UFC Quick Quote: Stupid fighters want wars, intelligent fighters want a quick finish
by Jesse Holland on Feb 24, 2012 5:54 PM EST
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"I love how so many fighter say, I just want a war.. I just listened to a guy who got a quick knockout and then said, I would have rather had a long war. Are you stupid??? I like short fights. If every fight could be quick, Im more than happy with that, but unfortunately its rare. "I just want a war", or "I love getting hit" Really stupid?? Because I dont. Thats why I train, to not get hit & not take damage. This sport is no longer a "tough-man" competition, its a stratigic equation, and most of the time, the more intelligent fighter wins. I don't know about you, but I don't want my brain to be used as a speed bag."
UFC welterweight contender Jake Ellenberger, who punched his ticket to bigger and better things within the 170-pound division with a convincing unanimous decision win over Diego Sanchez earlier this month, tells his Facebook fans he's not interested in seeing how many shots he can take, or how long he can stand and bang against his opponents. "The Juggernaut" would much rather implement an effective gameplan, avoid damage and finish the fight as early as possible. Anyone think Ellenberger has the right approach? Or is the "war" mentality why we love so many of the sport's scrappy fighters?
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I know I like wars cuz it shows that they are not afraid to get hit to hit back. I dont think anyone wants a war but if one presents itself, I beleive thats a true test of your fighting spirit whether you circle out, shoot or just tuck your chin and fire back
by TheSloth on Feb 24, 2012 6:01 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Jake is right
But fans want to see a technical war if that makes sense . You can’t please everybody
" What would Sakuraba do ? " - Ivan Menjivar
by wooly shambler on Feb 24, 2012 7:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That’s why kampmann is one of my favorites at that class. So many of his fights recently have been back and forth technical wars
Part of it is politics
It sounds more badass to desire wars, even though of course, everyone secretly desires a quickie in their favor.
So really, Ellenberger is the idiot for failing to grasp this simple political concept.
by War Forrest on Feb 24, 2012 8:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think some fighters just aren't that technical
…Let’s face it, there are a lot of fighters under the Zuffa banner…but not a lot of them are true mixed martial artists in the purest sense…there are a lot of brawlers
by Starr788 on Feb 24, 2012 10:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who doesn't like when two fighters beat the shit out of each other?
The two getting beat. A smart gameplan is what separates the men from the boys.
by Mike87 on Feb 24, 2012 6:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions
To the two guys above, that are obviously special
he’s saying that fighters that say they like to go to war are stupid…because at the end of the day look at guys like Wanderlei Silva who did that very thing..career longevity is not aided by just brawling.
Dan Henderson is a prime example of someone who didn’t get hit a lot and look at him now hes 41 years old has a chin of doom and is still beating the shoit out of guys 10 years younger!
I as a fan don’t enjoy a slugfest, anyone can throw punches at another guy until one drops, MMA isnt about that.
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 24, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions
You enjoy two MMA fighter just slugging it out? with minimal skill?
I can go to the pub for that
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 24, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Or watch that sport... ummmm... Oh yea BOXING.
Its the weekend bro waste of time.
After a botched kick atempt in the AFC championship game vs the Patriots, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff attempted to commit suicide. Unfortunately, he could'nt kick the chair out from under himself...
by ClinchKing on Feb 24, 2012 7:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Bring up boxing again and see what happens...
See what the fack happens!!!!
by Starr788 on Feb 24, 2012 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ed. As in Special Ed.
After a botched kick atempt in the AFC championship game vs the Patriots, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff attempted to commit suicide. Unfortunately, he could'nt kick the chair out from under himself...
by ClinchKing on Feb 24, 2012 7:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yeah but hendo
is using trt, his not a purest
I'm being honest about this smoking weed separated me from the holy spirit... It came between me and Jesus. - Diego Sanchez
Are we
Discussing our opinions about a fighters’ statement or acting like school kids?
by Mike87 on Feb 24, 2012 7:09 PM EST via Android app reply actions
we're discussing fans being ogre's such as yourself that enjoys a good slugfest
go to a bar for that, Ellenberger has spoken 100% sense here. big time
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 24, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Just bleed asshole
just bleed like Diego Sanchez
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
You need to re read my post bro.
by Mike87 on Feb 24, 2012 7:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Right..
‘Who doesn’t like when two fighters beat the shit out of each other?’
Erm people who aren’t prehistoric people like yourself more than likely
The two getting beat. A smart gameplan is what separates the men from the boys.
A gameplan is what all fighters have when they step into the cage
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 24, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ummmm, thats the headline. The rest of my post is agreeing with what youre saying.
by Mike87 on Feb 24, 2012 8:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Condit must love not warring then
Because he runs like a bitch
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
He also seems to love winning.
He does it often.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Feb 24, 2012 7:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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Whenever Cheick Kongo makes his entrance, that superman comparison makes my day...
Yes its old already.
Thats me and Marco Antonio Barrera in the profile picture.
by Guillermo Ponce on Feb 24, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Or.
Thats me and Marco Antonio Barrera in the profile picture.
by Guillermo Ponce on Feb 24, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Its not crying...
its wiii….wow look at the time.
I’ll stop now.
Thats me and Marco Antonio Barrera in the profile picture.
by Guillermo Ponce on Feb 24, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
About the robbery of the century?
No, I think not.
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
You sounding like my 6 year old daughter now. It's the past get over it. It was close, therefor not the biggest robbery
Wasnt even the worst that night
*clapclapclap* true words were never better spoken
That being said, there are some fighters who aren’t as technically proficient as others, their strategy might be to ‘WAR’ as they say, turning fights into slugfests negates opponents reach advantages or technical boxing, it’s not always just about liking getting hit.
Whenever Cheick Kongo makes his entrance, that superman comparison makes my day...
the fans are not evolving with the fighters...
Fighters who like to brawl do it because that’s what they think the fans want. These casual fans with no emotional investment in the fighters. they don’t care about champions, contenders or legacies, they just want to drink beer and watch violence.
by bloody_cage_junkie on Feb 24, 2012 7:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Intelligent fighters are so intelligent because...
They know they do not want the elbows and knees of a senior citizen, talk funny or get the shakes by the time they are 40 years old.
But….Fuck that, thats booring dawg.
Thats me and Marco Antonio Barrera in the profile picture.
by Guillermo Ponce on Feb 24, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions
When you boil it down, he is right.
But I wonder if this also has to do with him getting his butt whipped in the 3rd round all the time?
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Feb 24, 2012 7:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
no, jt doesn't.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 24, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
I get the logical reasons for his views, and in the long run he is correct.
But look at his record, if it goes to decision, he doesn’t always look too impressive. Not lately anyway. Not every fighter has the ability to finish fights the way he can, so of course he wouldn’t want to engage in wars.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Feb 24, 2012 8:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't like to agree with Ellenberger, but I will...
The guys who want to be in a war, just really like keeping their jobs…because Uncle Dana and Papa Lorenzo will keep you…with guys like Diego, I accept it because I don’t think he has much skill, just a lot of heart and tenacity…but when guys like Wandy say it, I get upset because he just comes across as desperate…Wandy could be a top competitor if he fought smart more often and utilized his techniques
wandy best shot at anybody right now is brawling an clinching thats about it
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Feb 24, 2012 8:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Belfort is going to ruin him
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 24, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
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