UFC on FOX 3 news: Pat Barry vs Lavar Johnson fight booked for May 5, Diaz vs Miller now five round main event
by Geno Mrosko on Feb 2, 2012 1:52 AM EST
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The UFC on Fox 3 fight card, which is booked to go down this coming May 5, 2012, in East Rutherford, New Jersey, is quickly shaping up. And there's a trend making itself quite clear.
The promotion today announced that the previously scheduled bout pitting lightweight bangers Nate Diaz vs. Jim Miller will now serve as the five-round main event of the evening. While the fight has yet to be officially declared a title eliminator, it would seem to make the most sense.
Additionally, a heavyweight scrap was booked pitting the heavy-handed kickboxer, Pat Barry, against Strikeforce import Lavar Johnson. Both men are coming off crushing knockout victories, Barry at UFC on FX 1 this past Jan. 20 and Johnson at the UFC on Fox 2 event on Jan. 28.
So we've now got two bouts confirmed for the main card that featuring competitors who generally go out of their way to put on a show for the fans.
The three FOX fight cards will have run the gamut of match-ups. The first event featured a heavyweight championship fight, the second saw safer match-making that led to three relatively boring decisions and now they're delivering fights that promise to be barnburners.
Calculated or just a coincidence?
Here's how the UFC on FOX 3 fight card looks right now:
Main event:
155 lbs.: Nate Diaz vs. Jim Miller
Main card:
265 lbs.: Pat Barry vs. Lavar Johnson
Preliminary card:
155 lbs.: Anthony Ferguson vs. Dennis Hallman
125 lbs.: John Dodson vs. Darren Uyenoyama
Maniacs, how do you feel about the way this event is shaping up? And what should the third and final FOX fight be?
Let's get your fantasy bookings in the comments section below.
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Feb 2, 2012 1:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
daddy rikey .. finally a fox event that will deliver …
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2 week sig beat goldmouth/evans nightmare/davis
Hell yes! I was campaigning for this right after the Lavar fight! Yes!!!
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
i remember you saying you wanted this booked.
you work for zuffa now?
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by stinky~fingers on Feb 2, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
Verified and stinkified. I called that shit. I should work for zuffa.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
Carwin would really hurt a guy like Lavar. It would be the perfect match up for him.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
KO within 2 minutes imo.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think so.
Carwin nearly got KO’d by Gonzaga.
Shane earned himself a lot of KO’s.. mostly over guys thatcan’t strike worth a crap. Way overhyped imo.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
I don't see Lavar getting out of the way of those. He isn't quick on the feet and he dosn't have any head movement. He is perfect for Carwin.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:44 AM EST up reply actions
They'd punch each other at the same time...neither are quick...neither have head movement
Both are old…both are big…both will gas
seriously? He smashed mir who is so much faster than Lavar. ko 1:47 all day.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:49 AM EST up reply actions
I'd take Carwin
but Lavar has more power than all of Carwin’s opponents.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
and still less than 1/2 the power of carwin.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
JDS?
everything is an act......... T.N.Crew Bronx 13 1/2 12 juror's ,1 judge = 1/2 a chance
by biggant on Feb 2, 2012 8:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The myth of Carwin will be exposed soon enough
Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy…he’s a killer…but he’s not a world class fighter by any means
He got put out by Nog on the feet
That should tell you about speed.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Nog is fast?
Come on man, why paint this picture of Mir that isn’t accurate…he’s durable, he’s experienced, he’s got great technique…but he isn’t quick!
That's what i'm saying..
Nog isn’t that fast. He’s old and slow.
He has improved striking though.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Lol I was referring to Mir
But I guess it applies to Nog just the same
by Starr788 on Feb 2, 2012 3:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
mir is crap. barry would have a good shot at beating him.
why are ppl talking about carwin? is he ever going to fight again, if he does he won’t be the same he’s getting older and injuries on an old man is career ending.
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mir would take barry out quickly.
thats why franks top tier and pats mid tier(at best)..
no way in hell that could be competitive.. Barry sucks balls on the ground and ANYONE can take him down easily, so i dont see a jj ace like mir not being able to take him out..
id be pissed if that matchup got made to be honest.
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by stinky~fingers on Feb 2, 2012 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
he would win with whatever sub he wanted..
barry fucking kimbo-sucks on the ground.
mir could pull off a gogo..
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by stinky~fingers on Feb 2, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
Lol
So much this
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Feb 2, 2012 3:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haha cause Frank's takedowns are so awesome...
Not saying Barry would beat him…I just don’t think there is as big a gap with some of these HWs as people think…and styles make fights…but yeah I’d be betting on Frank to win but not at all be surprised if Barry finished him on the feet
And why is Frank such a big deal (even though I like him)? Is it because he beat Kongo or because he beat a 1-0 Lesnar?
by Starr788 on Feb 2, 2012 3:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
anyone can take barry down..
and frank just broke my homie nogs arm.. fuck kongo and lesnar…
i have always been a fan of mir anyways.. dudes legit.. most under rated HW in the history of mma.
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by stinky~fingers on Feb 2, 2012 3:25 AM EST up reply actions
That's because he refuses to use smart game planning, Stink. He would be top 3 every year if he learned how to wrestle at a decent level.
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by OJR on Feb 2, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
Hasnt Barry been taken down only once???
Sig bets with umabig:
Condit beats Diaz on Feb. 4, 2 weeks
Akiyama beats Shields on Feb. 26, 2 week
by enzo-enormous on Feb 2, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Mir is not crap
Stop being dumb
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by wooly shambler on Feb 2, 2012 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i hate when dudes act like mir sucks .. yes he got beat by lesnar but he destroyed big nob the first time , murdered kongo,beat cro cop and big country .. show the man some love folks .
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It's his arrogance
Coupled with the fact that he’s been KO’d so many times.
I don’t dislike him but i can see where people have an issue with him.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
i would rather see carwin vs barry to be honest …
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Huh?
Pat deserves a better fight than Lavar…and Lavar deserves a better fight than Pat…
Don’t know how much I like this…but I got Pat in this one
How does that make sense?
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
Both are coming off exciting finishes...
But still…Lavar isn’t the fight that gets Barry over the hump…nor is Barry the fight that gets Lavar over the hump…they’re basically fighting to stay at the bottom tier
dude they are both coming off of big wins, winner is 100% mid tier.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
They are already mid-tier. A win for either one of them takes them nowhere "rankings wise." I agree with Starr. Exciting match up, though!
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by OJR on Feb 2, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
Well this fight will see what both guys really deserve.
Both are coming off of wins so it makes sense. Stoked for Diaz vs Miller gonna be a war, Diaz ftw
by KO's and Knee's on Feb 2, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Diaz ftw
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
diaz will win via 5th round submission.
watch
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by stinky~fingers on Feb 2, 2012 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
i've got $150 on diaz!
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
good man...
it’s not smart to bet against the 209 these days..
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by stinky~fingers on Feb 2, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
is gonba be a really really nice fight .. jim has been subn people .. diaz has amazing sub defense … diaz boxing is good …
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2 week sig beat goldmouth/evans nightmare/davis
Because Pat is on a tear..
This matchup makes perfect sense.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
It's a fight put together because fans like to see dudes stand in front of each other and swing til one falls
That’s why it’s on Fox
dude, it's heavy weight. They're gonna swing.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
That's the problem
These match ups only feed into that generalization…I don’t want to see big guys who can just swing…I want to see good technical match ups, regardless of if it’s two HWs or not…that’s why Pride HWs were so great when that organization was at it’s peak…these days there are only a few HWs with good technique…and they’re hardly ever matched…
A good fight would have been Barry vs Del Rosario….tell me that’s not sexy….
I won't object to more technique. But I'm a suck for the heavyweight ko's.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
Dammit Starr......I thought you were a pretty cool toughy mctougherson
then you had to go and say Pride HWs were in any form or fashion better than the UFC’s……Shane Carwin would have won the HW GP no problem. I would say Lavar Johnson and Pat Barry could have come close, probably falling short to Josh Barnett and Nog(maybe).
Don't make me swing on you bro
Carwin can definitely be competitive in the GP for Pride. Win it, though? I doubt it. Not with K, Big Nog, CC, Fedor or Barnett in the mix. It would have to be a golden trail of gigantic upsets - and Carwin does not have the skill set to pull that off
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by OJR on Feb 2, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
He flattens Nog, CC, and Fedor in the first round.
Barnett would be a little tricky, but I think Carwin matches up well against him. I don’t see any of them being able to take Carwin down. He was able to stop all of Lesnar’s shots until he gassed, and I believe Lesnar has a much more powerful shot than these guys. Nog is the only one who may match up well with Carwin on the feet. He has some alright movement and good crisp boxing. CC gets flattened as soon as Carwin cuts off the ring and finds his chin once. Greg Jackson would have Carwin nice and prepared for Fedor’s overhand right. Easy fights for Carwin.
Don't make me swing on you bro
I didn't even bother reading the rest
your ridiculous subject spoiled it.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
That's a rational and fair way to go about things.
No one has a good fucking excuse for Fedor. The dude isn’t that good. His career is a farse. He isn’t out of his prime, he isn’t all beat up from wars…..he just isn’t a top ten fighter. Nog barely makes top ten and Cro Cop(poor guy) either A. Lost his killer instinct…..yea right. or B. Started fighting people who could move around and not get blasted by a head kick……Cro Cop puzzle solved there.
Don't make me swing on you bro
He flattens Nog, CC, and Fedor in the first round.
A heavy handed Carwin would have to hope that all 3 of these HW’s in their prime would just stand in front of him in order for this to happen.
Based on the fights that I have seen it is possible but highly unlikely.
Carwin does not have the quick draw fists or lateral movement to catch CC or Nog. Fedor would have the style to match up and make your prediction more of a possibility. Barnett would sub Carwin after body locking him and tripping him.
You have faith in Carwin that might be a tad unrealistic, IMO.
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by OJR on Feb 2, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
I know MMA math is terrible......
BUT……Frank Mir= 2 brutal stoppages over Nog, 1 boring yet brutal stoppage over Cro Cop.
Shane Carwin= A one sided pounding of Frank Mir
But that is elementary logic to picking fights. Carwin has the wrestling to take Cro Cop down if he had to, especially in a cage. I still see him finding CC’s chin. Nog would not be able to get Carwin down to save his life, so that one would be a pretty good stand up battle.
Don't make me swing on you bro
Yeah Mir gets them when they're all old and worn out
with a tonne of injuries and Kendall Grove chins.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
i see what your saying privatebox … but your going up agaisnt die hard pride guys and they love them some fedor ..
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2 week sig beat goldmouth/evans nightmare/davis
but your going up agaisnt die hard MMA fans pride guys and they love them some knowledge fedor ..
Fixed.
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by OJR on Feb 2, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
you guys do know carwin is a really good wrestler right ? hes not just a puncher.. when he beat mir .. mir was rolling along , he was close to being champ most refs would of stoped the fight with him and lesnar … i think carwin in his prime would beat a in their prime big nog,barnett,fedor,reem, i think cro crop would of gave him a hard time but i think he beats the other guys not easily .. you guys have to remember he hudge hands , hudge power ..and a great wrestlig base .. im not saying hes the best overall fighter .. but the guy was good .. i think age is actually cathing up to him more then anything i mean shit hes older then fedor …
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2 week sig beat goldmouth/evans nightmare/davis
You guys also need to remember that Gonzaga almost put Carwin on his ass. You guys also need to remember that Carwin can only go 1 round without his body going numb, due to complete lack of cardio. Aldo note that Carwins ‘best’ win is Mir.
He has done NOTHING for anyone to think he would take the very best heavyweights in their prime.
Bobby Southworth
You also forget how bad Brett Rogers was fucking
up ol fat boy before that hail mary haymaker…..and Gonzaga is 100 times the fighter Rogers is. Carwin used wrestling technique to get back to his feet, then in an amazing display of raw power, puts Gonzaga to sleep with a half loaded punch…….CARWIN ROLLS FEDOR
Don't make me swing on you bro
Not really.
Fedor won the first round and then he KO’d Rogers in the second.
You can hate on Rogers but he did better against Overeem than Brock did.. and they both got destroyed. (Here’s to me hoping you’re a Brock fan lol)
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Well you are in a small group of people. You realize you can like a slugfest and still be a sophisticated MMA fan. You don’t have to pick one style of fight to like.
Argument that only a few HWs have good technique is horse dookie.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
I call shenanigans,
what authority do you have to post a +1,000,000?
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, my apologies...
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:27 AM EST up reply actions
No need to apologize my friend,
but heed this warning. If you, Drew, ever dare to question my authority again, the consequences shall be severe.
by Tommy Shenanigans on Feb 2, 2012 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
This is starting to sound like fighting words?
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
I have no quarrels with you, Sir Drew
however, the Oracle sees in you a thirst for blood and savagery. The Oracle wishes to see you guided down the right path towards your ultimate destiny
by Tommy Shenanigans on Feb 2, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
lol, i'll go with that.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
is the oracle a eunich ?
You are banned from Bloody Elbow.
You can browse the blog, but you can't participate.
Insulting staff and using the word "***" are both completely inappropriate. So long.
by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
I cannot decipher your alien lingo my friend
by Tommy Shenanigans on Feb 2, 2012 2:44 AM EST up reply actions
don't talk to randall about aliens.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions
calm down tito ortiz .. the people did not elect you .. lol jk
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2 week sig beat goldmouth/evans nightmare/davis
Johnson's gonna get brutalized
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
Have any of you seen lavar fight before his last? He isn’t that great he kind of sucks and I don’t know how he got into the ufc when he was coming off two straight loses in strikeforce. I’m telling you put a technical guy in front of him and he looks novice at best. I’m taking pat in this one
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yep, he didn't look too technical vs. Beltran, showed decent power
Barry is way more technical and has more power
i saw him fight del rosario,,, he looked novice on the ground... But pats not much of the takedown artist,, so he stands a chance.
this is a good fight imo… but ill take pat as well!
Did you see him fight that Jordan guy? It was after the rosario fight. Jordan owned him and i believe Jordan was a last minute opponent. That Jordan guy deserves to be in the ufc more than Johnson. I’m not a Johnson hater I know i sound like one but I’m just stating facts here. Lavar isn’t that good
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh i agree he isnt that good and was lucky to draw a dream matchup as far as beltran gos..
I have not seen that fight you are referring to though…
You should check it out its a pretty good fight but Lavar is the one getting owned. When i heard he was fighting beltran I was thinking is this the same Lavar Johnson? So i looked it up to see if it was the same fighter I have seen and sure enough it was. I hope pat takes this serious and owned this dude
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pat should win this,,, but i will say he did looked to have a good jab or maybe it was just joeys inability to move his head.
Either it will be exciting,, thats one thing i will say for Pat he is entertaining.
Beltran us a slugger he doesn’t use head movement Lavar just had the power to ko him
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he is a fighter... and to be the best fight beltran can be he might want to start moving his head!
Or his feet..one or the other
Haha yea it was sad to seem him get knocked out. Beltran is the kinda dude that won’t change much and just stick to what he does
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well he is in the process of dropping a weight class.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yup I agree. Like I said beltran won’t change his style he will always stand there and slug it out
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he will be a different fighter @ 205, probably not succesful, but he is changing.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:35 AM EST up reply actions
will have to agree to disagree,,, in my eyes he doesn't have a base in any aspect.
of MMA that would improve by dropping weight he would just become slower and an easier target than he already is.
He's got heart, thats always something.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
I think you are misunderstanding me. I don’t think beltran sucks I love watching his fights but no matter what weight the guy will always be a slugger
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
beltran has been cut btw
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 2, 2012 5:47 AM EST up reply actions
I’m saying no matter what weight he will always be the same fighter. At 205 he won’t suddenly get more technical. The guy us a natural slugger and always will be
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m an optimist, he’s making a huge change, maybe he makes another, but you’re right, I wouldn’t bet on it.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:42 AM EST up reply actions
But I agree we can only assume but assumptions don’t mean shit till we see what happens
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'm not saying he'll find success,
but dropping a weight class is the opposite of what zeso said.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
Oh but I’m not talking about dropping a weight class I’m saying no matter what weight or opponent he won’t change his style. Beltran at 205 won’t be any different than him at heavyweight. His body may change but no matter what he does he will always slug it out
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Keep in mind, dropping a weight class is one thing, but he's really droppin 3-4 classes considering it's 205.
His style will have to change, i’m not saying he wont slug, but he’s dieting, dropping a lot of fat, not muscle mass. He’ll be faster and anyone can evolve.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
True I agree people can evolve their game but i just don’t see HIM being a guy that does but who knows maybe slugging it out with the lhw division of whatever promotion he goes to won’t be a bad thing
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
get him in Bellator.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe bellator but i think he shouldnt jump into anywhere too quick he should drop in weight and train at that weight for awhile and then look to get a fight. Atleast that’s what i would do
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought Jordan signed with the ufc a few weeks back
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by biggant on Feb 2, 2012 8:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The UFC's HW division was always inferior to that of SF's.
I think they are just looking for an exciting injection of strikers in the HW division.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Not sure the UFC HW div. was inferior but I would say SF was on par. That is why the UFC bought them. Some good fights coming up. I almost want to just see the rest of the SF HWs come over to the UFC now. Cormier’s hand is taking forever.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
He should be better soon.
I want to see that fight.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
The UFC’s HW division was always inferior to that of SF’s. I think they are just looking for an exciting injection of strikers in the HW division.
“..That man has to be eliminated.” – Fedor Emelianenko
by tkotom on Feb 1, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
AGAIN WITH THIS DUDE … so if jds beats reem … who was strikeforces best heavywieght are you still gonna be saying this .. jds,cain,big nog,couture,mir,carwin,big country,lesnar,gonzaga,kongo,cro cop is wayyyyy better then
reem,barnett,cormier (who was in bellator until early 2011),big foot(barely beat andrei,lost to werdum,crushed fedor, and lost to comeir,werdum (crushed by a rookie first fight jds)barely got past big foot,pulled a sub out of his ass against a fading fedor,and whiped his ass with the cage floot agasint reem) …
dont get me wrong i like overeem .. but it remains to be seen if he can beat a top guy .i.e. ufc’s heavy weight division has been the best since 09 …
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I'm not saying they're better than all of them 1 v 1... Merely as a whole.
Strikeforce
Rogers
Fedor
Reem
Barnett
Bigfoot
Werdum
Cormier
Arlovski
Khari
vs
UFC
Carwin
Brock
JDS
Cain
Mitrione
Struve
Nelson
Mir
Kongo
To be honest i’d take the SF guys over the UFC div but that’s just me.
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I saw a lot of his challengers fights and I agree with your assesment.
But he looked a lot bigger. Barry destroys him.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
Well...he was coming off 2 losses
1 to a guy who could easily become a top UFC HW in Del Rosario and 2 to a guy who I know nothing about in Shawn Jordan…
But he smashed the ish out of Beltran, something that even praised UFC HW Matt Mitrione…so I guess he belongs
Beltran was a perfect stylistic match up for lavar
much smaller, too hittable, and didn’t have the tools to get the fight to the ground.
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
pat barry is a slightly better version of Beltran
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
sig bet
I got Barry.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
ok if i'm not banned for my nsfl link that i posted a disclaimer on
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:32 AM EST up reply actions
alright, one week. sig only, no gay. agreed?
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:33 AM EST up reply actions
yah
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:33 AM EST up reply actions
this won't interfere with my bones vs rashad bet will it ?
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
yes
you’ll need to welsh on that one, mine is like a trump card.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 2, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
hmmmmm
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
Not slightly
MUCH better
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
you guys are right
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
Shawn Jordan is a beast you will be seeing him fight oli Johnson on ufc on fx 2. Jordan has more potential than Lavar
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
did jordan already beat lavar ?
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yes he subbed him. Keep in mind Lavar threw bombs on Jordan and he still pulled it out. Jordan will be a decent force in the ufc I just don’t see Lavar being all that great but who knows. But most if Lavar losses are by sub
by zesotheclown on Feb 2, 2012 2:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What the hell ??
bloody queef bubble
by wooly shambler on Feb 2, 2012 2:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hell Yeahh!
This is what the UFC needs to show to the masses. Pat Barry is an exciting fighter and a fan favorite. Guarantee Dana is gonna try to get him to go for a headkick KO for a huge bonus.
by Tommy Shenanigans on Feb 2, 2012 2:05 AM EST reply actions
yes!!!
they should throw Aldo and KZ in the main event too for violence
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that would be a great choice
I think the zombie has a little more to prove before he gets his shot though
by Tommy Shenanigans on Feb 2, 2012 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
This is going to be a sick fight.
Stand up bangin.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Its funny how they keep giving barry great matchups..
imo pat might be the most overated fighter in the UFC.
hahaha
That’s funny seeing how nobody thinks he’s that good ! Being a fan favorite and being highly rated are two different things .
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
Guess it depends how you look at it,,, And i always here high praise for him,,,, I think the UFC likes him as well.
They see potential that i dont see. Thats why they keep feeding him favorable matchups.
Jim is gonna be Nates toughest test in a while
tougher than Cowboy…
This, or Nick ’s fight this weekend could certainly be fight of the year!!
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Bad matchup for nate imo.. kind of feel this one has chance to be a let down if jim implements the right game plan.
Jim has the tool to to gray maynard him, or stun gun kim him. Barboza vs Diaz would have been an instant classic…. But im not complaining about this matchup cause its a beauty!
you mean a let down as in Nate may lose
or as in a boring fight, cause I think this has the potential to be a hell of a fight
by Tommy Shenanigans on Feb 2, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
Depends how the fight goes... either way ill be happy with either on winning..
I don’t see Jim winning this fight standing so in my opinion the only way he wins this fight which i think he can might not be that crowd pleasing is all im saying.
thats a good point
if he takes nate down, hopefully nate can go for some subs and keep it interesting
by Tommy Shenanigans on Feb 2, 2012 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
Right now no one imo could beat nate standing a 155,,,, Jim has been close and lost before... I see him winning this one by any means,
Even if it is staying in Nates guard or pressing him against the cage. en route to a boring decision.
Gray Maynard did nothing but win on points...and that was a 3 round fight
You can’t compare Stun Gun to Miller…two different styles of offense and one is a lot bigger than the other
And yea jim could implement the same style as kim.. Maybe not with the judo throws... But he can definately keep the fight close range and not let nate find his range.
Jim is a true MMA he can do it all
He can do it all...
But Kim vs Diaz is a completely different fight than Miller vs Diaz…for one Diaz was moving up in weight and fighting a guy who is naturally a stronger grappler than him…with Miller, the advantages aren’t as evident, you know this
I see what your saying but Jim is imposing as far as grappling goes,, but at the same time Nate is getting stronger..
I just dont see jim winning in an exciting fashion if he wins.
Get outta here...
You tried to make it seem like Gray was so imposing when he fought Diaz and he did something so clear and tactful to win the fight when in reality that fight could have gone either way….if not then, what is the tool to “Gray Maynard” him?
u responded to my comment... And don't go putting words in my mouth... I never once said Gray was so imposing..
I know that the gray fight was razor thin… My points i see Jim winning with the same tactic that gray used to get a win…. I dont find that to hard to understand.
I'm sorry...I just don't think squeaking out a decision reveals any tactic worth drawing from
Maybe if Maynard had convincingly beaten Diaz, then yeah we could say Miller should adopt that same strategy…Hendo baaaaaarely beat Shogun, and that fight was super exciting…yet still, no LHW with sense will say to themselves “let me fight Shogun the way Hendo did”
And I’m not putting words in your mouth…I can’t think of any other meaning for “Gray Maynard him”…my apologies if it only means squeak out a decision
by Starr788 on Feb 2, 2012 3:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
it also means impose your will on him,, keep the fight within close distance. Takedowns here and there...
Maynard was also gassed toward the end of that Diaz fight, which i dont see happening to jim. When was the last time Nate lost a decision that couldnt be argued as close? I cant think of one..
I don't think Gray took him down once.
Also, Nate definitively lost to Guida.
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
good call thanks for the help... Well then Jim should look to guida him..
And if i recall Gray definately took him down once!
Nope, not once.
Just re-watched it.
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
cool man.. yea i have never rewatched it,,, but it really makes you wonder how the hell he won a decision..
Eitherway thanks thats a very interesting!
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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 2, 2012 2:37 AM EST reply actions
Easy fight for Barry....
1st round KO. I like Larar and won money on him against the Mexicutioner (easy $$$$) but Barry has real stand-up and Larar is Taylor made for him. The Mexicutioner was a gift but he won’t get sloppy stand-up like that from Barry.
I have Barry in this. He has power
he has better technical ability and he’s much faster than Lavar or Beltran. It’s a good fight for Barry to keep building his confidence.
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