UFC 145: Rashad Evans calls Jon Jones a fake and a fraud, 'Bones' tries to keep it classy (Video)
by Thomas Myers on Feb 19, 2012 11:11 PM EST
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Is it April yet?
UFC 145 is more than two months away, but former training partners and bitter rivals who are set to headline the pay-per-view (PPV) event, Jon Jones vs. Rashad Evans, at the Philips Arena in Atlanta, Ga., on April 21, 2012, continue to verbally spar prior to the championship clash.
It apparently gets even more dicey when the pair have to share a stage.
This is one must-see exchange that "Suga" attempts to instigate throughout, while "Bones" attempts to remain cool and collected.
Call me crazy, but Evans' incessant poking, as well as admittedly having no respect for Jones as a person, has to be having some sort of impact, whether the Light Heavyweight champion wants to admit it or not. Or, perhaps, he just doesn't realize yet.
That will likely change, for better or worse, as fight night draws closer.
Check out part two of the heated exchange on the set of "SportsNite" after the jump:
For more on UFC 145: "Jones vs. Evans" and their volatile history be sure to hit up our complete event archive right here. Thanks to BloodyElbow.com for the assist.
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Jon Jones - The most underrated PERSONALITY in MMA
Dude is just a kid, and for the most part has handled himself pretty well but the trolls have to attack him over a couple of little mistakes all because they are upset he damn near fucking killed thier fantasy girlfriend Shogun.
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He's the Vanilla Ice of MMA
Such a fake
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
Why did people hate Tito Ortiz back in his early days??
Some people just didn’t like the attitude, same shit man. Some people don’t like JBJ, I know this is impossible for JBJ fans to understand but when most people watch MMA they like to choose someone to root for and they also like to root against others. That’s all based on personal bias and JBJ comes off as a douche to a lot of people in a lot of interviews. There’s no conspiracy going on against JBJ, the guy just isn’t that likeable outside the cage from a fans perspective.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
it seems like with jbj you either love him or hate him ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
by Nightmare83 on Feb 20, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
What about him isn't likeable? How specifically is he a douche?
I think this is what FaQ is getting at. Bones is a straight forward guy. People say that but they don’t say specifically what it is that led them to this conclusion. Take this situation for example. In this interview I think it is clear who the douche is, Rashad. Yet here I am defending Jones. I think he is what 99% would want in a real friend if you were to hang out with JBJ in real life. If we are talking about personality. I think many Mania fans just like to root for fighters that will fight the door-greeter at Walmart if they feel like they looked at them wrong. Guys like Diego from TUF or the Diaz brothers. Punks as I like to call them. People who you would hate in real life. If these guys weren’t fighting they would be thugs and criminals. To me I can’t stand people like that whether they are good fighters or not. And I don’t get it when a class act like Jones gets blasted. It’s kind of like the Tebow effect. Fans can’t seem to stand genuinely nice people. There is this jaded expectation that they must somehow be fake. As if Nick Diaz or his ilk are somehow more “real”. Because he is a “fighter.” Give me a break. I’ve seen the posts on Mania where people cry foul but if you watch the entire video of the interview he does not seem like a douche at all. It is easy to post one sentence of an interview on a blog and make it seem like a guy is talking crap, etc.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 20, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I've posted plenty of times, plenty of specific examples as to why I don't root for the guy
JBJ fans don’t get why ppl dislike him, the ppl that dislike him don’t understand how JBJ fans can’t see what they do. No point in going over specifics because you’ll interpret it differently or say it’s a non issue and that it’s blind hatred and blah blah blah. I have never seen a fighter who’s fans are so adament on other people “liking” him. It’s usually a debate on whether or not this guy is really, truley, a great fighter. But for some reason the JBJ fans want everybody to “like” the guy as well.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough ODamn.
I honestly don’t care that you don’t like him. I don’t expect you to care that I don’t like Nick Diaz. I was just trying to understand. It’s like Dennis Prager says: “I value understanding above agreement.” I figured maybe it was because of all the hype before he had proven himself and now even though he has proven himself that people are wanting to see him fall because they still have that bitter taste in their mouth. But the more interviews I watch where I come away saying thinking Jones is a nice kid and a stand-up guy and others say he is a douche because of the same interview, the more I am leaning towards his religion. I may be way off but it seems like the Tebow effect. He comes out and says he is a Christian and he makes a concerted effort to say the right things and be respectful and that burns people up. When push came to shove he helped to thwart a robbery. That shows character more than a few comments in an interview. Would Nick Diaz have helped a victim of a robbery on the streets of Stockton? Hey, I was one that doubted Bones. And I am not even really ready to call myself a fan. I just am trying to understand all this hate. I have been saying for a long time that most of the top LHW’s have the tools to beat Jones. The more I see him fight the more I wonder but I think Rashad can do it. I don’t know that he will but I think he can.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
It's comments like the following that get people
"We fought each other in practice. A finish has been possible several times, and it has always been me finishing him," Jones boasted. "I never did it out of respect that he was the elder of the school. It’s against protocol in a way. Some people would do it, but I believe in tradition."
“"He has a lot to study. I have a lot to study, but I get to study[ing] more in-depth," Jones declared. "He gets to study[ing] and gets a headache.”
“I’m a breath of fresh air that ‘Shogun’ Rua just can’t handle” – there was more to that one but that’s all I can remember right now. Anyway, it was some seriously vain shit.
Or the story, according to Evans, about when JBJ and he are at a Vegas night club and JBJ calls him over to tell him “I’m going to destroy you.” In some kind of intimidation attempt.
A lot of people didn’t like the cocky, toss Rampage over the shoulders after the bell rings thing. I think some people didn’t see why he dropped Machida like a bag of rocks when he said at the post fight presser that he knew the guy was out before he let go.
I could go on, but if you’re a JBJ fan then none of that means anything to you and you don’t see a problem with any of it. Agree to disagree I guess.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Also what bothers me
is that he never looks his opponents in they eyes. It’s either a super-egotistical (you’re not good enough to look at me) thing, or a discomfort thing. I’d lean towards the latter because of all his other awkward/weird tendencies, and when someone feels as almighty as Jones does, it doesn’t make sense to not be comfortable staring down an opponent. That’s fake shit, to me.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
Yea I don't know when he started doing that
But I really dislike the staredown thing. I remember A. Silva did that vs Chael, but it was obviously meant to be a disrespectful thing and that’s the only time he’s done that to my recollection. JBJ does it every fight, to every fighter. It just comes off as arrogant to me.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
anderson did it in rebuttal to sonnen doing it to him 1st
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by daniel worby on Feb 20, 2012 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In the vid he asks Rashad his opinion why he is fake
Then proceeds to talk over the top of him about how he is so humble. Being humble includes being able to accept others being critical about you, even if u dont agree. He seems unable to take any criticism or accept that he might not be perfect. Dont know why he thinks that is so important as a fighter but there it is.
I got nothin clever to say/
Bones is too sensitive, but I don't think he's a prick like Rashad
Jones is still growing into his own skin…still has some immaturity and insecurities to deal with. I don’t think he fully knows himself yet. But Rashad is a two-faced little bitch, every bit as insecure and immature (see his TUF spats with Page and his behaviour with Forrest in the cage.) but without the excuse of youth. If I thought he’d learn anything from it, I’d be rooting for Bones to knock his teeth in, but Machida already did that and Rashad is still the same a-hole he was before that fight.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
It's also him labeling himself humble
IMO a humble person doesn’t run around talking about how humble they are.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
+1
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
by Nightmare83 on Feb 20, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with that 100%
tryint to sell it to yourself as much as to others.
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How do you think Jones gets it done against Shad? How does Shad find a way to win?
Does anyone think Shad can land a big right hand? Can he take Jones down….and keep him there? Has Jones ever had anyone GnP him before? I don’t remember him ever really being on his back. I would imagine Shad has the tools and the right inside info to get him down.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
I think it's winnable for Rashad
He’s fast, good hand speed and he has the athletic ability to close that distance very quickly. If he picks his spots, gets in and gets out with his striking and sets up a few TD’s I can definatley see him winning this fight.
I think he should just look at the 1st rd of JBJ vs Machida, Lyoto wasn’t coming straight at him and he wasn’t running away from him, it was a more tactical, measured approach and JBJ had a little bit of trouble with that.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
SMH...
You guys are like whiny little bitches. This is the fight game not a fucking beauty pagent. He said this, he said that….Get over yourself. The same ass clowns that are saying he’s fake are the same people who do fake shit 24/7. Non of you idiots are perfect. Please get off your high horse.
there are about 50 other comments that you could have responded to here
and you choose one that is referencing the actual fight and not the drama?
Failure.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
You don't dislike any fighter?
And you don’t have favorite fighters that you root for during a fight?
Why don’t YOU get the fuck off your high horse cause you know you do the same shit depending on who the fighter is.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I think this will be Jones' toughest task.
It will be the greatest amount of skill/cardio/heart/hunger/health/diversity combined that he’ll face. I could see either fighter win by decision. I could see Jones winning by sub sometime after the first couple rounds. I could see Evans getting a TKO at any time. I really don’t see it ending any other way.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
I only see Shad winning via TKO after some GNP. Jones doesn’t sit in the pocket for very long and I don’t see Shad landing anything that could end the fight on the feet. Who knows though. What is the over under on Shad getting cut in this thing? Doesn’t everyone?
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
yeah,
that’s the kind of TKO I’m talking about. I didn’t mean a knockdown. I’m really not concerned with a cut, to be honest.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
well,
the best opportunity for elbows would occur while being on top of Evans. I really don’t see Rashad being in that position enough for elbows to be a problem.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
don't forget the clinch against the cage
I would be more surprised to see Shad on top of JBJ than vice versa.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
true, but
to be honest, I don’t see Jones “bullying” Evans very much. I think he’ll try to keep it on the feet with space and use his diverse striking. Just my thinking. I think that’s his best chance, especially in the 1st few rounds.
So for me, I think Shad has a better chance of being on top, but not by much.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
Shad will take him down
He has taken everyone down that he has tried to take down. Personally I want to see it also. I want to see Bones off his back.
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Rashad has the skill and ability to take jones down
But you make it seem like its guaranteed he will.
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by letter19 on Feb 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it is what we do here
Instead of using probablilities to say that “Shad has a greater than 50% chance of taking him down”, I say…“he will” since the probabilities say it is greater than not.
Besides, you said it yourself…I know the future. ;)
Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
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Yea..uhh
that was pretty gay!! Rashad “talked” smack if you will? That was so boring. “your fake”, no I am a christain..“your fake”..no im not..“your arrogant” ..no Im not!!
i dont even want to see this fight. I want jones to fight someone better than rashad. I see this as a boring fight
Who's better then shad that he hasn't fought then?
Maybe you should have joe Silvia’s job
Nick Diaz sucks balls , he can’t hang with the elite WW’s he only looks good against 2nd rate guys in SF
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by Kalejohncox on Feb 20, 2012 8:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jones reminds me of the type of "heels" who pretends to be a good guy but makes it obvious that they're lying which is what makes him get so much heat.
Now, count up your crimes!
So true
The man’s arrogance has him on cloud 9. I can’t wait until he falls back down. Please Rashad…….make it happen in this next fight!
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
I had no idea you knew him personally…….AMAZING!!! I’ve never seen so many people rid Evans cock. If Rashad would have NEVER said Jones was fake, no one would be calling him fake.
Just another JBJ fan that can't stand the fact that other MMA fans don't like his mancrush
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
It seems everyone who likes Jones cannot believe there are people that don’t. I can’t count the number of times I have seen people starting a debate with “you have no reason to dislike JBJ” or some variation, then asking for reasons why.
Hey OD? Why you no like brussel sprouts? “Cause they taste like shit”, nope, you don’t like them because you must be a fucking racist.
That is what the argument looks like in my head.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
+1
Pretty much agree, the debates are usually about whether or not a fighter deserves his ranking or whether or not his accomplishments are underrated/overrated but with JBJ it’s like “You don’t like him so you don’t root for him?!? WTF is wrong with you??”
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Feb 20, 2012 1:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can't wait to see Jones beat the fuck out of rashad
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
Can I pick your brain a little bit?
I don’t want to come off as close-minded and take issue with who you like, but can you explain why you like Jones? I mean, the only 2 reasons I can think of are if you know him personally (friend or relative) or if you just like greatness, regardless of character. Obviously, I can’t argue with the 1st reason, but the 2nd one comes off as kind of fairweather-fanish. I can appreciate greatness and enjoy watching it, while still being able to dislike and root against it. For example, let’s go over the current champs:
JDS: I like him. Seems like a very humble and good person.
Jon Jones: Can’t stand him. Seems like such a weird/awkard, arrogant, fake, douchebag.
A-Silva: Neutral. I don’t like or dislike him. He’s bothered me some, but nothing close to make me dislike him.
GSP: Really like him. See JDS
Condit: I like him. See JDS
Edgar: Somewhere between neutral and like. It’s obvious that his work ethic is sick. It also helps that he’s been facing a couple guys that I don’t care for at all (Penn & Maynard).
Aldo: Neutral. Nothing that’s swayed me in either direction.
Cruz: Don’t like him at all. Seems like such a douchey-ass dork.
I guess it’s just interesting that some people seem to pay no attention to character, or at least let skill vastly overshadow it. Just trying to understand where they’re coming from.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
If u could write posts without mentioning penn for once
People might take you serious one of these days…
Nick Diaz sucks balls , he can’t hang with the elite WW’s he only looks good against 2nd rate guys in SF
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by Kalejohncox on Feb 20, 2012 8:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
wow....
sorry that he was mentioned meaninglessly in a larger post. That’s why I love talking about him so much, too. His fans are the biggest butthurt bitches in the world. I love debating with them. Only a matter of time before they puss out and forfeit the debate……….just like the true bitch you……..I mean……they are. ;)
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
If you took anything away from our last Convo
It should have been the multiple times I stated I don’t care for bj penn in th least.
Nick Diaz sucks balls , he can’t hang with the elite WW’s he only looks good against 2nd rate guys in SF
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by Kalejohncox on Feb 20, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
sooooo how do you feel about bj penn?
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
by Nightmare83 on Feb 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
He's my fav fighter
And p4p greatest fighter ever in combat sports
Nick Diaz sucks balls , he can’t hang with the elite WW’s he only looks good against 2nd rate guys in SF
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also,
I couldn’t agree more with your Diaz sig. He’s nothing more than a gatekeeper. Nice…..at least we agree on something. ;)
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
bj fans , diaz fans , and fedor fans … oh and mousasi fans.. you dont want to get into scraps with them about their guys … also see diego haters …
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
by Nightmare83 on Feb 20, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
But Diego fans are the biggest homo take it up the butt scrubs of all
by HellaHectic on Feb 20, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
as a diego fan i can say that i dont take it up the butt .. and i understand he is a wierd dude and he is not an elite guy .. but the guy brings it almost every fight too bad he never got matched up with chris lytle..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
by Nightmare83 on Feb 20, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I don't like Jones
But I don’t dislike him, either. I can’t stand rashad. If Jones was fighting virtually anyone else I’d be rooting for that person
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
I see.....
I used to dislike Evans because of the cocky shit he pulled during matches, but it seems like he hasn’t done that stuff in awhile and based on everything else, I don’t mind him a bit. Actually going to be a huge fan of his for this next fight.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
Jon Jones was the greatest raw talent that MMA had ever seen 3 years ago.
He molded that into becomiing the champion in the marquee division of the marquee organization of MMA. He systematically destroyed the guy who was previously considered the greatest current talent, and former wunderkind, of the divsion and proceeded to destroy two other former champions who he left tapping, or unconscious, on the canvas.
I don’t really care if he is a snitch. I don’t care if he is very awkward in interviews. I don’t see the arrogance that most of his haters claim they see. Jon Jones is an awkward kid who just happens to be the best fighter on the planet (cue the Anderson Silva debate….but remember who said who wouldn’t fight who, and why, before you do).
If you can’t appreciate the talent in the cage, then you might as well go watch WWE or Real fucking Housewives as the drama is what you are a fan of, not talented fighters, and Jones is truly talented. He is a once in a generation fighter. No one has had a run like he just had in 2011. If he beats Rashad, his run of beating the 4 most recent 205 champions gives him claim to greatest MMA’ist ever, and easily puts him into the fake #1 P4P spot. No one has done that. EVER.
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I understand all of that.
So you fall under the 2nd reason I mentioned. I definitely appreciate his skills and realize what he has done so far is amazing. Although, I don’t think it’s quite as amazing as some seem to think. But we won’t get into that. I guess I just don’t care for the notion of liking someone and defending them just because they’re great. A Jon Jones fight will definitely grab my attention as something I’ll for sure be interested in watching. But at the same time, I hate the guy. I appreciate your response, but it really didn’t help to answer my question.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
They just like him inside the cage or claim that that's all they pay attention to
Which I highly doubt cause EVERYBODY has at least one fighter that they can’t stand and want to root against and the reasons for that probably have absolutley nothing to do with anything that goes on in the cage.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
So is it like a competitive thing?
Do they just like the best fighter so that their fighter beats other fans’ fighters? I don’t see how you could just ignore their personalities.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
probably have absolutley nothing to do with anything that goes on in the cage.
Completely agree. I typically hate certain fighters because their fans are so delusional that it causes me to hate the fighter.
Used to be Couture. Thank God the paycheck retired.
Then BJ. The laziest, most talented fighter ever.
Now Nick Diaz. Not starting that again.
I watched all three of them fight as often as I could and appreciated what they do in the cage, but their fans opinions of them were the reason for the hate, lol.
Now with Bones, I will hug his nuts as much, and as often, as I can simply because his anti-fans are so adamant in their hate. It doesn’t mean Forrest will ever be replaced as my favorite fighter…;)
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You know in this fight
It will be one of the few fights where Rashad Evans comes into the cage and the crowd is cheering like crazy for him to win. Trust me, it won’t be because they all love Rashad Evans. That should tell you something, cause Rashad is also one of those fighters that people like to boo.
I like Rashad though, that’s one of the fighters I root for that most other people seem to dislike.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
I HATED the showboating against Forrest
The he knocked him the fuck out and later, after the taste of bile left my throat, I realized that he is truly one of the greats.
Rashad plays a part just like Kos plays a part just like Sonnen plays a part. All smart, successful men, but Rashad is the most talented of the MMA heels, by a wide margin.
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Actually,
I don’t think Rashad is truly a heal anymore. I think before it was just him letting loose and being goofy. I hated it, too. But I think he realized how much it bothered people and that it wasn’t who he was, so he quit doing the gay shit.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
I'm kind of like you, ulf
I tend to let fan perception control who i like/dislike to a degree, just don’t think it’s as much as you seem to.
I used to like Couture, but the whole holdout/lying/greed thing made me dislike him. Fans didn’t affect me with him. I think he’s very good, but yeah, he’s kind of overrated. I try not to let super-biased fans who are ridiculous affect me. To the typical knowledgeable fan, I think Couture was rated correctly.
On the other hand, Penn was totally different. He seemed to be considered a god in mma and I had no idea why. He accomplished very little.
Diaz is definitely overrated, too. Doesn’t seem like anything more than a gatekeeper. Who’s he beat?
As for Bones, don’t forget that there are some fans, like myself, who hate him, but still appreciate his greatness. It can go both ways at the same time.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
half of my "persona" here is contrarian, lol
sometimes the debate needs some kindling to get the fire started. I have no problem providing the impetus, and like you, I am willing to debate a point just for the sake of debating. It makes me appear to “nuthug” or “be a hater” much more than I truly am.
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yeah
but all you have to do is keep it logical/reasonable/realistic, and it’s tough for them to play the nuthugger/hater cards. I don’t really consider myself a contrarian, though. I usually have a bigger reason than simply trying to be different, although I’m not afraid at all to go against the grain if that’s how I truly see it.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
Yea right...
You got fighters you dislike for w/e reasons too. If people just looked at the fights only and what goes on in the cage then hardly anybody in the fight game would be gettin boo’d at all. People don’t do that, they got favorites and they got guys they like to hate on. That’s the same with fans of every sport.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
I hate Couture because of you...
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Ha!
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
People should just give him the credit he deserves
Not to many people are right down the middle on jones either he is the greatest fighter ever or a piece of arrogant trash..IMO he’s neither but I enjoy watching him fight
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by letter19 on Feb 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hate him, but I don't let my bias affect my feelings of his abilities very much
I think he’s great, but hate his guts. It can go both ways.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
meh
If you are willing to take the time to hate, you should be willing to sacrifice all logic and reason since you are admitting strong feelings towards someone that has no idea you exist. How logical is that?
Just fucking scream from the rooftops that he is the most arrogant piece of shit snitch the world has ever seen and HE NEEDS TO DIE!!! It is the Just Bleed way…
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What sense does it make when your favorite hockey team wins a match
And you jump up and cheer like you just won the lottery? None.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Wait?? What???
Don’t bring hockey into this…;)
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lol just sayin
It never makes any sense when people get emotionally invested in any sport. Cause whether a team wins or loses it doesn’t do shit for you. But people will still feel better or worse depending on how well “their team” fares.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
+19
My mind just doesn’t work that way I don’t cheer for or against any fighter/team..I just want to be entertained
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by letter19 on Feb 20, 2012 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I lean more towards this as well,
although I still sometimes have a rooting interest. It’s just not nearly as often or as strongly as a typical fan.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
I have actually met Jones
there was nothing fake or arrogant about him. He was friendly and easy going and took pictures with us and joked around. it takes time to truly know one’s character not just a few post fight interviews. By the way I also met griffin and he was an ass….so go figure …shogun was awesome though.
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by rooseveltdunn on Feb 20, 2012 9:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't really put much stock into those kinds of situations.
I mean, you could argue that Jones loves the attention and can come across as caring about the fans. As for Forrest, maybe he’s just more real and is understandably sick of the attention his popularity has brought him. Or maybe he was in a hurry, had a bad day, or he just happens to really be an ass. Who knows. I feel as though what I’ve seen from these 2 guys up to this point means more than a couple very short encounters.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
I would like to ask you the same thing Champ about why you dislike Jones.
You say he comes off as fake/arrogant/weird/douche. Why? Just a “feeling”? What has he said, done to make you say this? I have a theory about why guys don’t like Bones. Let me ask you a seemingly unrelated question. How do you feel about Ben Henderson?
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 20, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
People need to stop doing this ^^
There is no conspiracy against JBJ, some people just don’t like the guy. Actually the majority of fans it seems. Look at the way they cheered Machida and boo’d Bones at the weigh in. Look at Greg Jacksons infamous “Get some fans.” line. Some people just rub other people the wrong way. Bones is one of those fighters the fans don’t seem to get behind.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Doing what? Having an opinion? Asking questions? No conspiracy theory.
I have pressed you and UFChamp and gotten no answers. I explained my theory in my response to you above. Matt Hughes was a douche but no more than most other fighters. But you mix in that he says he is a Christian and it seems like the hate meter goes off the chart. I may be completely wrong. Just a theory. I don’t think it is a conspiracy. People hate guys like JBJ and Bendo and cheer guys like Diaz and Cerrone. Maybe it is just that in entertainment people like a villain. I am just coming up with conjecture here because no one will give me a straight answer. That’s why I asked about Bendo. I would still be interested to see what Champ says about him.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
No, what you're trying to say without just coming straight out and saying it is
That a right thinking, logical person can in no way dislike JBJ. That it’s impossible to dislike the guy’s personality and that everyone that does is just a hater and they have no possible justification for not cheering for JBJ when he walks out to the cage.
That’s what it sounds like you (and many others) are trying to say, IMO.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
1st off,
I hope to god I don’t have to explain his weird/awkwardness. That’s a given, right? And yes, to me, the way he talks, he comes off as having an arrogant demeanor. He sounds like he’s on his high horse 24-7 as well. This is where the “fakeness” comes in. Someone that arrogant who’s seemingly trying to come off as being high/mighty/all good screams, “fake.” I know I’m not alone on this.
As for Ben Henderson, I honestly don’t know enough about him yet to have a real opinion of him yet, so I’d say neutral. I didn’t watch WEC and I pay much more attention to the WW-and-up divisions than I do the smaller ones. Can you give another example from one of those divisions who has been in the UFC for awhile?
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
I like Ben
But I’m pulling Edgar on this one, I just can’t not like Frankie after his two come backs against Maynard.
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by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Rashad by brutal overhand right KO First round
I’m calling it
Every time Chuck Norris looks into a mirror it breaks. Even glass is not stupid enough to get between Chuck Norris and Chuck Norris.
I hope your right.
This would crush Dana whites soul
I don't always bet on MMA but when I do.. I bet Dos Santos
Why would you care about what id does to Dana White? Why not focus on the fighters and enjoy the fight? I’m amazed at how much talk and hatred there is for Dana all over the place. I tune in and watch the fights and read about fighters. I’ll check out a Dana interview now and then when he does one, but he’s not the first thing I think about in relation to every fight and every piece of news. It’s just weird.
Either you're Rashad's wife or best friend
For you to give credit to Rashad. No way that Rashad KOs Jones, No chance in hell
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There's always a chance.
Now, count up your crimes!
by Cyclonejoker on Feb 20, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
I'm neither his wife or best friend.............
The application of strong or bitter words without reason, Is a sign of weakness and self doubt…You finding comfort in always picking the bigger and better more hyped guy only farther validates this claim. Try to get out of that box now and again?
You will return, and you will try to act like you are smarter than me, and for all I know you could very well be smarter then me. either way you may have physiological problems. :)
I don't always bet on MMA but when I do.. I bet Dos Santos
I think you got lost on your way to Bloody Tampon, friend
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
If you have enough reading comprehension
You will see that I replied to Jye Pereira. Unless you control that username also
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Seen it All Before
Same stuff everyone was saying before the Chuck fight. I was there telling everyone what Rashad was gonna do to him and I was called crazy and delirious. And there were all sorts if excuses for why Chuck lost after the fight that nobody would’ve ever said before the fight. Same thing will happen when Rashad beats Jones. Lets not act like Jones is invincible. He’s good, but very beatable. Machida beat him in the standup. What makes you think Jones has anything for Rashad’s wrestling? He certainly doesn’t have the accolades to compete with Rashad’s wrestling. I don’t know if Rashad will ko Jones, but it’s entirely possible. It’s entirely probable that Rashad will win either way.
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by G Squat on Feb 20, 2012 8:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No offense,
but what did you think was going to happen in the Evans/Machida match?
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
I Thought and Picked Machida to Win
Because I knew Rashad was gonna stand with him. This Rashad… the one who has gone back to his wrestling… he beats Machida 10/10 times.
Live for God
by G Squat on Feb 20, 2012 10:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Proof:
http://www.mmaplayground.com/forums/topic.aspx?&P=1&ID=32588&Highlight=gsquat#P395628
See evenflow’s post. My account was banned so you can’t see my picks, but I had talked with him about it.
Live for God
by G Squat on Feb 20, 2012 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i don't care who wins
i just want it to be over already. this shit is so fucking lame.
They've jumped the shark with the trash-talk.
When you’re trash-talking about religion… your trash-talk has officially jumped the shark.
You're right
That religion thing was uncalled for
Also that Rashad said i know who you are cause i have seen you in real life, and then not saying what he is meaning…
It is also weird that first Jon Jones is saying oh yeah i am the funniest, the most handsome etc. etc. Than say i’m not perfect. These guys are sooo annoying!!!
I hope this will be a double KO so we can say they both lost because they are already getting on my nerves..
I don't think it's pumping up the fans.
It’s not that it’s uncalled for, but that it’s just stupid and does not entertain or pump the fans up. I don’t really care either way because I never fall for hype and trash-talk, but fans just get weirded out by all the religious shit.
Also, fighters usually say outrageous, untrue or self-contradictory things all the time when they trash-talk. It’s nothing new. But with these two, it isn’t entertaining like it was with Bisping and Sonnen. With Evans and Jones, it’s just weird and uncomfortable. I, however, would not object to a double KO.
Why does everyone on this website repeat each other?
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by mistahsupahyphy on Feb 19, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions
Why does everyone on this website repeat each other?
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Why does everyone on this website repeat each other?
you should totally twitter that on your facebook
Rashad is Right
Young people tend to have an overly exaggerated vie of their own significance in the world. If you do music, you believe you’re going to be the next Michael Jackson. If you’re in business, you believe you will found the next Google. If you’re in politics, you think being POTUS is your destiny. If you’re in sports, you think you’re the next Muhammad Ali.
That confidence is a great thing because believing in your potential is a great motivator. However, statistically speaking everybody cannot be great. Less than 1% of us will ever be Steve Jobs, Reagan or Ali. Eventually, like Rashad says, we all taste failure. Your teenage band fails to get a record contract and you quit to become an insurance salesman. Your start-up fails and you go get a real job. You suffer defeat in your athletic career, and retire as just another footnote in history. Older people are more conservative for a reason- they know life’s a bitch and most of us will die unknown, unsung and unsuccessful.
Of course, this doesn’t mean Jones cannot be the Ali of MMA. He just doesn;t realise that statistical reality is not in favor of that. Even Ali was eventually defeated. Churchill went into exile before returning to lead the world against Hitler. Maybe it is only after Jones’ first defeat that we (and he) will know if he really has the heart of a champion. That’s what Rashad meas by saying his attitude will change when he tastes failure for the first time.
by Motmaitre on Feb 19, 2012 11:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1 who did you pay to type that for you ..
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by wooly shambler on Feb 19, 2012 11:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
-3
Because I wish I wrote that
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Feb 20, 2012 1:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think
UFC is going to put together another Primetime, just because these two talk so much.
very well written Mot
But do you believe, in the bottom of your heart, that Rashad will be the one to hand Jones his first defeat?
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There were signs in hindsight
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
It's an entirely different scenario though
Mike Tyson underestimated Buster. Look at what happened when Tyson took him seriously. I do not see Jones underestimating Rashad.
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True, Bones didn't even comes close to understanding what Rashad meant and it went over his head.
Now, count up your crimes!
by Cyclonejoker on Feb 20, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
I totally disagree with this post. Who gives a shit if statistically he isn't gonna be the Ali of mma.
Statistically Jobs shouldn’t have even had a well paying job but he believed he did. In no way am I saying that Jones is a good guy but for you to say that confidence is a good motivator but statically everybody cannot be great in naive to say the least. Why should anyone settle with statistics. The point of young people thinking that they have the whole world ahead of them is the point of being young. If no one believed that then no one would be great. Who cares about the 1%. Strive to be the best you can be and don’t let anyone tell you the statistics of your future.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
I don't think so. Rashad says "There isn't a lesson that he is going to teach someone
that hasn’t been there before." Thats ridiculous to say. by you simply saying “you missed the point” truly shows that you don’t have your own opinion. Mot has his opinion. I say different. All you say is, you missed the point. Way to contribute.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
no, you clearly missed it
if you really want me to take the time to explain it, maybe I will. basically I’m saying your disagreeing with nothing because you missed the point
by Hollywoodsco on Feb 20, 2012 3:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
his point was that rashad is correct in saying young people have a different view
but you disagree because according to you people of all ages have the same point of view
by Hollywoodsco on Feb 20, 2012 3:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
not everyone is wired in the same way
I’m not discrediting Mot’s post because he put some thought into it, it was well written (they usually are), and provides a perspective that most of us are not thinking of. BUT, Jones is a Generation Y which puts a different spin on things. Gen Y’s exude confidence, a sense of entitlement and narcissism which describes JBJ to a tee. Nothing wrong with that at all.
It has nothing to do with exaggerating their impact on the world.
"I'm gonna be the champion till the day I decide not to be. And that isn't any time soon." - Brock Lesnar at UFC 106
by hairybumcrack on Feb 20, 2012 7:24 AM EST up reply actions
fuck reagan
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Feb 20, 2012 1:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well...to be fair...we're here talking about Jones and he's not on his laptop talking about us
So I’d say, he’s not like most of us that will die unknown, unsung and unsuccessful…
Thanks for making really how insignificant my existence is right now you jerk!
Good post
But it does imply that you are a failure if you’re not rich or famous, which is wrong. You can find personal success that doesn’t conform to the standards of success set by people on tv and movies, and you can live a much better life in every way than the most rich and/or famous person out there. Very fame-obsessed culture in America these days.
True
But then again, that’s how older people think. Some may say it’s a rationalization that comes when it finally dawns on you that you’ll never be rich, famous or successful in the conventional sense. So you shift your goalposts and say ‘Well, I can be successful in other ways.’
Reagan? Ronald Reagan?
WTF is up with you americans idolizing Ronald Reagan?! Is it just because you managed to elect and re-elect an even worse presiden in George W. Bush? Ronald Reagan was a disaster for the entire world!
Please don’t refer to Reagan in the same sentence as Ali, MJ and Churchill. The rest of the world have come to terms with your idolization of Kennedy, but it stops with him! :-D
Bitches! Do my dishes!
Hahah
Why was Reagan so bad? and what are you one of those British people that hate America?
Jon Jones and Anderson Silva are top 2 p4p.
Not British, and I love the US!
I just think this new Reagan idolization is getting out of hand! There are so many great presidents in the history of the USA. Why idolize one of the worst?!
He tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion. Federal spending "ballooned" under Reagan. He bailed out Social Security in 1983 after attempting to privatize it, and set up a progressive taxation system to keep it funded into the future. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran, and he helped OBL and the Taliban by arming them to fight the Soviets by proxy.
The list goes on and on…
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you must be too young to remember the Cold War
Reagan won it. He’s the reason you don’t have a bomb shelter under your back yard stocked with canned goods. He’s the reason there’s not a big Red totalitarian shadow looming over your kids’ futures. I find it sad that the world so quickly forgot the Soviet threat and how Americans want to blame Reagan for our financial woes when he was fighting the longest war in our history against the biggest adversary the Free World has ever known. Now that the Juggernaut has been put down, the whole world wants to bitch about America’s role in international affairs. I didn’t hear them (especially the Europeans) bitching that America should mind it’s own business when the USSR was still around, let alone the Third Reich.
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Oh gawd, where to start...
I do remember the cold war, and I probably felt it more than you did considering I practically lived on the border to the USSR. Soviet collapsed on it’s own. Maybe Reagans arms race quickened the process by a couple of years, but saying he won the cold war is a joke.
I won’t even bother discussing the 2nd WW, but you’re probably aware of the fact that that story has quite a few dimensions, right?
Bitches! Do my dishes!
And btw...
Why don’t you praise Kennedy instead? His handling of the cuban missile crisis is the fact that I’m living in my house instead of a bunch of nuke-proof roaches. That was a much more impressive feat than anything Ronnie Ray-gun managed during his 8 years…
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Kennedy showed some real stones there, no doubt. But Reagan’s defense spending that he’s so criticized for is what bankrupted the Soviets. And if they’d let him build his Star Wars system, we wouldn’t have to worry so much about all these rogue states and insane dictators getting their hands on an ICBM.
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It is absolute bullshit how
Reagan took all of my accomplishments and made like they were his.
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I love how Rashad keeps calling Jones fake
Yet he can’t decide which persona he wants for himself as he changes his act continually trying to speak well at some times and when he wants to act “hard” switches into his deep ebonic mode. Jones may be fake, but having Rashad call him so is laughable….if we weren’t so tired of this already to laugh.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Feb 20, 2012 12:53 AM EST reply actions
either way
Jones pretending like hes a man of the bible but living as a complete contradiction does make him a FAKE.. Rashad trying to speak proper but returning to ebonic mode only makes him part time Gangsta.. I don’t like either person or image portrayed but if I was going to pick one who I thought was less phony I would pick rashad.
I don't always bet on MMA but when I do.. I bet Dos Santos
"Jones may be fake, but having Rashad call him so is laughable"
This
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
FUCK YES!!!!!
I like bacon...Steelers fo life!!!!
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!! Nick Diaz would mop the floor with GSP and the fight with Sheilds confirms it!!!
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his" Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.I hate Jon Jones..No mas la raza!!! JDS Bitches
Rios vs gamboa, April 14th
This will be so much better than any ufck fight
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by antone04 on Feb 20, 2012 2:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Rashad needs to just come out and tell us what happened...
Stop beating around the bush and tell us what Jones did one day when they were hanging out
lol Im sure he was cheating on his wife and Rashad knew about it.
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
or he told some dirty jokes once
Openly religious people are judged by a completely different measuring stick. If a non-religious guy tells an off-color joke or loses his temper, he’s cool. But if someone who’s vocal about their religion does anything fallible, he gets labeled as a hypocrite. And if he manages to avoid any obvious vices, he gets labeled as self-righteous and judgmental no matter how humble his demeanor. Much of society seem to feel threatened by the very existence of religious people or any display of faith in public life. Same goes for pacifists, vegetarians, almost anyone who lives by a clearly defined code of conduct. No matter how humble or polite they are, people will accuse them of being judgemental and stuck up because those who live their life with no real absolutes feel threatened by anyone whose lifestyle & choices suggest that there are any objective truths out there that transcend our subjective opinions. They don’t have to TELL us we’re wrong, they just have to live in a way that suggests there is such a thing as “wrong” and we get offended and feel the need to retaliate against an attack that never happened.
Jon Jones has never said anything judgmental about anyone who doesn’t believe as he does, but guys like him and Vitor get bashed on this site constantly for being “self-righteous” just because they’re public about their religion.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
I like Jones and Rashad is more right than wrong..
jones is on cloud nine and full of himself, rashad is bitter and jealous, I would think rashad would be the more approachable kinda guy for the fans, jones would be a little dismissive imo. Rashad is also the one that picked the fight… but at this moment im sick of them both
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
I never really cared much for jone’s out of ring personality but this little spat changed my opinion. You have to take to heart his statement about being just 24 and having to deal with fame and what comes with it. He is maturing through this process and he will continue to do so. And he is going to kick Rashad’s ass and then tell him he love’s him. Goodbye.
It's like a soap opera.....
Shut up and just fight. I understand the pre fight hype to help advertise and sell but either way people are still going to watch…..gets old after a while
by ToeLock6 on Feb 20, 2012 6:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Rashad Talking About Being Humble?!?!?!?
Has the world gone crazy? Rashad Evans doesn’t have a humble bone in his body!!
This whole fight is overcooked, overhyped and
Is poised to underdeliver. Bones says he wants 4 fights a year, but if he destroys rashad, the UFC will be hard pressed to find that many new contenders this year alone.
by otherdarkmeat on Feb 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I started disliking Rashad when he coached TUF with Rampage
He is such a fucking drama queen. On TUF I had to turn it off sometimes because I was so annoyed with the bitching of Rashad.
I’m sure 90% of it is just him trying to hype and sell a fight, but do it like a man, not a teenage girl.
YEa
I honestly think Rashad is mad Bones won the belt, and is getting the hype. Then Bones saying he guess’s he’d fight Rashad made him feel betrayed, but it’s business. It’s not like Bones said “Oh, I’ll whoop his ass, he’s a chump”. Rashad needs to get the mindset that business is business.
Jon Jones and Anderson Silva are top 2 p4p.
make no mistake jones may not be saying he will stomp rashad with little to no effort
But that is exactly what he is thinking, he knows hes ganna beat and batter him easily. Jones has nothing to be humble about for the next 10 years he should just walk around and declare him dominance over anyone.
by dia mette on Feb 20, 2012 11:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i couldnt watch one episode of that season of tuf .. even with kimbo .. rashad seems so fake .. like hes acting atleast when he was on that show .. but in other instances he seems like a cool dude .. like when he lost to machida he was talking about how even in his dreams before the fight with lyoto how he was loosing in them and i thought it was cool how he admitted that .. but the rampage door thing in that season seemed sooooo staged … like i said it seemed more like 2 guys trying to act then have actual beef .
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
by Nightmare83 on Feb 20, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
really?
I thought it was simply Rampage’s simple-minded, defensive ass being annoyed and getting upset and that fueled Rashad to pile it on more, like he was having fun fucking with him. That’s how I remembered it.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
I thought Rashad came across pretty good and genuine on TUF
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Rashad is in for the beating of his life, nice watching you compete occasionally bye bye
by dia mette on Feb 20, 2012 11:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
its very possible i mean he dominated page and sho gun and every other guy he has face .. but he didnt do that with machida .. im not saying machida was winning but he did ok in there .. and i think rashads counter striking along with his speed will give jones a fight .. i think but i could be wrong ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
by Nightmare83 on Feb 20, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I know, now he made it personal
Bones is going to wreck him.
Some guys fight worse when they are mad, but bones seems like the kind of guy who could channel the anger into fighting energy.
I think Rashad is in his head, though.
Rampage just pissed him off a little, but Rashad has really gotten in his head. I think Rashad knows that the chink in Bones’ armor isn’t physical, it’s psychological.
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a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. —from Wikipedia
WTH does that have to do with Jon Jones??? I could see how you could call someone like Sonnen or Kos a troll cause they say things they don’t really believe just to get a response out of people, but that’s not Bones.
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