Condit vs.Diaz: Why The Right Man Won
Sometime around 60AD, the civilized world lay prostrate beneath the Roman Empire's ruthless sandal. Rome had conquered every enemy to every point of the compass, not by the size of the army it deployed, but by the science with which it approached battle. Republican Rome had the world's first standing professional army, and developed military strategy and tactics into an advanced art that repeatedly gave it the edge over less-disciplined enemies.
However, in the Roman province we now call Britain, a massive uprising was led by Boadicea, the legendary warrior queen of the Iceni. Provoked into rebellion by the rape of her daughters and humiliation of her people, she led her furious hordes on a rampage of looting and murder, sacking major towns populated by Roman settlers. Unprepared for the uprising, the Roman governor Suetonius had on hand an army of only a few thousand men. On short notice, he hurried to London, a major Roman settlement. Then word came: Boadicea was approaching, and she was hungry for blood. What would Suetonius do?
Boadicea and her daughters.
Like Carlos Condit faced with the approach of the ruthless Barbarian Nick Diaz, he retreated. Despite the derogatory opinion often held of retreating generals, as a trained tactician Suetonius knew that retreat is not necessarily an act of cowardice or a source of shame. Rather, it is often the first step in winning a fight on your own terms. At this point, it would seem that Boadicea had the initiative, forcing the Roman into retreat. But a battle is not decided by who has what we might call battlefield control. It is decided by the tally of bloodied corpses when battle is finally joined. And battle was not yet joined.
Like Nick Diaz, Boadicea's fighting strategy was simple: she overwhelmed her opponents with irresistible force. She marshaled every able-bodied member of her tribe and advanced like a swarm of starving locusts. After Suetonius' retreat, she overran London and visited slaughter and destruction on the town. Her strategy of overwhelming force and violent attack had prevailed again. High on victory, she set her sights on driving the Romans out of Britain altogether. Like Diaz, she was forcing the pace- but was she winning?
It would seem so. Suetonius gathered together the few Roman divisions he could muster, but still had at his disposal only around 10,000 men. Boadicea's fighting force however, reportedly numbered up to 230,000. If Suetonius went head-on against her, he would be celebrated in history's chronicles for his courage. He would also be mercilessly slaughtered. So preferring life to glory, the wily general crafted a less confrontational strategy that would turn Boadicea's strength and aggression into a weakness.
First, he carefully chose his battle ground. He selected a gap in a dense forest to be the site of the imminent showdown. This narrow corridor formed a cul-de-sac that would make it impossible for Boadicea to deploy her army on a wide front. The site was also sloping, meaning that one army would have to be running uphill during the fight, while the other would be running downhill. Then having set the stage, he lured her into battle.
True to her wont, Boadicea rushed forward, her entire tribe in tow. Lacking any kind of disciplined formation, she swarmed towards the Romans. Suetonius then began a disciplined retreat, luring Boadicea into the gap in the woods. Like Nick Diaz, Boadicea did what had always worked: she attacked with the full measure of her fury. Positioned deep in his gap in the woods, Suetonius was as calm and focused as Carlos Condit as he waited for Boadicea to lose the battle.
And lose she did. Unable to swarm the Romans because of the narrow field, her army presented a narrow front but long tail. Running uphill, she was also working twice as hard as her adversaries and tired quickly. Her characteristic brute force and aggression was completely neutralized, and she found her army clinically decimated by the Romans, who efficiently picked off her fighters with well-placed sword thrusts under the guard. She was the aggressor, forcing the pace, but each Roman sword thrust was like a Carlos Condit leg kick, scoring patiently but effectively.
After the first wave of Boadicea's attack was exhausted, the battle displayed the dynamics of the Condit-Diaz fight at the start of the third round. Gaining confidence, the Romans started to advance. However, they did so in disciplined formation, maintaining a wedge that cleaved Boadicea's frontline the way Condit's head kicks and clinical punches cleaved Diaz's guard. Ironically, the size of Boadicea's army prevented her from retreating, because the fighters behind blocked the retreat of those dying at the front. Like Diaz, her natural aggressive style meant that as the clinical punches landed, she had no defence: she had never learned to retreat.
In the end, the Romans won the day and Boadicea passed into legend. To this day, like Nick Diaz, she is celebrated for her courage, fierceness and aggression in battle. But it was the wily General Condit, who knew when to apply the tactical retreat and the clinical counter-attack, who will go down on history's scorecard as the victor.
And rightly so.
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Good post. Liked the comparison.
I scored it for condit. First two rounds were close. 3rd and fourth condit. And fifth I’d still give to condit. He won 4 minutes and Diaz had his back for a minute. Not enough to win round in my opinion.
by Ponch-Hoe on Feb 5, 2012 2:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
looks like somebody watched the fights while doing their World Civ homework.
The best part of this analogy is that you compared Diaz to a half-witted bloodthirsty bitch. Photoshop that pic up there to change that spear into a bong and you’ve got yourself a good metaphor.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
I'm not sure if I would call Boadicea Diaz half-witted
She was just unable to adapt her strategy to her opponent. She did what had worked in the past. The Iceni painted their faces before battle, and terrified their opponents, often dominating them psychologically before battle was even joined. Just like a certain fighter uses trash talk and physical bullying to psych his opponents.
She had also won in the past by pressing forwards with overwhelming numbers, just like somebody always pressed forwards with overwhelming punches. But then, she met a different type of adversary- a thinking one who didn’t get psyched and refused to meet her head on. She was frustrated by the fact that the more strongly she attacked, the more her men died. Just like Diaz began to get frustrated by the 3rd, 4th and 5th, realising his old tactics weren’t working.
It was only at the end of the 5th that Diaz finally realized it was time to change tactics and attack Condit’s weakness- his unforgivable tendency to turn his back when retreating. But it was too little too late. But at least he regained the initiative for a couple of minutes. Boadicea never did.
Agreed on all counts.
Good analogy Mot.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
I often don’t agree with what you have to say, but you always have a unique take on things so I find myself reading your articles out of curiosity. In this case, I really like the analogy between the two events. It sounds like you know the subject you chose for the comparison to the Condit/Diaz fight quite well.
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
Many (including me) believe your comics are out of place on this site.
But what you wrote there was quite brilliant. You can put two thoughts together and you possess some kind of historical culture.
Let go of the comics. Nullifying your enemy’s fire and strength? You’ve got the theoretical part down, let’s see if you can utilize it in a tactical way that’ll make you win the day.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
I doubt he is conerned about winning the day.
Best fanpost from you yet imo. Good stuff Mot, I’m glad manias own overwhelming numbers didn’t run you off.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There is a lot of gas in the universe. True
This article is full of gas. True.
This author is full of gas. True
Looking for a writing gig or just bored?
Irony is the clash of opposites. It is the juxtaposition of what is expected against what happens; what you know and what you think you know. And... Most people don't get it.
Dude let it go
Your a hater, cool, we got that. He’s not going anywhere. Admit defeat, and move on.
After a botched kick atempt in the AFC championship game vs the Patriots, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff attempted to commit suicide. Unfortunately, he could'nt kick the chair out from under himself...
by ClinchKing on Feb 5, 2012 2:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
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You are banned from Bloody Elbow.
You can browse the blog, but you can't participate.
Insulting staff and using the word "***" are both completely inappropriate. So long.
by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 5, 2012 3:29 AM EST reply actions
Who's Gary Condit?
:P
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
Interesting
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
+1 The Art of War and Carlos was simply the better warrior
I feel like playing some Age of Empires now.
I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.
49-46 Condit in my scorecards.
I generally try to put effective in front of every action i look for in the cage. Diaz sure did a lot of walking and trying to punch but it stopped at “trying”. Condit was backpedaling while landing solid counters. And also to those who say the leg kicks didnt do damage – congratulations, you just joined Cecil Peoples as a card carrying member of the “leg kicks dont finish fights” club.
Im a 16 year old child’s bitch. Fear The Pride
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 6, 2012 3:36 AM EST reply actions
no thanks cecil.
Im a 16 year old child’s bitch. Fear The Pride
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Feb 6, 2012 4:22 AM EST up reply actions
im just saying if you didn't duck me, i would have put money down on diaz..
you had a chance to avenge your loss to me, and you ducked me.. too bad for you.
as far as the fight goes, i had it 48-47 diaz.. close fight overall, so i cant be mad at either fighter winning…
was hoping for a waay better fight though.
One Two buckle my shoe.
Diaz sure did a lot of walking and trying to punch but it stopped at "trying".
That says it all. You don’t win a battle by marching towards the enemy. You win it by destroying his forces and taking territory.
Two armies meet to fight. One advances on the other. The other digs a series of pits, fills them with sharp spikes, camouflages them, and then makes a tactical retreat. The advancing army swarms all over the battlefield, controlling the territory- and then falls into the pit and is impaled.
Who won the battle?
Diaz best trait
His ability to take a 2×4 to the head. He must have an MRAP-like skull. His martial arts was sorely missing. Condit masterfully controlled the cage and outpointed Diaz repeatedly. I’d like to see Diaz take up boxing though and see how he does toe-to-toe with someone like Bernard Hopkins. That’ll be fun.
Yes
Diaz’s idea of a striking defence is to clench his jaw as the roundhouse approaches his head. No wonder he slurs his words and can’t give a coherent answer to any question. If someone doesn’t teach him to actually block punches and kicks soon, he’s going to end up the first famous MMA fighter with serious brain damage.
If he takes up boxing, the results will be tragic to watch. He punches like a girl because he loops his punches, generating zero power from his stance/hips. And he couldn’t parry a punch to save his life. It surprises me to learn he has a boxing coach. He should pay a visit to Dicky Eklund.
er ... have you heard the change in Chuck's speech and seen his spazzing out at fights?
As much as I hate to say it, I think Chuck is much more high profile and no offence I think he’s suffering the effects however minor compared to what you’re saying.
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
That was mainly due to drugs however.
Obviously getting KOed every other fight amplifies that.
Show no mercy; for you shall receive none
Conflicting opinion, I think it was a combination (strange that Chuck wasn't knocked out with combinations)
5-2, undefeated and undisputed, beat me ... if you can.
Great read, Mot. I enjoyed the comparison.
"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)
by OJR on Feb 6, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
a troll is a troll who is a troll
If you can’t give Diaz credit for being a great MMA fighter then you are by very definition a hater.
Boozer sucks.
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 7, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
good article rec
How the f#@k did nick win that fight. I’m bewildered by the robbery comments, what did he do other than plod forward? I was really surprised he raised his arms and was so pissed at the decision. Leg kicks don’t count? They sure as hell slow you down,if hit hard enough and enough times, they affect everything, if nick was “winning” with his bread and butter boxing, why did he start resorting to takedowns? The only time I remember him looking good was the one time he really got off several body punches against the fence… one time and he got condits back, which was reversed(most likely due to the hail mary arm bar, I think nick knew he was losing. If they gave bj the nod over nick now that would be robbery lol. The facts on the matter is the fight was fairly close , especially rounds 1,2 and 5. Fight metric, a damn computer…no emotion saw it that way and gave carlos the decision, so let it go guys. For the record I wanted him to win, I would love to see him fight gsp but its not going to happen, not for a while if ever.

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