UFC Quick Quote: Jake Ellenberger is praying for a fight against Carlos Condit
by Geno Mrosko on Feb 19, 2012 3:34 PM EST
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"I think I should've been clearer on what I want and who I want to fight. I think I can beat Carlos Condit, and that's really the fight I want. That's the fight I'm hoping and praying for - but it's not my decision. It's absolutely what I want, though. I've fought him before, and now I'm a completely different fighter. I know I can beat him and it's definitely the fight I want. Carlos has said he wants to wait, and while I can understand his position, it doesn't stop me from wanting that fight."
-- UFC welterweight Jake Ellenberger laments his decision (via Heavy MMA) not to specifically call out UFC Interim Welterweight Champion Carlos Condit following his unanimous decision win over Diego Sanchez at UFC on FUEL TV 1 this past Wed., Feb. 15, 2012, in Omaha, Nebraska. The victory gave "The Juggernaut" six in a row, including consecutive fight night bonus awards. He's got a good a resume as any other welterweight in the division at present time, so if there was ever a moment to lobby for a rematch against Condit, it was this past Wednesday. Unfortunately, he missed his window but now he's playing catch up in the media while hoping and praying the UFC sets up the fight before "The Natural Born Killer" moves on to unify the titles against Georges St. Pierre. Except he's already said that's what he's going to do, a decision UFC President Dana White has said he agrees with. So Ellenberger can keep praying but it looks like he's fresh out of luck. Anyone think it would have made a difference had he called out Condit inside the Octagon after beating Sanchez?
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After Jake's last fight he should be praying for cardio
Condit rides his bike for 2 rounds, then Jake gasses and Condit finishes. meh
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I believe ~
There are those who are cellular-inclined to have better cardio..
Meaning, you can only train ‘so hard’ for cardio, til it’s to nil effect..
Some people have the cellular mechanisms that makes training for it less of a priority..notably genetics..
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thats possible, but i dont think its Jake E's problem
his issue is 3 things(number 3 is speculation)
1 He trains at Reign. Great camp, but not known for cardio
2 He throws big power shots which are very tiring
3 Im not sure, but i doubt his diet is where it could be. If he got with someone like Dolce i think it would really help his cardio. Look at Joe Lauzon, hes shredded but his poor diet causes weak cardio
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"I dont pay attention to all that artsy crap. I only like vaginas and violence"
Cardio is a combination a things
Stifling lactic acid production
Cleaner vascular system
Red blood cells carrying oxygen longer under adverse conditions.. Training hypoxia can help with this (see Wandy Silva)..
Again, I think it has much to do with genetics, but I’m sure diet can play a part… I believe in holistic wellness and preventative measures.. Vegetables are shown to help cells oxidize at a slower rate…
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I completely agree
This is a little off topic but when you saw JBJ vs Shogun it was a prime example of superior genetics. Shogun is a veteran, been training and competing since JBJ was in middle school. Then here comes a college wrestler, with no striking or MMA experience whatsoever and completely derails Shoguns career. I always wondered what the UFC could do about this, it’s not a common enough problem to bring up I guess.
I think mental resolve is incredibly ignored as well.. Do you realise how powerful and potent your mind is?
You can essentially control your nerves as long as you don’t have any neurological problems to speak of (courtesy genealogy or disturbances from diet)..
Jon not only has length,weight on most LHWs, but he’s got the mental capacity to stay balanced and in turn confident.. and yes of course he has the skill to handle himself wherever the fight may go..
Shogun took that big knee in the first minute right on the chin… That will rattle you no matter what your name is…
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Wish more
People could actually be rational and consider these ideas, I completely agree on this one as well. What would you say about Chael? I kind of stop taking the whole act he put on after the Bisping fight. Like when he said “The man with the biggest arm, the man with the biggest charm and whose going to do alot of harm” etc. Is it just because he is insecure and needs to motivate himself? Like the Diaz brothers do when they start drama with their opponent? Makes ya wonder.
Well, Chael is really a ‘special’ case. Granted, he’s a well-spoken individual. He’s a crook within the political realm (go figure) and is COMPLETELY and utterly delusional when it comes to his ‘career’ in the UFC….
His idols are vintage pro wrestlers..He makes his own cameo with his altered personality.. A showman, for lack of better words..
I think it hilarious at times, but childish other times..
I believe he psyches himself up when he knows her performance was less than stellar (and not overwhelming good enough or decisive to warrant ANOTHER shot at Anderson) arguably the best fighter on the planet.
To each his own.. Dana, Joe or any of the co can’t really control what comes from his mouth on a whim.. So, just let him do his thing.. He’s but a part of a much greater roster anyway.. Just one person, who happens to garner heaps of attention.
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i would like to see ellenberger/hendricks
I’m not sold on jake yet. Fighting hendricks would make a clear #1 contender when condit and gsp settle their business
Anderson Silva is going to retire Sonnen in Brazil!
Women are at home with their husbands and children. Whores are at the club getting smacked by the Reem.
hard to be sold on a 2round fighter
Especially when he’s asking to be in a 5 round fight
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by letter19 on Feb 19, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've been saying the same thing Goldie.
Completely agree.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Feb 19, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
It's a bit late to wake up and be calling for a fight with Condit.
He should have done right after his fight with Sanchez, in the octagon, while everyone was watching.
Jake E not only has a questionable cardio but also questionable intelligence. What took him so long?
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
He was too tired to call him out
He just apparently got his wind back a day or so ago.
"I'm gonna be the champion till the day I decide not to be. And that isn't any time soon." - Brock Lesnar at UFC 106
by hairybumcrack on Feb 19, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
lol
Anderson Silva is going to retire Sonnen in Brazil!
Women are at home with their husbands and children. Whores are at the club getting smacked by the Reem.
1 weekSig bet on henderson/edgar goldmouth/bendo pride/edgar
+1
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by wooly shambler on Feb 19, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Probably didn’t feel to confident asking for a title shot after being dominated in the 3rd round
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by letter19 on Feb 19, 2012 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
probably shocked he won
"I'm gonna be the champion till the day I decide not to be. And that isn't any time soon." - Brock Lesnar at UFC 106
by hairybumcrack on Feb 19, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hendricks is fighting Kos
That’s a better fight IMO
by Starr788 on Feb 19, 2012 8:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to see Kos take on Ellenberger
Kos is much better than dirty Sanchez and as close as that fight was, I think that he would expose Ellenberger. I’’m not sold on Ellenberger as a serious threat due to his cardio concerns. He has issues making it through a 3 rd fight…..I can’t imagine him making it to the 4th round.
"I'm gonna be the champion till the day I decide not to be. And that isn't any time soon." - Brock Lesnar at UFC 106
Main events should all be 5
Diego woulda ‘turnt it up’ and made it a completely different fight….
That’s why Diego is dangerous.. He can keep that pace…
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What is the point of an interim champion waiting for the champion to heal?
Why not make Ellenberger v Hendricks for the Interim Interim belt if thats the case?
I agree
There should be at least 2 interim belts plus the real belt in each weight category
"I'm gonna be the champion till the day I decide not to be. And that isn't any time soon." - Brock Lesnar at UFC 106
by hairybumcrack on Feb 19, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
fuck ya!!
This is the way that it should be.
"I'm gonna be the champion till the day I decide not to be. And that isn't any time soon." - Brock Lesnar at UFC 106
by hairybumcrack on Feb 19, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to see ellenberger vs winner of kampmann and Alves
" What would Sakuraba do ? " - Ivan Menjivar
by wooly shambler on Feb 19, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Don't get me wrong...
I like Jake E..Tough cat, goes for the finish…
I think Carlos has his # although.. He’s got the style to keep him at distance and the JJ to threaten..
The cardio is/has been the krux of the matter lately.. We all know Condit is a cardio machine, like Diaz…
Condit will be around much longer, let’s say.
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why are people asking for hendricks vs ellengasser
Did I miss the kos/hendricks fight damn because I was sure kos was going to win that fight
by ElStIkO on Feb 19, 2012 4:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I just don't think he's that Good
Will Hunting
by ElStIkO on Feb 19, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If he can get past Josh
We’ll know for sure he’s legit
by PotOfGold on Feb 19, 2012 4:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Diego has a pretty good game, and i'm sure they were mad slippery
but most top welterweights woulda found a way to close it out in that last minuto…
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This fight
Needs to happen. Get on it Dana/Joe/Lorenzo
Why?
Alves is not relevant……and will come in overweight. How about Rory MacDonald?
"I'm gonna be the champion till the day I decide not to be. And that isn't any time soon." - Brock Lesnar at UFC 106
by hairybumcrack on Feb 19, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well if he (Thiago)
Beats Kampmann and Condit doesn’t take the Ellenberger fight, there’s a strong chance Jake and Thiago could meet. Or possibly Hendricks had he beat Koscheck. I’d like to see the Rory fight as well but by the time that happens Jake would’ve probably fought Condit by then. Had he lost to Condit, I’d love to see Rory vs Jake, no doubt. Would be a great FUEL main event or FX for that matter.
I really hope carlos mans up and takes this fight
i mean what good was it to have an interm title fight if he is not going to defend it. The fight with diaz should just have been called a #1 contender fight.
i told you jake!
lol i said it right after his post fight interview that he shoulda screamed condits name….i also said that his nickname should be default
Here's the thing
People like their champions dominant, but only within reason. Once they begin dominating over and over it gets boring.
But when they’re coming up, they want a fighter that leaves no doubt. Jon Jones after finishing Ryan Bader was a flimsy excuse for a title fight, but finishing Rua, and then following that up by finishing two previous champions is pretty dominant.
Dos Santos beat up Roy Nelson and Shane Carwin to get his title shot, and then knocked out Velasquez. Way back 2006 Anderson Silva knocked out Chris Leben, and then finished Rich Franklin. These wins give closure and finality to these things.
But some fights don’t convince the brass that a fighter is worthy of a title fight. For instance, a controversial, limp-wristed win over Nick Diaz over five rounds. Or a three round decision over Diego Sanchez in which you took an enormous beating in the third round.
Neither Carlos nor Jake really inspires confidence in anybody at this point, which is why the UFC brass isn’t jumping through hoops to talk and promote it right away. Both were unconvincing wins, and both make for an interesting hype story. Which is why Ellenberger will likely have to prove he’s more worthy in another fight before long.
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
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