ESPN Jeremy Lin comment leads to suspension of 'MMA Live' host Max Bretos
by Jesse Holland on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 AM EST
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"MMA Live" host Max Bretos, who replaced Jon Anik when the latter fled the scene for greener pastures, has been suspended by ESPN for 30 days after he asked Walt Frazier if there was a "chink in the armor."
He was referring to basketball sensation Jeremy Lin, who was born in California to Taiwanese parents.
Bretos, whose wife is Asian, was likely using the oft-heard phrase to describe potential flaws in the still-evolving game of the NBA point guard, who went from bench warmer to barn burner when the New York Knicks called him into play earlier this month.
In fact, the comment might have flown completely under the radar, had it not come on the heels of ESPN editor Anthony Federico's epic gaffe, a website headline on ESPN.com that read "Chink in the Armor: Jeremy Lin's 9 Turnovers Cost Knicks in Streak-stopping Loss to Hornets."
The headline, which Federico tells the NY Daily News was not done to be "cute or punny," remained online for 35 minutes before being taken down.
Following the incident, Bretos took to his Twitter to apologize for his "inappropriate" racial reference.
Video after the jump.
A replacement for Bretos on the next edition of MMA Live has yet to be announced.
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people are too fucking sensi!!
and i don’t get how you can show people bloodied and beaten or dead and no one cares..say something a that is not politically correct and everyone gets butthurt.. i know that people are trying to not sound racist and such..and it can come off as inappropriate..but geezus..lighten up people..there are so many more important things to worry about in this world
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by sarah- on Feb 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Exactly ^
there are more valuable things to worry about…for instance the fact that jada fire retired and j Lo may break up with her new man for a new man….jokes apart I just think this is just the media blowing things out of proportion
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
thanks for saving me the time of typing that all out
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by detroit_fan on Feb 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
exactly fukn world we live in is just rediculous and ESPN is horrible. always so worried about political correctness
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by FarNorCal on Feb 20, 2012 12:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Sarah - posted like a person who has never had to deal with bullshit racism her entire life. I am sure a blue eyed, blonde, tall attractive women has some many tales of discrimination she can share, right?
The concept of PC can be tedious at times but it prevents assholes from picking on minorities in the work place.
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Damn, over my head
Were you being serious about the blue eyed, blonde, tall attractive woman not experiencing discrimination or were you saying that she should know better considering who she is she’s probably experienced plenty of discrimination.
Cause I would think a blue eyed, blonde, tall attractive woman would’ve experienced her fair share competing with males in the work place or just dealing with men trying to get a piece of that ass in general.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Either way OD, an opinion downplaying the importance of watching what you say - AT WORK is foolish. Say what you want outside of work, that's fine. I think a lot of people are forgetting WHERE he said that in reference to an ASIAN. - is
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Yea but chink in the armor is in reference to a crack or weakness it doesn't have anything to do with a race, the saying itself has nothing to do with race at all
It’s not like saying “****** rigging” where the activity specifically refers to and was created as a derrogatory term for a race of people.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
It does not matter what you think. The word is associated with racism and he used it at work. That's the end of it. I agree in principle that outside of work its not a big deal.
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the phrase is not associated with racism
it describes weakness, and has for 500 years.
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you're taking one word of the whole phrase though
The phrase is very common, people know exactly what it refers to. It’s like fag being slang for ciggarrette except it’s even less confusing.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
you're taking one word of the whole phrase though
The phrase is very common, people know exactly what it refers to. It’s like fag being slang for ciggarrette except it’s even less confusing.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think the guy is innocent of racism but he just fucked up at work. That's it.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
That brings up some memories
I remember when I was a teenager workin at a blockbuster, the manager chick hired this black dude to be a shift lead. Then introduces him to everybody at a morning meeting and says “I guess we got our brownie points.” in reference to the non-discrimination clause that the company operates by.
Jaws hit the floor in that one… lol
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
reminds me as well
except my store manager was just being straight up a dick. We were having a appreciation breakfast and someone brought up muslims and he just started saying how their entire religion is to blow things up and it got worse, than the subject turned to abortion. I wish I would reported that prick lol
by HerbDeansBraidofhair on Feb 20, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
You think?
Good guess. Unless he hates his wife and kid! Yeah I bet Sarah never has to deal with discrimination. Like jerks on the Internet who assume everything is given to her because she may be a blonde haired blue eyed white girl. Quick OJR tell us a blonde joke! Sarah, hang in there, your white person check should be in the mail.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 20, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, you missed the point. OD got it, though. Thanks for your contribution. Good insight!
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I got it.
Your sarcastic remark “I am sure a blue eyed, blonde, tall attractive women has some many tales of discrimination she can share, right?” was not lost on me. Intent matters. If I got suspended from work for saying something that accidentally offended someone that obviously had no intent behind it, I’d be on the phone with my lawyer. “Boy, it sure is dark in here.” Oh my didn’t you realize there was a black person in here?! You’re suspended! Utter BS.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 20, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
alright, but
if youve got a picture of Ian McKellan smoking, and theres a headline that says “Fancy a Fag?” or something to that affect, you would not immediately be like “oh, hes just talking about the cigarette”…this is the same thing
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Most in England probably would
where the term is from.
Who is Ian McKellan?
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a gay englishman
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If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
chink by itself is associated with racism
its unbelievable how many people are giving this guy the benefit of the doubt
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
I mean, I don't think he's racist
I think he said something stupid. If I thought he did the former, I’d feel that he should be fired, and not face the lighter punishment
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think hes racist either
but its a racist statement…ive said the n-word before just fucking around before with my friends, and that doesnt mean i have anything against black people, because i dont, but it still would be stupid to say in a public forum
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yup
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
It is not a racist statement
The one word in that phrase, chink, can be used as a derogatory word on its own or in another statement, but in that phrase it has nothing to do with race
"I've visited all 57 states"
This is more like saying PLUG THE DYKE
and taking it as a slur against lesbians. Come on. Context matters here and I don’t really give a shit because it’s some dumb host from some crappy tv show saying an old figure of speech about some player in a league that I don’t give a crap about.
But the phrase ‘chink in the armour’ is not inherently racist. Like, at all. Maybe the way he said it was intended to grab a coupl pun-chuckles, and if so, he’s a moron.
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if it was talking about a lesbian player
it’s just as bad, yes
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Giving him the benefit of the doubt?
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is holding his child in the posted photo and not trying to smother him/her because he hates Asians.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 20, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
he very easily could have said
“Weak Lin-k” and it woulda gotten the same point across, while still being pertinent to the story, and being just as kitschy…but he didnt, he knew exactly what he was saying
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wow
so you are saying it was a racist comment?
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i think he was trying to be cute
and overstepped his boundaries…as i said, there were other ways he could have phrased his headline that were equally clever, that did not include an asian racial slur
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MM gets it.
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trying to be cute?
using a phrase that I have heard countless times, but never referenced to an athlete of Chinese descent.
http://www.amazon.com/Jacob-Rico-Chink-Armor-ebook/dp/B0056BZINW
Funny that people are not boycotting Amazon for selling this book…
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if it were about a Chinese knight
they would be
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
so sad
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I disagree
The idea of PC is good, the way it is employed does not work. People are too sensative. I do not condone racisim or discrimination, but these situations where the media goes after every little story only makes things worse.
The context in which he said “chink in the armor” had nothing to do with race, and the fact ESPN suspended in just shows how laughable our society is. The pussification of America continues
"I've visited all 57 states"
So you obviously believe in coincidences:
Chink – racist term against Asians
Lin – an Asian basketball player
From a plethora of other cliches he could have used…he uses the one that has a historical context of putting down individuals like Lin.
Ok, got it.
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People want to argue like this is some PC exercise
it’s basic common sense – don’t say certain shit when you are the public face of your company. Some people just don’t get it
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
You don't believe in coincidences?
Not that it would matter in this case, because the phrase is so common and not derogatory based on usage.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
so common more than one person has said it.
THEY’RE ALL RACISTS!!!!
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youre being stupid here
and you know it
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
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And if you tire, you die
guess your need to be politically correct causes you to not read sarcasm
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No, I don't.
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Interesting.
Divine intervention and Fate then, eh?
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Just not thinking about it.
For example, I called my one of family members with a lot of love and affection, " Hey my little Blackie " – because she has dark skin.
I do that at work and I am fired.
I am guilty of it, too. Except not at work.
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Is he the "black sheep of the family"?
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sorry...she?
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Beautiful example.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Like I said, I get it. I really do but you can't be too careful at work. Sucks but that's life.
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Luckily he didn't call refer to Lin as his "little yellow buddy"
Two sides to every coin, though.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Man, if he did that it would have been OVER for him.
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people all over twitter
were calling lin “the yellow mamba” after he played the lakers…didnt see that on any major websites though did you?
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
hell I ran that line
to friends. Not for public consumption.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
heres the thing
yes, there are coincidences…and i would even understand if the headline was submitted as is…but youve got TEAMS of people, especially at a major network like ESPN, that look for shit like this…no way this should have ever slipped through the cracks
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
IDK why my post got deleted
But here it goes again. The context is what you have to look at “chink” also means defect, hole, dent etc. Thats where the phrase “chink in the armor” comes from.
The media takes every little comment people make and twists them to make it a race issue.
"I've visited all 57 states"
No it doesn’t. If somebody wants to cause trouble, they simply find a different way to do it…
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
OJR..this will prolly post far below where i want to comment on...but here it goes
why yes..of course i have been discriminated upon..i own a vagina…and i also ended up going to a 3 class room school(for all of elementary school) filled with all doukabour russian people..and i was the only english kid when we moved into their community when i was 5 (thanks a lot dad you douche) so i am completely aware of what it is like to be a minority.
Sarah,
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Then you should know better than to downplay discrimination.
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Or "perceived discrimination" in this case. Or at least be more sensitive to it because you 1st post does not make it seem that way.
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c'mon Sarah, the man called an asian guy a chink on ESPN...and you think there's nothing wrong with that?
and the argument “there are so many more important things to worry about in this world” doesn’t work. There’s ALWAYS something more important going on in the world.
Can I drop the N-Bomb as a newscaster? should people just leave me alone?
If a woman gets raped and beat up, should people give a shit??…cuz there’s more important things going on in the world (child slavery, starvation, pedophilia). If you’re house is robbed, why should the cops care?
What if your boss calls you a cunt? Maybe you should just laugh it off, eh?
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
Exactly. Same goes for the other posters who agreed with her.
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No, you're wrong.
You are making it more than what it is. It is a phrase, a saying, a chink in the armor. You’re taking it way out of context to make it sound racist just like people were that were complainin about it on ESPN.
There was nothing wrong with that. People just making it more than what it is.
It would be waaaaaay different if he flat out called him a chink but the way he used it was nowhere near racist. Stop.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No he didnt
He said “chink in the armor” watch the 8 second video, you will see it was not directed towards his race at all
"I've visited all 57 states"
Intent does not matter. That's the point. He should have known better. I understand context is important but there are some things you cannot get away with. I agree with you in principle but his employer can't let it slide.
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YES IT DOES
Chink does not only mean a derogatory name for someone of Asian decent. The employer can let it slide.
Look at what this story has done. It has created a huge debate/fight over what is and what is not racist. This story has done nothing more than cause more hate between people because of the differences in how they see things.
"I've visited all 57 states"
or the employer can say
“man that was stupid. here’s a suspension, don’t ever embarrass us again in public like that, Mr. public face of our company.”
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Haha! Spot on. No offense, rbf, but that does sound naive for a large corporation like ESPN. I do get your point, though.
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But its not embarassing
There was nothing derogatory about it, if he says black or white do we have to edit that out? I mean that could be derogatory towards someone.
One reporter says “Here comes the hometeam in their black jerseys”
The other says “Those black can really jump high”
Should we suspend both or just the one racist? Because according to you context doesnt matter if the term is derogatory
"I've visited all 57 states"
it is. that's simply all there is to it
black jersey is perfectly acceptable.
bunch of blacks is not (unless it’s the NZ rugby team).
Seriously, how have you folks existed in your day to day lives without such basic common sense?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Then why is "Chink in the armor" not acceptable?
Context. Context. Context.
"I've visited all 57 states"
because
Chink
noun or adj \ˈchiŋk\
Definition of CHINK
usually offensive
: chinese
There are scores of ways you could describe it. Flawed. Lacking in an area. Weakness.
Ya don’t use the word chink to describe a guy of Chinese descent if you don’t want your workplace to beat on you for it.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
And here is the "chink" he used
Noun:
1.A narrow opening or crack, typically one that admits light.
2.A high-pitched ringing sound.
"I've visited all 57 states"
except he used it when describing an Asian guy
duh?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
He used it when describing a professional basketball player
One who has been tearing up the NBA on a nightly basis. After a bad game he uses the term “chink in the armor” which is very common when describing the play of athletes, teams etc.
Stop focusing on race and look at context….
"I've visited all 57 states"
who was asian
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
So?
its not a derogatory phrase, so it doesnt matter who it is said to. Just like how every phrase with the work “black” or “white” is not derogatory. It depends on the phrase and the context in which it was said. If espn used some common sense and saw how he did not use it derogatory then there should be no reason for a suspension
"I've visited all 57 states"
it is a derogatory phrase
chink is derogatory. there’s really no way to escape this
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Well I am tired of arguing with you
But it is not derogatory it depends on context like everything else. If you watched the video the context was perfectly fine and had nothing to do with race and was not derogatory.
If you think it is I feel bad for you. Stop being so sensative, not everything everyone says is meant to be hurtfull or racist
"I've visited all 57 states"
Another example
When a analyst shows a highlight and says that player has “hops” is that not derogatory or racist?
"I've visited all 57 states"
hops has never been associated with a race
but with jumping prowess. Try another example
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
niggardly means lazy
are you aware of the shitstorm that would have been brought down on ESPN if they referred to Iverson that way after his whole “practice” rant?…and they didnt, but you could use that for a white person and it wouldnt be the same at all…people need to think before they put something out there that cant be taken back
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
Show me a phrase with "niggardly"
Where it is not offensive…..
There are other uses for chink then just a derogatory comment.
“chink in the armor” “chink in the fence”
And no they dont mean some asian guy is in a suite of armor or stuck in the fence
"I've visited all 57 states"
dictionary.com has a nice one
nig·gard·ly
[nig-erd-lee] Show IPA
adjective
1.
reluctant to give or spend; stingy; miserly.
2.
meanly or ungenerously small or scanty: a niggardly tip to a waiter.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry thats offensive
Show me a phrase where it is not offensive. I’ll give you an example
The point guard was the “chink in the armor” of the losing team………
"I've visited all 57 states"
I mean I'm sorry for you that you're in such a tunnel vision
that you can’t see where someone might be even mildly insulted by it. You’re just wrong. Sorry you don’t have the empathy to see it, but that’s just the way it is.
Niggardly is a legitimate word that also means stingy and/or lazy.
Chink is a legitimate word that means dent or hole.
Faggot is a legitimate (British) word that means cigarette and also means sticks.
All of them have other connotations when used in regards to black people, asian people and gay (another word that’s changed) people.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
You keep mentioning our society
When/Where is niggardly a legiimate word used to describe someone as stingy or lazy?
On the other hand I’ve heard the phrase chink in the armor used many times to describe a hole etc
"I've visited all 57 states"
its not offensive
its negative…theres a difference, the same way that saying someone or something is a chink in the armor is negative…it only becomes offensive when the person that uses the phrase fails to exercise any common sense
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
WAIT WAIT WAIT
ESPN analysts aren’t allowed to be negative now? They are negative towards players, athletes all the time. You are 100% right it is a negative comment, not offensive. If people were suspended for saying negative there would be no working employees anywhere
"I've visited all 57 states"
I dont know how you have existed if you cant see the difference
Seriously the work chink as used in “chink in the armor” has a completely different meaning than calling someone a chink.
I have no idea why both are bad it doesnt make any sense.
"I've visited all 57 states"
Wow, OJR you're head is really up your ass today.
Usually I agree with you, but today, you sound flat out stupid.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, I just live in a corporate world and I understand that some things are never meant to be fair. Don't worry, some day you will also make big boy money and understand that you have to curb your vocabulary.
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I wish I made big boy money
Maybe if I start talkin shit they’ll up my pay as an incentive to keep my mouth shut.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
It sucks as I work in a very hypocritical, repressive work environment where the PC police are always on alert.
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Yea same here, too many chicks in this office, all of em married or pregnant
I’ll be in my office, chillin and all the sudden I hear this loud cackling, like a gaggle of geese is right down the hall. Too much PMS in this place, bitch is havin a rough day and I get attitude for no reason.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I know right? They're always like "No means no" and something else just as dumb. Women.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 20, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Definatley have to watch what you say
sometimes I wanna be like “is it that time of the month?” nooooooo… bad idea..
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ask them if they're all on the same cycle
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
hell you don't even need to be corporate and making big money
go be a teacher. See how well that kind of goes over.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Big boy money? Corporate world?
I manage my own buckle store. I manage a 4.2 million dollar store. I currently employ 3 Asain’s, 7 blacks, 6 whites, 2 Mexican and a philipino. I know about curbing vocabulary in the work place. But you are nit picking.
We just had our manager meetings in nebraska and I gaurantee if I stood up in front of all 500 managers and the big wigs of the company and used the phrase chink in the armor to describe something affecting our sales or our leadership development, no one would care.
As of a year and a half ago, I’m making 6 figures. No I’m not making millions, but I make enough. Don’t go blabbin about big boy money, you make yourself sound retarded and cocky to try and prove a point.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
belt buckles make 4.2 million?
i’m in the wrong line of work
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Are you trolling? Or have you seriously never heard of the buckle? Clothing store?
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no, I never had
sorry. Where’s it located?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
We're in every state.
So literally everywhere in the US.
California alone has like 30 stores. Just google buckle and see what shows up.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lived in NYC area my whole life
just looked it up, you aren’t within hundreds of miles of me. Shrug. Also, no offense, but I’d never shop at that place after looking at the prices.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
You wouldn't believe how much money girls will spend to make their ass look good.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm all for them doing so, too
whatever makes it easier on my eyes to stare at. That’s the nice thing about being a guy who just doesn’t really care, I go buy jeans from Marshalls or Filene’s Basement or wherever for $25 and spend my money on more important things. Like beer
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I manage my own buckle store.
Congrats.
So that means you can say what you like without having to worry about looking over your shoulder.
Unless you have a regional manager to deal with. NOT the same scenario and you know it.
Wow, OJR you’re head is really up your ass today.
Usually I agree with you, but today, you sound flat out stupid.
I am the one who sounds retarded?
Really?
I find it very hard to believe you manage anything with these types of reactions to a different POV – and if you do – then no wonder people don’t buy US based products anymore.
Have a good day.
Signed,
Big Boy Money OJR
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You really are an idiot because everything you say you are making silly assumptions about something that you have no knowledge of?
Do you know how the buckle works? Im sure you don’t. So stop trying to act like you do.
I work with my district manager and my regional manager is two hours away from my store and is constantly on store visits. I have a manager review every month.
Because I’m not nit picking like you, you don’t know how I’m a manager? Lol, laughable.
I’m a very successful manager. on pace to become the northwest district manager in 5 years. Quit talking about stuff that you don’t know about.
As for buckle as a whole. We grew 30% last year. Year after year we’re growing so peoe are buying. But keep talking about the stuff you don’t know about, it’s giving me a great Monday morning giggle.
I can dress in nice clothes for work. I don’t have to sit behind a desk and work the 9-5. I can take days off when I want. I make good money and not to mention that because we sell affliction, American fighter, and filter, all sponsors of ufc fighters, once a year at meetings I get to meet ufc fighters. I’ve met rampage, r. Franklin, f. Edgar, couture, griffin, bonner, Hughes, machida, and GSP.
I make good money, work with beautiful women, help beautiful women with their clothes, and get to meet ufc fighters every year. I love my life.
So keep talking, it’s great.
Signed
BIGGER BOY Tyson.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good Lord. I try to debate someone in a snarky manner and I get a fucking resume. LMAO. Whatever, man.
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When you try to debate with someone and one of the first thing in your argument
Is bringing up your job and your makin “big boy money”, it discredits everything else you try and say. This site and this argument isn’t te place for dick measuring but yet you still try to fit it in there. Immature.
LMAO, whatever man. Now you’re trying to play it off because you thought you were Smart by saying that thinking I worked at pizza hut or something when in the end you come out looking stupid.
So yes, haha it is quite funny.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You just don't make that big boy money son
You don’t understand.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
No offense to anyone who works at pizza hut.
Your garlic bread is money.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol
Dude when you said you manage a buckle store I had this vision of Del Griffith at the Port Authority selling shower curtain rings. I had no idea that was a real store. Then again, I’m only allowed out of the house to go to the gym and buy bagels, so I’m probably a poor example anyway.
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Feb 20, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
off topic
why hasn’t mania (or be) ran an article on Mo’s dire health?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
who is Mo?
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Feb 20, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
That guy who created Blackfly?
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Feb 20, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Mo money Mo problems
You know him well Holland..
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I need a lifeline here … anyone
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Feb 20, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
King Mo Lawal
Is my guess.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I see now
"That debt stuff isn’t true," said the light heavyweight while speaking to The MMA Corner. However, the fighter did not go into the specifics of his monetary situation.
Due to the infection, Lawal has been forced to receive treatment through a PICC line straight to his heart. And while the fighter recognizes the situation is less than ideal, it is certainly better than losing his leg or even worse, death.
"I could’ve died!" Lawal proclaimed. "But I’m a fighter physically, mentally, and spiritually."
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Feb 20, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
He can’t be that bad, he was on Sherdog radio today
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Feb 20, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Shrug
PICC line is kinda serious. Just strange, since you folks usually have an article about everything. One of the reasons I come here.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't watch the video, so correct if i'm wrong.
but he didn’t outright call him a chink, right?
He used a VERY COMMON terminology.
The dude’s wife is Asian.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yea he never directed it towards Lin
it was a phrase, “chink in the armor.” not “Lin is a chink.” That makes a huge difference imo.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I watched it
That’s bullshit.
Again. People. VERY COMMON phrase.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
you're right, I may have overreacted in my post.
It definately is a very common phrase.
However, just because he’s married to a asian lady doesn’t mean he can get away with saying chink. He doesn’t have to be racist to get fired…just say something innappropriate. An asian guy can get fired for saying chink if he were a broadcaster.
I dont agree with the line of thinking “I can call him a nigger cuz I’m black”.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
Either do I
the wife info. was to aid the line of thinking that he was NOT attempting to be racist.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
its a common derogatory term
not something that’s perfectly ok
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. AT WORK, in reference to an Asian player is too much to deflect, even if he was unaware. It sucks but that's today's working world.
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Not at all
You think “Chink in the armor” or “Chink in the chain” in description of someones weakness is a Derogatory? It is a COMMON term.
Seriously.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
it's not
you’re ignorant of simple english, and that’s fine, but stop pretending that what you don’t know is fact
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
That is not a common phrase used?
Holy fuck you are stupid.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
... lmao
Have you been unaware this whole time that chink has more than one meaning?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Are you aware of the meaning as it WAS USED?
It is a COMMON term.
Seriously.
You Reply
it’s not
You’re a fucking slackjaw.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
For about the fifth time
You think "Chink in the armor" or "Chink in the chain" in description of someones weakness is a Derogatory?
Kindly use the word niggardly when referring to a stingy black person. Be my guest.
I can use block quotes too!
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
There's a diff, you're cherry picking one word out of a phrase and then twisting it out of context
Your example is blatantly racist, the phrase in question has nothing to do with race at all and anybody with any sense knows this.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
it's the same example man
it’s a completely legitimate word, but when you use it in application involving someone of a particular race, it carries connotations. Just don’t do it in a public setting, like all inappropriate jokes.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
End thread ^^^
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Then re-open in and explain the context it was used in
the usage of the word within the phrase. Then how commonly used and accepted the phrase is.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Why would that be acceptable or right to you?
The guy has his phrase twisted, taken out of context and is subsequently punished for the use of that phrase and you guys are like “Yep, good job ESPN, that’s how it should be, good call on that one boys.” pffft…
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Tangenital here
have you ever worked for a bureaucracy or corporate workplace? Do you not know how to talk to different people? It’s perfectly contextual, and the fact that he was suspended instead of fired like the guy who wrote it on the website indicated that ESPN took that into consideration.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
yea but you acting like that's the right thing to do in this situation is what bothers me
Cause if anything I view it as a huge flaw in this society that needs to change.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
this is liberal bleeding heart PC BS at its finest… Chink in the armor? Are you even kidding me? Thats so far from racist I cant even fathom this being an issue…..
by Chuntsman949 on Feb 20, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not a fan of being PC
however, I also understand that if you’re a public company, there’s no reason to ever even put yourself in the position where something could cross the line. It’s a business decision – say something stupid and you lose money. So just have people not say stuff that could even be off-color. Again, we’re kind of straying (and that’s fine, this is a good conversation), and I feel that society as a whole gets too wrapped up in race, but I also understand, especially being a minority, that random words someone thinks are OK, are actually insulting on some level.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
My god, I will not repost what I've already tried to explained to you, numbskull.
Re-read, copy/paste into web dictionary, talk to some people, explore google if need be.
Until then shut the fuck up.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
how nice is it
that you’re still 100% wrong, and still trying to argue this?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
"ignorance is bliss"
is another common phrase.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
you really should look it up one day
You’ll find it’s very applicable to you. Keep using the word chink to describe Asian people in your workplace tho, I look forward to your pending unemployment
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
wow
Keep using the word chink to describe Asian people in your workplace tho,
That hasn’t happened once. Not in this thread. Not on ESPN.
Why is that hard to understand?
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it did
It happened multiple times on ESPN. 3x on the website and once by Bretos
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
lol
I’m with you on this one, I can’t see where he deserves the suspension. I understand we live a world of whiners and cry baby’s but there wasn’t anything said there that should offend the asian community.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
as a journalist
you are responsible for everything you put out there…whether it be for your company, on twitter representing your company, etc…there is NO WAY that saying “Chink in the armor” in reference to an asian player should ever have been said…just think
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
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PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING is FUCKING RETARDED
by Nokimono on Feb 20, 2012 10:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My wife is chinese. I call her a chink all the time. She could give a shit.
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING is FUCKING RETARDED
by Nokimono on Feb 20, 2012 11:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he didn't call him a chink... he just said chink in the armor
its not the same thing, I am black and I grew up in Italy, all white schools,all white basket ball team and a whole lotta racism….this guy wasn’t trying to be offensive he just used a bad choice of words
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by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
that wasnt calculated at all…if you think that, ive got some oceanfront property in kansas city for sale if youre interested
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
You aren't aware of the commonplace of the phrase.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
what the fuck
im very aware, mostly because im a literate american whos been alive more than 8 years, but that doesnt matter…and everyone is too blind to realize that
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
why doesn't it matter?
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because the commonplace of the phrase
does not mean its acceptable in this case…everyone is preaching context…well the situational context of the phrase’s use in this case is that it was made in reference to a player of asian descent…if everyone is too stupid to realize that “journalistically,” and not colloquially, it is incorrect, nothing i say is going to change that…but the fact of the matter is, ESPN handled this correctly, and nothing any of you people are gonna say is going to change that either
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
I'm still waiting to see Melo come back tonight and ballhog
and people use the completely applicable word niggardly to describe his game. Can’t wait.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
That's a dumb comparison
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
it's the same thing
word has an applicable meaning. it’s also offensive to group _. go ahead, ESPN anchor, I dare you.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
If there was a commonly used phrase with the word niggardly in it then it would be the same. U keep using that as a comparison,
to be a proper comarison it should be in a phrase as well known. Not to be a dick but u have used it heaps as a comparison and i dont see it. I can see where the problem is but that example does not cut it/
I got nothin clever to say/
There's plenty of other examples, that's just the simplest one
use the line “plugging the dykes” when referring to a lesbian is another easy one. Also, seeing as how you’re British, I’m not sure you really grasp this fully.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
its actually not
but since its contrary to your argument, youre going to say it is
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
It is because it's so blatant I couldn't see ANYONE ever "accidently" using that word to describe something a black dude is doing
There’s no way in hell someone would use that word with no negative intentions. That’s why it’s a completely absurd comparison to me.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
chink in the armor is a negative comment
it becomes offensive when used in reference to an asian person…the same way niggardly is negative, but not offensive unless directed at a black person…i said before, its entirely possible that the writer of the headline simply made a mistake because its a common phrase, and i dont fault him for that, but SOMEBODY up and down the line should have caught that mistake and fixed it before it EVER went public…you can lean one way or another on political correctness, but its a part of life, and its magnified when it comes to journalism of any kind
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
Maybe
But that doesn’t make crap like this right. This is not something people should tolerate IMO, watching someone who made an honest mistake take a suspension for saying something that really isn’t that offensive at all. That door needs to be closed cause it has been dangerous for years and is only getting worse.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
but youre assuming he made an honest mistake
what if he did this intentionally? what if his thought process was “Lin is Asian, so ‘Chink in the Armor’ would be a good, kitschy headline, wouldn’t it?” Then what?
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
Really? You honestly think the guy is that dumb?
“I’m gonna get on TV in front of god knows how many people and make a chink joke about an asian guy.” – So in your opinion, that’s how it went down?
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
i didnt say that
i said its a possibility, one that neither of us know is the case or not…and there are people that do stuff like that all the time…guys like Don Imus, Mike Francesa, Angelo Cataldi, etc. have made careers out of being borderline inappropriate on their radio shows…and theres a line that shouldnt be crossed; the great ones know how toe it, the good ones dont go near it, and the wannabes cross it
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
nothing any of you people are gonna say is going to change that either
Don’t forget this phrase next time you drone on and on about something you disagree with.
The argument is not to change it this time. It is to change the attitude going forward. I find it absurd that our society is so concerned with possibly hurting someone’s feelings that common terms are ok in some light and not in others.
The hypocrisy behind this sickens me.
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I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
you fail to include the fact
that i said nothing i say is going to change the public opinion either, so im very aware of the phrase and i wont forget…yet your droning on and on as well, just on the other side of the argument…id rather you not condescend, because its kinda pathetic if thats all youve got
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
your condescension started on your first post
everyone disagreeing with him sounds ignorant and stupid…theyre just too ignorant and stupid to realize its them
or
if you think that, ive got some oceanfront property in kansas city for sale if youre interested
So please take your self-rightousness away from here if you don’t like it to be thrown in your face.
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so the fact that i responded to someone
who called someone else stupid by saying that they, in fact, are stupid is condescending? you told me to remember that nothing i say will change anything when i disagree with something, meanwhile you do the exact same shit, and then finish up your comment with hypocrisy sickens you, right after making a completely hypocritical statement…i came to this argument with reason, you didnt, all you could do was post sarcastic comments up and down the thread…i didnt think id need to explain journalistic integrity to someone my fathers age, but apparently your not taking to it too well…no one gives a fuck what you think as far as whether this was right or not, just like no one gives a fuck what i think…the only opinion that matters are those of ESPN, and whether you agree with them or not, they handled this correctly
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
Yea cause no one posted this article up so that we could discuss it or debate it or voice our own opinions on it...
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
so, you agree with me?
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
No, ESPN's opinion is not the only one that matters
If enough people called in and complained about how they’re overreacting by suspending this guy then ESPN would probably respond by canceling that suspension. So public opinion is always gonna matter.
The sad thing in all of this is that public opinion is going to side with the whiners and cry baby’s and claim that this suspension is justified when it’s complete garbage. All thanks to countless years of PC garbage crammed down everybody’s throat through television and the media.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
sure it is
ESPNs opinion is the only one that matters when it comes to internal decisions made by ESPN…if they cancelled the suspension, theyd get just as much backlash for that, if not more, as they did for the suspension itself…in a polarizing situation such as this one, youre damned if you do and damned if you dont, so the smart thing to do is to air on the side of caution and cut ties, which they did
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
Smart thing to do isn't always the RIGHT thing to do
Sometimes to make a statement you have to put your foot down and take an unpopular position. People need to stop being cowards.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN is a business
so you cant expect them to make a personal decision…they made a business decision, and any big business would do the same…way of the world, my friend
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
Well I reject "way of the world"
not gonna sit here and support a decision that I feel is wrong just because “that’s the way it is.” Change can never occur keeping with that type of mentality.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
im not asking you to accept it or agree with it
my entire position in this thread was based on trying to get everyone that said this is “stupid” to understand the rationale behind it…as a journalism major in college, and i guess technically a journalist since i have had my stuff published, i look at it from that perspective, and from that perspective this guy was wrong and ESPN handled it correctly
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
This guy made a mistake and ESPN handled it incorrectly
Fear and cowardice are no excuse for helping to sell us as a society down the river. Cause that’s what’s happening and has been happening for years. People are getting punished over smaller and smaller offenses, punishments on all offenses from jail time to fines are only increasing.
This type of crap applies to all of us and when you let a company set a precident like this by concenting to it or agreeing with it you aren’t doing yourself or anybody else in this country any favours.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
damnit
I knew I shoulda left here 30 minutes ago.
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again
you make a deflective comment, rather than respond effectively…i dont come into polarizing threads to make people feel stupid or to put people down…but when people dont even attempt to engage in an actually intelligent debate, then what can i do? why should you have left 30 minutes ago ulf? because there are people who disagree with you? i dont get it
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I didn't want to get mad at you
and myself
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You wouldn't like Ulf when he's angry...
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
i dont care if you get mad at me
i certainly dont want you to get mad at yourself, but if youre gonna get angry at me thats fine…as long as you dont hold a grudge, and youre a man so you shouldnt, it doesnt matter…ive gotten mad at people on here, it is what it is, its just a matter of not taking it personally, which i would tend to think youd be able to do
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
nothing taken personally. No grudge.
I just don’t care if someone is offended by “chink in the armor”. It is a harmless phrase to me. If that got me suspended at my job (which it wouldn’t because I am not owned by a liberal media company) I would be seriously pissed off.
Did you hear what Lin said about the whole thing? Has he commented? BTW, I only heard of this kid yesterday morning. I hate the NBA.
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you came in late after I had already made my debate and was getting angry at the comments
I didn’t want to make it again, yet I engaged you because of our “relationship”.
You or me believing what ESPN did was correct is a moot point in this debate. I agree, our bickering changes nothing. What I don’t like about the whole crux of the argument is how a phrase can be ok for one person and not another. That is hypocrisy at its worst and my problem with this instance.
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it just depends on how you look at it
i think it makes sense that you shouldnt use a derogatory comment regarding a persons race to a member of that race
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
and I don't see the phrase as a deragatory comment.
that is where we differ.
I don’t know if that makes me short-sighterd or not, but I actually had to stop and think why it was offensive as the “other” meaning went completely over my head at first.
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not necessarily short sighted
but i took notice right away…listen, im fully aware of the fact that “chink in one’s armor” is a common phrase, i know what it means, and it was appropriate if youre strictly discussing gameplay…however, when you put that out there on the internet, it was his responsibility as a journalist to look at it from the readers perspective…and i do not for one second believe that he typed the headline, read it, and didnt make the connection
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
Max Bretos didn't write that headline
“ESPN editor Anthony Federico’s epic gaffe, a website headline on ESPN.com that read “Chink in the Armor: Jeremy Lin’s 9 Turnovers Cost Knicks in Streak-stopping Loss to Hornets.”
That means this is totally off the cuff and unrelated to the ESPN headline or he was reading off a cue card/teleprompter.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
exactly why bretos only got suspended for a month
and federico is the one that got fired…whats your point here?
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If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
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Thought we were arguing over wether the suspension was justified
But if your previous post was about Federico, then nm. Couldn’t say wether he did or did not write that intentionally to be tongue in cheek.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
No, the guy repeated a headline of what is considered a commonly used phrase. It just happens that some people are to racially sensitive and immediately translated it to being a racist comment.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
two_words...i beleive this reply will not be in the right place...
i would rather work in a place that a boss could call me a cunt if i was being one!! i don’t think people working in the media should call people the n word etc etc..i believe this instance was blown out of proportion..
and honestly rape and abuse is hardly fucking curbed by anyone as it is..people care more that this man may have said chink…if a broadcaster said..some slut got raped..well that is about the only way people would make a huge deal about rape..oh..no!! it would be because a broadcaster just called a woman a slut..
Sarah,
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i completely disagree
it is the job of a professional journalist to be unbiased and objective no matter what…that includes political correctness…the same way that it is a journalists job to get the story to the people who care (your bloodied, beaten, and dead example), it is also their job to do it the right way…ESPN is rightfully embarrassed by this
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
As far as the anchor being suspended it is a bit much as I’m sure he was reading a telprompter and it was already a head line on espn.com. The guy that posted that online got fired and should have. It was classless but I don think this guy did much wrong. Especially seeing as how he repeated something espn had already posted that headline. The entire story is up at espn.com. This doesn’t cover the whole story
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by LOKIE on Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
over reaction by the PC police
I am black and even I can see that the context of his statement wasn’t racist at all just a case of unfortunate choice of words
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 11:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
???
What the hell does being black have to do with anything?? Lin is of Asian decent. SMH.
asians and blacks are both minorities hence my statement
simply stating that even I as a minority can see the over reaction in this issue….is your estrogen level lower now? and its descent not " decent" SMMFH…
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure I get it either
Would you agree if the comments were about a black athlete? For example, what did you think of ABC pulling Limbaugh for saying that much of the media was hoping for a black athlete to do well? I’m not accusing you of anything by the way, just an honest question.
I too think this is overplayed a bit, but this is the world we have created. When guys like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (to name a few) find racism in every comment made by a media personality, and then demand for heads to roll, we can expect more of the same.
To be clear, I have no problem with a private business making executive decisions when someone has intentionally gone out of their way to offend someone. However, nowadays, it seems like you can’t say anything without someone getting their panties in knot.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
I should say a "black QB" as in Donavan McNabb
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
you do realize I am agreeing with you right?
did you actually read my comment? or did you automatically assume I was saying something else simply because I put the word " black" in my comment? read it again you are preaching to the choir.
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely, I understand that
Not trying to pick a fight at all. just asking you honestly, if you might feel differently, had the comments been about a black athlete. My point, is people tend to be more offended when it’s their own kind. I’m guilty of the same from time to time. Which means, we have all (in general) contributed to this environment where someone is always offended, or someone else is offended for them.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
My point, is people tend to be more offended when it’s their own kind. I’m guilty of the same from time to time. Which means, we have all (in general) contributed to this environment where someone is always offended, or someone else is offended for them.
Agreed.
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not really.
unless it is obvious and blatant I don’t dwell on things like this even with black athletes…but in this case I don’t think the author meant any disrespect I just think it was a dumb mistake on his part.
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shaking My Mother Fucking Head = smmfh
I hope you are just trolling because you can’t be this stupid. You obviously want to create a situation out of nothing, don’t waste my time or yours you will just look worse.
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Your wasting your own time with the lame as “I’m Black”. Again WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK IF YOUR BLACK. Every color in the world experiences racism black, white, chicano, native americans, ricans etc….Your a bitch straight up. “Even I can see the overeaction” HAHAHA again who cares.
you are very angry about something...
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I think he would have got away with it by using slang...
Like Chank..
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac
Unacceptable
“If there’s a bad driver behind the Lin wheel, it is….”
“If there is a slant in the eye of Lin’s game, it is…”
Acceptable
Any all all universally used terms, that otherwise would not have been questioned.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
In everyday use, nobody cares. At work, you get suspended, written up, talked to or fired.
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At work maybe, when you work for ESPN.
If it was the same situation in any other workplace that doesn’t have the fire power ESPN does there wouldn have been anything that happened because nobody would overract like everyone and yourself is doing.
Someone probably didn’t even see the discussion and heard “chink” and took it completely outta context and ran with it, complaining like bitches. And since people were complaining a suspension came.
This is probably how the suspension went. “hey Max, so today when you were talking, when you asked about the weakness of Lin and you used the expression chink in the armor, some dumb bitch wanted to troll so they made a big deal about it, started complaining and now it’s making the headlines so they are forcin our hand on this one. I wish I could just give you a slap on the wrist but these people bitchin are ridiculous. I’ll give you a 30 day suspension. But drinks are on us, sorry for these uber sensitive pussy’s, have a good vacation. Drinks are on us”
Did any of you watch the openin to Saturday night live a couple of days ago? There were a lot of derogatory terms being thrown back an forth about both Asain’s and blacks, and EVERYONE laughed about it! There was no complaints no bullshit, no crying. Someone takes this out of context and people raise hell.
If you didn’t see the SNL bit, watch it. It’s hilarious an way worse than this, again, people just makin it way more than what it is.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Trust me, try some off color jokes or phrases at work at a corporation like ESPN and you are on a 1 way track to trouble, man. I am not pro-PC or anti-PC. Just Pro- Common Sense.
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I've dropped the n-word more times than I can count
None of them occurred in any area where I’d ever be in trouble for it
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
So a place like NBC doesn't care about PC as much as ESPN?
Because if you watch that SNL bit, you would think they didn’t give two shits about it the way they were talking. But I’m sure there were complaints to NBC, but they didn’t freak out about it.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
satire of racial language
is not racist. it’s satire
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
500 year old phrases that are not racial
are not racial.
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common sense
you need some
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thicker skin
goes better with BBQ sauce
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Chicken skin?
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im not offended by the comment
but its not unreasonable that an asian person would be…im not advocating for political correctness, but i am advocating for ESPN in this case…that was a poor choice of words from a professional journalist in this case
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
See, that is actually the problem. It is unreasonable that a Asian would be offended by this.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Your perception is too narrow I'm afraid
if you can’t see why someone who perhaps has heard that word used at them as an insult for years, might not be even a bit insulted when a major company uses it in place of tons of other acceptable labels
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
My empathy meter is empty
I can’t continue this without getting angry, so I am done.
The fallacy of making everyone happy is dusgusting to me. The world sucks, people lose and Jeremy Lin has chinks in his armor.
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chink lover.
I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac
so if you slacked on something at work
and someone said you were being “niggardly” instead of “lazy” that wouldnt rub you the wrong way?
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
There's no fucking comparison to that at all
That word is OBVIOUSLY and BLATANTLY made to be racist, that is it’s intended purpose. The quote “chink in the armor.” has NOTHING to do with race AT ALL. ZERO, ZIP, NONE, NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Winner
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
actually, loser
however, since he agrees with your POV, you think hes a winner…youre just the second ferret off the cliff
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
no its not
its not “niggerdly”…and in fact “niggardly” comes from viking language where “nigger” is derived from spanish…“niggardly” also outdates “nigger” in the english language…the difference between you and me in this argument is that I know what im talking about
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
no, it isn't
niggardly pre-dated n******. It has been in use for centuries, and while it’s certainly not popular over the past 50 years, it doesn’t mean it wasn’t a perfectly legitimate word.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
dont worry
already got you covered lol
If you think, you are late
If you are late, you use strength
If you use strength, you tire
And if you tire, you die
And because of today's society any form of that word is offensive
But, the word chink can be used in non offensive statements like the one by this espn reporter
"I've visited all 57 states"
You say wasn’t like it isn’t still. The only thing wrong with the word niggardly is that it is to awkward to use in normal conversation so has faded from usage.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to use this word in every post I make from now on
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 20, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
w/e you guys are WRONG
And ESPN is wrong for suspending him.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN can handle their own punishment however they see fit
If they’d ignored it, they’d be wrong. Suspending him seems exactly the correct way to handle this.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
That's what's wrong with this country right there, people thinking that this is an acceptable way to handle this situation
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
there are tons of things wrong with this country
on the scale of 1 to a billion on what’s wrong, this is closer to a 3 than it is to 300mil
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
considering #1 is usually most important
giving it a top ten is pretty decent of you.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus Christ
WHAT WAS HE THINKING USING THE 100% HISTORICALLY ACCURATE COMMENT DESCRIBING LIN’S WEAKNESSES?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
the man is not infallible
he has a chink in his armor which is turning the motherfucking ball over.
1. Chink in the Armor 1) An narrow opening and vunerable area in one’s armor that the opponent will usually aim for. This term relies on “chink” in the sense of “a crack or gap,” a meaning dating from about 1400 and used figuratively since the mid-1600s.
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Have people not heard this phrase?
Common, often used term here boys.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
The Man never let them read
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 20, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
So a man, who is married to woman of Oriental descent, uses a term that has been used figuratively for 500 FUCKING YEARS and gets suspoended for it?
and you think it is ok?
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Definition of NIGGARDLY
1
: grudgingly mean about spending or granting : begrudging
2
: provided in meanly limited supply
— nig·gard·li·ness noun
— niggardly adverb
Use that to describe a black guy’s actions. See how well that works.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Commonality based on social/culture acceptance is the difference here.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
you keep saying that
however chink is a derogatory term, and has been forever. You keep ignoring this fact
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
You are ignoring the USE of the word in the PHRASE
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Again
use the word niggardly to describe a black dude being stingy in your role as a public speaker at work. See how well that goes over.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
As soon as you find me a 500 year old phrase that includes the word niggardly and has been accepted as a common PHRASE
oh wait…
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
pharse, kermit. PHRASE
Do i really need to define each word in my statement so you understand that a single word does not constitute a phrase?
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Ulf, he's an idiot. Don't bother explaining.
He’s trolling without knowing he’s trolling, that’s how dumb he is. And he still doesn’t get it lol
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Corey
You keep saying the same thing over and over. Whether you like it or not “Chink in the armor” is a common phrase that has been used to describe a weakness for centuries and is still commonly used. “Niggardly” may be a term but it is not commonly used and never was. That is a term purposefully coined to be hateful not to legitimately describe something.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I know that chink in the armor and where it's origins are
And if Bretos or anyone else in a public setting had said this about Deron Williams or Chris Paul, there’d be no issue. However, it was said in regards to a guy of Chinese (Taiwanese) descent. That’s the problem.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
A completely ridiculous notion imo. A commonly used term should not be used or not used simply based on who the target is. That is more racist then the poor choice of words they used by far.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
it just is
you can try and pretend otherwise, but that’s the way society exists now. And quite frankly, it’s the same reason you shouldn’t say something like that guy at Blockbuster did (ctrl f that, it was in this thread), when you make a joke about hiring a black guy and say ‘brownie points’.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
No, that is the world that some people want to exist and continue to try and enforce. Others like myself find absolutely nothing wrong with what was said there as again it is a commonly used term regardless of the person being referenced.
The joke about brownie points being earned is on a completely different level. It was obviously meant to be racist in a cute way. They are night and day comparisons.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
listen
if you’re a public face of a company and say something that they don’t like, you get in trouble. You say something that might upset some ethnic group, and maybe that ethnic group dos something about it, losing that co. money. Do you know where the line is that [ethnic group] ignores and does nothing about it an [group] or even [5 or 10 people of group] decide not to ever buy a product from your company again because of it?
It’s a business decision. There’s no reason for a company to risk losing money when it could have been phrased any number of different ways that had zero potential to offend anyone with even the thinnest of skins.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
You are changing the goal line here. The point is that regardless of whether or not ESPN made a business decision to say that his choice to use these words was wrong, it does not mean that they made the right choice. Or that they made the right choice.
Anyways, got to take my daughter to dance class. Enjoy the fun here. :)
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
jeus christ you dumb fuck
Do you understand the implications of commonality and social/cultural acceptance?
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'd ask the same thing of you
just without resorting to petty name calling
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Luckily I checked my bags before entering this thread
I seriously think you do not understand the words being used in here.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
chink
Chink
noun or adj \ˈchiŋk\
Definition of CHINK
usually offensive
: chinese
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Dumbfuck
worse than a DUMBSHIT.
Dumbfuck is a whole other level of stupid. theres weird, idiotic, stupid, dumbass, dumbshit, then theres dumbfuck.
erica:kaity whats the answer to number four on the math homework?
kaity: erica its simple. look you ad two and three together.
your such a dumbfuck!
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I love it when people resort to name calling
when they pretend their facts are real and can’t win an argument. You get that satisfying feeling of knowing just how much smarter you are when the other person starts whining and cursing at you.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Lets fight.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
O shit, do you also post under the name P123??
Ask him where he lives, WTF do you live Cory, we can all pitch $$ in and make this shit happen, it’s time to settle this.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I live in Jersey City
I’ll be covering the Muay Thai event at the Garden on the 16th for HKL if you’ll be in the city!
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Tag Team
O Damn Cali Caught You
vs
The Slackjaws
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
You girl, are losing this argument lol.
They are calling you names because they are talking to a pebble.
You keep taking words out of context. People can do that all day to make their point but they don’t, why, because they would be wrong. But in this case, you’re right? Lol you are and idiot. They’re not name calling, they are stating facts.
You are an idiot – fact.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lmao
You girl
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
So Lancelot had a derogatory Chinese man in his armor?
I bet Guenivere was not pleased.
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yup
and that black guy who wasn’t share was being real niggardly. Go ahead, say that in your workplace, lemme know how that works out for you.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I work from my home
and just said it. Nothing happened.
Now what?
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see? appropriate setting!
I make inf off-color jokes, just not when I’m in a public setting!
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
But I did what you said?
oh wait…not everything is black or yellow white…
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Exactly
and in this setting, in the public sphere as the spokesperson for his company, he said something stupid and got suspended for it. What’s the problem here?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
The problem is that he got suspended over something that should be a non-issue
But because of the PC brainwashing that goes on and all the bleeding heart bullshit this society is stopped up with now we have bullshit like this happening. A person can’t even make an honest mistake anymore in this society, this is garbage.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn't even fired
and is making a fine living still. I think he’ll be just fine.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
It's setting a precident and stuff like this has been for years
And it’s only getting worse, people today are getting punished for more and more menial, pointless crap then ever before. This type of behaviour/response to this situation is leading down a real bad road IMO.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Then I am reporting you to ESPN!
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"If you seek truth you will not seek victory by dishonorable means, and if you find truth you will become invincible." - Epictetus
Niggardly is not used even close to as commonly as that phrase is.
You’re reaching dude, you’re reaching.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 20, 2012 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is hot
Guenivere was gettin tag teamed
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Cali and Ulf are right here....
Even tho niggardly is in the Websters dictionary when was the last time you’ve heard someone use it (social/cultural)?
As opposed to a commonly used term “chink in the armor”.
A chink can be a narrow opening, crack, etc. but nobody ever uses the term…“oh you have a chink in your drywall”…it’s not common.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
True
Look, I don’t think this dude meant it (Chink) that way at all. However, if it was part of a the copy that was laid out by someone else, it should have been scrubbed
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I would be glad to
If only ESPN knew what they were missing in not hiriing me 20 years ago when I applied…
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I just want Carmelo Anthony to come back
him to hog the ball for 48 minutes and have an ESPN anchor say “he was being very niggardly with the ball”.
See how that flies
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions
lol that would be asking for it....
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This made me bust out laughing.
by emperorj on Feb 20, 2012 12:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cory - you get it.
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People will complain about anything.
I didn’t even know “chink” was a word that was frowned upon.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
ignorane is not an excuse
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
or typos
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
It's not ignorance
I’ve literally never heard anyone even use the word in Aus.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
thats the point
that’s what ignorance is. you didn’t know. not knowing is not an excuse, especially for someone living here working in the field of broadasting
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
that's not ignorance
not being privy to a stupid insult is not ignorance.
Not knowing who the president of your country is, is ignorance for example.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
whatever we're hair splitting this
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
you didn't know "chink" was frowned upon?? where the fuck do you live?
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
Australia
We’re not fat and racist over here.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
lol.
As a avid online gamer, it’s amazing how many times I’ve been insulted with a term like Seppo when it has came out that I’m American. Technically not racist, but you guys can be just as bad as the rest of the world when it all comes down.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah when we get going we can be pretty bad
But you won’t find a more welcoming western nation than Australia anywhere in the world.
Also i’ve never heard Seppo? lol
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
From my understanding, it’s a bit of rhyming slang for septic tank. Septic Tank = Yank = Americans are full of shit.
It makes me laugh since one of my best friends is from Australia and calls me that jokingly, but it’s amazing how many times it has been whipped out as a insult as well seeing as how I typically play on Oceanic servers due to my schedule here.
by Empty Thoughts on Feb 20, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
I remember when I was taking dive classes in Harvey Bay
and the dive instructor was an overweight middle-aged white guy who out of nowhere started rambling on about the Abos and them being subhuman.
Trust me, you don’t have any claim to not being fat and not being racist
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 21, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Racial stereotypes suck. Time to go water my Obama chia pet
Sarcasm is angers ugly cousin
by jakescissorhands on Feb 20, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions
that is retarded
chink in the armor is a commonly used phrase
precisely
it’s things like this mans suspension that allows racism to continue
by steady2wheels on Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ummm no. racism exists because of people's hate
not political correctness.
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No
It exists because of hate and political correctness. If people weren’t so sensative then 90% of the things people call racist would just be ignored. One of the reasons race is still a big issue is because every little situation (like this one) is magnified by the media and that just causes more hate between the races
"I've visited all 57 states"
lol
and the socio economic consequences of decades of oppression and legalized discrimination have nothing to do with the continued existence of racism? if people didn’t get offended when a white person says the n word then racism would end? ….lol dreams are nice
"i don't think people change, change requires re-wiring and thats a lot to go through, i think they adjust and learn a better way of dealing with themselves and others ... they don't really change, they do selfless things to conform to an extent to the expectations of the ones they want in their lives ..." -Dis Vincent
by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No I agree with you
It does have a lot to do with hate, but the media does make it worse is all I am trying to say.
We will never get rid of all the hate in this world, but it would be nice if the media didnt twist every little story to increase the hate
"I've visited all 57 states"
agreed
that was the point i would like to make if i was as articulate as you
by steady2wheels on Feb 20, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
so are a lot of words
you still don’t use them in public conversation
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Why not?
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 20, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
inappropriate setting
There are tons of jobs that require you not to curse for example. What’s OK for your living room amongst friends isn’t OK as the representative of a news magazine. You don’t say bitch when describing a female dog. You don’t say faggot when talking about cigarettes (maybe you do in the UK still, dunno). You don’t say ass when talking about a donkey.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't realize "chink in the armor" was considered cursing where you live.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 20, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Chinatown is about 2 miles from me
Guaranteed if I went around yelling chink, I’d be in some shit
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Next time you come to my neighborhood don't ask for any crackers. We'll glass you.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 20, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Haha! Now that's funny.
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Yes some commonly used phrases are inappropriate
But you cant honestly think “chink in the armor” is a racist remark
"I've visited all 57 states"
its highly insensitive
probably not malicious in Bretos’ case, but definitely stupid
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Shuttup gump, it's not highly insensitive.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Its not at all
The fact that he is being suspended for this is stupid. The fact that the media takes every word people speak and twists it to create a race controversy is stupid. This discussion should not be taking place and he should not have been suspended. Simple as that if you disagree you are way to sensative
"I've visited all 57 states"
It's really simple
don’t use a derogatory term, even in passing, when talking about a person of the race/creed/religion/etc where that’s applicable and derogatory towards.
This isn’t some PC nonsense, it’s acceptable language.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
It is not derogatory in all uses
“Chink in the armor” is not derogatory. “Lin is a chink” is very derogatory and he should have been suspended if he said anything along those lines
"I've visited all 57 states"
no he'd get canned for that
as it is, it’s a stupid phrasing of the word.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
a stupid phrasing of the word.
That has been around longer than the derogatory. Eurpoeans were still calling the Far East the Orient and there was no country called “China”.
I would really like to hear whaty Lin has to say about this…
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who cares that the verbs been around longer than the noun?
don’t use it.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
pfft
Fuck that I’m takin it back. if “Chink in the armor” has suddenly become racist I’m takin it back.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I do not take orders from you.
It has been commonplace to use for 500 years. I will use it whenever I see fit. I would completely sue the shit out of anyone that decided to suspend me for it and have the ACLU up in arms over a phrase that has zero racila connotation uless you are completely looking for it.
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and (according to miriam webster)
chink has been used as derogatory for 130+ years. AKA all of our lifetimes, our parents lifetimes, and our grandparents lifetimes.
The ACLU would laugh at you
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
when did 130 > 500??
and when did “chink in the armor” become a racial term that is derogatory to people of Chinese descent?
because remember, we are talking about a phrase.
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when does age have fuck all to do with anything?
niggardly’s been around centuries as well, and again, according to MW predated n*******, it still doesn’t get used. How hard is this to comprehend? Age has nothing to do with any of this, you’re arguing apples and grapefruits
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
you are missing the point
and are part of the problem at this point.
You want their to be a negatvie conotation, so there is one. Even when the circumstances dictate that there was none.
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Except there were
whether it was intentional or not, it’s simply a poor choice of words. Sometimes that shit gets you in trouble, whether you meant to be mean or not
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
How far would we go with that?
There are hundreds of words that have multiple meanings. While I agree that using the term “Chink” when intended to be offensive, is not cool, the other use of the word should not be scrubbed from the English language.
Seriously, if we took things this far, there’s a bunch of words that would no longer be usable because they have a possible alternative offensive meaning?
Words like:
Fat
Black
White
Mexican
Cracker
Chocolate
Yellow
Kalib Starnes
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Jeremy Lin Loves Yellow Crackers
suspended
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by letter19 on Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Blah
It really bothers me that someone can lose their job over that. Especially when it’s obviously not intentional. If he went on some racist rant I could understand. Or if he said “Lin is a chink.” Then I could understand that too.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions
he didn't lose his job
He was just suspended for 30 days…a glorified “time out and think about what you did.” he’ll be fine since worse people have done worse things and survived. It was a live gaffe, and these things happen.
Federico getting heat for saying the same thing is a little diff since in his case, it was an article that was thought out and no one thought that “CHINK IN THE ARMOR” next to a Chinese person would be misinterpreted. In that instance, it was a matter of bold inference and a bit worse then some passing, throwaway comment.
by bustachong on Feb 20, 2012 12:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
the question is did he say it intentionally because of Lin's Taiwanese origin??
If he did, he should get fired, no question.
But since it can’t be proven, he’s ok. Like you said, he didn’t go on a racist rant. My personal opinion…he was trying to be cheeky and knew what he was saying.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
Or he just looks at people as people and the thought that his statement could've been taken the way it was never entered his mind to begin with
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Haha! Awesome...
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like I said, we dont know if it was intentional.
I remember after watching Akiyama-Belcher I posted something on here “chink in the armor” and someone replied “I see what you did there, LOL”…but I didn’t even notice it.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
i am not racist..
i will however drop an inappropriate joke..because..well…i like to be a shit disturber..
what do you call a fat asian…a chunk.. see.. i should be fired!
Sarah,
you know we all love you, but just like Nick Diaz, the rules apply to you as well. Here is your sig.
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but sarah, you're not a sports broadcaster for ESPN.
Get it?
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You also can't compare that joke to what the reporter said
AT ALL
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
right.
I wasn’t. I was just sayin it depends on what your line of work is.
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Rodger that
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
lol mama jokes? in 2012
you can do better than this pimp, but at least you are amusing
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by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think you are projecting...when did your uncle start touching you?
why didn’t you tell the social worker? and I know your uncle wasn’t the only one … you never walked straight after “special” Sunday mass no matter what happened to you I just want you to know that you don’t have to hate yourself, you are a victim.
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by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Honestly, I can't believe anyone would be suspended over this
I sincerely doubt this was done intentionally.
Agreed.
The dude’s wife is Asian for crying out loud. “Chink in the armor” is a legitimate oft-used phrase that has nothing to do with racial slurs.
P.S. I’m a minority who has experienced his fair share of racism, but this is ridiculous.
again, if it was actual racism
I’d say he should be fired. I don’t think too many people are calling the guy a racist. That said he used a poorly-worded phrase at the same time some guy on the site used it in blatant thought-out ignorance
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
fair enough
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
I think we are all overblowing this thing way too much
Assuming that the guy truly didn’t meant to use the term in an offensive way, it’s just a public perception issue. And, I’m not sure if would be as big an issue, had they just let it go, or make simple statement clarifying that no offense was intended.
Attaching the term “racist” to this scenario is a bit hyperbolic in my opinion. I’m not suggesting that people should be flippant in their use of language, I get that, but this is not “racism”.
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he should have been fired
He should have been fired. Great article here on Lin and why ESPN and others doubt him since he is Asian.
http://dwizzlesworld.blogspot.com/2012/02/fans-and-media-doubt-jeremy-lin-because.html
Bravo to ESPN for doing something right for once
His wife is Asian? That means he is sleeping on the couch for the next 30 days too
He insulted his wife too.
That’s like saying I have a white friend so I can’t have beaten up a White guy in the street or I don’t hire a black man for a job but i’m not racist because I have a black neighbor.
gtfo of here with this garbage
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
but, but my gardener is Hispanic...
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dude is
married to an asian woman with an asian child doubt he is racist lol
he used a phrase that has been used for years
Not first time ESPN used the slur - check it out
http://dwizzlesworld.blogspot.com/2008/08/another-racist-slur-on-espn.html
coincidence or not? They used that in China beijing olypmpics in 2008!
I think at worst this guy
is guilty of a boneheaded word selection and the incorrect moment. Should have went with “holes in his game”.
That's just ridiculous
I know it is seen as a racist word, but it’s been a perfectly PC word for even longer, and it’s not like his usage of it was completely random; people use it ALL the time. Hell, I even use it when referring to a weakness in someone’s game. It’s such a commonly used term that not everyone can turn it off 100% of the time in the (rare, for basketball) occurrence they’re talking about an Asian player. He could have chosen better terminology, but he obviously didn’t mean anything by it, so hopefully he doesn’t take too much flack for it.
He's a writer... his wife is asian...
Cute or accident… that’s what editing is for… it would be like
Lin fails on slant eyes return to form next week… “oops forgot a comma”
I mean he’s a writer!!
by PorkchopSandwich on Feb 20, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions
Chink is the Asia. Equivalent of Nigger or wetback
So yes, it was in bad taste.
Do I believe the guy is racist? I don’t know.
Do I believe he used the word chink strategically because it was in reference to an Asian player? Yes.
I read basketball articles all the time. I’m a diehard Laker fan. Chink in the armor is not a phrase you ever hear.
This was definitely a pun, but a horrible one considering chink is the Asian equivalent of Nigger.
There’s actually a word called niggardly. It means stingy. Yes, it’s a word, but can you imagine if a black ppoint guard played selfish, didn’t share the ball, and thus an article read, “Russell Westbrook plays niggardly and loses it for OKC”
by War Forrest on Feb 20, 2012 4:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We discussed the whole niggardly word and why the comparison simply isn’t applicable. You HAVE to take in account the commonality and acceptance from society/culture, and, if you do, it takes not a simple rice patty farmer to realize they’re not comparable.
And sorry to burs your bubble, but “chink in the armor” is a wildly common phrase dating back much before the derogatory usage of the word “chink.” Keep in mind the way it was used in the phrase is ENTIRELY different, both in connotation and definition, to the derogatory meaning/usage.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
As bad as this thread is
BE’s is MUCH worse.
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by *Californication* on Feb 20, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions
What about BE isn't worse? I'd glass every one of those fuggers.
"I swear to God, David. I'm going to fucking shoot you. I'm going to shoot you. I'm going to shoot David Haye. Listen, I'm going to physically shoot David Haye. He fucking glassed me. He glassed me. He glassed me. I'm not having it.
If David don't fight me, Adam, I'm telling you God honest truth. I'm going to physically, yeah, burn him. So you tell him I say that. His entourage ain't got nothing on my entourage."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Feb 20, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
and by worse
you mean everyone there actually gets it and can understand why it was bad.
uh huh
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 20, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
By worse meaning they don't understand that this should be a non-issue
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 21, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Except it is one
one that’s now over and done with. Bretos is suspended, editor is canned. You don’t say lines like chink in the armor in reference to an asian dude. You don’t talk about plugging the dyke when a lesbian is involved. Don’t make a cracker joke with a white guy.
Not in the public sphere when you’re the face and spokesperson for a gigantic company. Welcome to real life.
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 21, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I guess we all found th chink in Max Breto's armor.
haha
Seriously though, the guy is a douche.
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i said this last week at the chinese restaurant...
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
fact
so if his wife was black and he said kobe really took that beating like a slave, it would be okay? shut up, he repeated something that had already been criticized earlier in the day and had gotten one retard fired. the fact that there are so many retards in this country doesn’t excuse his douchy comment. fuck anyone who tries to rationalize this fucktard moment by stating that there are other fucktards out there. fuck the white trash that want this to be okay. and yes, you’re white. never experienced true racism and the only exceptions to that are minorities who are too scared to stand up for right. cowards.
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