How did you score Nick Diaz vs Carlos Condit? Discuss Maniacs.
by tkotom on Feb 5, 2012 4:58 AM EST
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I have to say Maniacs, i thoroughly enjoyed today's main card.
143 was a great card all together with lots of finishes and enjoyable decisions.
Obviously the main card didn't come without controversy but let's see how you all scored it.
Right after the final buzzer I had it 3-2. Upon watching it again and scoring it objectively I am barely able to accept that Condit may have earned 48-47. Personally my final score was 48-47 Diaz. In my mind there is no way that Carlos took the first two and the 5th could very well be argued in Nick's favour. Running does not equal fighting and I don't care how many spinning back fists/elbows you land while Starnes-ing it. Carlos sure did pick up his game in the 3rd and 4th rounds though and that may have swayed the judges..
Props to the new Interim Champ and I hope that Nick doesn't retire. I would love a rematch.
So what say you Maniacs? Who won in your eyes.
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Condit won, undoubtedly.
I literally just watched the fight because I missed it last night, and there was no question about it, as far as I seen.
Diaz moved forward more, yes, but Condit wasn’t exactly moving backwards, he was cutting angles and moving laterally. Condit was also much busier and constantly throwing, whereas at times Diaz was just waving his arms around or throwing half-heartedly.
Condit was always looking for more significant strikes, and he also landed more significant strikes, be it with elbows, kicks or punches. He shrugged off various takedown attempts, and though he was taken down in the 5th round he fought off all submission attempts, broke out of the back-mount and finished the round on top.
Condit won. No question. Anyone that disputes it clearly was not watching the same fight I was.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
agreed
Nick outfronted Condit, but Condit outstruck Nick by a sizeable margin.
Too many fans were hypnotized by Nick’s taunting and walking forward even while getting hit. Thankfully, the judges were not so easily duped.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
exactly people are still in love with nick diaz so its cool
condit won that thing 4 to 1 to me i dont see how nick diaz was winning that fight at all
like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
"He got knee'd right in the diverticulitis
by Balrog on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 PM PST"
+12
I watched it again, and to me it was a no brainer. I gave Condit rounds 1, 2, 3 & 4. I gave Diaz round 5……49-46 Condit.
If Diaz were the Champion going into the fight, i could see where Diaz was “walking Condit down” might come into play in the scoring, as they say, if you want to beat the champ, you have to take the belt from him…..but Diaz wasn’t the champ, and if you look at it that way, Condit easily outstruck him. A weak leg kick will outscore a no-punch or a no-kick every day of the week.
Sig Bet with Phasebook (Condit vs Diaz)
Watch out Jake, you think you're in a Dream, but you're heading for a Nightmare.....
He won the fight, there's no debating who won
what were debating is if he should have won. If he hadn’t won we might be debating if he won.
What I’m trying to say is, the record books say he won. Does that make sense, derp derp?
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
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"as far as I seen."
I/e, in my opinion.
It wasn’t so close in my eyes. Condit clearly won this fight to me.
To each their own.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
That was meant for you TKO :S
Reply fail lol.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
lol well fair enough
i guess it is opinionated to a great extent.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
True that.
And I guess it will continue to be, so long as fighters “leave it in the hands of the judges” as they say.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
Well yeah
This is not one of those fights that you can complain about forever.
It was so close and boring that I will get over it in a few days.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
boring? Seriously?
I thought it was a damn good fight. Just knowing either of those guys could have finished the other at any given moment (in a number of different ways) made the fight very suspenseful. And it certainly wasn’t short on action either.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
Hey my heart was racing don't get me wrong
But once that buzzer sounded i just thought.. damn… what a boring fight.
I mean nothin ghappened.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
I'll prolly re-watch it
but I had it 3-2 Diaz. But it was so close Im not complaining that Condit won. Doesn’t matter anyway, GSP will dominate Condit.
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
That's how i feel too.
There was too much hype around Condit and Diaz..
GSP is just on another level.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
same here i could have given 1 round shared
1 and 5 Diaz,3 Condit.Ok 4 for Condit but 2 was a drawn round at most hence draw being nice.Even GSP looke disgusted.Got a feeling there will be a rematch.Thanks judges and thanks GJ,the man who is singlehandedly destroying mma!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
I'm not so sure, and I'm a huge GSP fan.
GSP is my favorite fighter still fighting, but I’ve always thought Carlos presented a much bigger challenge to him than Diaz. It will be the first time since Penn that GSP has fought someone as well-rounded as himself. Plus Condit has more power and is a lot bigger than Penn (or GSP for that matter). Condit is like a hybrid of all of GSP’s former opponents rolled into one. Kos’ power, Hardy’s size, Fitch’s chin, more KO’s than Alves, more subs than Shields, Greg Jackson’s gameplanning, Carlos is the total package. And he’s already beaten GSP’s protege’ Rory MacDonald.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
Condit lost the first and the last round.
rounds 2,3 and 4 were clearly Condits. this was very cut and dry for me. the only thing i’d say is that i now officially hate the term Octagon Control. to me Condit dictated where the fight took place and took advantage of Nick’s plodding inability to cut the cage off for any advantageous periods of time.
"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow
Running away does not = dictating where the fight takes place
Just saying.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
thats what i thought striking,grappling,AGGRESSION and octagon control
can you count moving backwards as aggression and octagon control? Mmmmm!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Compustrike states Nick outstruck the runner in the 2nd.
Your eyes tell you Condit was backing up the whole time.
Team Sonnen!
compustrike can be flawed as well
i mean what is a significant strike
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Is throwing your leg out to touch your opponent to then run away, showing zero intention of wanting the finish, enough to win a fight? IMO it isn’t, I thought the shots Nick landed, albeit landed few, were more effective than the leg touch Condit was throwing repeatedly. Add to that the octagon control and aggression and I think Nick is the clear winner.
How can you score a few leg kicks over a takedown and back mount? That’s the problem for me, grappling isn’t nearly rewarded as much as it should be. Taking the fight into consideration, who really won? I struggle to see how Condit, with that gameplan can win.
It’s not like he was pushing forward with Shogun Rua leg kicks. Those kicks finish fights and put your opponent on crutches.
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Feb 5, 2012 7:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
yeah i was surprised that the 5th was scored for Condit
when Nick did take him down and nearly sub him
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
even while "running away"...
he managed to strike more. land more. land harder shots by volume. land more combos. land more body and head kicks.
"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow
by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 5, 2012 7:44 AM EST up reply actions
Octagon Control?
Diaz never had octagon control, stop deluding yourself, it’s actually called a TACTIC to often let another fighter just come after you while you frustrate him and move around throwing leg kicks and punches at him, not allowing him to utilise his game plan. So you need to learn what octagon control actually is, Diaz was in NO CONTROL which is why he could never take hold of Condit and keep him on the fence or just land strike after strike on him against the cage like he did Bj Penn.
Secondly, what aggression? There was no aggression by Diaz, when Condit through his combinations he was the more aggressive ones, all Diaz did was try to chase down Condit and couldn’t do so, that isn’t ‘aggression’ that’s called falling for your opponents tactic of chasing him down and getting no result hence simply frustrating yourself and your game plan.
I had it 4 - 1 Diaz
with Condit winning Rnd 4 only. Was disappointed in both fighters, Diaz for not adjusting his gameplan at all, and Condit for refusing to engage.
Overall I thought the judging and refereeing was horrible last night, not just in the Main Event either, it was bad to the point where at times I found myself questioning the legitimacy of the sport, and the UFC’s role in the outcome of fights lately.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
the UFC wanted Diaz to win.
That fight would have made MUCH more money than Condit/GSP. Way way more! Dana says he doesn’t care, but they probably lost 250,000 PPV buys because of this result. They had nothing to gain by Carlos winning this fight, but he did anyway.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
what are you talking about??
what does the judging or refereing have to do with the UFC? Even Dana complains about that shit.
Like shonuff said, I’m sure if Dana could control the outcome he’d have Nick Diaz win. And if Diaz did win everyone would be crying that it was a fix because Diaz-GSP is a big money fight.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
wasn't just the Diaz fight
listen to the way Rogan was blowing Riddle, and what happens? How bout the way he was hanging off Condit’s nuts, and again the judges strike, Herb Dean taking two points away from Leeroy, but only warning Kos after already warning him once, it just makes me wonder is all.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
I missed the Riddle and LeeRoy fights, but what Rogan says has no effect on the outcome...
sure, he may be able to persuade the viewer at home, but judges cant hear him. He was hanging on Bisping’s nuts last fight saying Bisping is taking it to Sonnen…not really.
But with Condit, Rogan was complimenting Condits improvement in the 3rd round….which was true. Condit started moving better and getting some good shots off. Isn’t that what he’s supposed to do?
And as for Kos, I wanted a point taken away for the eyepoke…but maybe thats cuz I had money on Pierce lol. Fuck Koscheck and his takedowns with 30 seconds left.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
it just seems to me lately
that when Rogan is building up a fighter, even when they appear to be losing, that the match is folllowed by a shitty decision, almost like Rogan was really trying to make the outcome less of a controversy.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
Condit 4-1
Condit won the fight, stop being fucking idiots to the Diaz fan boys, you guys are so full of shit just like Diaz, accept the fact that your man sucks, and would have gotten fucked by GSP. But no worries, when Diaz loses his next fight in the UFC you losers will accept the reality.
Opinion or Not
Condit’s the Interim champion and off to face GSP for the big fight day with a nice big pay cheque. Diaz on the other hand is the chump making excuses and threatening to retire like a little girl, lol. :-D
Condit 4-1. He made Diaz look easy.
the only reason why we’re ragging on diaz is because for weeks we’ve had to put up with all this hype of something nick diaz is not. he proved yesterday he’s not a top WW fighting like that and that his attitude personally sucks
like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
"He got knee'd right in the diverticulitis
by Balrog on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 PM PST"
I actually can't stand Nick Diaz
so no fan boy over here, but I also can’t stand the way that fights are currently judged and the fact that FIGHTERS are rewarded for stall tactics and refusing to engage in a FIGHT. UFC stands for Ultimate Fighting Championship, not Ultimate Gameplanning Championship.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
Why
Should a fighter simply fight into Diaz’ game plan? Diaz has a game plan, it’s to get into a fist fight, a brawl, that’s where his strength lies, he wants you to stand right in front of him so that makes you an easy target. So why should someone just play into that, play into the strength of the opponent?
I agree with you, Condit had a good gameplan, but even so I dont think he did enough to get the W.
I was rooting for Condit.
I picked Condit by decision in the fantasy pool.
And I’m not a fan of Nick Diaz. But he won.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
oh, and I put $20 on Condit by decision on Bodog.
won me a cool $80…but i know i got some help by some blind judges.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
anybody know where we can watch the new UFC intro sequence?
I only caught a glimpse of it, but it looked pretty badass
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
he could have avoided Diaz's strenghts with out
running away for 3 1/2 rounds out of 5. That’s not fighting to me, that’s gameplanning for a victory, which is great for him and his career, but bad for me and my wallet.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
my sympathies to you and your wallet aside...
how could Condit otherwise have avoided Diaz’s strengths? do you expect that Carlos will fight this way in the future to preserve the belt? could you blame him for creating an equally as effective yet totally different “boring/scared/tactical” gameplan against GSP?
"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow
by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 5, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
It was clear that Diaz was not himself last night
Condit could have used an Edgar or Cruz approach, in and out of the pocket, lead with a stiff jab, still use the kicks, and get out of the way of damage, problem is he doesn’t have the skillset to pull that off, so he had to run away instead.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
Diaz wasn't himself?
That wasn’t clear to me at all. I saw the same Diaz that I’ve seen win his past few fights: moving forward, talking shit, waving his hands and throwing punches in bunches.
Trouble is that this time he was fighting someone who didn’t fall for it.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
Diaz wasn't throwing nearly the volume he normally does
probably cause he was chasing around Usain Boltin a Carlos Condit disguise.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
Diaz was himself
Condit just didn’t play his game.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 5, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
chael sonnen couldnt have said it better himself
he knows what the f stands for in ufc.Shame the judges and most fighters dont.Its ok for now but it will affect growth imo.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
You're stupid
People are entitled to their own opinion. Just like you are.
Don’t be absurd.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Condit was inneffective in the first 2 rounds, I really can't see how you can award him those rounds
and Diaz won the deciding fifth
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
And Diaz
was so affective eh? the only round i give Diaz is round 2, other than that, he sucked.
wow ... don't know what to say to that, i'll give it a go
Carlos didn’t land much on Diaz’s body or head in 1 or 2, Diaz landed some. Carlos wasn’t controlling the fight at that point, looked edgy and was retreating more than circling.
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
Erm
Head and Body shots aren’t the only areas out there to strike at, there’s strikes against the legs, which you get points for! See! You guys literally have to create some alternate reality to make sense of your own beliefs, as if to say that only shots against the body and head seem to count now. Many fighters have broken down other fighters by targeting their legs, pat barry, forrest griffin, jose aldo, jon jones, etc etc.
Diaz wasn’t controlling fight neither, simply going after a fighter who wants you to go after him does not= control, it’s called playing into your opponent’s hands because he wants you after him so then he will throw kicks and punches.
Carlos wasn't effective in the first 2 rounds imo
you’re welcome to your own opinion
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
UFC 143 = Diaz DEC, Nelson DEC, Kos DEC, Kuiper DEC, Barao SUB3, Leroy DEC, Brown KO1, Herman SUB2, Poirer KO2, Thompson DEC, Martinez DEC
Nick really wasn't effective the whole fight.
it seemed very bull v matador to me. does the Bull dictate where the fight happens just because it’s running at you?
the edginess in rnds 1 and 2 seemed more tactical to me, just not as effective as it was in 3, 4. & 5.
"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow
by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 5, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Last night, a little buzzed, I said Diaz
After sobering up, and looking at the numbers and rethinking the fight. I’ve judged(amateur level) and I would have given it to Condit based on striker.
But on another note, aggression, controlling the pace, those matter to me and I would have given Diaz at least two rounds, so that’s why I don’t understand the 49-46 scores because the fight was closer than that. I can buy 3 rounds to 2 for either man, but not 4-1.
This is a fight people will never agree on, and so many people are getting overly emotional about this event, this fight.
I was entertained and I was on the edge of my seat. Good fight. By the way, people getting so pissed off about it, it’s kinda funny, quit feeding the trolls.
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
yeah, I don't get how some of these guys are calling that a boring fight.
I thought it was very action-packed and suspense-filled.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
just because there weren't any giant bombs rocking them
it was like a mixture of Penn vs. Edgar I and Machida vs. Rua I.
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
it wasn't boring
but it was frustrating to watch.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
that I agree
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
It was frustrating in one way
Everybody’s saying that Condit didn’t let Diaz fight his fight, but I disagree. The only thing Condit did that made this different from any other Diaz fight is that he didn’t let himself get cornered. But by backing up and counterstriking, he actually allowed Nick to do his “walking you down” thing, which made Condit look bad and made me nervous about the decision. It was obvious that Condit landed a lot more strikes, but I didn’t know if the judges would be fooled by Nick’s constant walking forward. I think Condit should have tried to back Nick up and keep him on his heels. The reason Condit didn’t KO him was that, just as Nick said pre-fight, you can’t put all that power into your strikes when you’re backing up (unless you’re Chuck Liddell). I think Diaz fought exactly the fight he wanted to fight and Carlos still outstruck him.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
I like that
good way to express it
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
there is a difference bewteen not letting yourself be cornered, and sprinting to the center of the octogon
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
I'm glad for Condit cuz I wanted him to win.
but I could’ve seen a 4-1 score in favor of Diaz more than Condit.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
No one is going to agree ever on this fight lol.
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
Diaz outstruck Condit in round 2 and 2 out 3 judges scored it Condit
Diaz took Condits back in the 5th and tried to submit him and 2 out of 3 judges scored it Condit. The only definitive action in the fight apparently meant nothing to 2 out of 3 judges. So people need to stop pointing to how judges score the bout as end all be all in the discussion.
Diaz rounds 1 2 5
im done with this fight
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Fuck Carlos Starnes "The Natural Born Runner"
ok well while you all continue to bitch and whine over your sad pathetic 8 year old minded chump of a fighter condit i’d like to say thank you. you did exactly what you needed to do and you proved also how one track minded this guy is and how pathetic his fans are. go look at the stats condit out landed him and out struck him he was never in danger turn the volume of your computer off i dare you and just watch the fight for once stop watching fights like your in high school this is a grown ass mans game lol if you want the money then prepare to die for it gentlemen dont go out there though thinking everyone should fight your fight. shogun knocked lyoto the fuck out in the 2nd fight why? because SHOGUN FOUGHT HIS FIGHT! go look at that last mike easton fight nick wasnt pushing carlos and hitting him like that. i honestly question some of you people on if you really like MMA i mean you do know you have to idk THINK and BE SMART in a fight especially for belts for glory for MONEY. my perfect example of how mature you all are is look at how your reacting calling carlos kalib starnes a guy who didnt fight his opponent AT ALL he didnt throw kicks punches faints taunts maybe a middle finger like COME ON! and thats carlos condit? thats the fight you saw was a guy running away but when jon jones does it or when lyoto does it its different ? keep being classy and fickle folks
like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
"He got knee'd right in the diverticulitis
by Balrog on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 PM PST"
god i wish i couldve put that on BE but whatever i guess ima BIG ass troll who talks too much oooooo mma nerds need lives and tougher skin honestly your as weak as your favorite fighters and im looking at you nick
like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
"He got knee'd right in the diverticulitis
by Balrog on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 PM PST"
I wish you would wait till you sober-up before posting.
I think I agree with everything I think you’re saying here, but I’m not sure because half of your “sentences” are indecipherable.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
at least he took the piss out of himself with the be thing
it was like that letter with the flower lol
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
IMO
Diaz won the first two rounds and the 5th, can understand any reason why this was not witnessed by the judges, no one can take the sight from my eyes, no matter what way you look at that fight again and again and again, 1st and 2nd rounds to Diaz, 3rd and 4th to Condit but Diaz won the fifth, end of story. Diaz will smash Kos next anyway and get his rematch or else get GSP, thats just my opinion. Diaz won that fight fair and square.
I picked diaz to win, lost money on it, but I thought Condit won... let me ask you this tkkpal
Are you the type of guy to add up points for leg kicks to the thigh or chin and do you rate them below a jab or punch?
I think there’s a group that doesnt give leg kicks much credit. I have no idea why rogan said he changed his mind and thought Diaz won the fight… what does rogan have to say about fight metric results?
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
1-Condit
2-Diaz
3-Condit
4-Condit
5-Diaz.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 5, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions
I saw it as
1 Diaz
2 Diaz
3 toss up, wouldn’t have argued either way
4 Condit
5 Diaz
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
This is your sig. Whether Unam says he isn't honoring a bet or not is not the same.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
I thought you had already put it up. There you go. No pic. One week.
And the Stevie Y is back!
Sig Bet:
5-2,
Taking New Bets. Hit me Up.
by Cruz Jackson on Feb 5, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Cruz
I am accepting this sig under protest. Nick won that fight, also we made a 2 week sig bet, so I’ll keep it up until the next show.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
UFC 143 Picks: Thompson - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Kuiper - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Brown - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Figueroa - Rnd 2 KO/TKO, Riddle - Rnd UD, Poirier - Rnd 1 KO/TKO, Herman - Rnd 1 SUB, Jorgensen - UD, Koscheck - UD, Werdum - UD, Diaz - Rnd 4 KO/TKO(sig bet w/Cruz Jackson)
Sig bet record 2-5
Understood. Glad to see you are honoring it.
Rematch ASAP.
Sig Bet:
5-2,
Taking New Bets. Hit me Up.
I'm no welcher.
I already have Scottidog for the Edgar fight and I have no opinion on any of the fights on the next card, unless you think Sanchez is gonna beat Ellenburger.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
besides
after rewatching the fight, Condit won.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
I saw the first and fifth rd's as the toss ups. It was a close fight.
I think Diaz won those rounds but. Officially it still stands as condit’s win so shiv, nice sig.
Sig Bet:
4-2,
Condit over Diaz - Shivan"Diesel"Tiger
by Cruz Jackson on Feb 5, 2012 6:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Even compustrike would agree Diaz won
Round 1: Condit landed three more strikes (weak leg kicks) while Diaz landed twice as many body and head shots. Diaz
Round 2: Diaz landed more strikes and his strikes were not leg kicks. Diaz
Round 3: Condit was afraid to engage so he outpointed Diaz. Condit
Round 4: Same as above. Condit
Round 5: Diaz showed octagon control, got in more significant strikes and a takedown. Since when do takedowns not win rounds? Not to mention the submission attempts and body triangle.
Diaz 48-47
Team Sonnen!
by Armando Baez on Feb 5, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Diaz for me took rounds 1 and 2 though very close
Condit took round 3 and 4
Diaz took round 5
48-47 diaz but i could easily understand how it could be scored 48-47 to condit
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