Carlos Condit: Nick Diaz's marijuana-minded attitude bit him in the ass
by Jesse Holland on Feb 13, 2012 11:53 AM EST
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If it was up to Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Interim Welterweight Champion Carlos Condit, his next fight would be a score-settling rematch against Nick Diaz.
Not because the mixed martial majority was butt-hurt over "The Natural Born Killer's" unanimous decision win against the Stockton slugger (they were), but because "he wanted it," and was ready to prove that he could do it again.
Hopefully he still feels that way in 2013 after Diaz finishes up what's expected to be a yearlong suspension for drugs of abuse.
The 170-pound trash-talker was popped for "marijuana metabolites" following the UFC 143 pay-per-view (PPV) event back on Feb. 4, 2012, in Las Vegas, Nevada, effectively eliminating himself from a Condit rematch as well as the division title chase.
Live by the sword, die by the sword, according to Condit. Hear that and more from the Interim champ (via SI.com) after the jump.
"I don't care. The thing about it is, it's something they test for. It's against the Nevada [State] Athletic Commission [rules]. I don't really consider it to be a performance-enhancing drug, but the fact is, they're testing for it. And you know they're testing for it. Whatever you do in between camps, if you know they're testing for this stuff then you've got to figure something out. In the past, he's said, 'Oh, I can smoke and I can pass these tests no problem.' That attitude kind of came back and bit him in the ass."
For Diaz, the infraction marked the second time he's been popped for the green stuff in Nevada, having flunked his exam after strangling Takanori Gomi at PRIDE 33 nearly five years ago.
While Diaz has the right to appeal, he's expected to face a steep monetary fine, as well as a lengthy suspension that could last as long as one year.
As for Condit?
He's expected to fight Georges St. Pierre later this year to unify the titles, but if the Canadian is in no "Rush" to return from rehabbing his surgically repaired knee, there's always that rematch against Jake Ellenberger.
Stay tuned.
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Yes yes and yes
Nick definitely shit the bed here. Time to sleep in it! Spark it up!!
Randy Couture is my hero. End of story.Io
by danago's manager on Feb 13, 2012 11:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions
im glad he got caught so we didn't have to see carlos exploit what in my mind is still an inclomplete
scoring system in mma.
what would make it complete?
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 13, 2012 12:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Quantification and clarification of the rules as written.
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IMO..same results
Human judgement and human error and interpretation will always lead to controversies
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by letter19 on Feb 13, 2012 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
agreed, but it should diminish the frequency
which is my main concern.
There should not be 4 controversial fights on one card ever again, IMO, and it is almost typical to have one for every UFC event. That is substandard and unacceptable if this sport wants to go mainstream.
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I agree
It seems like so many more fights are controversial because the match ups are extremely fair. I would also like to see takedowns not counted for so much unless the fighter uses it once he’s there and not just lay and pray. I would also like to see sub attempts counted for more
Nick Diaz sucks balls , he can’t hang with the elite WW’s he only looks good against 2nd rate guys in SF
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by Kalejohncox on Feb 13, 2012 12:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think it can be diminished
Their will never be a system that will eliminate the human element of scoring.Even when presented with figh-metrics people still whine.
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 13, 2012 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So you would be OK following a sport that has controversial fights every event?
I already care less than I did 3 years ago. This would make it worse.
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that depends on the person I don't see controversy at every event
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 13, 2012 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have ups and downs too.
But I think I’ll be a fan of mma for life at this point. I can’t imagine myself not being at least a bit interested.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
controversial fights are still more entertaining than a ball being thrown around
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.
Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.
No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.
You mean..
“..See Nick try again to simply stand and box his way to victory only to throw a tantrum when it fails..”?
Carlos used footwork and diversity in striking. Diaz went with “Imma stand ‘n’ box and when that doesn’t work imma talk smack” and lost. Happens.
by ArmChairMMA on Feb 13, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
So Nick tried to "simply stand and box his way to victory"
What was the point of saying that? Do you bash JDS for doing the same? I bet you don’t…
by Starr788 on Feb 13, 2012 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Doesn't seem like he's bashing
And when JDS loses to a fighter that uses a diverse attack then yeah the same will be said about him
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You'd think..
.. The point was self explanatory? Nick lost? How was that unclear? Nick seems to have the tools and experience to be able to not solely rely on boxing, when its not working, the trouble was he thought it was. His mistake.
JDS? Someone will adapt unless JDS beats them to the punch? See what I did there?
Carlos ran around the ring for 5 rounds landing weak strikes
If anything octagon control should matter alot more, how was nick supposed to take him down if all carlos did was run, Nick was pressing the action and trying to fight while carlos was just running around throwing weak strikes. This is the sport of fighting isnt it?
Not necessarily..
Octagon control != (not equal to) effective striking?
Just because a fighter moves forward and tries to strike doesn’t mean they are given the nod. Nor should it. If this were the case counter punchers would be screwed.
If Nick were effectively controlling the octagon would Carlos not of had a difficult time executing his strategy to get in range, attack, get out of range and avoiding being cornered?
Nick wasn’t effectively using footwork to contain Carlos nor did Nick adapt when Nick was taking damage and unable to counter.
MMA is the sport of Mixed Martial Arts. Mixed meaning more than one. Martial meaning combat, or fighting. Art meaning quality, grace, elegance.
In other words this ‘sport of fighting’ is NOT a glorified bar fight were two concrete heads stand in place throwing haymakers til the someone’s lights go out or they get bored lest they be ridiculed to tears by peers.
When you turn something into a sport sometimes things like game plans and strategy are employed. A fight becomes more like a chess match than a game of checkers.
by ArmChairMMA on Feb 13, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Great post
People keep saying Nick controlled the Octagon but Carlos did, Carlos dictated when and where the exchanges took place
by jtc5150 on Feb 13, 2012 5:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
how was nick supposed to take him down if all carlos did was run,
Yes, how inconsiderate of Carlos not to make life easy for his opponent.
by Motmaitre on Feb 13, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i'm sure your new found fighting attitude brought you a lot of fans, condit
no way it comes back to bite you in the ass
pride never die.
Yeah I watched the fight again this weekend
I face palmed the entire time. What a joke Condit looked like.
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
Did you also
face palm when Nick lost the UD and tested positive too? As that would have been more of a joke to me.
"The less secure a man is, the more likely he is to have extreme prejudice."
- Clint Eastwood
i did facepalm when diaz tested positive for pot
what a dumbass
pride never die.
funny how condit says "i dont think it's a performance enhancing drug" and diaz fans still come in here to shit on him
Fuck It Dude, Life's A Risk
some of us (not diaz fans)
shit on condit for a boring game plan that showed absolutely no dominance (ie: it looked nothing like fitch’s or gsp’s) and the shitty consistency on scoring systems
pride never die.
i didn't think it was boring at all, but to each his own i s'pose
Fuck It Dude, Life's A Risk
by theoregonduck on Feb 13, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn't boring...
But because Nick was making it exciting with the Stockton walk, arm raise, bitch slap, etc.
by Starr788 on Feb 13, 2012 12:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"Stop running, bitch!"
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by ViolentMike on Feb 13, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
"So we're throwing spinning shit now?"
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright
Diaz Wonderboy 2013
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.
Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.
No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.
You would rather watch Fitch hold somebody down and do nothing
Than watch Condit run around, but still be active throwing a wide array of strikes, which have the possibility to hurt his opponent?
when have you seen fitch not be active?
i’d rather have fitch fight 10 times than sit through condit’s fight ever again. Fitch is never not active from the top, he will break you down and own you. What did carlos even impose? he just out ran diaz, that’s all he did
pride never die.
Outstruck Diaz you mean
Sorry Jon Fitch is only “active” because the other guy is trying to scramble to his feet, and Fitch is trying to get them back down. Weak GnP, hardly any sub attempts, minimal guard passes, boring
if you honestly believe fitch isn't actively working to break his opponent
(notice i never said ko) then you have no business watching his fights ever again. Nor chael’s for that matter
pride never die.
Chael stays waaaay more active
I loved Fitch in his last fight, don’t get me wrong.
And the GSP fight.
This is so retarded
I almost wish he’d taken steroids so there was something to be upset about, but the guy is getting a year suspension for smoking weed? Wow…
I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.
by O damn he got caught on Feb 13, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions
no, hes getting a year off because he thinks rules dont apply to him
plenty of people need do pee clean for their jobs, its unfortunate that weed has a bad rap, but if you want that job, play by the rules. if not, find another job
+1
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Feb 13, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
stupid rules
are ment to be broken
Nick Diaz did this for justice!
Learn JiuJitsu.
Semper Fi'
Cortez Kennedy is in the Hall Of Fame!!!!!!!! WE DID IT!
How old are you?
No fucking way you’re out of HS if you really believe this. This isn’t like Rosa Parks sitting on the White-Only seat this is a guy who got busted for pot because he couldn’t keep his shit together.
Yawn!
Just finished a nap and going to check out mania. All that diaz/condit shit must be dead now. WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?
Anderson Silva is going to retire Sonnen in Brazil!
Women are at home with their husbands and children. Whores are at the club getting smacked by the Reem.
I thought Condit said
what the title reads. Luckily for this thread it did not.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 13, 2012 12:13 PM EST reply actions
HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!!!!
Condit Fan: It is against the rules.
Diaz Fan: The rules suck and need to be changed. Pot does not enhance performance.
Condit Fan: Condit outstruck Diaz. It was a close fight that could have gone ither way.
Diaz Fan: Bullshit, It was robbery of the year. How do you win a fight backing up and throwing soft leg kicks.
Me: Meh. Don’t we have an event Wednesday for which we should have new things to discuss?
What did I miss?
Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
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Condit fan: Diaz is a big baby who cries when he doesn’t get his way. Go retire Nick!
Diaz fan: He had a right to be pissed cuz he got ROBBED! Robbery of the century! Diaz is a badass and there is no way he could lose!
condit fan: man i love sucking dick
diaz fan: hey, me too! lets go suck some dick elroy!
Fuck It Dude, Life's A Risk
by theoregonduck on Feb 13, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
win?
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
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by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
Elroy. Ha
After a botched kick atempt in the AFC championship game vs the Patriots, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff attempted to commit suicide. Unfortunately, he could'nt kick the chair out from under himself...
by ClinchKing on Feb 13, 2012 12:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
condit fan: flying knees, head kicks, and combinations are exciting to watch
diaz fan: no they aren’t
by Hollywoodsco on Feb 13, 2012 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
not if they all miss and you run away if something does land
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.
Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.
No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.
I am disappointed in your performance. You need to work in “209” “scurred” “homie” and “fuck Greg Jackson”
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
trying not to show bias, lol
Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
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not only is it an event on wednesday
But a huge event later this month in japan.And we are still talking about “weed smoking”
"I'm recognized for being a great fighter but more importantly a great father"-letter19
by letter19 on Feb 13, 2012 12:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Some days, I feel like the president
Others, I feel like the Secretary of the Education. Can you guess which day this is?
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
Speaking of Wednesday....
Has anyone else seen what Dave Herman looks like right now? It’s a horror show!
Wednesday?
Oh shit, I didn’t even realize that.
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by ViolentMike on Feb 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
he's sexy and he knows it
I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.
Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.
Sig bet record 2-6*
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.
Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.
No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.
Get those picks in
Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.
Please copy this sig if you agree.
no
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.
Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.
No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.
Bas, Anik, and Schiavello said Condit won.
Who do you think has better experience on this sort of thing.
That picture says it all...
He is just immature and needs to grow up. I remember when I was 12 and flicking people off was cool…those were the days.
by rmclimack on Feb 13, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So when you get mad you pleasantly tell the other person you dislike their actions/views, i tell them to go fuck themselves, havent thrown the bird in a while though
by Stockton Hello on Feb 13, 2012 12:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I still can't understand Diaz not getting the 5th round
I mean, it’s not a simple task to take Condit’s back. How many fighters have done that?
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
But he didn't do anything with it
the rules need to be skewed more towards effectiveness, not just position. Just taking someone down or getting their back should not be enough in and of itself. there are a lot of guys who have extremely active guards and throw up a lot of submission attempts, but the fighter on top get credit simply for being on top – it garbage.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Feb 13, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hm, so your logic...
1. Diaz secures rear-naked choke = doing something with back mount
2. Diaz attempts to secure rear-naked choke but doesn’t succeed = doing nothing with back mount
Ok, got it.
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
lol
cus taking someones back and attempting to choke them unconcious, failing and then trying to break their arm is doing nothing
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.
Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.
No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.
But does it outweigh the beginning?
He was getting out-struck badly til the last minute or so.
Psychology
Don’t blame a plant. Nick had problems before his mind and consciousness ever even knew what weed is. People who act like Nick are hiding something. Just like people who talk fast, he is hiding something. He is in denial. And he is battling himself everyday. He smokes weed to calm the anxiety, PTSD and depression that may creep up on him. Who knows, maybe he was abused as a child, neglected, raped, maybe he’s gay? It could be one of a multitude of things. You must judge, but instead learn about humans, the psyche, psychology, why humans do the things they do. Nick Diaz is a TEXTBOOK case of a disappointed human being, he needs to beat on other human beings to fill his void(s). However, if Nick makes it, he WILL reach an age and a higher level of consciousness where he fully realizes that ALL of his disappointments were created by HIM, and that disappointments are merely expectations we should have never had. Nick needs good support and structure, and maybe a Dzogchen Buddhist Temple, to clear and upgrade his consciousness. It seems he has many “Enablers” surrounding him, and his coach/manager seems to be one of them.
by Jonny Kush on Feb 13, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Last sentence nails it.
It seems he has many "Enablers" surrounding him, and his coach/manager seems to be one of them.
Just read Cesar’s comments BEFORE and AFTER Diaz missed the press conference. At first he’s agreeing with Dana’s decision to take Diaz’s shot away and says he’s disappointed in Diaz’s behavior. Later he starts talking in his best ghetto wannabe thug voice and starts disagreeing with the decision. It’s pretty obvious he’s willing to milk his cash-cow for his they’re worth. If he really cared about Diaz like he claims he’d worry more about getting him some help rather than the fighting aspect.
so happy to get getting on work in 5 min
my marijuana minded attitude is gonna get me blazzzzed! praise jebus!!
you must be already stoned
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.
Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.
No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.
Weed is just that
Worth it, period hahaha. But being in the UFC is a little more worth it. IMO
Much respect to Condit for putting his hand up for the immediate rematch.
Is that right about marijuana and a 1 year suspension….. Dam thats harsh for what is essentially not performance enhancing, but most likely dehancing. That is brutal for his career.
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