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Nostradumbass

Don't make plans, homie.

Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) already has you booked for its UFC 143: "Diaz vs. Condit" pay-per-view (PPV) event this Saturday night (Feb. 4, 2012) at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.

What makes this one special?

Well, for starters, it's going to finish the night with a 170-pound champion not named Georges St. Pierre, as Nick Diaz and Carlos Condit battle for the Interim belt in the Canadian's absence.

Also getting their groove back are a pair of grappling studs in the form of Fabricio Werdum and Roy Nelson. These two should neutralize each other on the ground, but after seeing what Frank Mir was able to do to fellow jiu-jitsu master Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, all bets are off when heavyweight grapplers end up on the mat.

If that doesn't do it for you, then be sure to stick around for the Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pierce match-up. There's only room for one trash-talking welterweight 'round these parts and one of these two rugged wrestlers gots ta' go.

Remember that MMAmania.com will provide LIVE round-by-round, blow-by-blow coverage of the main card action on fight night (Sat., Feb. 4), which is slated to air at 10 p.m. ET on pay-per-view. The latest quick updates of the preliminary card action will begin to flow earlier than that around 7 p.m. ET.

We know who's fighting and we know when to tune in. But do we know who's going to win? Not yet. But that shouldn't stop us from taking our best guess.

See you after the jump.

Star-divide

170 lbs.: Nick Diaz (26-7) vs. Carlos Condit (27-5)

Nostradumbass predicts: In the interest of a fair and balanced breakdown, which is the staple of every Nostradumbass column (cough), I've been trying like hell to build a convincing case for Carlos Condit in his main event fight against Nick Diaz.

So far, I've got nothing.

Can "The Natural Born Killer" knock Diaz out? Paul Daley punched him in the face as hard as he could and still ended up losing the fight. Can Condit submit him? If 33 other people couldn't do it, I can't imagine he can, either. So if he can't knock him out and he can't submit him, then he has to win a decision.

Right.

This is a guy who threw 436 total strikes against B.J. Penn. Think about that for a second. Think of the volume of offense it takes to accomplish that in just three rounds. Beat this kid on the scorecards? Not if it's standing.

That leads me to the one weakness in the Diaz armor: The takedown.

In order to get Diaz to the floor and keep him there without getting strangled, you need to have good wrestling and a smothering top game. You can't just lay in guard and throw intermittent punches. That's why Georges St. Pierre had, in my opinion, such a distinct advantage over Diaz.

Not Condit.

He's excelled in this division and really, outside of a razor-thin loss to Martin Kampmann in his UFC debut, his record is impeccable.

He may not be inferior to Diaz talent-wise, but this just looks (on paper) to be a bad match-up. Condit is too tough to finish and he'll keep it competitive, but at the end of the day, Diaz just does too much, too often, to be denied by the judges and their scorecards.

Prediction: Diaz def. Condit via unanimous decision

265 lbs.: Fabricio Werdum (14-5-1) vs. Roy Nelson (16-6)

Nostradumbass predicts: Two veteran heavyweight fighters, each with an amazing ground game. What should we expect? Well, if history has taught us anything, probably three rounds of sloppy kickboxing.

Seriously, if all these guys do on Saturday night is try to bang it out and keep from gassing, I might have to give up on mixed martial arts (MMA) altogether.

I know some of you are thinking "Gee Nostradumbass, these guys kinda cancel each other out on the ground, so they will try to get an edge on the feet." My answer to that, Mr. know-it-all, is that they also cancel each other out on the feet, because they're both terrible boxers.

Roy Nelson has power, no question, he's put his fair share of guys on their butts. And Fabricio Werdum has serviceable Muay Thai that can usually do enough to win a fight when need be. But let's not kid ourselves, either one of these guys would get lit up in a K-1 or Muay Thai bout overseas, so let's just deal with it.

It's not outrageous, based on accolades alone, to call Werdum the superior grappler. But the gap between him and Nelson, if one exists, is not significant enough to give him any kind of advantage if they head south for the winter. I do hope it happens because a chess match on the ground sure beats the alternative.

I have concerns about conditioning for both fighters and if this plays out on the feet like I predict, I'm going to give it to "Vai Cavalo" for being the busier fighter. "Big Country" will probably waste too much time and eat too many punches (pun intended) looking for the knockout blow.

Prediction: Werdum def. Nelson via split decision

170 lbs.: Josh Koscheck (16-5) vs. Mike Pierce (13-4)

Nostradumbass predicts: This is Josh Koscheck's fight to lose. He's the more accomplished wrestler, has more experience on the big stage and has already faced the best the division has to offer.

Unfortunately, he can also be his own worst enemy.

You know, like heading into a fight against Paulo Thiago and not feeling the need to watch any film on his opponent. Or trying to see how many leg kicks he can absorb from Thiago Alves. If his ego doesn't get in the way, he probably wins this fight.

Probably.

One thing about Pierce, he's tough as nails. He had Jon Fitch in a world of trouble in the third round of their bout back at UFC 107 and Johny Hendricks barely squeaked past him with a split decision. He's strong, can take big shots and has no problem doing a busy three rounds.

"Kos" needs to be firing on all cylinders for this one, keeping the pressure on and not allowing Pierce to get any kind of reprieve. I believe his blase attitude heading into this fight is nothing more than a poker face -- and don't think for a second watching Fitch get pasted last month wasn't a wake up call.

There's some new blood in this division and they aren't going away quietly. Koscheck; however, plays the right notes on Saturday night and lives to fight another day.

For now.

Prediction: Koscheck def. Pierce via unanimous decision.

135 lbs.: Renan Barao (27-1) vs. Scott Jorgensen (13-4)

Nostradumbass predicts: Renan Pegado is 27-1. His only loss? A unanimous decision in his professional debut way back in 2005. That means he's won 27 straight fights across six-and-a-half years with 19 finishes.

There are two schools of thought here.

The first is "Well, it's easy to win 27 fights when you don't fight anyone good." The second is "It doesn't matter who you're fighting, in a sport as unpredictable as MMA, 27 wins in a row is impressive."

I'm leaning towards the latter, probably because his list of opponents is not populated with cans and dreamers. He's defeated some legitimately tough dudes. But I'm also not ready to anoint him the second coming despite what he did to Brad Pickett.

Enter Scott Jorgensen.

This is the kind of test that will prove whether or not he's the real deal. "Young Guns" has the level of wrestling that can derail any hype train and it was good enough to earn him a shot against Dominick Cruz for the Bantamweight title.

Can "Barao" stop the takedown and make mince meat out of Jorgy?

I believe he can. It's a tough sell pre-fight, but I'm on board with this kid. I think he's exceptionally talented and too well rounded to lose on Saturday night.

If he can stop the takedown and finish Jorgensen, who's never been knocked out and only has one submission loss (from way back in 2006), expect the upper echelon of this division to be looking over their shoulder.

Prediction: Pegado def. Jorgensen via submission

185 lbs.: Ed Herman (19-8) vs. Clifford Starks (8-0)

Nostradumbass predicts: Don't look now, but here comes Ed Herman.

A lot of people, present company included, had written this guy off after an abysmal 1-3 stretch that saw him end with a grisly knee injury that kept him riding the pine for almost two years.

Then he came back and beat the brakes off Tim Credeur.

It was a feel-good victory, coming off the injury, but then he let it be known he was here to stay with a highlight-reel submission over Kyle Noke, an inverted heel hook that would have made Rousimar Palhares proud.

What's he up against in "Sin City?"

Well, for starters, Starks is undefeated. I don't want to go crazy over not losing because in the grand scheme of things, it's only eight fights and a couple of his opponents only had one or two bouts to their name when they faced him.

His UFC debut was a unanimous decision win over Dustin Jacoby and while he's getting good press from those around him, it's hard to pick him against Herman, who has triple the experience and faced some of the division's best fighters.

Is "Short Fuse" a few wins away from being "in the mix?"

Probably not, but he's got the tools and the talent to get it done on fight night. His submissions are vastly underrated and I think he dazzles us again with a second round sleeper.

Prediction: Herman def. Starks via submission

That's a wrap, folks.

For previews and predictions on the preliminary card fights click here and here. To see all the odds and betting lines for UFC 143 click here and remember to come check us out after the show for all the latest results, recaps and coverage of "Diaz vs. Condit."

What do you think? Now it's your turn ... let us have it in the comments section and share your thoughts and picks for tomorrow night's event.

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yep..good picking..which means

if i think that…they will all be WRONG!! lol good write up

by sarah- on Feb 3, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with 3 of the 5

good write up.

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

Other then the amazing Main Event

this is a horrible card

You've been Dana'd
I am a troll

by DJF on Feb 3, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

I don't agree

there are a lot of good fights on this card, the undercard has some that look very interesting

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

tell me you are joking

Scotty/renan will be awesome. And the undercard has some nice fights too. I’m pretty pumped.

Anderson Silva is going to retire Sonnen in Brazil!
Women are at home with their husbands and children. Whores are at the club getting smacked by the Reem.

by goldmouth on Feb 3, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He isn’t joking, the card is watered down and disgusting.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Feb 3, 2012 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

wtf are you talking about?

as a fight fan, these are good matchups and potential violence.

I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.

"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"

I played 8======Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.

by OilCheck on Feb 3, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

‘As a fight fan.’

So do you watch all the m1 events? No, you trash them. It’s only when the UFC put on average fights because you’re ‘a fight fan’, but when any other organization puts on the same level fights you turn your head the other way, chump. Consistency is key.

PPV’s are being watered down, which is why PPV numbers are dropping.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Feb 3, 2012 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Truth.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Feb 3, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m trying to get excited for this card, but I just can’t. You know what would have been solid? Rashad vs Davis as the co-main, and Bisping vs Sonnen as the third fight. Kick it off with the Kos fight but no, I need to spend two Saturday nights that could have been shown in one.

You've been Dana'd
I am a troll

by DJF on Feb 3, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Feb 3, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

+ 1 million

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't disagree...

This isn’t the strongest card, but there have been a million fights that should have been snoozefests that turned out amazing… I don’t judge a card until its over

by PorkchopSandwich on Feb 3, 2012 2:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

in terms of KO’s, subs and great fights, sure, anything can and does happen. In terms of relevant fights, with relevant fighters, this one isn’t up to snuff. As most haven’t been lately. Watered down is the most accurate assessment IMO.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

UFC has never been consistent of putting relevant names on PPV.so watered down is not accurate.

I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.

"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"

I played 8======Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.

by OilCheck on Feb 3, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Your post makes little sense.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Feb 3, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i watch all MMA,k1 and boxing events that's on TV

so shut the fuck up!

I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.

"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"

I played 8======Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.

by OilCheck on Feb 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

some people will bitch

even if every tittle was on the line, Fedor was fighting Brock Lesnar, and Barack Obama agreed to fight Dana White for control of the Universe. you just can’t please everyone….

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d be disappointed too, if it’s supposed to be the best fight night of all time i would expect nothing less than Jesus vs. Muhammad in the main event. At the very least Zeus vs Thor, though Zeus hasn’t really been the same in the last 1500 years.

Right hand coffee, left hand cactus, right hand coffee left hand cactus, keep it straight...

by ReAnimator on Feb 3, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

bahahaha

you got it

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

No, he does not. The people who refuse to pay 50 bucks for this PPV actually get it.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Feb 3, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Would Muhammud still be censored?

Would it be Jesus fighting a giant black bar?

You mind your own damn business.

by jestermarcus on Feb 3, 2012 5:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why do people always say that when a card lacks "names"?

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who makes people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Feb 3, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Because they pay for the card. They have every right to demand quality fights.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Feb 3, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Read the post Jesse put up 2 hours ago. Don’t try be to be funny, if you’re not. You only fill up the post with spam. Continue and you will be banned.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Feb 3, 2012 1:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

dude

he was referring to using too many pictures and/or GIFS… jokes are fine, it was about

Humor is all about timing, and a well-placed and funny pic can be gold. But does every joke require four or five pics with the same punchline?

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

‘A well-placed funny pic/joke can be gold.’

If you’re not funny, don’t try making jokes. Make an unfunny joke around me IRL in attempt to make yourself look cool, you get socked. Make one online and you get banned.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Feb 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

what?

what’s your problem man? You’re unnecessarily angry/aggressive. You’re trying to take something out of context.

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Let it go Wolf...

Danago, I love how you are very funny and you don’t even know it…

by jewjiffshoes on Feb 3, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny....

Like a retarded kid slapping himself. (funny to a point but sad even more)

Nothing Ever Changes When Nothing Ever Changes
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by JasonFahQ on Feb 3, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

win

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

FAIL

I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.

"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"

I played 8======Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.

by OilCheck on Feb 3, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Wolf

Hard to eat soup with a hook in your cheek

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin

by Scottidog on Feb 3, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re ok wolf, so you’re worthy of a warning…..let others fall into it, and you’ll learn to laugh at it….just don’t fall into it yourself.

by kg12 on Feb 3, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

oh don't get me wrong

I’m laughing at him too. I just think it’s insane how angry he seems to be… over nothing…

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He does what he needs to in order to get a reaction. Angry is never a word I would use to describe a world champion who drives multiple hummers while getting hummers from girls prettier than Arianny on the regs.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with all 5 by both round and method

Although I think Barao might go all three rounds because Scottie is hard to finish

Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.

by unambig on Feb 3, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

Barao better finish Scotty......

or he probably loses the fight via UD.

by kg12 on Feb 3, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

carlos is overlooked.

he’s twice as big and tall as most of the dudes Diaz have fought and their reach is about the same which usually is never the case in Nick’s fights, so i doubt Nick is going to be able to overwhelm Carlos with his volume punching. I’m mos def gonna bet on Los, but i hope Nick wins.

Tito Ortiz = God !

by RoBerto. on Feb 3, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

I have 20 bucks on Carlos, but after reading this I'm thinking Diaz is going to take it.

Just like I had cowboy beating Nate. Do you not seeing going the same way that fight went?

by jewjiffshoes on Feb 3, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

that's why you shouldn't read these predictions

and stick to what you know

I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.

"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"

I played 8======Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.

by OilCheck on Feb 3, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

That didn't answer my question Oilcheque

Do you not see Condit Diaz going similar to Cerrone Diaz?

by jewjiffshoes on Feb 3, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if Condit comes in flat footed and mentally checked out like cowboy.

I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.

"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"

I played 8======Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.

by OilCheck on Feb 3, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a better idea OC

Read these predictions and stick to what you know

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Feb 3, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

fair enough ;)

and yes, i winked at you Jesse!

I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.

"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"

I played 8======Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.

by OilCheck on Feb 3, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlos ain't got a shot

I mean 436 total strikes against Penn, shieeet.

by HipHopJunkie44 on Feb 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

he was getting hit by penn

carlos have way more power, saying he aint got a shot is dumb!

I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.

"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"

I played 8======Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.

by OilCheck on Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

nah. the difference here.

and from most of Nick’s fights is that him and Carlos are going to be able to reach each other at the same time. Nick was lighting BJ up from the outside cause he could.

Tito Ortiz = God !

by RoBerto. on Feb 3, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick was lighting BJ up from the outside cause he could

you got that right…..that was one of the worst performances i’ve ever seen from BJ…I actually had BJ winning the 1st round. All he has to do is train properly, and he could’ve won that fight. That was a shameful performance by Penn.

by kg12 on Feb 3, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Body shots sap energy/cardio. Penn actually looked very good in the third when he slipped punches and threw more offensively. Those body shots add up. Any one against Diaz that absorbs body punishment will have a long night of deep breathes.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Feb 3, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed......

Carlos is definitely being overlooked. Whenever people reference the fact that Diaz overcame the power of Paul Daley, people also overlook the fact that Daley isn’t nearly as tough as Condit. Carlos wouldn’t have been KO’d like Daley was…not even close. Diaz doesn’’t have the power to KO Condit….but diaz has the volume to win a UD. Great fight, but from a gambler’s perspective, There’s a TON of value in Condit if he’s still at +170.

by kg12 on Feb 3, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

good picks homie

but i hope pierce thiagos koscheck.

by dia mette on Feb 3, 2012 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

As do I, but hope in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up first.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Feb 3, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

here

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Feb 3, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i heard that this dude has a bjj black belt

But i can’t find any mention of it online, anyone know?

Anderson Silva is going to retire Sonnen in Brazil!
Women are at home with their husbands and children. Whores are at the club getting smacked by the Reem.

by goldmouth on Feb 3, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Now 28 years old, Thompson aims to prove he is much more than a standup artist. He has a black belt in Japanese jiu-jitsu, trains Brazilian jiu-jitsu under his brother-in-law, eighth-degree black belt Carlos Machado, and says his wrestling is his second strongest skill behind his striking.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/1/31/2761415/after-62-straight-kickboxing-and-mma-wins-stephen-thompson-makes-ufc

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 3, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

beat by a BE kid

Dammit.

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by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah sorry about that

As far as I understand he’s only black belt in traditional Japanese ju-jitsu since way back, but has a lower rank in BJJ which he hasn’t been training as long

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 3, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I couldn’t find anything on where Carlos ranks him. I would be surprised if it was even close to a brown belt.

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by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

True, I think probably purple or blue. I have some nagging memory of reading that somewhere, but I’m not sure where

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

either way

that is a fight I am really looking forward to! Kid says has been working really hard on his TDD. He seems to have the right mindset for the big show.

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by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh for sure, I’m excited to see this guy in the UFC. I don’t know his level of competition but he had a lot of wins in kickboxing, and I always like technical strikers in MMA. His ground game shouldn’t be too shabby either, so if we’re lucky this could be a really good prospect.

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by Horselover Fat on Feb 3, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know who gave him his black belt, but his brother in law is Carlos Machado. That can’t be bad.

http://www.fightcove.com/wonderboy-has-arrived-stephen-thompson-wants-to-put-on-a-show-in-his-ufc-debut/

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by Deuce02 on Feb 3, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never been so torn on a fight

With who I want to win, between Diaz and Condit, and who I think will win.

I’m now rooting for Condit, just because he’s the underdog. But I think Diaz will take the UD.

But either guy will put up a hell of a fight vs GSP imo

by PotOfGold on Feb 3, 2012 1:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

No way is this going to a decision

Condit finished 26 of 27 wins.
Nick finished 21 of 26 wins.

This will end in submission or TKO.

by TheChrish on Feb 3, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree with the Condit/Diaz breakdown.

Diaz can be knocked out. Anyone can be knocked out. Just because Dailey couldn’t finish him doesn’t mean a better fighter can’t do the job. Condit is a way better fighter than Dailey could ever hope to be. He also has the right mind set/attitude to beat a guy like Diaz. diaz will try and pressure him like he does with most fighters, but Condit is too smart ot let him keep it up. I see this as a toss up with both fighters in for the toughest fight of their lives so far.

by Gurthee on Feb 3, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Good post

No way does Condit go down like Daley did. Diaz can be knocked out.

by kg12 on Feb 3, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

have you guys seen his ko loss to jeremy jackson way back in ’02? Its a brutal GnP KO just like you can imagine Carlos doing.

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by Hardy's in your face on Feb 3, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Condit maybe a better overal fighter than dayley but no way in hell is a better striker or have as much power.

Condits 1 of my fav’s but no way in hell he beats semtex in a striking match. Which Diaz did by the way.

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by d*locc on Feb 3, 2012 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Overrated Thug life Diaz

Glad to see thug life fight a real skilled welterweight for a change, and not a bloated lightweight or a strikeforce bum.

by TheBigSicilian on Feb 3, 2012 6:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

condit
nelson
koscheck
jorgensen
herman

fuck.

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Picks

Diaz
Nelson
Pierce
Barao
Herman
Poirer
Figueroa
Brown
Riddle
Natal
Stiggen

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