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Fantasy MMA #1 Fedor vs. Cormier

I feel asleep at 1930 last night and woke up around 0430. So I have had nothing to do for the last couple hours and I decided to do this.

Seeing as how very few of us are capable of being impartial and come when it comes to most fighters, I don't expect to come out of posting this unscathed.

Fans either hate Fedor, calling him the ultimate overrated can crusher. Call him the GOAT, who is still able to beat any fighter in the world on any given night. Or they feel that he was a great fighter in a bygone era, who's time has passed.

Most fans universally agree that the 32 year old Olympic wrestler is someone to watch. Daniel Cormier is fighting Josh Barnett soon to determine the winner of StrikeForce's heavyweight "Grand Prix." So for the hell of it, here's a breakdown of the two fighters and what I would expect to happen if they ever meet in the cage/ring.

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Daniel Cormier - 32 years old - 5'11" - Reach: 71" (Ranked 7th Heavyweight)

Record: 9-0 (4 KO/TKO, 5 SUB, 2 DEC)

Last Five: Antonio Silva (W), Jeff Monson (W), Devin Cole (W), Soa Palelei (W), Jason Riley (W).

-EXPERIENCE: IMPROVED STRIKING. WRESTLING (NCAA DIV I, OLYMPIC/WORLD/ PAN AMERICAN GAMES)

-Titles Held: King of the Cage(KOTC) Heavyweight Champion, Xtream MMA Heavyweight Champion, StrikeForce Grand Prix Finalist

Cormier was born in Lafayette, Louisiana and made his pro debut in 2009.

-High school he was a 3 time All State and one time All American. Junior College All American(2x) and Junior College Champion(2x). 2x Big 12 Conference Championship Runner Up. NCAA Division I Championship Runner Up, NCAA Div. I All American (2001)

-2002 Gold Medalist (Pan American Championships), 2003 Gold Medalist (Pan American Games), 2007 Bronze Medalist (Pan American Games), 2007 Bronze Medalist (World Championships). 2x Olympic Competitor, 2004: 4th Place, 2008: Did not Compete due to Kidney Failure)

-Trains at American Kickboxing Academy. His striking improves with every fight. See his fight with Jeff Monson, which was a great amount of improvement followed by his fight with Bigfoot, where he destroyed the far more experienced fighter and KO'd him in the first round. What's interesting is he doesn't always looks for take downs like a lot of other wrestlers, instead he likes to keep fights standing and bang a lot of the time.

-He's 3 years younger than Fedor, and has far less fights under his belt, but it's safe to say his body has taken quite a beating after 2 decades of wrestling. He's a very athletic fighter, but is a bit on the chubby side, and many feel he belongs at light heavyweight. However due to kidney problems cutting weight is difficult if not impossible.

Youtube:

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N3hHpZioO4 (Highlights)

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RQgeWoevNY (vs. Antonio Silva)

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jta9z3zZkoE (vs. Jeff Monson)

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSXsenTwcZg (vs. Jason Riley)

Fedor Emelianenko - 35 years old - 6'0" - Reach: 74" (Ranked 11th Heavyweight)

Record: 33-4 (1 No Contest) (Wins: 9 KO/TKO, 16 SUB, 8 DEC) (Losses: 3 KO/TKO[1 Due to Cut], 1 SUB)

Last Five: Satoshi Ishii (W), Jeff Monson (W), Dan Henderson (L), Antonio Silva (L), Fabricio Werdum (L).

-EXPERIENCE: Grand Master Rank in Sambo. Black belt in Judo, Good Striking/Boxing

Titles Held: RINGS Openweight Champion, RINGS Absolute Tournament winner(2001), RINGS Openweight Tournament winner(2001), PRIDE Heavyweight Champion, PRIDE Heavyweight Grand Prix Champion (2004). WAMMA Heavyweight Champion (LOL)

Fedor was born in Stary Oskol, Belgorod Oblast, Russia and made his pro debut in 2000.

-6x Gold Medalist: Russian Sambo Championships, (2x Bronze), 1997 European Combat Sambo Gold Medalist, 4x Gold Medalist: World Championships Combat Sambo, (1x Bronze).

-2x Bronze Medalist in Judo: World Cup (1999). 2x Russian Judo Championships Bronze Medalist.

-7th Place (Judo) Dutch Grand Prix (2000), 6th Place (Combat Sambo) Russian Combat Sambo Championships (2010)

-Trains with Red Devil Sports Club, known for heroic comebacks and/or dominating one sided beat downs depending on who he's fighting. One of the most polarizing fighters there is, many people either hate or love Fedor. The sport seems to have passed him by, as many feel he's failed to evolve with the times.

-Taken a lot of damage over his career, and was stopped in 3 of his last 5 fights. Consistent level of competition can be called into question, many opponents have less than stellar records, regardless of domination over said opponents.

Youtube:

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rY4gcMz460 (highlight)

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MUIsVolQqE (vs. Satoshi Ishii)

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-xnT0UpJyo (Part 2) (vs. Jeff Monson)

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90haGh-yfAk (vs. Dan Henderson)

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNFo-2N_kpc (Part 2) (vs. Antonio Silva)

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VacJtJ3k-3A (vs. Fabricio Werdum)

The Breakdown:

This fight, if it ever happens will no doubt be exciting. Both men have fantastic credentials, both in the grappling and striking departments. This fight has the hypothetical potential as a fight of the year.

Grappling: Freestyle Wrestling vs. Combat Sambo/Judo

Cormier has never fought a Sambo specialist, he's faced two Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belts in Bigfoot Silva and Jeff Monson. Fedor has fought NCAA Div I/Olympic wrestlers in the past, but never a wrestler the caliber of Cormier, though he has faced former Olympians; Dan Henderson (Greco-Roman, 2x Olympian, 2000 Pan American Gold Medalist), Ishii (Judo Gold Medalist), Matt Lindland (Silver Medalist Freestyle wrestling). Lindland was also a freestyle wrestler, but his natural weight class was much lower, in fact all three were undersized. Then again Fedor is an undersized heavyweight. I think because of Cormiers fantastic take downs and take down defense he would dictate the location of the fight pretty much at will. Overall grappling ability goes to Cormier, but submissions go to Fedor. I call this EVEN.

Striking: Kickboxing vs. Combat Sambo/Boxing

Cormier is much newer to the striking game than Fedor, but he's improving rapidly. See his KO of Silva as a testament to that. He doesn't throw a ton of kicks, he does throw leg kicks and the occasional head kick, but his hands are heavy and his ground and pound is superb. The differences in his striking fight to fight are very noticeable. He controlled the fight against Monson almost as well as Fedor did, despite having a huge experience disadvantage. I'm looking forward to his fight against Josh Barnett to see just how good his striking has become and to see if it's gotten any better since the Bigfoot fight. He's not afraid to exchange and with each fight expect him to be showing more fluidity and combinations. Fedor when it comes to striking can go from 0 to 100 in a few seconds, standing there with hands low to throwing a 5-7 punch combination, mostly looping hooks and overhand rights. As of late he's become more patient, basically since the Hendo fight. Fedor also has ground and pound that rivals anyone in MMA, past or present, if he gets on top and has the opening to land strikes expect them to come hard and fast. Because of Fedors extreme experience advantage, and his new found patience I give him the edge. But if he gets lazy with his leg kicks he'll be taken down so that shouldn't be forgotten. Fedor wins here.

Common Opponents:

If you look at the common opponents, Antonio Silva and Jeff Monson: Cormier is 2-0 and Fedor is 1-1. Both had decision victories over Monson. Fedor fractured Monsons leg with leg kicks during their fight, dropped him several times; completely out striking him in all areas. Cormier out struck Monson equally so: 120 to 40 landed strikes over 3 rounds, landing fantastic combinations, mixing in body shots, leg kicks and a head kick in the 3rd that landed on the jaw. He also dropped Monson during the fight and had him staggered several times from both left and right hands.

Against Silva; Fedor lost when the doctor stopped the fight at the end of the 2nd round. Corimer dropped Silva twice and KO'd him in the 1st round. Fedor won the first round against Silva, (close round), landing more strikes but it was clear that he didn't have it that night against Silva because at the start of round two Silva took him down. He took Fedors back, mounted him, tried to sink in various chokes. Fedor was unable to get up from the ground beneath the much larger Silva and took a lot of ground and pound, severely damaging his eye. He did attempt to lock in a heelhook at the very end but Silva simply taunted him. The doctor stopped the fight because of the damage to the the eye.

Intangibles:

1) Ring or Cage.

2) Fedor's Motivation/ emotional investment.

3) Cormier's fight against Barnett result.

4) Speed

The Pick:

I'll get hated on for this, but with the exception of may Dan Henderson, I would pick Fedor in a rematch against either Silva or Werdum, especially if he came in properly motivated and trained. I think he's past his prime, but he's still a dangerous fighter and deserves the respect of the fans rather than disdain many show for him.

Cormier is someone to watch and I'm becoming more of a fan after every fight. He's a little old but he could fight another 5-7 years I think and will give us plenty of good fights at either heavyweight or light heavyweight when he joins the UFC after the end of the StrikeForce Grand Prix.

Fedor isn't unstoppable anymore, so it's unlikely he'll have the "Fedor effect" against Cormier, but I think that Fedor might be a little bit faster than Cormier. I think that Fedor would get the better of the striking throughout the fight because of that speed, and Cormier would take the fight to the ground, looking for positional control, looking to ground and pound. He's got a great base and would probably avoid the armbars from the bottom that Fedor is known for and would stay on top save for a few sweeps/stand ups, but I don't think Fedor would be able to get out from under the Olympic wrestler at will and would spend a lot of the fight on his back, taking shots. Barring a flash KO/TKO win for Fedor, I would call for a decision victory by Cormier. Daniel Cormier by decision.

Thank you for reading, please leave a comment and let me know if you'd like me to do another match up. If you agree or disagree please state your reasons why. Do not turn this into a Fedor hate/sucks thread please. You people are better than that.

Poll
Who would win?
Fedor by KO/TKO
18 votes
Fedor by submission
7 votes
Fedor by Decision
4 votes
Cormier by KO/TKO
10 votes
Cormier by submission
1 votes
Cormier by Decision
7 votes
Draw
0 votes

47 votes | Poll has closed

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 3, 2012 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

Ok

My guess would be because it’s a waste of time?

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

it's because he is a crotchety old man

now get off his lawn

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 3, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

I wonder how many will read it entirely and make an opinion impartially based on the facts. Probably not a lot but oh well.

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.

by The Ruiner on Feb 5, 2012 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate this more
Do not turn this into a Fedor hate/sucks thread please. You people are better than that.

No offense Wolf…but this statement makes me want to say two things only.

1. Fuck you
2. Fedor is a can crusher

I feel better now.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

hahahahaha.

I figure it will do one of two things, make people think before they speak or get them to freak out. I kind of thought after putting that up that it might have that effect instead. So I’m expecting it either way now.

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

You are in a community that will say “left” just because you want them to say “right”. That is just how we roll.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Like 14 year children. :P

The internet allows people to act that way though, can’t expect that to ever change.

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

nope

Lesnar already beat him in my mind.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck off.

Show no mercy; for you shall receive none

by Chorongota on Feb 3, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

He said something negative in a fedor thread and you took offense…understandable. But, you also said something negative in a Fedor thread. I think you should give yourself a stern talking to.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

awesome

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Great post wolfman, very intricate.

Im surprised at the poll to be quite honest, I voted for Fedor by principle but if I were a more rational being I would have Cormier by lopsided decision headin towards the end of the fight.

Show no mercy; for you shall receive none

by Chorongota on Feb 3, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

thanks man

yeah I am the only one who voted for Cormier thus far…

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

It’d end up being a wrestling match I think, and with his own grappling ability and submission defense I don’t see Fedor being able to submit him. So because he’s be stuck underneath I think Cormier would get the decision….

Barring Fedor KOing him on the feet before he can get it down to the ground.

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on which Fedor fights

if he fights smart he wins. if not, see Fedor vs Bigfoot…

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by The Pride on Feb 3, 2012 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

I'd like to think that

I honestly think that if Fedor fought Big Foot again he was knock him out, he wouldn’t let him take him to the ground again…

The difference is I don’t think Fedor could stop the takedown from Cormier…

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

but Cormier isnt a BJJ blackbelt like Big Foot, and he also isnt 280 fucking pounds

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by The Pride on Feb 3, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is we don't really know how their styles will clash

Sure Cormier should be able to take Fedor down but how’s Cormiers submission defence, and standing it’s hard to say as Cormier has looked better every fight….will he be even better vs Barnett.

Honestly right now I think cormier wins by decision but Fedor has the best chance at finishing the fight in my opinion and with that it’s pretty much a toss up.

I don't try to intimidate anybody before a fight. That's nonsense. I intimidate people by hitting them.

by Puck Head on Feb 3, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my opinion man lol

Barring a flash KO from Fedor, I think Cormier would win a decision…

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

No

he’s among the best wrestlers in the world instead, period.

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i know

but i think Big Foot has a better top game

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by The Pride on Feb 3, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

better that Cormier?

no, I don’t agree good, sir

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Ive never seen Cormier show GnP

even remotely as brutal as what Big Foot did to Fedor. Silva is just so huge his top game suffocates ppl, something i dont think Cormier can replicate

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by The Pride on Feb 3, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Silva has good technique and good ground and pound but uses his size

Cormier has very good GNP himself and has great top control technique that doesn’t rely on his size.

If he couldn’t keep Fedor down, I think Fedors hands would be the difference maker and Corimer would end up TKO’d

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

If Real Fedor rocks up

Fedor via Zulu.

I hoenstly think

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 3, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

damn "smart" phone..

I’d honestly take prime Fedor over any fighter on the planet, ever.

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 3, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

lol yeah

I get your point, I was thinking more like if they fought now, within the next year or so…

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 4, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd still bet on Fedor

But Cormier is a beast. I think he’ll be top 5 very quickly.

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 4, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

you never know

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 4, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see Fedor working with Zuffa again...

I honestly think it’s a mixture of Dana White and M-1 collectively having their heads up their asses.

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 4, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

sounds about right

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 4, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

too bad eh?

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 4, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Depends on which Fedor shows up

If Fedor does not train hard and just shows up to fight for his managers, fans,and money: Cormier first round KO

If Fedor trains his dick off and bust ass in training camp: Cormier 2nd round KO

Don't make me swing on you bro

by PrivateBox on Feb 4, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

So I take it you don't think fedor has a chance

I think you’re underestimating him but it’s far to assume that he may have lost a step….

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 4, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

just leave

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 4, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude you're using tard logic here.

Fedor never fought that great of competition. He isn’t out of his prime or any of those stupid excuses…..he just isn’t top 10 and was only when the HW division sucked. Now that it is legit….he cant hang. DC would destroy Fedor.

In what way do you see Fedor beating Corimer???

Don't make me swing on you bro

by PrivateBox on Feb 5, 2012 3:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm using tard logic?

You just said

Fedor never fought that great of competition

That’s what most people would call… T.A.R.D

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 5, 2012 5:02 AM EST up reply actions  

How??

The HW division was an absolute joke back then. Even in the UFC. And once these really solid athletes started making their way up, Fedor cant hang anymore. THE DUDE WAS GETTING BEAT TO A FUCKING PULP BUY BRETT ROGERS!!! Then loses to the much larger, faster, more technical BigFoot, then goes on to get his fat ass knocked out by a much smaller and older Hendo…..Fedor and his management cant even think of an excuse for is, he just plain and simple sucks. Why don’t you just say the same shit they say…..it’s god’s will.
At least then you will have some sort of argument……a very retarded one….but finally have one none the less.

Don't make me swing on you bro

by PrivateBox on Feb 5, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way Wolfface

fuck the haters. I really like these fantasy match up fights.

Chuck and Hendo was epic.
No telling who wins that fight, crazy crazy crazy.

Fedor vs JDS would have just been plain brutal and wrong.

Don't make me swing on you bro

by PrivateBox on Feb 4, 2012 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

no worries

I might do another one… but I’m think of writing a hall of fame thing…

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 4, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  


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