Alistair Overeem: 'I already know how to beat Junior dos Santos'
by Jesse Holland on Feb 15, 2012 1:03 PM EST
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Sounds like "The Reem" has been doing his homework.
Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) heavyweight number one contender Alistair Overeem, who battles division champion Junior dos Santos at UFC 146 over the Memorial Day Weekend in Las Vegas, Nevada, already has a plan for taking care of "Cigano" on fight night.
From MMA Fight Corner (via Cagewriter):
"The gameplan is already good to go. I already know how to beat him. It's just a matter of training and getting my body and mind in the 100 percent condition it needs to be in."
Overeem, who recently signed with Authentic Management Group, will probably want to stay away from "Sin City" casinos and Dutch fight camps if he wants his mind to be in "100-percent condition."
Overeem has been crushing the competition for years now, compiling 11 wins in 12 fights (one no contest) since 2007. He made a successful debut with the UFC last December by stopping (and retiring) Brock Lesnar in the first round by way of technical knockout (TKO) using his vaunted K-1 level striking.
Dos Santos, no different than Overeem, has been absolutely destroying his competition. In fact, just like "Demolition Man," he hasn't lost a fight since 2007, the lone defeat of his career.
However, unlike "The Reem," the Brazilian bomber has been running through top competition inside the Octagon. He's 8-0 under the UFC banner with five knockouts, including his 64-second destruction of Cain Velasquez that earned him the heavyweight strap.
Time to find out which of these monsters is the true king of the heavyweights.
Who ya' got?
Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for more information on the upcoming UFC 146 fight card as it becomes available.
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I think we're all in for a surprise here
Overeem is by far the best and hardest hitting striker jds has ever faced
bloody queef bubble
by wooly shambler on Feb 15, 2012 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed Wooly. Overeem is leaps and bounds above anyone JDS ever fought.
And JDS is no Badr Hari.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
youve never mentioned badr hari before
What impact do you think overeems fights with him will have on this fight?
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
I think jds is set on using his speed here which is the smartest thing to do .
Nothing in this fight tells me that he wants to go for a takedown , therefore as a winging puncher who seldom throws straight punches or strikes he is much like badr hari in his stand up and overeem has beaten hari once and been “tkod” by hari once . Hari hits harder and faster than jds so in my eyes overeem is in a good spot to stand with junior because he’s not going to fight fire with fire . Where as junior with be closing in and circling looking to throw combos overeem will have a power shot cocked and loaded to land hard and suddenly on junior which can end juniors reign in an instant especially with mma gloves .
bloody queef bubble
by wooly shambler on Feb 15, 2012 1:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Overeem’s knees are what you have to look out for though. He friggin lifted Todd Duffee off the ground with a knee and took his soul. That was brutal. His knees on Brock were brutal too. Overeem will be twice as strong as JDS, he better fight cautiously in the first couple rounds.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
Exactly, overeem just wants to land that one power shot.
Junior is going to be landing combos on his chin all day. Junior can take a shot, we’ve seen that. With mma gloves, clean to his face against Cro cop, carwin and Nelson. We’ve seen overeem rocked and dropped with huge boxing gloves.
Overeem has no footwork. His K-1 days (even tho I love K-1 just as much as everyone else) are going to be his demise. Just like in K-1, he’s going to walk strait forward, look for that power shot and junior Is going to counter clean on overeem.
You are going to see overeem get exposed. But in my opinion, junior is the only one that will be able to do it. He has the speed, power, footwork, an chin. Everyone, I think Reem tears apart but he is going to be in for a big surprise when he starts to trade with Cigano.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 2:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So, how is this going to be different than a K1 match if both fighters are just going to stand and strike? You are basically saying that JDS would have won that K-1 Grand Prix thing if he had entered, right?
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
Not at all. Read below,
I said, in a K-1 match, Reem wins. In the octagon, junior knocks his head off and he will. I’m not an idiot, comparing the two is irrelevant. It doesn’t need to come up.
Even tho both fighters love to stand, you still have to worry about all other aspects. It’s a fact. Every kickboxer that comes over to mma fights differently. So does Reem. We’ve seen Reem in mma matches where his stand-up looks sub-par. We’ve seen him get beat on the feet in mma. We’ve seen how his K-1 style has gotten him in trouble in mma matches. It’s TOTALLY different!
Junior is the perfect opponent to expose those holes, an he will. Make sure you’re watching.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no i would say the opposite
reem fights exactly the same in mma as he does in k1 thats why hes gonna be in trouble against JDS
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Both of you are completely wrong
K-1 match favors Dos Santos. In K-1 rules you can’t clinch up the way you can in the UFC. You can only try to get a knee off with one arm on the guy. Now go watch Reem vs. Duffy, Reem vs. Lesnar, Reem vs. Rogers, and note how Reem’s clinch brought him the victory.
So your basing your POV on one fight where the guy literally did his best not to fight? Lol worthy indeed,
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You obviously didn't read the whole conversation.
Not at all basing my POV of of one fight. Again, great with the assumptions.
I was trolling the guy who is using stupid mma math and keeps posting, watch this fight, watch that fight, when neither have him fighting JDS. It was a sarcastic post to his. You obviously didn’t catch it. You use dumb mma math, I use dumb mma math. Fair?
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ageed Overeem is much more dangerous in MMA than he is in K-1.
JDS has a better chance at beating Reem in K-1 than he does in MMA.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but most all those fights where overeems stand up looked sub par were against guys with ground game(werdum) and was worried about take downs. not in this 1. gonna b sick, jds definitely has a great chance to ko reem but I think this will b reems real coming out party beating jds will put most doubters to rest
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by FarNorCal on Feb 15, 2012 3:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
JDS is better off in a K-1 match with Alistair. Alistair is a much stronger , more experienced grappler with legit submissions.
JDS ground game is based off of the reputation of his mentor, we haven’t seen hardly any of it. Doesn’t mean he sucks, but I’ll take the experienced , stronger grappler over a question mark all day.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yh but the reems sub game has changed since he bulked up
sure hes gonna have crushing chokes but u seriously think hes gonna be able to start throwing stuff from his back cmon man.hes not gonna have any fluidity at this size
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
He can absolutely tap JDS. There just two different levels of strength here. And yes I would expect it to be by gullitone. I agree with the fluidity and stuff.
Point being, JDS doesn’t want to grapple with Overeem for any extended period. He almost got his neck squashed by Carwin, an inexperienced BJJ guy.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
of course he CAN tap jds … you CAN drive with your feet .. that dont make it a good fucking idea …
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
Dude you are vastly overrating JDS unknown submission prowess. If JDS gets caught in a gullitone it’s nighty night.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you're over estimating Reems submission game
he has a very nice standing guillotine, but that’s about it against any half decent grappler
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Junior is going to be landing combos on his chin all day.
I really don’t think so the only guy jds has picked apart that I think was considered a top heavy was carwin and to me he is not a good striker he is too slow and predictable, also jds doesn’t really seem like a fighter that picks you apart he just makes you pay for your mistakes. Jds dosen’t have the size advantage and to me he was struggling with cain’s kickboxing as bad as cain looked I thought he was giving jds problems still. Jds doesn’t really have footwork but he’s always in position to throw but I wouldn’t say he has foot work. I really think jds will be exposed I haven’t been impressed by any of his victories other than his victory over cain who is the only exceptional fighter that he has beaten. I’m sticking with overeem he has fought way better opostion everyone jds has faced are more subpar than what overeem has faced with the exception of cain but he only stunned cain with a shot and it took him like 10 more punches to finally make the ref step in but I really think this had more to do with cain’s inexperience on how to survive so he was exposed. I’m personally waiting for someone to expose jds for his lack of defense and the fact that he never sets up body shots I thought cain exposed that a little and the fact that he is too one dimensional if jds fought someone who can use his hands and has defense he would probably lose. I like jds but overeem dosen’t have to hit him in the chin I think after the cain/jds fight overeem just has to catch him to the side of the head or maybe a liver kick perhaps. I think jds could beat overeem but I see overeem finding a way to tko jds like he did to rogers and lesnar or maybe submit him like he did james thompson.
I’m not super aware of all that is K-1 but it has to be mentioned at least. I’m still learning , but god damn the majority never even heard of the guy.
The last two times I’ve seen Reem nervous in the last 5 years was against Badr.
Reem has crazy confidence , he just doesn’t rattle anymore except for those two fights with Badr.
That experience against such an elite guy could play a big part.
JDS is similar in his uber confidence as well.
Doesn’t mean one will win or not, but these guys who only know MMA and don’t know anything about K-1 are all acting like lol Reem ain’t nothing when they have no idea.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 2:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ok anyone saying Reem is nothing is stupid.
I can see why you brought up hari for that but not for that meaning he’ll beat JDS.
Like I said, I think Reem beats everyone in the HW division not named junior. Junior is the one man that has the right skill-set to beat him. Better footwork, just as powerful, but the biggest thing, he’s faster. Watch how big of a difference speed makes. Reem is always the faster striker, he’s not goin to be in this fight.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In K-1 Reem was generally never the fastest striker. He’s calm , cool and collected and picks his shots wisely. More like a sniper than a machine gunner.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Like I said below
watch Reem vs. Spong. When he wants to be fast, he’s fast.
You are correct. And that is why I think junior will win.
Reem does like to stay calm and pick his shots. The time he takes to pick his shot is all te time junior needs to size him up, gauge the distance and explode. I really don’t think Reem is goin to have the time to set up that one shot. I really don’t.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Watch Reem vs. Rogers, Reem vs. Spong (K-1)
and tell me JDS is faster. Reem doesn’t go all in with speed when he’s fighting ground fighters because he’s watching for the takedown.
badr can kick
Overeem will destroy jds. He will jab , clinch , knee until jds is ktfo . Overeem will not let jds tee off . Reem tko 1st round. One clinch and its over
by William Thackeray on Feb 15, 2012 5:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Badr Hari
also got subbed by a front choke.
This is MMA, not K-1 and JDS is not Brock Lesnar.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
it was actually a forearm choke? haha
like bob sapp applied to some dude about 200lbs lighter than him lollll
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
sorry that's what i meant
he was choked from the front haha
that’s like some schoolyard shit.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
same goes for reem .. jds is his best .. but i think carwin hits harder then reem ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
I would agree, Carwin hits harder than pretty much anyone in MMA. Does Carwin hit harder than Reem Knees and kicks though? I don’t think so.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
i mean i see your point and i think reem is a beast .. but imo jds is what fedor should of been … i mean this guy hasnt even been tested really .. and he has fought top guys .. and top guys in a row at that .. no cans
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
werdum was suppose to beat him for a title shot , cro cop as on a roll before him , struve was the up and commer, gonzaga was suppose to give him gits with his jits , carwin was suppose to ground and pound him , cain was suppose to be the best heavy ever taking the torch from fedor .. his mma wins greatly exceed those of reem .. and reem has been kod before by chuck who yes he was the ice man .. but im sure not even in his prime hit has hard as jds ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
I think Werdum would be a much better fight for JDS if they fought again. Werdum took the newcomer lightly methinks. Now Werdum has the advantage of lots of JDS film to study, plus Werdum’s striking has really improved greatly since then. I would still give and edge to Werdum, but he is better than most people will give him credit for.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
you would still give the edge to Werdum?? or do you mean Junior?
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
Junior would have the edge. I think Werdum would be a live dog though. His MT has been looking better and better. Werdum really controlled Nelson and beat him up much worse than JDS did. JDS took a few really hard shots from Nelson and Werdum pretty much was unscathed. Not saying Werdum’s striking is as good as JDS’s but I think it could be much closer standing than people realize.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
i respect your take .. and i can see what your saying .. but i would still take jds over werdum .. especially if hes just gonna do what he did against reem and fall to his butt .. he would lose my decs
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
Werdum's stand-up has improved alot and I'm looking forward to seeing him fight again
and I’m sure he didn’t know what he was getting into when he first fought Junior. I remember watching that card, and before the fight they were showing Junior hitting the mitts and I said this guys gonna knock him out. I had never seen Junior before.
But Junior is on another level. His hands are lethal: has power and technique, great footwork.
Remember, Werdum’s damage against Nelson was done with the knees to a much shorter opponent. It wont work with Junior.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
Striking i'd give jds way more than just an edge over werdum.
But i kinda agree that if werdum and junior were to rematch, werdum would be a tougher contest for jds.
by dragonassault on Feb 15, 2012 2:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah, I agree
Werdum might make it to the 2nd round in a rematch.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
JDS took a few really hard shots from Nelson and Werdum pretty much was unscathed
I think werdum learns from his mistakes and submits dos santos but that’s just my opinion.
his mma wins greatly exceed those of reem
I think your reading too much into his victories I for sure think he’s one of the best but cain is the only good fighter jds has beaten and the only guy that could actually strike in my opinion. Like I said jds he makes people pay for their mistakes and if overeem makes one then for sure jds will make him pay, but I think for a guy like jds to be considered the best striker is saying too much he for sure has flaws that he gets away with he throws the same strikes too. I think his power is just like anyone else he looks like a beast and he flattens people only because they make stupid mistakes as long as overeem dosen’t get stupid he should beat jds in the 1st round.
but im sure not even in his prime hit has hard as jds
i think jds hits as hard as anyone else and you guys say the same thing that people said about cain how he was going to hold the belt for a long time this and that I really think overeem will beat him.
I think Juiced Carwin hits the hardest. Reem hits harder than that pathetic version of Carwin that JDS beat.
But hard hitting means nothing when you have average boxing skills.
Overeem is an elite striker with elite power, Carwin doesn’t compare to that at all.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know Nightmare. Fighting Badr in K-1 is a bigger deal than fighting JDS in MMA.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and 1st prize for the most and uneccessary mentions of badr hari goes to.......
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
....Badr Hari
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
lol manias sure been funny today!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
sorry reem but you are not beating jds .. jds is gonna hit you harder then chuck did when he knocked you out .. this is not brock,rodgers,werdum or the cans you beat in other countries .. this is your toughest test ..your greatest challegne(holy shit i sound like gsp) … jds will do to you what he did to cain,werdum,cro cop .. he will hit you so hard you will forget where you are..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
Dude Overeems chin has gotten much better.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ur chin is what it is
dont care how much milk u drink
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 1:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nope, your chin can actually improve. And no I don’t mean your actual chin, but your ability to take a shot can improve. Overeem’s has improved.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
chin or comfort in the pocket?
ppl get more comfortable in exchanges, + theyre ability to eat a punch and not feetle up and get tkod. but as far as how much u can take b4 your body shuts off stays the same. he got stop by punchs in k1 with gloves. actually could get worse, evident with chuck
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No I mean actual ability in taking a punch.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
K-1 gloves
entails K-1 strikers! You take a punch from Badr Hari with 3 pillows attached to each of his hands, and you’re still going down!
when he got stopped by hari he didn’t even go down he just stood there from a body shot 2. wasn’t like he got put to sleep
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by FarNorCal on Feb 15, 2012 3:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
YES!
Been saying this for literally years on mania. Your chin has just as much to do with it’s physical structure as it does about your head movement and your mental ability to take a shot and not freak out and stay calm.
\m/
by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 15, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
his chin may have gotten better .. but thats what people said about cain after the congo fight and look what happened .. im sorry but jds hits HARD … very hard … thats what she said … but as much as i like reem and i think these two monster will be awesome .. but i see him as number 2 at hw behind jds .. i know he keeps his hands low so there is always a chance reem kicks him in the head .. but i think jds will knock his dome off.
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
-1
That JDS ko of Cain was a shot behind the ear, any man would have fallen from that, I don’t judge his chin lower after that fight.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 15, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Reem doesn’t do a lot of head kicks. Reem is going to devastate JDS with knees. I am wondering if this is going to the mat. I can see JDS practicing takedowns in the case that the striking doesn’t go as well as he planned. Reem’s knees will destroy, and his punches are vicious. JDS will need to take this into deeper rounds to win. Reem will be much less dangerous in the third round onward. If JDS can get to the third round, I think his chances get much better.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
Reem must be salivating at the thought of JDS lead leg being out there.
From a distance , JDS is fucked. Leg kick city. From close he’s super fucked, Clinch of Doom. And heck he’s fucked if he wants to play the BJJ game as well.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
JDS will most likely try to use speed and footwork to avoid damage for the first couple rounds, picking his spots. If the fight goes to later rounds, I think JDS will have an advantage there for sure. Reem is not known for cardio. I would not be surprised to see JDS do some “frankie edgar” takedowns to disrupt Reem’s striking.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
I don't think Cain got hit in the chin by JDS if memory serves me right.
You know it is just a fact of combat sports. If you get his flush hard enough (most people) will go down regardless of your physical chin. BUT you are way less likely to take a flush shot and more likely that if your opponent throws a bomb at you that you won’t get knocked out if you have good footwork and head movement.
\m/
by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 15, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
but thats what people said about cain after the congo fight and look what happened
I think cain has a great ability to take a shot I don’t really see anyone else that can take shots like he does jds took a good cro cop kick but cro cop hadn’t been doing very well. i don’t think anyone ever implied that cain’s chin got better i think his striking got better but his mistakes against jds were amaturish and they are mistakes he can learn from, also overeem just needs to knee or kick jds to the side of the head or maybe throw a liver kick to stop jds I don’t think he needs to go for the chin, also overeem will have like 40+ pounds on jds I think that will help him absorb shots jds weighs about the same as cain and he won’t have the size advantage against overeem.
so cabbage is a mental beast and goulet is a mental midget. its genetic. yes ducking into a uppercut is gunna increase the odds of goin out but goulet could get hit on his forearm and goout. ud need a bat for cabbage
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mentality does play a factor , but not as much as physical structure.
Compare Cabbage neck and head to Jonathan Goulet.
Now compare LHW Overeem to HW Overeem. That’s a world of difference dude.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And drinking milk can help your chin lol seriously
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's been KO'd 6 times
in 48 HEAVYWEIGHT fights
And he fought in fucking PRIDE openweight
his chin is fine.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
Winter is coming.
fine doesnt cut it vs jds he better hold onto that clinch for dearlife
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry to disagree with you p123 .. i am a big fan of reem too .. but you just got to be honest with yourself , while i see why you may think reem can win.. jds has the most impressive list of wins probably in mma history .. werdum,cro crop,yvel,gonzaga,carwin,big country,cain, reem will just be another name to the list ? sig bet?
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
I’m not a fan of either. And being a fan shouldn’t effect ones judgement.
Beating Badr Hari in his own sport is as crazy as it gets , beating JDS wouldn’t even be as big of a deal.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i dont know how you can say beating jds wouldnt be a big deal … when dude has crushed every guy he has faced .. never a fight in doubt .. but i guess we will agree to disagree .. but sig bet ? 2 weeks?
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
No I didn’t mean it that way.
Just saying. Overeem has been here before.
He went to a different sport and took out their king. That’s huge dude.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
jeez stop hanging off those nuts!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
who me or p123? cause i will admit i am pretty much camped on jds ’s nut sack but thats cause i think dude is a beast ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
he said AS big of a deal. which he right to say. Overeem beating the top guy in a different sport is a lot more impressive then beating JDS imo.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 15, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Beating junior would be reem's crowning achievement period.
Badr was a great feat, but for reem to take out junior, the killer of killers would be far superior to wins against badr…
by dragonassault on Feb 15, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I doubt that. Knocking out Hari in his own sport is held to a much greater level in the K-1 world than knocking out JDS in the MMA world.
JDS is a new guy , Hari was a god. Junior is nowhere near that level in MMA.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You do realize that there isnt even a K-1 grand prix anymore right? I would say the UFC is far more prestigious than a non existent organization. Badr was a very good fighter but nowhere near as dominant as you make him out to be. Schilt, Aerts, Hoost and Bonjasky were FAR FAR FAR better fighters. Badr Hari has not won a single K-1 grand prix. He hit very hard and had some very impressive KOs over some great fighters (including Semmy) but never won the big one.
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
I will sig bet you if p123 doesn’t
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
ok sounds good .. i will sig bet you as well as p123 if takes me up on it ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
How would that work? You can only sig bet one person by definition
"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)
I don’t even know how to do sigs anyway. Plus I’m not saying JDS will lose, it’s a very competitive fight.
Overeem is being undervalued here so I’m just pointing that out. JDS is a beast , but so is Overeem.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
jds has the most impressive list of wins probably in mma
I would take off everyone except cain and werdum since they are still relevant overeem probably beats jds in the resume department the only guys that have hurt overeem badly recently were legit strikers with over 60+ fights.
If he can beat Badr Hari , he can beat Junior.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
-1
That is the worst assumption I’ve ever heard.
You guys need to stop comparing k-1 and mma. It’s completely different. K-1 requires very little footwork, very little! You walk straight forward and throw one-two power strikes. That’s it.
Junior is going to be setting up combos the whole fight an he rarely leaves himself in a position to be hit where he can’t hit you back harder, and two to three times. If you guys are banking on that one power strike landing, that’s cool, everyone has a punchers chance, but you will see for the first time the holes in overeem get exposed and picked apart. I’ll take any and all bets right now.
Overeem is going to sleep.
Go back and watch junior vs Cro cop. That was before Cro cop went over the hill, Cro cop coming into that JDS fight, in his last 4 fights he ha 3 wins an a NC to none other than, overeem and junior picked that “K-1 walk straight forward throw a power strike” style completely apart.
We’ve seen Cro cop, get beat, we’ve seen Cro cop get knocked out but when have you EVER seen Cro cop tap to strikes. Just give up On the feet. Never. Junior walked him down, put a clinic on his head and body and made Cro cop quit. He slipped that one power punch style and returned with three or four o his own.
I understand why so many people are picking overeem, I get it. But finally, after this fight, junior is going to shut everyone up and leave no doubt, finally.
Well hopefully, people were saying Cain was gonna destroy him and leave junior in the dust and that didn’t happen but still he has to shut everyone up. And he will.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 2:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Definitely not the worst assumption. JDS isn’t going to want to grapple with Overeem. Both men also want to prove how elite their striking is.
JDS doesn’t want to take a chance getting his neck squashed either. Overeem is too strong for JDS to grapple with for extended periods of time.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So wrong my friend.
For one, JDS has the defense to keep from getting subbed. Go watch some blackhouse videos, watch him roll, he is almost impossible to keep down. He’s a great scramblers, has a good base, and great hip control. The only thing Reem is doing grappling JDS is tiring himself out. Which isn’t what he is goin to want to do.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
extended periods of time?
I’m surprised that Overeem didn’t cough out a lung when he fought Werdum.
I like Overeem but you’re being delusional.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
so did gilbert
I c him kneein jr against the cage with underhooks. which could b very effective at tiring jr and havin him loose that 1 punchpowr
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 1:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Looks like someone is treating himself to double rations of horse liver. This fight means a wole lot
dia,
I’m getting out of work late tonight, won’t be at b-dubs till about 930pm. See you then.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
someone's getting a booty call
dont forget to use protection
I’m almost complete with my transformation…once they attach that donkey schlong on me, I will be able to satisfy myself like danago does all day long and change my name to Buck Angel II
I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.
"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"
I played 8=Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.
shit just got real.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 15, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
im canceling my christian mingle account
and go full time here on mania.
I’m almost complete with my transformation…once they attach that donkey schlong on me, I will be able to satisfy myself like danago does all day long and change my name to Buck Angel II
I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.
"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"
I played 8=Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.
good move,
Dia and I are close friends and met right here on Mania. I’m sure you’ll find what you’re looking for. Try changing your name to something that includes your location so that other singles in your area become aware of your proximity.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 15, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for the advise
you do know your stuff
I’m almost complete with my transformation…once they attach that donkey schlong on me, I will be able to satisfy myself like danago does all day long and change my name to Buck Angel II
I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.
"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"
I played 8=Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.
Please.................... you don't know shit how to beat JDS. JDS 2nd round.
by slick n the wind on Feb 15, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions
Um he did beat Badr Hari dude, you know the best striker on the planet?
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much anyone who knows striking.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
would you please give me some names?
by slick n the wind on Feb 15, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Please don't debate the striking skills of Badr.
There is no winning.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 15, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously. People think Badr ain’t nothing? C’mon man do your research.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are you serious right now?
Badr Hari is the Mike Tyson of K-1
Crazy dangerous and also crazy.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
Winter is coming.
and what were the circumstances going into that fight?
and what happened the other time they fought?!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
he's one and one with him...
this isnt kickboxing either why do people bring beating Hari into the discussion about MMA? its a completely different combat sport…And this is coming from a huge Reem fan.
Alistair is most definitely the best striker Junior will face, probably ever but reem needs to keep those hands up and clinch whenever possible to unleash the knees, He’ll have the strength advantage to muscle JDS around
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Beating Badr Hari in Kickboxing is harder than beating Jds in MMA
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
whos that, Badr Hari?
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
I have to agree with him
JDS is a striker, he won’t be looking for a TD, clinch, sub, or anything else.
This will be a striking match.
AO is experienced is striking matches.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 15, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Probably the best striker in the world.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
HOW?
thats a ridiculous statement to make. ..
Hari didnt have the use of takedowns or grappling so I think you should rethink that
plus Hari has never won a K-1 tournament..so he can;t be so amazing as you seem to think
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Had bonjaski not faked an injury AGAIN he wud have.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
ok yes he might muscle JDS around but, Reem is a much slower fight JDS has speed
by slick n the wind on Feb 15, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Dude if Reem muscles you around you get KOed. Don’t you get it?
Reem is not some dumb wrestler who is muscling you around to take you down.
Reem muscles you around to land the most devastating knees in all of striking.
Jesus man. No one can surive an Uber Knee. That’s what makes Overeem ridiculously dangerous. If you get close to him you die.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hari did return the favor…. with punches too. uberreem win if he utilizes his knees similar to reem vs hari 1
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 1:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
WOW! p123, I usually agree with you but you are clueless!
Bade hari posseses a completely different skill set than JUNIOR! stop comparing or using that stupid k-1 math that since overeem beat hari he’ll beat junior. He is NOT the beat striker in the world, in K-1 yes, in UFC hell no!
If junior fought him in a K-1 match, ya, hari would beat him. I junior and hari fought in the octagon, junior will knock his head off. Don’t be dumb. I know you’re not dumb.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 2:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thing is Hari has never won the K-1 grand prix....so he's not the best at all
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
correct Mr Langford
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
He was robbed the 1st time.
& he everybody who did win te grand prix.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
*he beat every1 who won the GP anyways.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
he got TKO'd in the only final he ever got to..
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
JDS is better off fighting Overeem in a K-1 match than MMA.
Overeem’s submission chops are legit and JDS is a ?
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude, you have no idea. You really don't.
What you seen in fights isn’t everything. I’ve seen countless videos of junior grappling. 20 minutes straight of him rolling with silva and the nog brothers and he is more than capable of subbing anyone and defending anyone.
He never has to show it because he knocks you out. Do you think Jose Aldo’s BJJ is a ?
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 2:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Being good at BJJ in BJJ is not the same as being good at BJJ in MMA
Just look at Dean Lister.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
Winter is coming.
Very true but I don't think that Reem is going to out-grapple junior.
Even in an mma match. Reem lost his speed and fluidity when he gained all that muscle. I don’t think submission plays a role in this game unless he pulls a bones jones/machida guillotine on JDS. But I doubt that.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Badr possesses a much more complete striking skillet than JDS.
Badr would eat up JDS lead leg with devastating leg kicks.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Glue
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 15, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
damn i bang bus must be gettting desperate.
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
lol glad someone got the refrence…
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
are they going to mike's apartment?
I’m almost complete with my transformation…once they attach that donkey schlong on me, I will be able to satisfy myself like danago does all day long and change my name to Buck Angel II
I lost to Cruz Jackson. He’s the best. I padded his record and just a can. I talk shit to try and get replies when In reality I still play the original Halo on original XBOX like a religiously. I’m so totally awesome and straight and I act gay on a blog only because I’m the second loneliest mother fucker on Mania. First goes to Stallion. I want Shivan to lose to Cruz and Diaz to show how overrated he is. My favorite fighter is Josh Burkman. Thank You.
"i oilcheck need to take a reality check.What an imbecile i am to even think of going up against Scott1 with his perfect 1 and 0 sig record.I am already known as Manias biggest scumbag now i’ve got the moniker of a loser as well!TUT TUT SMH!!!"
I played 8=Danago in words with friends and he quit just like shogun.
I think Reem
Puts JDS against the cage and works him close to attempt to stifle JDS’s reach and accuracy.
I want JDS to win, but I think Reem has the tools and is very capable of beating him if he can get in the clinch.
by jfreezy on Feb 15, 2012 1:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I remember people saying the same thing
about Velasquez, one good touch on the chin or temple is all it takes when you’re that size, he’s far from unbeatable
I came here to chew bubble gum and kick ass.....and I'm all out of bubble gum!!!
by TillaDaDrilla on Feb 15, 2012 3:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
now that is true .. but i wasnt one of those saying that about cain .. especailly after that kongo fight .. but i was one of those who said that about machida after his destruction of silva and evans ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
they should add a celebrity fight to each cars
washed up celebrities beatin each other up for fame. they can fake an addiction with dr.drew or fight for ufc. think danny bonaduchi vs joe rogan with goldie commentin on joes technique. pauly shore vs andy dick… its endless entertainment
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 1:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Gameplanning vs JDS is easy,he's a boxer
Its all about the execution
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 1:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yh really easy! idiot
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
sorry forgot to read the 2nd line
i take it all back…apart from the idiot part!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
All I want to know who is Badr? Why does he not fight in the UFC if he is so good? Not saying Im the all knowing about fighters.
by slick n the wind on Feb 15, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions
Badr Hari is a retired kickboxer as of two weeks ago he's moved into professional boxing. He's pretty good
but the relevance of him in this fight is non existant
He’s had 1 mma fight and got subbed..lol
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Thank god there’s atleast one person on here who isn’t a dumbass. MMA and K-1 are completely different! Hari shooing even be coming up in this discussion. Hari means nothing.
And if alistair is believing the same thing his fans are, holding onto that fals hope that since he’s beat Hari he has a great chance against Cigano, he’s in for a big surprise. I can’t wait for this.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 2:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And I'mm an Overeem fan haha
but this Hari stuff isnt relevant at all JDS is much more dangerous..no two ways about it
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Overeem is a bad motha fucker. Talk about his skill-set.
How that is goin to win the fight. Not just because he beat hari, he is going to beat junior. When it comes from a overeem fan, it just looks like they are so hopeless, they reach for anything they can and hari is what they grab and hold onto. “he beat hari, yes! He can’t beat JDS”, lol it’s laughable.
As a junior fan this is what I’m worried about, I’m worried about those knees, that clinch, and kicking that front leg of junior especially after his surgery. That’s what I’m worried about. Not at all worried about him beating hari in a K-1 match, anyone who knows anything knows that that doesn’t mean SHIT!
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he's a kickboxer not a mixed martial artist
reem knocked him out at his own game. tall guy with great power+rep in kickboxing community
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was one of the greatest kickboxers ever.People realize JDS just wants to stand and trade and overeem has done that vs that type of competition so their confident in overeems chances.
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
JDS took carwin down twice..
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
And lesnar landed a few leg kicks in a few fights..so what?
JDS is a boxer and he’s fighting one the strongest and best stand-up fighters period..
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly, look at that poor footwork.
K-1 is all about little footwork, throw haymakers.
Overeem is in over his head. He has no idea on how much footwork is going to make a difference. Overeem is going to sleep. He isn’t goin to stand there flat-footed an throw haymakers like you do in K-1. He is going to be in and out, and unlike a majority of the K-1 fighters, junior will be thrown THREE AND FOUR punch combos, overeem isn’t goin to know what hits him.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
K-1 is all about little footwork, throw haymakers.
Jesus Christ almighty
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
Winter is coming.
hahahahahahah..literally
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 3:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It is. Don't be naive.
You walk straight forward, throw one-two power strike combos. That’s it. There’s little footwork, little circling. You just have to take a shot, give a shot. MMA is completely different.
K-1 is all about being 2 feet away from your opponent. Junior is all about footwork, and using that distance. Closing that distance and exploding. There’s little of that in K-1. If you’re debating that you have no idea what it ia you’re watching.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seen it. All I used to watch is K-1. I know it thru in thru.
Training in both kickboxing and boxing, I watch alot. I train both. Even in training, the biggest difference is footwork.
It’s a HUGE difference. Just wait until after this fight, then apologize.
How many K-1/kickboxers have come over to MMA and been successful? And when they haven’t been successful why do you think that is?
I’m not bashing on K-1. I love K-1. But facts are facts. Yes there is footwork but very little. You have to have footwork in the pocket, that’s it. You don’t use distance, you don’t do anything but walk forward. If yourw going to argue that, I don’t know what else to tell you. Just wait for the fight and see the difference in footwork.
If Reem takes junior out on the feet, I’ll call you my daddy for the rest of my life here on mania. That’s a promise.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LoL
Dutch style kickboxing dus not just excist of walk forward ..
A pretty standart thing in kickboxing is side-step and counter with a hook ..
So that alone makes it more that just walking foward …
I dont know how many k k1 fights you seen ??
Ever seen mr.perfect fight back when he still did ?
he did more than just walk forward ..He had great feetwork
and there are many more like him …
Lets see how many mma fighters would do good in k1 BESIDES
Allistair and crocop ..
lol..more laughter..this is great!
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 15, 2012 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We'll see who is laughing after this fight.
Don’t worry tho, there’s room here on the bomb squad(JDS) for ya. So when you see him knock Reems head off, I’ll will see you part ways with the dark side lol.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
K-1 is all about little footwork, throw haymakers
Jds would do well then since that’s what it’s all about lol… no scratch that jds would get flatten I don’t care how tough you think he is jds has no defense and does the exact same thing, also he dosen’t set up anything he just throws more lead shots than combinations. He could knee and kick but they would be subpar kicks and knees jds would get knocked out simply because the k-1 guys at least have some defense and can throw combinations.
'I already know how to beat Junior dos Santos'
A gun, isn’t it?
pride never die.
Ok that fair...... Thats why is called MMA not kickboxings. Thanks for the info...I never heard of this guy. Thats all Im trying to say.
by slick n the wind on Feb 15, 2012 2:07 PM EST reply actions
I like Reem.
Overeem was fighting Chuck Lidell 3 years before JDS’s first professional fight. In fact, he fought Lidell, Rua, Werdum, Belfort, and Bog Nog all before JDS had his first fight. That’s a lot of experience right there.
King Kong ain't got nothing on me!
cro cop,werdum,yvel,gonzaga, all had alot of experience too ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
Werdum had like 10 fights
gonzaga too.
Do some research homie.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
Winter is coming.
i would think 10 fights is experince ….. homie ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
lol
all had alot of experience too ..
10 is alot?
Your backsliding to make your point.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
Winter is coming.
no i mean seriously .. and dont forget all the bjj tournaments those guys won before they even got in mma .. i would think anyhting above 8 pro fights is enough
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
If those fights had gone to ground I'd agree
but the Jits guys tried to stand.
So their BJJ experience meant jack shit.
Learn JiuJitsu.
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so does that goes for wrestlers too ? and kick boxers ? your previous training and chamiponships mean jack shit ?
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
If you trained for 10 years in Judo
then jump into an MMA fight
and decide to stand and bang
what good was all the Judo?
That’s my only point.
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but with all that training and then 10 mma fights .. wouldnt you call that experinced ?
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
Yes it is.
Plus if we’re including submision grappling events
Reem’s got even more.
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Joe Stevenson and Melvin guillard have ALOT of fights too, means nothing.
When you have the skill/talent, you hve it. It’s not always about experience. Bones jones doesn’t have nearly the experience as these other guys an he’s blowing thru em. Same with junior.
Mike Tyson had little experience before he blew on the scene and starte taking peoples head off.
Junior is the mike Tyson of mma. He’ll be knocking everyones head off.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
shit i guess well agree to disagree i see what you are saying .. but i think 10 pro fights on top of previous years trainging in combat is alot .
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
I'll give you a maybe, lol
Training is not experience. But I’ll even give it to you that 10 fights is a lot of experience. 62 is just a hell of a lot more.
King Kong ain't got nothing on me!
That's credit to junior. Werdum and gonzaga both TRIED to take junior down
And use their sub. Junior didn’t let them. It’s not like they went Into the fight and tried to stand and bang. They tried to take him down, gonzaga got him down but junior sprang back up.
You’re reaching to try and negate his point.
That’s my only point.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah because nobody with less fights has ever won.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
This fight is gonna be titties!
I can’t predict who will win it.
Hope it’s SUPREMEREEM.
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jds goin to b passed over with emergence of nextgen fighters like travis brown
wellrounded wins. when jds doesnt get a knockout he wont outscore anyone besides imobile roynelson and also one dimentional carwin.everyother weightclass has a wellrounded champ. if his run isnt over from reem its just time
by Zeuszb on Feb 15, 2012 2:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well rounder fighters
like Alistair Overeem.
36 wins
15 KOs
19 SUBs
2 DEC
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Leg kicks, spinning back fists, leg kicks, move backwards, leg kicks, move backwards...
Spinning back fists, move backwards, move backwards, move backwards, leg kicks….
The game plan for the perfect victory is set!
Overeem will be blowing
JDS legs up with leg kicks all night long. Then slowly picking him apart until the doctor stops it in the 4th.
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the 4th?
overrem will be on an iron lung by then
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
JDS by easy first roound knockout. It will be way more vicious than against Cain. I see something like this:
TRAIN BY DAY, JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT - ALL DAY.
..bullshit stoppage
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
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by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 15, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
agreed,way too early
werdum was just cotemplating his next move,a lot of though goes into those kind of things
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
He was gameplanning, looking at the mata nd drawing his attack
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 15, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
he was just trolling… BS decision from the ref
What did you think id look like...
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
He had a bad angle, things happen.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 15, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
He was just covering up to unleash this beast
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
creepy
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
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hahahaha Dana is just a wannabe
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
HOW DARE YOU SPEAK OF OUR KING IN THAT TONE
I’LL HAVE YOUR HEAD ON A SPIKE OUTSIDE THE CASTLE ZUFFA!
GUARDS SEIZE Rampagelangford, I WANT HIM IN THE DUNGEON!!!!!
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he lives in England
Zuffa doesn’t care about him
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haha! So true!
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
what if Dana was the next President.
by slick n the wind on Feb 15, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
mass suicide?
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GSP has short shorts
Liddell has a mohawk
Dan Hardy has a punk look
Bisping is British
Sonnen talks mad shit
………Werdum has a funny face
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 15, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I see something like this.
The problem here is werdum making a stupid mistake like the rest of them throwing a punch then ducking his head away he dosen’t even see the punch coming..also werdum is no striker. Overeem most likely won’t make the same mistake also jds probably ain’t going to bring anything new that overeem hasn’t seen before.
Wow, you have no idea what it is you're watching.
You better make sure you’re glued to the tv, don’t blink.
You’re going to see overeem have a siezure on the mat while he’s unconscious.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 17, 2012 9:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow, you have no idea what it is you're watching.
Are you talking to me? I know exactly what I’m talking about jds looks like a beast against yvel, gonzaga, and werdum because they are terrible strikers that made stupid mistakes even cain made that kind of a mistake and jds still did not flatten him it took him several more punches for the ref to step in and that was the hardest punch jds can throw and it landed flush, also jds has no defense and he throws the same strikes over and over also cro cop and cain were catching him not setting up the body shots if overeem catches him like that it’s lights out for jds I don’t care how tough you think is. If jds can’t put overeem away then it’s going to be a bad night for him for sure…for sure.
There’s a big chance for that. Rollo did you catch Shane choking JDS from side control and actually reversing position? Overeem is on a different level of strength.
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
JDS
didn’t either bother countering it.
The round was over.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
He didn't get ragdolled.
What were you watching.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Shane grabbed a hold of his neck, and rolled Junior over, while on his back. That’s getting ragdolled man. He looked like a little kid being strung along by a bear.
Put up the gif.
I love JDS's face as he's getting choked
“Damn…..I fucked up.”
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whoop there we go.
once again, this proves nothing.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Lol dude, you're reaching again.
JDS just gave up, the round was over. He just laid there. You’re looking into that too much. If you’re taking something from that last 8 decode of the carwin fight I’m convinced you’re delusional.
Nobody has gotten the best of junior and yourw having a hard time proving anything you’re saying, you keep reaching. Stop
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
His banner of sponsors will be a naked photo of JDS’ wife
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 15, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions
He THINKS he knows how to beat
JDS but isn’t Junior like a BJJ wiz and he just hasn’t had to display it because he keeps knocking everyone out? Just sayin’, Overeem sounds a little too confident.
No he's not
This is JDS tapping.
Overeem on the otherhand, has a real Jits game.
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That was so long ago, that's like saying
Nick Diaz doesn’t have a chin when he got knocked out by Jeremy Jackson even though Nick has one of the best chins in the game. So that photo is just irrelevant ^
You act like JDS has had 50 + fights
He has had 14…
amatuer boxing he’s included which you shouldn’t.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 15, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Funny you're saying JDS isn't a BJJ
Wiz just cause he got caught in an armbar 5 years ago. When Overeem got knocked out 5 + times in the last 5 years, still doesn’t mean he isn’t one of the elite strikers in his division? Dumbass, put two and two together
I'm saying JDS isn't a BJJ wizard
cuz he isn’t a BJJ wizard.
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How do you know that?
Do you think overeem is better on the ground?
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's shown me more.
That’s all I have to go on.
Forgive me if I take the praise his coaches recite to the cameras with a grain of salt.
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Agreed with BE guy again. Damn Mania, you guys are making us look bad!
Overeem is far more accomplished grappler than JDS. Wake up!
by p123 on Feb 15, 2012 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Accomplished yes. That doesn't mean he's better! Wake up!
Damian Maia is the more “accomplished” grappler than mike was, and mike out-grappled him! That doesn’t mean anything. Please don’t be retarded, I know you are not retarded.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mike who?
I don’t know, aren’t you the guy who has seen a lot of clips of JDS rolling? Because in MMA, there has been zilch.
Mike, lol oops.
Chris. Chris weidman. I’m saying what you have accomplished doesn’t mean anything when you get in the ring.
Juniors knocking him out. Don’t look too deep into it.
Dos Santos via Bomb Squad.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 8:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was honestly just asking you're opinion. I don't know why p123 thought that was me saying JDS is better.
I take anything Anyones coach says about his fighter with a grain a salt. I’ve seen videos of JDS rolling without the best of em. He’s a black belt. Do I think he is a better grappler than Reem, no. But I think he has the tools that will keep Reem from doing anything significant in the grappling department.
IMO.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Feb 15, 2012 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh and Alistair's chin
Is GLASS if JDS connects with one of those over hand rights that catches you even on the temple your OUT! He needs to take JDS more seriously IMO.
They can both be KO’ed their over 230 pounds and elite strikers.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Feb 15, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
btw boys it might say KO on his record but if you watch the fights he's never out cold
EVER. they’re all tko’s :) he’s never been put to sleep once
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 15, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
JDS pathetic attempts to compete with Overeem will be laughable. It’s like anyone going up against Anderson Silva WITH Master Seagal in his corner and expecting to win, it just isn’t going to happen. By MMA standards, JDS’ striking is good, compare it to K1 legend Overeems and it’s shockingly bad. Like a drunk brawler at the bar, that’s what JDS will look like.
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yeah he may dance like an ass but i bet you wouldnt say shit to his face .. wen you can drop top 10 heavyweights left and right you can pretty much dance how you want ..
So every morning this guy comes to my apartment complex to collect cans out of the dumpster he then crushes them .. turns out the guys name is fedor ..
I'd say shit to his face
as long as I had my .45 in my pocket…
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JDS will use the jab to keep him away
Lmfnao how is he going to do that he dosen’t have the reach advantage hell he couldn’t even use the jab against cain.
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