UFC 144: Frank Edgar vs Ben Henderson Prediction Thread
This one promises to be a fantastic affair, so let's do a brief walk down memory lane to refresh our memories, then dive into what could be a fight of the year candidate:
Controversy swirled as Edgar was able to overcome being almost killed in the first round against the only man to hand him a loss in his young career as Edgar and Gray Maynard battled a vigorous pace only to emerge both winners.. Or, both losers, as it was announced a draw. Of course that meant an instant rematch had to be booked to settle this one, and why not, as the 2nd battle between the two was extremely entertaining.
Edgar once again proved to be the bigger man as yet again he survived a vicious onslaught in the opening frame, only to come back in round 4 and actually knockout Gray Maynard, handing him his lone loss to date.
Ben Henderson (15-2) unleashed his fury on the world of the WEC as he quickly rised showing off a wide range of arsenal as he was able to force his muscle into almost any situation to gain the upper hand. It wasn't long before we saw Henderson win the interim title by beating Donald 'Cowboy' Cerrone, then defeating Jamie Varner to unify the belt, and then following that up with yet another Cerrone victory to defend the title.
However, lest we forget the night of the flying ninja, as Anthony 'Showtime' Pettis edged a narrow victory in the very last bout the WEC held before being absorbed in to the UFC. Pettis secured the win with an unforgettable wall running kick that floored Henderson and burned it's image in to our craniums.
It also marked the only blemish on Henderson's record since back in 2007, as Henderson has stormed back going 3-0 in the UFC Lightweight division and will most certainly be Edgar's stiffest test to date.
Who takes this one?
With wins over Clay Guida, Mark Bocek, and Jim Miller, Henderson will be nothing short of ready for Frankie Edgar. The most interestin part of this battle is going to be if Henderson can utilize a successful gameplan to finish Edgar if he should find himself able to rock the champ. Edgar has been floored in his last few outings and has arguably been on the brink of being stopped. All the credit to the World to him though, as he's came back each time and finished the fight on top.
But, can 'Bendo' muster up a strong finish if he's able to put the champ on queer street?
Tough to say, but Edgar will definitely look to keep this on the feet and fight off the chiseled exterior as 'Smooth' looks to test Edgar's chin with heavy shots followed with takedowns where Henderson will certainly feel he has the distinct adavantage. Where I am fearful for Edgar is that Henderson presents another element that he didn't have to worry about nearly as much when facing Maynard, and that's fighting off submission attempts.
We've all seen how impossible it is to submit Henderson, so we don't have to even discuss an opportunity of Edgar completing that feat. Henderson however, could very well rock Edgar as Maynard has before, then lock in a submission to wrap this one up in front of a very pleased Japanese crowd.
That's exactly how I see it going down.
Unfortunately, this could result in a quick fight, in which I'm sure many of us are rooting for at least 3 rounds out of these two to make this a little more conclusive on who is the better man and allow us the opportunity to see some exchanges and fireworks. It is for that reason and the reason of Edgar's durability, that I will give the current champ his due by saying he'll survive the initial onslaught of Henderson, but come late round 2 or early round 3, Henderson will find his mark again, rock the champ to within an inch of his life, then follow it up with a submission to secure the deal.
Signed, sealed and delivered, the Lightweight title is yours Ben Henderson.
Ben Henderson, by way of submission via rear naked choke in the 3rd round.
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Edgar by being a better fighter
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you guys really feel that what you've seen from henderson
makes him less of a fighter than edgar? that’s bizarre to me.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Henderson gets rocked in everyone of his fights
his defense is awful, Edgar will be in and out all night
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uhmm henderson was barely rocked
When you compare how bad frankie has gotten his ass kicked in the first round
Cant shit on bendos defense when frankies nearly been out TWICE
One can't be Catholic, and a grown up
by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Benson has been rocked by Miller, Pettis, and Guida
He got rocked by CLAY FUCKING GUIDA
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c'mon guys really?
he made miller look like a pile of shit. he has rebounded and came out looking like a fucking freak his last two outings. the man has a serious game and its more rounded than edgar’s in my opinion.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
CLAY GUIDA
i rest my case.
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yeah cause clay
hadn’t just finished 3 of 4 of his last fights before hendo right?
I REST MY NON BIAS CASE.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Clay finished with submissions? what does that have to do with KO power
and the fact that Miller was able to drop him after the beating he took is embarassing
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he finished them with subs after rocking em
are you serious? he dropped gomi like none other when that was thought to be impossible, then broke dos anjos jaw, and certainly did damage with his fists in that. sorry mate, but you just hate guida way too much to give him any credit.
which is fine. way too many ppl refuse to give guida any sort of credit.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bendo seems to get dropped every time he gets hit hard,
Also he wants nothing with Frankie on the feet, he Karate shit won’t be enough.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 23, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
lol agree to disagree
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 8:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pride really
I would slow down the entire MMA MANIA server if I posted all the gifs of Frankies ass getting rocked by maynard
Your fanboyisms have gotten in the way of your credibility when talking about edgar
Edgar is the champ, but he is far from perfect
One can't be Catholic, and a grown up
by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 23, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
was startin to feel like i was going crazy!
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by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
pride,
guida has some power.. he just usually doesn’t connect in a stand up exchange.
he rocked huerta pretty bad.. and roger has a tough chin..
Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
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lol glad i'm not alone here
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by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
fair enough
we’ll see brotheran.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying Frankie is going to destroy him
But I think he will outpoint him all night. Here’s hoping to one hell of a fight!
hey thats all i want too brother
so long as shes a good one, i’m content.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Everytime Frankie and Bendo are on a fight
Expect fireworks and wars
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oh i defs do
i’ve just been let down before when i was really amp’d for a fight. it’s better to go in with low expectations and be easily surprsied sometimes versus expecting a lot then being disappointed when it doesn’t live up to your expectaions ya know?
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by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I have noticed that Frankie has been putting more power behind his punches in his last few fights. I am calling a TKO in round 4 for Edgar.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
no dice
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by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
there ya go
exactly mang
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
he's got to catch him first and I don't think he's going to enough to win the fight.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 23, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
he'll catch him
No way Edgar goes the entire bout unscathed.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
troll job again! piss off back with Kev!
you must be doing these posts just for a reaction like this.bendos got a great chance,but wins in a close fight not in a walkover
"I mean, your ribs got the same problem that your hands and feet do: they're attached to a wimp."
omg
just cause my method of how the fight ends differs from yours, im trolling? i even said i feel edgars chin allows it go to the 3rd. talk about sour grapes, we still picked the same dude.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
recd by the way
"I mean, your ribs got the same problem that your hands and feet do: they're attached to a wimp."
haha thx asshole
’preciate that.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with Pride but I kinda see a TKO win for Frankie.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 23, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Im leaning towards Henderson.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
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by *Californication* on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions
cali
where’s my 3 posts in 24 hrs praise there buddy?
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Good start back
I rec’d other one
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
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by *Californication* on Feb 23, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
thx brother.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
please sir, can i have some recs?

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hey lemme do me here
these that awful geno? i don’t know why you guys all dislike me lol.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I don't dislike the posts
but asking for recs is pretty sad, man. Like asking for a retweet on Twitter.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
Can you retweet that?
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
whatever, fair enough
But your stuff always goes front page ya know? The recognition will always be there. These long write ups take a while to do to make sure they aren’t littered with errors or false facts.
My bad.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So you are saying that you are writing these as mania exclusives?
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well i did write them specifically for mania, yes
but i did obviously post them on mmbb after. but i used to attach a link etc, and never did for any of these, nor did i make mention of it til you just asked in any of the 3 articles i just put up.
i know its impossible for anyone be nice on the internet, but i was just explaining where i’m coming from.
tear a strip off. it’s expected.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
You can stop being sensitive at any time.
Did this stop being Mania? The fuck.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
no it didn't
it’s just tiring to always have to talk shit to everyone constantly. but i understand that’s the interweb/mania way so whatever. holding a convo is extremely rare.
glad you take such pride in that geno.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
LOL MMBB is back on Mania in full force. Funny, we talked about it earlier today in another thread.
I can almost feel Kev hovering over this one, dissecting every word.
TRAIN BY DAY, JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT - ALL DAY.
I highly doubt kev's even read these
I don’t even talk to the guy.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 8:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no idea
Just said I don’t talk to him. Why don’t you ask him?
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Daniel needs some friends.
I don’t know man, if Ben is gonna win he needs to do it before the championship rounds, he kinda fades late.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 23, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
naw it's all good
I can take the ganging up on me. I don’t comment as much, I get it. I’m not in the loop enough anymore, so no biggie.
But yeah, I think you’re right on the championship rounds. Edgar will probs have more in the tank for sure in rds 4 and 5. He’s gotta steal 1-3 or finish it.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
naw it's all good
I can take the ganging up on me. I don’t comment as much, I get it. I’m not in the loop enough anymore, so no biggie.
But yeah, I think you’re right on the championship rounds. Edgar will probs have more in the tank for sure in rds 4 and 5. He’s gotta steal 1-3 or finish it.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
f*ck I hate blackberry's
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nope, but you can have deez nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to see Ben take this
Won’t be easy as Frankie is tough as nails but if Ben keeps it on the outside he may have a chance.
"The less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice."
- Clint Eastwood
totally agree
won’t be easy, but one big punch can change it all, and i think hendo doesn’t let the opportunity pass him by if he rocks edgar.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
i still can't believe he rebounded from maynard
doing that twice to him. big props for that
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Bendo takes this imo
One can't be Catholic, and a grown up
by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST reply actions
that's the spirit
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Stallion dislikes Edgar, so he is not objective. I have to lean with Edgar based on speed. Otherwise, it will be great to see this contest.
Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
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you think its a tough one to call though or?
what percentage wise do you give to each fighter in taking this ojr?
don’t get to pick your brain often anymore.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see anything that Bendo brings to the table that Gray has not unleashed on Edgar already...
- power
- size
- wrestling
if I had to pick a number it would be 55/45 in favor of Edgar.
Now, in favor of Bendo…
He has :
- endurance
- subs
- heart
If he wins, I can see the sub game being the difference. However, when was the last time you saw Edgar being held down?
Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
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His first fight with Maynard, but that was a loooong time ago now.
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Endurance and heart could be Frankie's two biggest strengths!
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still 55/45 though ojr
so definitely still a coin flip in your eyes anyway, so i’m glad to see that. i think it can be a toss up as well. its certainly not a wash for one or the other like some ppl seem to feel.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
lol the pro's
out of the almost dozen interviewed, only 1 took edgar (koscheck). 10 or 11 others all took edgar.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, who are the pro's all picking? Frankie??
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ya man
woops. sorry i blew that one. koscheck was the only dude that took henderson. typo there. the rest all took edgar hahah
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
That doesn't mean they thought it was an easy fight for Frank
You’d have to be crazy not to think it won’t be competitive as hell
should be a great close fight. Frankie by a very narrow decision.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 23, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i dont see how it can be a bust
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Sherdog's pros picks disagree
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by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 23, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
i watched one that was on rogers sportsnet
they went 10 or 11 for edgar
1 for henderson
this one:
went 5 for edgar
2 for hendo
2 undecided
by my count
wish i could find that sportsnet one. they got concrete yes/no’s and they favored edgar big time.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dkFGrKUgeyA
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
pros pick w/ very little analysis
the fact is at this stage w/ each of their skill sets, this fight is just way too close to predict w/ any confidence.
i can say w/ confidence that this fight will be f’n exciting and fun to watch.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 23, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
If you read it slowly, I was breaking down all of Bendo's attributes in seeing what he brings to the table. There was never a breakdown for Edgar as I assume its already a given what he brings, homey.
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Frankie has a better gas tank than Bendo.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 23, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
I dont dislike edgar
I just really like Bendo
One can't be Catholic, and a grown up
by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 23, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
here, here
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by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
bendo is on a roll
Bj tried to beat edgar on the feet. Maynard rocked edgar and kept trying for the ko in both fights. He wasnt trying for tds like some people are making it out. Bendo will walk frankie down and then take frankie down. And let the smashing begin. Frankie will look good through the first 2 rds. Then bendo will take over an finish him in the 4th. Edgar is awesome but he is getting beaten by the bigger man with equal skills.
Anderson Silva is going to retire Sonnen in Brazil!
Women are at home with their husbands and children. Whores are at the club getting smacked by the Reem.
1 weekSig bet on henderson/edgar goldmouth/bendo pride/edgar
we are very similar in our assessment of this one
glad to see that someone feels its not an outlandish prediction.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
its hard to pick against frankie
After what he has accomplished. And i wont be shocked if he wins,but bendo is who i am putting my money on.
Anderson Silva is going to retire Sonnen in Brazil!
Women are at home with their husbands and children. Whores are at the club getting smacked by the Reem.
1 weekSig bet on henderson/edgar goldmouth/bendo pride/edgar
bingo
we’re in definite agreement on this one.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Frankie is very difficult to get down, and even more difficult to keep down. No way Bendo is going to be able to outwrestle Edgar. If he does keep going after the TDs, Edgar will benefit in later rounds. Bendo’s best chance is to catch Edgar with something and finish him with punches or standing guillotine. I don’t see Bendo winning any other way.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
i agree with the latter half of your comment obviously
as its very similar to how i predicted the fight will go in the article, but i do still feel hendo will surprise some of you when he is able to utilize a better ground game then maynard ever did and a keep edgar there for good portions of time when he wants to.
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by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Edgar
I don’t think Bendo has anything he hasn’t seen before and it will be a close, exciting fight. I am calling for a close split decision in favor of Edgar
Kazushi Sakuraba would submit GSP in his prime.
still getting the general consensus
That most see this narrowly going the way of edgar on here. Can’t wait to see this one unfold regardless.
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by daniel worby on Feb 23, 2012 8:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
People are way too confident in Edgar
He is the slight favorite for the rea
Vegas is good at what they do, and this card has the most lopsided spreads ive seen in a while, theres a reason the edgar/bendo fight is the closest
One can't be Catholic, and a grown up
by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 23, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions
for sure
i was almost definite they were going to make both fighters favorites. they do it from time to time, and i felt this would have been a perfect occasion for one, but oh well. tight fight it shall be.
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by daniel worby on Feb 24, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Nice pick Daniel
I had Edgar.
Sakuraba would get jabbed to death by GSP if they were to fight in a prime vs. prime fantasy match. Beating one dimensional Gracie's is cool and all, but without wrestling you ain't shit.
thx again man
was an awesome fight in my opinion. edgar sure is resilient. you don’t care for bendo though i read hey? i find him really entertaining. long hair or not lol
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by daniel worby on Feb 28, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions

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