the only one to remember Werdum already fought Overeem twice?
And no one wants to see Overeem vs Werdum again, at least so soon…
well
I think Werdum and Mir’s bjj would be possibly equal. Werdum did just lose his last bjj competition to a smaller guy. Plus; Mir may have better cardio.
Jon Jones and Anderson Silva are top 2 p4p.
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