Nick Diaz gets found out
by sz87 on Feb 5, 2012 8:18 AM EST
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PrintSo in his first fight against a legit top WW Diaz get's beat, no surprise there, I was never one to buy into the Diaz hype train. He is a very 1 dimensional fighter with good punches and good submission skills against lower tier fighters, nothing more, nothing less, and when you fight against the elite that's not going to cut it. I have been saying for ages that GSP would have EASILY beaten Diaz, and this result only proves it, as Condit made easy work of Diaz. Some Diaz fans are trying to make excuses saying there is no way Condit won that fight, which is just basic fan boy bias, Condit clearly won that fight, and secondly even if Diaz won the fight, if it wasn't impressive enough or emphatic enough to convince the judges and many other fans, then what's his chances against the best WW out there in GSP? Does anyone actually think Diaz' sloppy fight last night would even be remotely good enough to beat GSP? We all know the answer, GSP VS Diaz was all based on HYPE, nothing more, nothing less, as Diaz himself admitted, he had to to talk trash because that's what get's him the title shot, and as he said, it worked.
But the good thing is we will actually get a legit WW championship fight now, as Condit VS GSP is not simply based on hype, but that Condit deserves to be in there with GSP and brings the skills to be able to give GSP a legitimate challenge.
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BJ Penn is not a legit top WW now???
Kenny Florian is 0-3 in title fights. I am 0-0 in title fights. MMA maths mean I'm better than Florian!
by tap or snap bons on Feb 5, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions
he isn't very good at WW
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
@ tiger he lost to diaz and gsp lmao
1 dimensional fighter nick diaz? What the fuck are you smoking sz87 i would like to purchase some of that .
the question was
BJPenn is not a top WW now? the answer is no. Besides isn’t he retired anyway?
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
I agree. BJ Penn is not a top WW. He retired basically because he was a man without a weight class. Edgar pretty much put an end to his LW career and BJ has never been very good at WW. He just is too small for todays WWs.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
He would still fare better at LW.
I think he could potentially beat everyone there but Edgar, and even still I would never 100% count him out of a matchup with Frankie because their first fight was pretty close. And he just didn’t seem himself in the rematch.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
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actually he retired cause he is a whiney little bitch!
everyone has a wieght class. BJ does this all the time, how many times has he said he is done?, numerous! He just does it cause he reacts irrationally after fights in which he gets his ass kicked. First he congradulates and says good job, then he says he may retire a month later when its all set in he starts making excuses for the loss and trash talking. It never ends with him!
lol
I was actually going to mention this excuse Diaz fans would give….Bj is NOT A WW, he is LW fighting in WW, he is very small in the WW and there was a major size advantage between Penn and Diaz, secondly Bj’s fighting style plays right into Diaz’ hands, which is to just stay standing in front of him and to throw punches, that helped Diaz a lot. But as we saw with Condit, when a fighter refuses to play Diaz’ game Diaz looks SHIT.
and now they start the stupid fucking articles!!!
i wonder when it would start.Im started to fall out of love with mma myself.Condits performance was the stand up equivalent of a wrestlers lay and pray win! More power to him but its being scored wrong and it will get worse from now on.Them stupid little kicks that score so much were pissing me off no end.Bad day all round for mma when it comes to judging.Might as well go into point fighting
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Condit all the way
He threw some excellent leg knee stand up combinations, Diaz didn’t know what to do, or how to handle it, he was out of his depth.
Diaz should stick to fighting bums like Daley so his fans can say how amazing he is.
out of his depth lol the Diaz hate is in full effect
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Ain't no hate
I don’t hate the guy, i’m just saying he’s not a top WW contender, something I have been saying for a while, doesn’t make me a hater.
scott its ok you like bad fighters who arent mature enough to evolve and your probably the same way
like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
"He got knee'd right in the diverticulitis
by Balrog on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 PM PST"
embarrassing post.
anyone with intelligence would know that u don’t get a record like that being an average fighter and if u watched the fight diaz didn’t get “beat” he lost on the scorecards to a top fighter with an extremely conservative strategy to win.
He barely lost to the second best WW
And these guys are saying he’s not a top contender. ha
Overeem is sexy and he knows it.
When a few taps score more than a takedown and back mount, then there’s problems, that’s just commen sense.
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Feb 5, 2012 8:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Taps?
It’s funny how some fans literally create their own alternative reality, those leg kicks were not ‘taps’, they were good solid leg shots.
Watch Aldo and Rua throw kicks.
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Feb 5, 2012 8:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not Every Fighter
Is as good as Aldo and Shogun at throwing kicks, for goodness sakes Aldo is one of the best in the business so therefore any fighter who’s kick are not up to his level= shit taps??
I was watching those against Jones
How did they work out?
Upcoming sig bet with OilCan - Diaz/Condit
Note to self - don't bet against Diaz but I just can't help doing it....again
by hairybumcrack on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
hey Dan
i’m gonna watch the fight again tonight. you do the same. count how many strikes landed by Condit don’t in your mind count as “taps”. i’ll post my results and you can tell me i’m wrong…..we can do a fan post based entirely on rewatching the fight from a judges point of view.
"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow
by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 5, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
Condit didn't fight Diaz last night
Greg Jackson gameplanned him. Diaz is the better fighter, and in my opinion one the fight anyway. Regardless, Condit will be molested by GSP this fall.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
And Diaz
Too would have been molested by GSP, don’t delude yourself, Diaz ain’t no where near GSP’s level, even Shields has more skills to offer than Diaz and GSP made easy work of him while being blind in one eye for around 2 rounds.
no delusion here
I didn’t mention Diaz vs GSP, because at this time, that fight has no relevance.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
Never Had
any relevance from the start, it was all hype pure and simple, Diaz himself ADMITTED that he talked trash on purpose because that’s what he has to do to get the title shot and as he also admitted, it worked. Diaz never stood any chance against GSP, it was never a contest, and was never going to be this all out great fight.
who said it was?
I made a statement base off of last nights outcome. Condit won on the judges scorecards, he gets to fight GSP, GSP is going to beat the shit out of him.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
and the same thing would have happened against GSP
exactly the same thing.
Upcoming sig bet with OilCan - Diaz/Condit
Note to self - don't bet against Diaz but I just can't help doing it....again
by hairybumcrack on Feb 5, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
thank you ST
GJ is single handedly destroying mma,i mean what other idiot could make stephens vs guillard boring?! Not good for new fans guys
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
he is good for the preservation of his fighters
But as a fan, some of his gameplans are extremely aggravating to watch.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
They get paid to win fights. It’s as simple as that.
Sig Bet with Phasebook (Condit vs Diaz)
Watch out Jake, you think you're in a Dream, but you're heading for a Nightmare.....
+1
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
They'll get paid a lot less to win those fights
If nobody cares to watch.
Overeem is sexy and he knows it.
^^spot on^^
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
well then what are the opponents that fight against GJ fighters doing about that?
You can’t blame GJ for destroying MMA if nobody has an answer to strategy.
Upcoming sig bet with OilCan - Diaz/Condit
Note to self - don't bet against Diaz but I just can't help doing it....again
by hairybumcrack on Feb 5, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I am
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
how'd you score it by round....
i had Nick winning 1 and 5
Condit 2, 3, & 4
hardest rounds to judge were 1 and 2 and could have gone either way
"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow
by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 5, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
oh brother.
He is a very 1 dimensional fighter with good punches and good submission skills…
wut?
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
a one dimensional fighter who owns one of the best submission wins in mma history
has taken part in multiple most exciting fights of mma history and has knocked out power strikers (lawler, Daley) and strikers of different styles. One dimensional my ass.
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
take no notice grapplefan
sz87 and idiot19 are consumed by diaz hate
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
a few people in the live event thread mentioned that he would be hated on even if he won, it's inevitable
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
I wanted him to win
I wanted to Diaz to win so he could’ve gotten his ass handed to him by GSP to silence all the Diaz lovers who actually believed that he was on the same level as GSP. But Diaz is too sh!t to even earn himself a shot at GSP, which in of itself testifies to the fact that he has no business stepping in the cage with GSP. Haha where is Ceasar Gracie now that dumb f-ck head douche bag who talked too much? Ain’t talking so loud now, couldn’t even win the interim made up belt.
Me too
Diaz is good but not good enough to fight against someone who comes in with a plan, which was evident last night. Diaz will always do well with someone who has a Pat Barry attitude.
Upcoming sig bet with OilCan - Diaz/Condit
Note to self - don't bet against Diaz but I just can't help doing it....again
by hairybumcrack on Feb 5, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Are you for real?
LOL you actually name Daley and Lawler as if that makes Diaz special? LOL! Submission victories? Yes, against chumps, but against LEGIT TOP CALIBRE WW’s it ain’t happening my friend.
Diaz is out of his league in the UFC, he never stood a chance against Condit, and he never in a million years stood a chance against GSP who would have easily beaten him. Diaz has no tools to overcome the likes of these WW’s, and the proof of what I’m saying was witnessed last night, Diaz tried to submit Condit, even had his back, but failed miserably, you see when you face LEGIT fighters and not some chump, then it’s much tougher to submit them.
But God I really can’t believe you mentioned Daley as if it’s an accomplishment to beat Paul Daley, nice one.
lol
Daley and Lawlor are bums striking now and BJ isn’t a top WW when he’s allowed to fight on the feet (and therefore not be as gassed by being out muscled). Gomi was a bum at the time also. Love this
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
They Are Bums
Yes, they are bums, stop joking to yourself my friend, you are ACTUALLY TRYING to put Daley out there as a legit guy who really counts, lollllllllllllll.
Gomi was a good win, but how long ago was that? The game’s moved on since then and Gomi SUCKS right now in the UFC, just like Diaz sucks, the game’s moved on and neither of the 2 have moved on with the times.
As for BJ, he is not a WW, everyone can see that in his size, where you blind? Did you not see the size difference between BJ and Diaz in their fight? Bj is a LW, that’s where he belongs, that’s where he made his name, and that’s where he built his legacy, so to even try to act like beating him at WW is something special is a JOKE.
Facts are facts, when Diaz DID FIGHT A TOP 5 WW in Condit, he LOST, end of story.
Diaz is the the first opponent i've seen Condit avoid engaging with
I bet most of the top welterweights would trade with Daley, especially ones with a BJJ base. I’m not going to debate with you, enjoy your threads.
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
But you are right
Diaz beats Daley and Lawler, while GSP is out there beating the likes of Shields, Koscheck, Fitch, Alves, Hughes, and all the other top WW contenders of the world, soon going to add Condit to that list as well. Thanks my friend, you just showed the gulf in class, and the difference in the 2, one beats chumps, the other beats legit top quality fighters.
This thread is coming off as trollish
Diaz is an elite level welterweight, not one dimensional at all, and he does have good wins even if people want to discount the level of competition. There’s a reason why so many professional fighters had him picked to win, and I’m sure there’s discontent at all levels of the sport, the fans, about who won the fight.
It’s a lot like Penn vs. Edgar I, you’re going to have people on both sides of the issue.
Don’t downplay Diaz just because you dislike him. I am a bigger fan of Condit than Diaz, I’ve always liked Diaz in the fight but I have never liked his attitude, and throwing a temper tantrum at the end of the fight didn’t impress me.
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
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Elite Welterweight?
Based on what? He hasn’t beaten any solid WW in the last few years. He has beaten:
-Bj Penn (not even a WW)
-Paul daley, (lol, get real)
-Evangelista Santos, (Average fighter, not elite class)
-Kj Noons (lol, get real, and Noons isn’t even a WW is a LW)
-Hayato Sakurai (another average fighter, not elite, plus he was a 2 fight losing streak, and would go on a 4 losing fight streak)
-Marius Zaromskis (another average fighter, not elite)
-Scott Smith (lol, yeah, move on)
-Frank Shamrock (A fighter past his prime and peak, and also fighting outside his established weight class)
-Thomas Denny (lol, get real)
-Mushin Corbbrey (same as above)
-Katsuya Inoue (lol, a top elite fighter eh)
So get real folks, Diaz has not fought and beaten any legit WW, he came up against a legit WW in Condit and lost, Diaz is not an elite fighter, and when he loses his next UFC fight (unless he quits like a loser which will just prove he isn’t elite because real elite fighters don’t quit when it gets tough now do they) everyone will see that. Go on, throw him in with either Koscheck, Fitch, or Hendricks.
With all due respect
because you seem to discount everything he’s ever done, I don’t really hold your opinion with high regard. And I’m sure you feel the same about mine. Let’s agree to disagree.
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
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lol
How am I downplaying what he’s done? Those are NOT elite fighters, facts are facts, you know it, I know it. For goodness sakes you really rate a win over someone like Thomas Denny or Scott Smith, or better yet, a past the prime Shamrock fighting outside his known division? Get real!
His skills far outstretched theirs in those fights
He dominated Penn who even if he isn’t a true welterweight(and I’m a big BJ Penn fan) , is still better skill wise than many of the WW in the UFC who has a better than good chance against 75% of them.
And this fight against Condit, it was a close fight against a fighter who is one of the best in the world, it’s not like he was defeated soundly, it was controversial for a lot of people. I give the fight to Condit, but I can see the case for Diaz because I am trying to be impartial.
It isn’t that he just won those fights, he dominated them, and that is something. Everyone in the cage/ring is the same thing, 85% water, 212 bones and a brain, any fighter on any given night can win.
If the judges had scored the fight differently last night how would you feel about a Diaz victory?
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
actually it depends how many sesamoid bones youve got ;)
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
lol
I was putting out the general number, some say 215, some say 206,
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
I think the truth lies somewhere in between......
I agree with sz87 that Diaz has feasted on a steady diet of mediocre fighters, which is a luxury he can no longer enjoy if he continues to compete in the UFC……but I also think he’s a little better than sz87 is giving Diaz credit for…….he wasn’t winning all those fights by split or UD decision…..he was dominating his opponents, and deserves credit for that.
Diaz has been back in the UFC for 2 fights now, but we still haven’t seen what will happen when he fights a dominant, or solid wrestler (GSP, KOS, Fitch, Hendricks, Pierce, Ellenberger, MacDonald). If there’s a real reason to why he’s “retiring” from MMA, it wouldn’t surprise me if that was the real reason. I’d like to see if his skills have improved there, but it sounds like we may never find out.
Sig Bet with Phasebook (Condit vs Diaz)
Watch out Jake, you think you're in a Dream, but you're heading for a Nightmare.....
I don't buy the retirement thing
He’s just pissed. I am more inclined towards what you’re saying. sz87 in the extreme. I am actually pretty neutral about it and so are you it seems like
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
I hope he stays
So he fights again and get’s beat again and so everyone can see he is overrated and is not a top tier fighter, he is an average fighter who can beat the likes of Matt Brown etc.
I don't buy the retirement thing either....
after watching the PrimeTime episodes leading up to the fight, it’s quite obvious that Nick has a major issue with communicating what he’s thinking and feeling.
Sig Bet with Phasebook (Condit vs Diaz)
Watch out Jake, you think you're in a Dream, but you're heading for a Nightmare.....
Has a major issue
in fighting with top tier fighters too. :-)
Your opinion is too extreme
so I disregard from this point forward most of your statements. You are unnecessarily critical.
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
He dominated
Average fighters, congratulations, that is quite an achievement. When he manages to dominate top tier fighters like GSP has done, dominating fighters like Fitch, Alves, Shields, Koscheck, and Hughes, then get back to me.
He fought a top tier fighter yesterday in Condit, and did not dominate like he usually does, coincidence? I don’t think so, fact is is the tools he has are not good enough to cope with the top tier fighters, all he is is a brawler with some good submission skills, submission skills against average fighters I might add.
he likes to fight. That's not going to change no matter what level of fighter he faces
he’s not a gameplanner
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
Shamrock had to lose 6 pounds
Diaz used to fight at LW, was he fighting a weight class and a half above his usual weight class?
Overeem is sexy and he knows it.
so if "real fighters" dont quit then I guess GSP is a bitch, I remember him tapping to strikes, and openingly admitting he need couseling cause his mental capicity is weak. and I quote " throwing his brick in the river" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Dude you are a fucking retard if you truely believe Nick is not a top WW or even top fighter in general. No weak ass “gameplanning” not to fight and score points. Carlos done just as much talking as Nick, “this is gonna be a dog fight” then turned all Greg jackson weak sauce on everyone.When have you ever see Carlos fight like that before? I wont hold my breath for that one, secondly go look at Carlos last 10 -11 fights, he was gifted the Diaz, ellenberger, and a bs stoppage to Rory! so who had Carlos beat that is supposely “elite” Kim? Prater? Larson? Alessio? Your Post is fucking stupid and just shows your ignorrance, now go back to Jerking off to GSP dickrubbing and jabbing his opponents!
I like bacon...Steelers fo life!!!!
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!! Nick Diaz would mop the floor with GSP and the fight with Sheilds confirms it!!!
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his" Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.I hate Jon Jones..No mas la raza!!! JDS Bitches
Neither Diaz nor Condit have the game to compete with GSP. He can take either down at will, or jab them at distance endlessly.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
by crizzy on Feb 5, 2012 10:01 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
would love to see Diaz vs Kos
whichever way it goes, one douchebag will go down!
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
i just wanna know , in any sport at a high level……..do any of the top people or teams in those sports not work game plans AND still win like you actual victories and stuff? so kos vs pierce wasnt a robbery but this was ? riiiiiiiiiiiggggghhht
like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
"He got knee'd right in the diverticulitis
by Balrog on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 PM PST"
I had Diaz winning round 1, 2, and 5
Most of the pro fighters see it the same and i respect their opinion over mine and any non mma fighter.
This fanpost was just one contradiction after another.
He is a very 1 dimensional fighter with good punches and good submission skills
So he’s good at JJ and boxing? I thought he was one dimensional?
Some Diaz fans are trying to make excuses saying there is no way Condit won that fight, which is just basic fan boy bias, Condit clearly won that fight, and secondly even if Diaz won the fight, if it wasn’t impressive enough or emphatic enough to convince the judges and many other fans, then what’s his chances against the best WW out there in GSP? Does anyone actually think Diaz’ sloppy fight last night would even be remotely good enough to beat GSP? We all know the answer, GSP VS Diaz was all based on HYPE, nothing more, nothing less, as Diaz himself admitted, he had to to talk trash because that’s what get’s him the title shot, and as he said, it worked.
But the good thing is we will actually get a legit WW championship fight now, as Condit VS GSP is not simply based on hype, but that Condit deserves to be in there with GSP and brings the skills to be able to give GSP a legitimate challenge.
All of this. Condit barely squeeked past Diaz. Why is he a legit contender to GSP but Diaz wouldn’t be? You said if they gave the decision to Diaz it wouldn’t have mattered because he barely beat Condit. Now Condit’s a challenge to GSP because he barely beat Diaz? None of this makes any sense. I’m gonna read the comments to see if sense was made today.
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Condit is legit
Because unlike Diaz he is not 1 dimensional, he has lot’s of good tools in his game, and has legit wins over other good WW’s, secondly, he didn’t barely beat Diaz, he was the clear winner, Diaz struggled, not Condit.
It wasn't a clear cut 50-45 fight
And he didn’t hurt Diaz once. The only time that fight was close to being finished was when Nick had his back.
So, no, he didn’t “clearly” win anything. He’s a tiny bit better than Nick and neither of them are close to GSP. So don’t pretend Carlos is a contender and Nick isn’t/wasn’t.
You still haven’t answered how someone that is good standing and on the mat could possibly be considered one dimensional. Are you really bad at numbers or English?
Overeem is sexy and he knows it.
haha
Did you say that Carlos has wins over good WW’s and Diaz doesn’t? Carlos got lucky against a young Rory McDonald. That’s also his best win to date. He did beat Ellenberger (again before he was experienced) and that’s fucking it. After those two it’s a list of nobodies. So the two guys he’s beaten, he beat them in their first fights.
You’re a losing cause. Should just delete your Mania account and save face. hahahahaha
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I basicaly posted something similar to this above, theres no reason to argue with this jackleg jay,
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According to you
Diaz is legit, and Condit beat him, haha so you just debunked yourself and by your own standards just acknowledged Condit beating a legit top WW since that’s what Diaz is in your book. Now go close your account Diaz fan boy, go console Diaz in these hard times, couldn’t even win an imaginary made up belt.
I didn't say Condit wasn't legit, dumbass.
You’re the one saying Condit has an amazing record and Diaz hasn’t fought shit. Diaz is the only top 10 fighter Condit has ever beaten. EVER. Condit wouldn’t have been the only top 10 Diaz had beaten.
You really have no idea what you’re talking about.
Overeem is sexy and he knows it.
Hey dumbass
Maybe you forgot Condit beat Ellenberger, who is top 10. Condit also beat Hardy when Hardy was in the top 10, Condit beat Hardy just after GSP’s decision victory over him, Condit knocked Hardy the F—k out in his own country sending him straight out the top 10. Condit beat Kim Dong, who was on a 6 fight unbeaten streak, and on a 3 fight win streak with wins over Sadollah, and coincidently, Nate Diaz, Nicks’ very own brother. So stick that in your ass, unlike Diaz, Condit beat well established fighters instead of bums like Daley, Smith, and other unknown average fighters.
Diaz sucks, and when he loses his next UFC fight, unless he quits like a little bitch, then everybody will finally realise it, but off course you Diaz nut huggers will come bitching and whining again that he got robbed by the judges, ha ha.
You really are fucking stupid
By not considering Ellenberger to be top 10, and you say I don’t know what I’m talking about? lol, here you go folks, this right here is your average stupid fucking Diaz fan where they have to talk complete shit to make sense of anything.
you are stupid for not considering BJ a legit welterweight after drawing with Fitch
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
Ellenberger was not top 10 when Condit beat him
Hardy may have been at the time, but looking back his record now appears to have been inflated. Kim Dong is not top ten, he beat Amir who is not top 20 and Nate who has proven to be a 155 and awful against wrestlers.
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Ellenberger was top 10?
LOLOLOL
He beat Ellenberger and Rory before they were anybody. Man, you’re legit. Legitimately stupid.
Overeem is sexy and he knows it.
I see you are skipping over the one dimensional shit you said
Typical
Overeem is sexy and he knows it.
He is
one dimensional, when he can’t brawl, he can’t do jack shit but talk trash in the ring, Condit made him look like a fool, and now Condit’s laughing all the way to the big championship fight day, :-D, you can go cry alongside Diaz.
when he gets taken down ... he often submits people and doesn't get subbed himself
but he’s just a brawler?
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
He's got some of the best boxing in MMA
And one of the best at JJ in MMA.
What the fuck are you talking about, stupid? That’s two skills right there, stupid. Can you count, stupid? Are you retarded, stupid?
Overeem is sexy and he knows it.
let me get this right
Are you saying he is stupid? Stop tiptoeing around and just say it then.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
He doesn't brawl. He boxes. I wouldn't expect someone as stupid as you to know the difference. Stupid.
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