Chael Sonnen still has not officially been offered Anderson Silva rematch
by Geno Mrosko on Feb 15, 2012 2:30 PM EST
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One of the biggest rematches in the history of the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen for the middleweight title, is supposed to go down in June in Brazil.
Or at least that's what UFC President Dana White said.
Sonnen, however, is singing a different tune, at least in the official sense. He says he hasn't actually been offered the fight, though he's proceeding as if it's going to happen:
"I have not even been offered the fight. I've read in the media that I'm going to have the fight. I'm telling people that I have the fight, but the reality is I've never been offered it."
Unofficial fight is unofficial. Got it.
"The Spider," meanwhile, is approaching this with the same attitude, albeit for differing reasons. His opinion is that Sonnen doesn't even deserve the rematch but after all the garbage he's spewed, he's ready to get inside the Octagon and settle it once and for all.
"In my opinion, Chael doesn't deserve a rematch, but I'm ready for this fight," Silva told the LA Times. "I'll go back to my home, with my family, remembering Chael disrespects the people of Brazil, and start my focus on this fight."
The first meeting between these two elite middleweights took place all the way back in Aug. 2010 in Oakland, Calif., at UFC 117, a five-round classic that saw Sonnen back up his big talk by beating down the champion for four and a half rounds.
Then he got caught in a triangle/armbar submission and was forced to tap with just minutes remaining.
The thrilling finish had fans the world over clamoring for a rematch to see if Sonnen could finish what he started. Silva, feeling as though the result was definitive, wasn't on board with said plan. Outside problems -- like failed drug tests, money laundering and the link -- got in the way but that's all been settled now.
And we can finally see the end of one of the best feuds in UFC history.
You know, whenever they get around to sending out contracts, signing on the dotted line, crossing the t's and dotting the i's, to make it officially official.
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The reality is: If after TUF Brazil Vitor beats Wanderlei, him vs AS will be a much bigger fight in Brazil, since Vitor is by far the biggest star there.
I wouldn’t be crazy surprised if Sonnen didn’t get the fight.
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vitor just got knocked out by AS. it would be stupid to have him rematch anderson after the last fight. sonnen should def get the fight but i can see anderson knocking him out he's looked really good his last couple fights
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
by Burlzilla129 on Feb 15, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Neither SOnnen nor Silva have a chance anyways. It's all just about who will bring better numbers and make MMA explode in Brazil.
Sonnen was on Steroids and still got finished. He barely squeaked by Bisping when he wasn’t all roided up.
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you're crazy
I’m sure Brazil will be thrilled to be able to root hard for there man Silva against someone they probably hate in Sonnen. Also, even if that weren’t the case, the difference would be more than offset by PPV numbers elsewhere. Many more people would pay to see Sonnen rather than Belfort against Silva.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
1 PPV is nothing compared to an MMA explosion in such a massive market that is already underway.
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1st off,
I think there’s already an mma market there. 2nd, I still think you’re missing the point. Would you rather watch 2 fighters you loved facing off or 1 fighter you love against 1 fighter you hate? Vast majority would go with the latter, I think. Silva’s already fought both of them. Belfort’s match was not only more recent, but it didn’t compare to the competitive level of Sonnen’s match. Sorry, but you’re crazy, man.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
Nice rant, but no dice. Silva/Belfort 2 would be 100x bigger in Brazil than Silva/Sonnen 2
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UFC is all about the $,
so let’s see who’s right by the way it plays out. Sig bet……..if it’s Sonnen, I win…..Belfort, you win? 2 weeks?
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
sonnen obviously.
thinking otherwise is just crazy talk. belfort got ktfo by silva, chael dominated for 4 1/2 rounds. also, people in brazil would much rather watch a national hero in silva fight an american than one of their own, they have so much pride in their country and the sport. silva said it himself, he doesnt like brazilians fighting each other and was disrespected by belfort taking the fight. the money, and the people, would much rather see the sonnen rematch. Im with you here all the way.
"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.
"GSP is me."
by El Pablo Diablo on Feb 15, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Belfort is scheduled to fight Wanderlei in the summer, so I'm not gonna take the bet.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was on the same card even.
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thatd be a sick card.
"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.
"GSP is me."
by El Pablo Diablo on Feb 15, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
It would be, but I like Wanderlei too much and don't like Belfort at all, so I don't want that fight to happen.
Wandy is way past his prime and Vitor would brutalize him.
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That's what I thought
UFC wouldn’t throw away an opportunity half as what you’re making it seem like. You’re simply WAY off, that’s all.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
nor me Silva obviously doesnt want it
and hes been mentioning GSP again
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
no honestly,its fresh interview
ill see if i can dig it out
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
its on ESPN
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Tough to see that happening anytime soon.
GSP has several options at WW, including Condit, Ellenberger, Diaz, & Hendricks.
Silva can fight Sonnen, Munoz, & Bisping at MW. And Silva could always start fighting LHWs again.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
Fitch clearly won round 2 and the fight against Penn
Sonnen clearly won round 1 and the fight against Bisping
sonnen is just being sonnen
silva vs sonnen is happening
if Sonnen were smart he would turn it down
cause with out his steroids he isn’t getting out of the second round
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
He might not even get a single takedown without his courage in a needle
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reaching much?
he got and kept Bis down in the 3rd easy enough and Silvas tdd is shit!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Bisping has 0 power and is no danger, so he could try whatever he wants, without fear of getting hurt
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and you really think Sonnen is scared of Silvas power/
didnt look like that in the 1st fight
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Dude, really? Do people have such short term memory? He was on STEROIDS, Hulk-Smash-Amounts of them!
He will be extremely lucky if he gets out of the first round and sqeak into the second this time to be brutally finished.
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same thing
he was over the limit by a ridiculous amount.
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
No, our bodies already make testesterone. Sonnen is treated medically for low counts of it, he then takes TRT treatment to have normal levels of it. It is not steroids.
KingLujan:
he then takes TRT treatment to have normal levels of it. It is not steroids.
Wikipedia:
Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group
Thanks for playing.
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It isnt steroids in the way you are implying. When talking of the usage of steroids what Chael is using is not putting something unnatural in his body instead just enhancing what we already have naturally in there
see man you're missing the point
it’s not the steroids in the way that steroids are steroids, it’s steroids in the way that steroids are not steroids that are testosterone that are steroids that aren’t steroids. wait…..WHAT?!
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by theoregonduck on Feb 15, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
He actually wasnt that much over the normal level of testesterone levels. It is an exxageration to say it really effected his power all that much
he was wayyyyy over, hulk levels is putting it mildly
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If you watched the commission hearing you hear them say that the T/E was 4x but the levels were normal. In the average male, the T/E ratio is 1:1 as both are equally produced. Testing bodies allow for a variance of up to a 4:1 ratio due to a variety of natural factors causing elevated testosterone levels.
he was at 16.9:1 or so
someone posted the link the other. Either way, i don’t care. Silva will always have shitty takedown defense and sonnen will always have superb chain wrestling.
this fight is definitely winnable for sonnen. Silva can be on all the painkillers he wants and sonnen can be on all the testosterone he wants, as this fight will be sanctioned by the ufc indepently and no one will bat an eye.
if this evens the playing field, i’m all for it
pride never die.
Free I agree... also Silva had a broken rib at time of the fight
or so he or Ed said afterwards… ( I myself dont believe this ) but its what is reported, but i think AS will easily dispose of Sonnen.. I still think Bisping won that fight!
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he will be unconscious by the third in this fight
Silva has a point to prove
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
yup. agree completely.
the rematch will not go down anything like the first fight. but ill still be paying big bucks to watch it. hells yeah.
"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.
"GSP is me."
by El Pablo Diablo on Feb 15, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, right? silva will somehow manage to learn tdd in a few months
pride never die.
yeah Chael dont need anythign extra to takedown SIlva
if Silva beats him, it will be in the 4th or 5th, but Chael will take him down at will at the start of this one
cmon stop swinging
Chael takes Silva down whenevr he wants
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
whats up with nutswingers today?
frees all over Silvas,ridiculously saying Chael wont be able to take him down and weve got p123 on the other thread all over overeems that much theres no salt left on them! mania sure is weird today!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
take him down yes
control him, I don’t think so. Not without his TRT
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
and who says he will not be on trt?
who’s gonna sanction the fight? isn’t it clear why the last silva fight was over there after being on painkillers? isn’t it obvious why this fight is taking place there?
it’s zuffa playing to their best interests
pride never die.
im just messing man just leave some room thats all
david WS will be in shortly
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Working from home all day and really hungry cause i'm too lazy to cook food or go get some
Then this thread came along and those delicious salty nuts were too good to pass up.
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It’s more about the shocking uneducated posters on that thread than me being biased. You guys swing on any dick that has a belt. Just some people who don’t know anything about fighting really. Which is why I’m trying to help out and offer more realistic options. This isn’t some video game.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
we don't need your kind here. Go back to Bloody Elbow and talk about cat love.
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Chael looked like shit in his last fight. Better not come to fight like that again or he will eat shit
by slick n the wind on Feb 15, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions
Didn't Look Like Shit
Looked more evenly matched vs Bisping. Know the difference.
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by G Squat on Feb 15, 2012 3:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought physically he looked weaker in that match
than I can remember him appearing previously
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Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
'cause he got hit solid by bisping?
and because, contrary to popular belief, not all british fighters have shit tdd?
pride never die.
You must be a Bisping fan.....Its cool...... If he would have fought Brain S Like that Brain would have won that fight. Chael was off is game. If you can't see that or did not see that watch it again and then see his last fights.
by slick n the wind on Feb 15, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Bisping is just way better than Brian Stann. Stann has 0 ground game and looked like a fish out of water on the ground.
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Sonnen-Silva II will definitely happen
It will be made official within the next few weeks I think
by Tommy Shenanigans on Feb 15, 2012 2:58 PM EST reply actions
Doesn't matter, Sonnen is gonna lose..and him and Bisping are gonna rematch in England in December
5 rounds
I already heard about it
hella need not site things
he has the gift of foresight. you’re here so i’ll give you a pass this time
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by theoregonduck on Feb 15, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty disrespectful of the UFC
to not formally offer it to him before they announce it.
Of course, half of what comes out of Sonnen’s mouth is BS, but I believe him in this case.
half?
closer to 99%
"Here we are with Seraldo Babalu, you did an awesome job, saw why you’re a black belt in jiu-jitsu, getting an awesome submission there, I want to tell me what you see, let’s go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito (the Head) Ortiz - Great Commentator, or Greatest Commentator.
"GSP is me."
by El Pablo Diablo on Feb 15, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t care whether he lies or tells the truth.He has the skill set and the attitude to defeat silva and millions of people will be watching to see
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by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No he doesn't, but yes people will be watching him get destroyed.
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by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
keep saying what you want to see happen maybe it will come true
Don’t know who will win the fight (don’t care either) but people know exactly what sonnen wants to do and the most interesting part of the fight will be how silva deals with that constant pressure
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by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol good thing you don't care enough to comment here
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Dont care who wins..I'm not into cheering for other fighters
I want to be entertained.So its obvious I care about the fight.
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by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like...
A typical bully finally getting hit in the mouth never to be the same again. Silva was never threatened in any of his fights until Sonnen beat him down for 4 1/2 rounds. Now, he is scared to fight him again.
in other news, Chael Sonnen is champion and has the belt. I saw a video where he said that.
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Wow ...
This thread is mind boggling
bloody queef bubble
by wooly shambler on Feb 15, 2012 3:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
People need to stop being so black and white
First off, sonnen did not test positive for steroids
Any explanation otherwise is just your creative imagination
So while he was high on TRT levels, he still beat up AS for 4.5 rounds pretty good
Im not saying he is going to win, but acting like that TRT is the difference between sonnen winning for 4.5 rounds and him not landing a single Takedown is stupid
Also, styles make fights.
Bisping: great TDD defense, solid standup, not powerful though, average BJJ
Sonnen: solid standup as well, Great wrestling shit BJJ defense
AS: Spectacular standup, shit TDD, great BJJ
In my opinion bisping is a tough fight for sonnen, while no match for AS
Sonnen is a tough match for AS, and him and bisping fighting is a pretty close fight
Theres no one definitive answer for everthing, but saying sonnen looked like shit in his last fight is ridiculous, what did bisping look like then? Everyone just sitback and lets see what happens
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by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 15, 2012 4:33 PM EST reply actions
Silva’s reluctance to fight Chael says a lot about him.
1. He claimed to be injured – so fight him healthy to prove the 1st fight was a fluke
2. Chael DOMINATED you for 4.5 rounds – if you think you’re better fighter, prove it
3. Be a man like Condit, there were doubts about the decision, he asked for a rematch.
I was just commenting about your 3rd statement
There was no controversy because it didn’t go to decision, why fight somebody you already beat
there were doubts about who the better fighter was.....that's why he should man up
I want to see who is actually better….I know Silva won…..
yep. same response
He won. He’s better. Give me something
by HimLong on Feb 15, 2012 5:57 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yup Anderson beat him, I don’t see why people say he deserves a rematch because of that fight. Now use the argument of him winning his last two fights and maybe you have an argument. Truth is Anderson should just retire, after beating everyone and especially killing okami in Brazil the guy to last beat him that was just a perfect ending to a great career.
by zesotheclown on Feb 15, 2012 5:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's simple to say Silva won = no rematch
all I’m saying is after the fight…..you cannot clearly say Silva was th better fighter…I know he won the fight
great debate
He won. He’s better
by HimLong on Feb 15, 2012 5:55 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
damn it!!!!
Got sucked in by a troller
by HimLong on Feb 15, 2012 6:05 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
IF/WHEN there is a 2nd fight
I hope there is less cheating. No steroids, no spending whole rounds gouging eyes. Go back and watch the 2nd round of the 1st fight. Sonnen put his fingers in Anderson’s eyes 30+ times, not to mention raking the tape over the eyes numerous times as well. The ref needs to pay attention, and the commission needs to test.
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