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UFC Quick Quote: Tim Sylvia will not be returning to the Octagon

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"I have no beef with Tim Sylvia whatsoever, I have nothing against the guy, but I say it all the time, that was when the division was the weakest, when he was champion. And for him to make a statement like he could come back and beat 80-percent of the fighters in the UFC? I don't know what Tim Sylvia's been doing. The last time I saw him, he got knocked out by a 50-year-old boxer in like 10 seconds. Who'd he beat? They guy's just out there trying to get back into the UFC, trying to make a living, I get it, but he fought in the UFC when the UFC heavyweight division was its weakest. Him and Arlovski were knocking each other out every weekend."

Sorry, "Maine-iac" fans, but former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Heavyweight Champion Tim Sylvia won't be making his return to the Octagon, despite his recent video asking fans to support his campaign to get back into the world's largest fight promotion. That's according to UFC President Dana White, who insisted in the UFC on FUEL TV post-fight show that Sylvia is not only past his prime, but wasn't very good to begin with, having been champion when the 265-pound division was at its weakest. Any fight fans out there jumping for joy? Or crying themselves to sleep? Sound off!

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That’s when Fedor was dominating the Heavyweight division in Pride, which had a very strong roster. :-) Dana once again indirectly acknowledges the legitimacy of Fedor. Nuts UFC fan boys, nuts.

by sz87 on Feb 16, 2012 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

shit i knew a fedor thing was coming ..

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I am far from a Tim fan but DW is a hypocrite as usual. Let's count the fighters who did not deserve to be in the UFC in the past 5 years...

Hardy
Titties Fucking Beltran
Hague
Rivera
Eric the Red
Kimbo Slice
James Toney – this guy Co-Mained a PPV!!!

That’s just off the top of my head. At least Tim had gold around his waist before falling off. It has gotten to the point that you just cannot believe anything he says anymore. ANYTHING.

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
Please copy this sig if you agree.

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by OJR on Feb 16, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

The fact a guy who has never fought has a true opinion of who is what is dumb. Tim was a really good fighter who didn’t connect with the fans that is all.

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto

by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup. He was good but had no charisma. That's really it.

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
Please copy this sig if you agree.

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by OJR on Feb 16, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually

The difference with the other HW fighter named in the previous posts is that Tim was boring and disliked. He might’ve been “good” but that’s debatable to me.

by Baxter086 on Feb 16, 2012 1:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I do agree with Dana that the HW division absolutely sucked when Sylvia and Arlovski were the top guys

And that neither of them have what it takes to compete in the UFC anymore. But Dana’s opinion has been meaningless to me for a long time, he’s only interested in saying and doing what will make his company money.

Tim Sylvia has a big asking price and isn’t a draw so he won’t be back, that has nothing to do with his talent but we should all know by now that talent means very little to Zuffa. If Sylvia talked shit, offered to fight for nothing, was a personal friend of Dana and the Fertittas or stood and banged in every fight then he would be back.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
Mania misses dakatak.

by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

so you really think beating andrei,timmay, and bret rodgers is the same as beating mir,cain,jds,overeem,brock,couture ???

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Beating a relevant Timmay and Arlovski (and yes they were very relevant at the time), Cro Cop in his prime, Nog in his Prime and on and on.

I hate this shit. It would be like saying Walter Payton was never that good because the level of NFL athlete when he played is so far below the level of athlete that plays today. I hate that shit in sports. You have to look at what a guy did in the time he did it. All this hindsight and speculation is just speculation.

\m/

by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 16, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

people like to look back 10 years ago and then say shit like “Well, Chuck Liddell would’ve gotten killed by JBJ so in hindsight he was never any good.”

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s absurd.

Fan of: Cole Miller, Amir Sadollah, Alan Belcher, Frank Mir, Matt Brown

by Pootwich on Feb 16, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Who knows? Chuck had the KO power to win any fight, a concrete chin, great reflex's and he was almost impossible to take down and keep down

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

you are so fn high . chuck in his prime wouldnt hang with machida,evans or jones .. davis yes, lil nog yes page yes .. but he didnt have enough game and his wins werent that impressive .. jeremey horn .. wow .. sorbal .. big deal .. shit i think hendo would now would finish chuck in his prime .

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

this is pretty much what I was talkin about. Thanks for giving me a good example to point to.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

you are welcome.

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Prime Chuck could hang with Page?

Dude,Chuck WAS in his prime wen Page smashed him. Twice.

"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."

Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard

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by ArlovsKang on Feb 16, 2012 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Page is the better boxer by far. Chuck was known as the guy with a shit ton of tools and used hardly any of em.

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto

by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

The first fight was a pretty even brawl

And Page got the better of Chuck on that one, the 2nd fight Chuck had the full on beer belly goin.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

lol Dana threw in the towel!

Page is to Chuck what Hallman is to Hughes.

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto

by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't Dana, Dana was with Bas and Perry commenting on the fight

It’s funny cause when Chuck beat Alistair Dana takes the head phones off and runs over to hug Chuck etc.. When Page beats his ribs in and his corner throws in the towell Dana just sits there with Bas and Perry talkin about how Chuck didn’t follow the game plan. Doesn’t even go check on the guy to see if he’s alright.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

A true friend and a true manager.

Dana/UFC got screwed in all that shit that i’m happy they ended up trumping the PRIDE FC. They agreed to exchange talent, the UFC did their part yet PRIDE never offered a fighter to come over.

Liddell vs. Silva
Sylvia vs. Fedor
Both fights were suppose to occur in the UFC due to Chuck going to the tournament.

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto

by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea they weren't interested in any type of co-promotion or cooperative relationship

Definatley some scum bags running PRIDE at the time.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Promoters can’t be trusted, as soon as money is involved in anything-trust nobody.

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto

by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

The Yakuza were running them

No surprise that they were shady.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
Mania misses dakatak.

by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

They presented it as PRIDE vs UFC

Then if you go back and listen to Perry he’s making little comments about how the PRIDE show is bigger, better etc..

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Which it was

The UFC tried to copy off of Pride in their entrances and production but didn’t have the budget or creativity to pull it off.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
Mania misses dakatak.

by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And that sums up Dana in a nutshell

Still it was hilarious listening to him crying about how horrible it was that his boy was getting clowned and showcasing the difference in talent at the time between Pride and the UFC.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
Mania misses dakatak.

by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The 1st was a 1 sided brawl w/ page doing the ass whpping

Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds

by d*locc on Feb 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a competitive fight

Page was getting the better of him but Chuck got some good shots in too.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Chuck got murdered in that fight

It was so bad by the end that Hackleman threw in the towel as soon as Rampage got mount.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
Mania misses dakatak.

by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

hanging with someone is not the same as beating someone .. he would still loose but the fight would be competive ..

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

tim wasnt relevant at the time ...not even close

-KO of glass jaw Arlovski (where Arlovski had him KOd and still not sure wtf happened)
-complete snoozefest with Arlovski
-complete snoozefest with Monson
-Loss to Old Man Couture
-win over MW Vera
-Loss to Nog
-Cut from UFC

by the time Fedor fought him…no…he was not relevant at all

by Newfie3 on Feb 16, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes He Was

Because Big Nog had just beaten him and everyone was going crazy in the UFC when he did, and then Fedor came along and destroyed Sylvia in less than 1 round.

by sz87 on Feb 16, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

he was 2-3 in last 3 fights

and cut from the UFC…how was everyone going crazy in UFC when he didnt even get called back for another fight?

not saying Fedor didnt destroy him, but Tim wasnt a relevant HW at the time

by Newfie3 on Feb 16, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

He didn't get cut he left the UFC to fight Fedor for 800k in Afflication

I remember because Dana White was pissed off about it.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea pretty much

even if he does stop fighting at super heavyweight and comes in at 265 and rattles off a couple of impressive wins I doubt Dana will ever forgive him for giving Affliction a headlining main event.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Tims a giant can and the people/fans genuinely just dont like the guy.

I dont think there is any possible scenerio that would ever see him back in the UFC. Mind you Brandon Vera is still kicking around so I guess anything is possible :)

by HEELHOOK on Feb 16, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

If he was actually in shape and knocking people out I could see it happening

But as it is, he’s walkin into the cage at 300+ lbs and he looks terrible.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

if they were relevant they wouldnt of been cut by the ufc .. ufc always needs heavyweights .. they were done .. and they were never that good to begin with .

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

"they were never that good to begin with"

Disagreed, you have to be ignorant to say shit like that.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

ok i may be ignorant .. but its true which is why once they faced real competion i.e. not just eachother, they lost …

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

You talkin Tim and Arlovski? Cause they both had mixed results

AA started getting KO’d cause of his glass jaw and Tim just stopped training and got lazy as all hell. I’m not saying those two were the best HW’s out there but they weren’t cans. They were both good enough to hang with anyone in the division at the time.

Now CC and Big Nog, those two were elites, IDC how much of a hater you want to be. In their hay day those two were bad asses.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

That's like saying

Royce was never that good. You have to compare apples to apples.

"The less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice."
- Clint Eastwood

by U3O8man on Feb 16, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

royce was a elite fighter .. but not an elite mixed martial artist ..

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

and was fighting other elite fighters

You can’t compare then to know.

"The less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice."
- Clint Eastwood

by U3O8man on Feb 16, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

*now lousy auto correct

"The less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice."
- Clint Eastwood

by U3O8man on Feb 16, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Arlovski

From what I remember, Arlovski had been in a couple of wars. He was a beast before he suffered his first KO. He was never the same after that. Now someone like Paul Buentello, he was never any good. He got KOd by Arlovski with the first punch.

by KashAcous on Feb 16, 2012 6:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Fedor in his PRIME

was fighting the best in Pride, Fedor is now past his prime, Fedor was getting past his peak even when he fought Rogers, so today Fedor would most likely lose to those fighters you mention, but when he was in his prime he would have given them a hella of a fight. And I repeat, back in the days of Pride Fedor was fighting the Mirs, Cains, and JDJ’s of his day.

And for goodness sakes you mention Couture? When Couture beat Sylvia everyone went crazy saying what a legend, and Fedor made easy work of him in less than 1 round, not to mention Couture got his a$$ kicked to a Big Nog who was PAST HIS PEAK while Fedor DESTROYED Big Nog while he was at his peak.

Oh as for Brock, lol, Fedor would destroy Brock.

by sz87 on Feb 16, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Randy was what, 40 years old when he fought Nog and Sylvia?

by Newfie3 on Feb 16, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

older than that

Like 42 for Tim, 46 for Nog

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

gary goodrige,randleman,hunt.. but my beef isnt with when he was in pride .. my beef is once pride was done .. him going to strikeforce and affliction … instead of the ufc.

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Barnet, Sergei, aleksander E, semmy schilt, big nog, fedor, CC,

Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds

by d*locc on Feb 16, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

* werdum, mark hunt, Zulu

Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds

by d*locc on Feb 16, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed except for Zulu

He shouldn’t be included. Randleman on his day was a top HW as well.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
Mania misses dakatak.

by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont think timmay really believes he will be back in the ufc ..

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

There was a time when Tim was a good fighter

And actually had some definition and was in shape. That time is probably never coming around again, but to say he was never any good to begin with is going too far imo. He’s 6’8 265 lbs with KO power in both hands, at one time he was not the walking talking joke that he is now.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

but there was no one to challenge him then .. as soon as he fought someone with actual fighting abilty he lost ..

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Mir snapped his arm, Arlovski beat him

And he came back from those, after the loss to Couture he was fighting big Nog for the interim belt. Beat Brandon Vera when he was still considered a good fighter. Not saying Tim was legend status or elite but he wasn’t as terrible as people like to make out.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

i think people just didnt like Tim

he was very boring to watch, and was a complete douchebag (ie, wore his belt everywhere he went)

by Newfie3 on Feb 16, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

He actually came across as a good guy on Blind Date

Awkward but a good guy nevertheless. My problem with him was how boring his fights were especially towards the end of his UFC run. It didn’t help that his performances dipped after he got caught on the roids either.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
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by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Not much has changed

Other than belt thing.

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by U3O8man on Feb 16, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

*than the

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by U3O8man on Feb 16, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

lol, yea he was not a fan favorite

He had some pretty vicious KO wins early on though. At one point he was 16-0 with 14 finishes. Just sayin, the guy wasn’t always a can.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Just did a quick look at who he beat

You can’t say that’s not a Campbells kids collection.

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by U3O8man on Feb 16, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Rodriguez and Rothwell weren't bad

There are a lot of no names on there + Mike Whitehead and Jason Lambert but still, going 16-0 with 14 finishes in this sport is pretty damn good given how unpredictable it can be.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

if your best win is brandon vera then your not a top heavywieght .. i think you have to be ignorant if you think that beating a guy who should be fighting at 205 and who was still new to the ufc a big enough win to call yourself relevant …

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by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Vera was undefeated at the time

No one saw this downhill skid he’s on coming, everybody back then thought he was gonna do something.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

but he didnt so his won over him is null .. now if vera would of went on to be a elite fighter then you have a point ..

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by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

if you could look into a crystal ball and see the future then you might have a point

But you can’t, so when that fight took place, at that time, it was a good win.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

This hindsight shit needs to go

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait you consider his best win being Vera, stop talking. You cannot critique an era.

That’s like saying US military of the 40’s sucks to US military of 2000’s. NO SHIT we learn from our mistakes and improve our assets.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I never said it was his best win

I said it was a good win, my whole point was that Tim was not always a can, at one time he could fight with anyone and it would be competitive.

I’d rather look at who a fighter was coming into a fight and judge the results off that then who a fighter turned out to be several years afterward. I don’t think that’s fair, he may not be the same fighter for w/e reason. But we know who he was coming into that fight.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Nightmare said that, ODAMNHEGOTCAUGHT

Sylvia smashed Cabbage, Arlovski, Ricco who at the time were great and you and I who wtached MA/UFC/PRIDE whatever at that point wouldn’t dispute that. You can only beat the men around you. You can’t take the limitations of what MA was then and compare what we have now.

The actual sport of MA didn’ts tart in 1993, it hasn’t even become a sport. Until guys traiin MMA it is still a melting pot of styles. MA for me started when Maurice Smith and Frank Shamrock started together around 1996.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

MMA not MA and by syaing it is not a sport because in a lot of ways we still have style vs style.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

ok i guess we can agree to disagree .. but i mean we are only talking about a span of like 5 years .. not 40 or even 10 .. i am saying that if timmay and andrie were in pride when they pride roster was better then they would not of been considered all that good at all .. and i think that once pride folded if fedor would of came to the ufc instead of affliction then strikeforce he would of lost sooner then he did .. thats really alll i am saying .. all of this me comparing us military from the 40s to the 200s .. is stupid and ignorant … we are talking about 3-5 years ..

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by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

In PRIDE they both would've been top guys imo

No one was going to beat Fedor but they could’ve been in a couple title fights.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

ok .. i dont think they would of beat cro crop or big nog or fedor .. yes they would beat hunt,randleman,goodridge.. but i think coleman would of done to timmay the same thing randy did .. drag him down and pound him out .. i mean i could be wrong its just what i think ..

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by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Coleman could've done it

Randy spent the entire round in rd 3 tooling Tim on the feet. It was the overhand right at the beginning and the striking throughout that set up all his TD’s.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

different types of fighters, randy was a better striker and faster

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

true

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by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d take Tim and Andrei over Werdum, Alex Emelianenko, James Thompson, Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman, Ken Shamrock, Don Fye, Hong Mon Choi, Zuluzhino, Dan Bobish and that leaves us with Josh Barnett, Mirko Cro Cop, Antonio Rodrigo and Fedor.

They be top 5-7 of the guys i named. Not bad and that’s based upon an idea.

Agree/Disagree>

Dana White also fails to mention Frank Mir was in that era, You don’t think Mir would do fine against the same guys and maybe ven get into the top 3 past a mixture of Cro Cop/Nog/Barnett? and based on what we know of Mir he beat Nog twice and beat Cro Cop (ended them in each fight) which in a true talent exchange makes him the number two.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the mir that won the title no .. i think mir that beat big nog and had imroved striking yes ..

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by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

he also broke his arm like he was capable of at all times. Both Nog and Mir’s striking improved.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well... lets be honest here

Mir got CC and Nog years past their primes.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

ok i can agree with that

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by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes but if were jumping eras, level of fighters. Gotta remember that the way you got in the UFC was different than. Also the fighters today have teh fortunes of research and wtaching the errors of these guys.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually agree with you on that

MMA was not a competetive sport when it first started, it was just an excuse for the Gracies to showcase BJJ against a bunch of clueless inside a cage to appeal to the lowest common denominator. In Japan initially the sport was fixed and was effectively pro wrestling.

Shamrock and Smith were the pioneers who really took cross-training seriously, created a legitimate camp in the Lion’s Den (those 2 had a much bigger part in that camp’s success than Ken in my opinion) and became legitimate mixed martial artists who could do everything in the cage. Frank was so far ahead of his time that he had nobody left to fight as champion which is why he quit in his prime.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
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by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

eh his spot on blind date kinda did that for him

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by theoregonduck on Feb 16, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea that was pretty bad

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

hes a total goofball,

thats his problem. even if he could come in and beat a couple of guys no one wants to see him.

by HEELHOOK on Feb 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I still thought that he came off better than his date on that show

He’s a professional athlete so he shouldn’t have been drinking much in the first place. It was the bimbo that he was with who kept pushing him to get drunk, she came across as an alcoholic slag on that show.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
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by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim was beast back in his day.

He was knocking out everybody. Once he ran outta competition he got fat lazy unmotivated. Hasn’t been the same ever since.

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Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds

by d*locc on Feb 16, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Danas right.

Him getting ktfo by ray mercer ruined anything i couldve have ever had for sylvia. Not the ufc, OR strikeforce for that matter. He has a name however that low caliber promotions would love to promote.

by dragonassault on Feb 16, 2012 10:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

the whole 80 percent thing tim said is way off

But if tim committed himself to the sport I’m sure he could beat some of the HW’s in the ufc

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by letter19 on Feb 16, 2012 11:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

hell yea

big poopie did kill telligman…

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by ClinchKing on Feb 16, 2012 11:08 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

"I have no beef with Tim Sylvia whatsoever, I have nothing against the guy,"

Yes you do, dana,why lie about it. Always acting like a friggin scorned girlfriend, and still tries to deny it.

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by salamagogo on Feb 16, 2012 11:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

watch out!!

There’s people like Freenow around who still believe Dana has never made a mistake or said anything that was a lie.

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by daniel worby on Feb 16, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim shouldn't have left to fight Fedor that was a retard move

Yea he made 800k but if he stayed with the UFC he could’ve made a lot more than that as a gate keeper.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

and theres a repetitive sally above that thinks the same

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by daniel worby on Feb 16, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

hmmm you got a thing for sally?

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

You name one damned thing wrong with Sally Kirkland right NOW!!!

Go for it!!! I’m waiting!!!….

That’s what I thought.

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by daniel worby on Feb 16, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

you like Ms. Struthers don't you?

She makes you randy doesn’t she??!?

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

well duhhhhh

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by daniel worby on Feb 16, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd Do Her

Not ideal, but quite doable, oral don’t seem too bad neither with that nice hair she has, I think she could give a good one too.

by sz87 on Feb 16, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

make more than 800K plus what other bonuses dough he made? prolly not. He didn’t get much other than his pay/win bonus in the UFC due to not being a huge draw. His numbers from his one TV fight with Assuerio Silva sunk his boat.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

All it would take is a couple bonus's

+ figure how much he’s making now. At least with the UFC he’d have had consistent cash flow comin in, I bet he doesn’t make anywhere near what he was making in the UFC now. He got that one huge pay day and then it was all down hill from there.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

He was on his decline, he knows it. He made one last huge payday. He doesn’t fight these days for money only. He loves the sport.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he's fighting for money only

If he loved the sport he wouldn’t come in at 300+ totally out of shape lbs.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

He doesn’t care to train as much which is fine, he knows where he is at. He makes good money, trains people here and there. He is set for life. He may do some fighting and wrestling for a few extra bucks but he doesn’t need it.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

and theres a repetitive sally below that thinks the same

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by daniel worby on Feb 16, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

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by daniel worby on Feb 16, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The weakest they ever had? what kind of dumb coment is that to even spew?
It was very strong than, that was where the UFC heavyweight was at. Arlovski was good, Tim Sylvia was good and it was a drop off. People act like if the UFC/Pride were one during that time that Arlovski and Sylvia would be eaten, they may never ahve been chmapion but they’d sure hold their own.

Does anyone really no how fucking hard it is to be a legit heavyweight?. Most of the guys who start off at heavyweight shed weight as they train and eat better.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

It Ain’t About Where Your From But Where Your Going…Bottom Line_______ Sylvia & Fedor Both Suck!

by djadamfm on Feb 16, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

Everyone is going to die so everyone sucks...

Where you’re going doesn’t matter as much as what you leave behind.

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by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

you are a genuis.

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

by Eggplant Parm on Feb 16, 2012 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

He should wheel that out to the cage next time he's got a fight

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

i’d understand the hate if Tim did the sport wrong or something but you guys are so mean. Funny story, Jens Pulver use to be his biggets bully when he started.

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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 16, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao

Jens was a bad ass, I believe it.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Feb 16, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

its true i just hate his face for no reason ..

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard that to

Poor Tim was the bully victim of MFS.

Always a Nick Diaz fan, losing a close fight to Carlos Condit does not mean that you were overrated. And utilising a smart strategy to win a fight does not mean that you're scared.
Mania misses dakatak.

by David W-S on Feb 16, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

lmao

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim

He needs to get into shape, and the losses to Wagner and Mercer especially, look terrible. He also hasn’t beat anyone of real significance to warrant a return to the UFC.

The guy though is an outstanding fighter, particularly in a thin division.

If White doesn’t want to bring him to the UFC, why not see what he can bring to Strikeforce to prove his merit and generate some buzz on fights on Showtime. A fight between Tim and Kharitonov would be entertaining. You could have him potentially fight Barnett. I think the best bet to sign him though is Bellator – put him right in there vs Cole Konrad, if he can win some fights there, then maybe he gets a shot. If Konrad beats him, then you are developing a new star in MMA with a win over a notable name.

by RJK256 on Feb 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

the strikeforce heavyweight divison is going bye bye after the tournament ..

So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..

by Nightmare83 on Feb 16, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they move Cormier in, SIlva, and Gracie, but Barnett may not and theres some other guys over there, it may be contingent to SF on showtime that they have a HW division

Always Bellator

by RJK256 on Feb 16, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

DID HE NOT GIVE PHIL SCRUBONI ANOTHER CHANCE?

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by In Rainbows on Feb 18, 2012 1:31 AM EST reply actions  


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