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Is it me or has MMA been boring lately?


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I want to start out by saying that MMA is my favorite sport behind American Football. I have been watching since I worked at Movie Mania and borrowed/stole all the stores UFC vhs tapes, watched all of them over and over again showing all my friends how awesome this shit was. I have enjoyed watching the old Pride fights. I have enjoyed watching the first few seasons of TUF. I have enjoyed watching Matt Hughes, Franklin, Tito, Randy,Bj, introduce the general public to the UFC. I enjoyed watching GSP dethrone the long time champ in Hughes. The Spider destroying Franklin. And of course Chuck Liddells run as baddest man on earth. Then something happened……….

It seemed to be a good thing. MMA/UFC was bringing the sport mainstream. I was excited, still am excited. But now guys seem to be afraid to fight. Make that they r afraid to lose. It has become all about out pointing the opponent. Greg Jackson’s camp is the one who has become the leader of game planning and doing just enough to outpoint the opponent. Now is it smart and does it work, hell fucking yes this shit works. I get why u would do it, cause a win is a win and another win moves u up one more notch in the division. But damn this shit is getting boring!

I am also sick of the scoring debate. 10-9/ no it was a 10-8 round, Diaz was robbed, Bisping won not Chael. The scoring is just flat out STUPID. A 10-9 system was designed for boxing, not MMA. When r we gonna come up with a solution.? Im also sick of oh he was the aggressor, he walked him down. Dude, just because one guy stalks and initiates does not mean he is controlling the octagaon (Lenorard Garia comes to mind for this point). Im also sick of, oh he got the takedown he deserves to win that round. Even though the guy got up a half a second later after the takedown. U have to do something with the takedown. Also tired of guys gassing. Penn, Hendo, shogun, wiedman, Johnson, etc. I don’t care why u r gassing, don’t gas, u r a professional athlete.

I also feel there r to many cards. The top talent is spread out to thin. Don’t get me wrong I love watching MMA all the time. Recently we got like 4 weeks str8 with MMA on tv. But that has made the cards weaker. I miss the old days of stacked cards. I miss watching cards like 112. That card had the Spider, Maia, Penn, Edgar, Hughes, Gracie, Story, Phil Davis, Munoz, all on that card. The cards now have questionable Main event fights. Anyone else getting fed up with all this stuff?????

I don’t have the answer but here are some suggestions, feel free to tweak, discuss, make fun of cause I know there will be people who will.

First, how about making fights 5, 3 minute rounds. The fight will still be 15 minutes, but making rounds shorter would make guys less hesitant to go for something big. For example, A really good striker can let loose not fearing a takedown, cause in a 5 round fight they can afford to lose a round or 2 because they got aggresive and maybe got taken down and sat on for the entire round. The BJJ guy can throw a slick risky sub attempt not having to fear again getting put in a bad position and losing round cause guy just sat on them for rest of round. In a 3 round fight if u lose 1 round cause u went for something and then got stuck being on your back, well now u have to post a shutout the last 2 rounds just to win the fight. Or heaven forbid u get a point taken away for something. Damn your fight is pretty much over in a 3 round fight. I think 5 rounds will help some of these issues. Not to mention a few more rounds means a few more minutes in a fight between rounds to catch a blow.

2nd, we need to figure out how to score and judge fights. Just cause a guy is the aggressor does not mean he is winning a close round. Leonard Garcia is a perfect example that just because u r aggressor u should be win a close round. Some guys r counter fighters, its not their style to walk down an opponent. They should not get penalized for for proper footwork and using angles to manuver around the cage. Scoring also needs to be tweaked. Judging takedowns, leg kicks, sub attempts, improving position, etc. How do u score it? Everyone scores it different and that leads to the huge problem we have now with all the inconsistent judging. I don’t think the judges r stupid, I think they like all of us don’t have a correct way to score a fight, therefore must make guess work out of close rounds. Look on this website, the message boards r like 50-50 on who wont the Condit-Diaz fight. Does that make us stupid or does it put us in the same boat as the judges. Meaning different eyes or mindsets dictate who wins a close fight. The 10-9 does not work and taking points away in a 3 round fight is also stupid. U cant make it up in 3 rounds. In a 12 round fight like boxing a point deduction does not mean as much. So as far as taking points needs to be looked at as well.

I also want the TUF shows to concentrate on the talent in the house. I don’t care who is coaching if the guys in the house blow. I want to see ready to fight in the UFC prospects on the show. That means paying more money to guys on the show maybe. Giving the winners bigger than that bullshit 6 figure contract spreadout thru like 6-8 fights. Last season was better and I hope new the format changes help this next season.

The last thing I don’t have a suggestion on how to fix. So I will just say I miss, the all out wars in the cage. I don’t care to watch the point fighting that has become the standard lately in the UFC. Maybe this is just due to lack of top notch fighters fighting on every card. Or maybe its that the talent is so much better these days that they just offset each other in the cage. Whatever the reason, I just hope these kind of fights find their way back to MMA more often.


There is so much more I would like to discuss and debate. However I don't want to ramble on anymore than I just did. So I will leave it up to u Mania, to discuss and debate how we can make one of our favorite sports better. And if u r gonna get on here and pick apart my writing flaws and poor grammar, save it, I dont care. I just want to discuss ways to make MMA better.

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No sport is perfect, every sport has problems and can improve for the most part. Plus MMA is still very young compared to the NFL, NHL, etc.

by Who is Ryoto on Feb 12, 2012 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

exactly its young and can improve

So why not tell mania some ways u would like to see it improve.

by mspenc24 on Feb 12, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

no win bonus,a finishing one instead

that would make fighters try to finish more.Of course there are guys who are nigh on impossible to finish but bonuses could still be handed out at Danas discretion.I was well up for the CC/Diaz fight it was the perfect mesh of two styles and should have been fight of the century but wasnt and in this case there would have been no win bonus and CC would have lost out so its a good idea.

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
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by scott1 on Feb 12, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah i can agree with that a little bit scott

Heres the negative to that. Look at the CC-Diaz fight. If u go for the finish and get caught and lose then what? If u win by decision u may not get finish bonus, but u get GSP and shot at title. So does it really pay off to go for the finish or just the win?

by mspenc24 on Feb 12, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yh it does depend on the context of the fight

you’re not gonna risk losing a possible shot at the title are you? But something needs to be done some fighters are stinking up the joint with their gameplanning.

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Feb 12, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know.

Everyone loves a finish. Plain truth. I used to follow kickboxing a lot, before all this crazy mma shit, and some of my most cherished and memorable fights were not necessarily all dramatic KOs. I don’t know what to tell these people anymore. Finishes are great and we all love them, but it’s about more than that.

Increase the ‘finish’ bonuses tenfold,I don’t care, but let this remain something resembling a competition.

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by Yan117 on Feb 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree to that!

Great post and agree with most/all of it!
I think that when a pouint is taken away, maybe it should be a half a point? That way the fighter that won the round would still win, butthat half a point could come back to hurt him, also wouldn’t make for a draw! Good point about boxing! One point in 12 rounds is nothing compaired with MMA’s 3 or 5 rounds. And now you have Herb Dean taking away 2??
The 3 min 5 rounds is nice, but it’s almost not enough time to get things going. I would opt for it though bc it also breaks up the boring top control fighters. Doesn’t help the jj guys imo bc it takes time with that. Either way I do like that. Wish it could be 4 min 5 rounds or something, but then what do you do for the championship fights? Adding an extra min a round isn’t much, but overall I do like it!
Something def needs to change with the scoring!!! It’s fn horrible and nothing is getting done about it, CRAZY!!!!
I thinnk that they should do the yellow card thing for fighters that aren’t FIGHTING!!!! It’s a fight so fn fight!!!! Hate this point fighting bullshit and always will! It’s not what made this sport and it def will not attract many new fans!

by MBOW on Feb 12, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

To go for a finish you have to have somebody hurt

Carlos Condit never once hurt Diaz

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 12, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

how much longer will we have to hear about this?

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably forever

Or until Diaz fighters in the UFC again

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 12, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

well that is his problem now

actually, matters have always been in his control when he signed up with the UFC

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, I don't think people give Diaz enough credit

I’ve never seen Condit look so ordinary as he did against Diaz. He had to literally run to escape the stalking style of Nick. He’s definitely grown by leaps and bounds since his last stint in the UFC. He’s a handful for anyone, no matter who they are.

We always knew Diaz was capable of losing on points. But we’ve yet to find a fighter who can beat this guy.

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 12, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Condit beat him

His hand was raised at the end of the fight so I guess that means he won. I’m new to this sport so perhaps someone can elighten me on what a raised hand means at the end of a fight.

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 13, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he outpointed him, that's been established

But Diaz is kind of like the Stockton zombie. You don’t really beat him. You keep him at bay for a few rounds by either running or laying on him. But you don’t beat the guy.

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 13, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard that same argument when Frankie beat BJ

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by Phasebook on Feb 14, 2012 5:08 AM EST up reply actions  

That's weak

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 14, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather watch the first 3 rounds of that fight

the 4th and 5th rounds were awful.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yep but they were "trying" for the finish

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Feb 12, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The reason Hendo/Shogun was so good is because every second of that fight, one of them was trying to finish the fight

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by ViolentMike on Feb 13, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear yah mspenc the sport has lost some of the personalities i think . It should come back around

kinda of like what happen to basketball after MJ retired . Shit will bounce back im sure. But yeh we should get some more stacked cards here

by BJPennfan on Feb 12, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel the same way. The sport seems to be getting stale lately for some reason.

Over-saturation is part of it, gameplans are the other part. MMA stopped being a fight and became a sport as soon as the money and sponsorships increased. Now everybody trains to not lose instead of training to kill.

I still watch the events and stuff, but there isn’t much to be excited about if this is the way the sport has to progress. I don’t blame anyone. Not Greg Jackson or the refs or judges. It’s just what happens when money and fame become a part of your job. I’m sure a lot of people feel the same way as we do, mspence. I feel a drop in popularity coming any day for the UFC.

Overeem is sexy and he knows it.

by jay. on Feb 12, 2012 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

The card before last had some of the most exciting fights in awhile

and the 5 before that all had exciting fights.

is it rivalries a la Tito/Chuck Chuck/Randy BJ/GSP Tito/Shamrock what’s needed to keep things fresh?

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by *Californication* on Feb 12, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

There's exciting fights every card

On the undercard. It’s not the young guys that are boring. It’s the guys at the of the card that are starting to fight too safe.

Overeem is sexy and he knows it.

by jay. on Feb 12, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair point.

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by *Californication* on Feb 12, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

100% jay

The undercard fights have been much more entertaining than the main card fights for a while now

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by ViolentMike on Feb 13, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Greg Jackson is to MMA as Jacques Lemaire is to NHL

Hockey fans will get the reference

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 12, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

fucking trap

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Go Devils Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 12, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 12, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

it really doesn't bother me

I’ve enjoyed watching them win 3 cups, led by the greatest goalie ever……..

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 12, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

patrick roy disagrees

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

the record book doesnt

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 12, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

just be thankful that danago didn't strap on some blades

otherwise he would have been the best ever!!! By the way, Rogie Vachon was the best goalie ever.

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

"Greatest goalie ever"???

A great goalie with even better defense!!! Def not the greatest goalie ever! No way

by MBOW on Feb 12, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

G.O.A.T. = M. Brodeur

the defense argument is a sham…

Most regular season wins: 643
Most shutouts: 117
Most Career Saves: 29,295
Most shutouts, regular season & playoffs combined: 139
Most overtime wins: 45
Most consecutive 30-win seasons: 12
Most consecutive 35-win seasons: 11
Most 40-win seasons: 8
Youngest goalie to reach 300, 400, and 500 career wins
Only goalie to reach 600 career wins
Most games played by an NHL goaltender: 1167
Most total minutes played by an NHL goaltender 68,572
Only NHL goalie to score a game-winning goal

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by ~Peregrine on Feb 12, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

so he played for a long time

under a system that almost single handedly killed the game with the neutral zone trap. the best numbers don’t always make the best players. see Emmitt Smith

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys are both fools

Dominick Hasek, in his prime, was better than either by a considerable margin. Too bad he spent years behind Belfour in Chicago before he got his chance to shine in Buffalo, as his career numbers do not come close to even Sawchuck, let alon Roy and Brodeur. Look up his stats the year Buffalo went to the Cup against Dallas, then look up the offensive numbers of that team and tell me how many teams in the East should have beaten them that year. When Miro Satan is your top scorer in a Cup run, you have a pretty good argument for best ever.

For the record, Brodeur was a close second as anyone who is able to get the rules changed because of his unique ability, is an all-time elite netminder.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 13, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I was never a fan of Hasek

probably just blind hate, he was fun to watch, but I always thought it was mostly for show. I still take Roy

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

too much of a head case for me

those MTL and COL teams were stacked with good talent, so his job was a little easier, iMO. Just like the system helped Brodeur immensly with his career numbers. And Roy was a head case. If I was the opposing coach, I have my enforcer slew-foot him, nicely, in the first minute of the game every time and he sucks after that, lol.

Honestly, game 7 SC finals, I take prime Hasek without question regardless of the team in front of him. I can’t say that for either Brodeur or Roy.

I truly believe that prime Hasek in NJ could have come close to 20 shut-outs in a season.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 13, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

And Roy was a head case

my formative hockey years were spent watching Hextall, probably why I like Roy so much.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

of course Roy was a headcase

he had a chat with his goal posts before every game! lol

by Newfie3 on Feb 13, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

that isn't normal?

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

both I guess

goalies are a strange lot to begin with

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

the flyers are destroying him

they need to just let Brizzy be Brizzy. They knew what he was when they gave him the big contract and now they are trying to sensor him, and I feel it is affecting his play.

I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.

Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

seems like no matter what, once you are tossed into the Flyers goalie realm, you wil have problems

Philly are a good team, but i wont even bother getting any of their goalies in the fantasy league…they are too messed up

by Newfie3 on Feb 13, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

if anything

it’s feeling pretty controled by zuffa’s interest but more than times than not, fights deliver

pride never die.

by vhw_ on Feb 12, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Cards are being watered down, fighters are fighting safe as there is only 1 premier organization to fight in, monopoly is a bad thing. Over-saturation, way too many cards from the UFC.

It’s nowhere near as exciting as it was years ago, despite the fact there’s more talented fighters nowadays. Numbers don’t lie and people are losing interest in MMA. Worrying times for ZUFFA.

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by danago on Feb 12, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

oh shit

I can’t disagree with anything you said. What is the world coming to??

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

hairy

you have to wonder if its Jesse or Geno who wrote that

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by Phasebook on Feb 14, 2012 5:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't feel the cards are watered down, or that the sport is getting boring, I think it is getting more competitive.

In my opinion the talent gap between top fighters and mid-carders is smaller than ever. There isn’t much of difference between the 3 – 9 ranked fighters as there is between the 10 – 17 rank fighters. That is causing closer match ups, which many people are considering “boring”. Take strikeforce as an example, people thought they were putting on great shows last year because of all the finishes, but the reason there was so many finishes, was the amount of mismatches they were booking. All in all, I still feel that there are more good matches on every card, than there are bad matches.

I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

Fighters have to earn the right to be in title contention......

the main difference is that we’re now getting an opportunity to see fighters earn their way, as opposed to reading about it. Back in the day, it was rare to see consecutive PPV events without a belt being up for grabs…….now we see many cards that don’t include title fights…..to me, that’s OK as I just like to watch fights….i don’t need there to be a title at stake. Granted, the cards with title fights tend to have a lot more electricity going in, but many of these cards (like this wednesday’s for example) end up delivering awesome fights. It’s like Dana say’s….“If you don’t like it, then don’t buy/watch it.”

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by kg12 on Feb 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

I think all of u so far bring up good points

KG12, wed fights bring up something else. Who here gets fuel tv? I dont! dont know anyone of my friends that do. I have WOW, my friend has Comcast, who carries fuel?

by mspenc24 on Feb 12, 2012 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

I also have Comcast...

and it sucks that they don’t carry FuelTV. I do know that DirecTV has it……and many sports bars have DirecTV because of Football season……so check with your local sports bar. I have one right around the corner from my house, so I plan on having dinner there and watching the fights….

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by kg12 on Feb 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I have fuel on directtv.

The numbers that fuel will get/is getting will force more cable companies to pick them up

by Johnny Ballgame on Feb 12, 2012 1:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

if you send them an email in bold, I'm sure they will read it

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I sent them an email in bold.....

and I said if they didn’t pick up Fuel TV, I’d be switching to DirecTV. Some Bitch replied back with the following…….“Shut up Fag, that’s just another emtpy threat. Go ahead and switch, you still have your internet and phone thru us, and we’ll charge you up the ass if you switch.” At the end of the day, she’s right, it’s an empty threat….i’m too lazy to switch. Aside from not having FuelTV, I’m pretty happy with Comcast.

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by kg12 on Feb 12, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a magic button that allows you to reply to somone on this website?

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

Ya man I kind of dislike this era also, I still don't see why people like Jon Jones

JBJ basically is only a wrestler that is able to try weird stuff on the feet because he has long arms, and they barely even land since the Bonnar spinning elbow

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by Elitex10x on Feb 12, 2012 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

He’s fought guys like Vera, Bader, Rampage, Shogun, and Machida.

and…

HES FINISHED THEM after dominating them.

If you don’t like JJ’s fight style, what do you look for?

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by *Californication* on Feb 12, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t like the overrated stand up, though he has a good elbows with his ground and pound that is how majority of his fights have ended in the same way takedown then elbow in the head leads to the victory (ex. Vera, Vlad, Shogun, Rampage, Machida) Wanna see him start to change it up a bit get more crisp with his straight boxing and rock a couple more people on the feet.

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by Elitex10x on Feb 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He battered the fuck out of Shogun

and he didn’t take Chida down then finish. He standing head severed him.






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by *Californication* on Feb 12, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

A decent fighter but not a fan of the guy…good wrestler, overrated striking, arrogant attitude

Just saying the wrestling leads to everything for him, he’s young and the striking is still improving. Shogun was off from the initial one knee and the elbows and wrestling gassed him out for JBJ to be able to finish him on the feet in the 3rd.

Machida was throwing him off with the striking so he took Machida down and landed his usual elbow then did the finish shortly

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by Elitex10x on Feb 12, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

If u watch closely

JBJ setup the finish with a beautiful superman type punch. He knew Machida was throwing st8 (just for u cagenerd) left every time he threw a kick. So he faked the kick and came with the punch. That setup Machida to be finished, not the takedown. Now did takedown help yeah sure. But his standup is what really setup choke.

by mspenc24 on Feb 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yea it was kind of slick, I’ll see what he can do with Rashad.

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by Elitex10x on Feb 12, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I know what he will do with Rashad

Beat him.

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not gonna beat Shad.....

he’s gonna DESTROY him. This is a terrible matchup for Rashad. Striking, grappling, wrestling, Jones is better everywhere. The only question is Cardio, only because nobody (except Page) has made it past the 3rd round against Jones.

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by kg12 on Feb 12, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think I agree that Jones is better everywhere. You think Jones is as quick as Rashad? Do you think he is a better wrestler than Rashad? Not sure abut the second one. I think Rashad is quicker than Jones. Can he use his quickness to close the distance? That is the question.

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by crizzy on Feb 13, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll buy that regarding Shad's quickness.....

he may be quicker, but JBJ’s length pretty much nullifies that advantage. Shad may be a better collegiate wrestler, but I’m not convinced that he’s a better MMA wrestler.

I failed to mention JBJ’s biggest advantage, which is size. He’s so much bigger than Shad, and everyone else in the division, I just can’t see anyone beating this guy. As long as he can comfortably make that weight cut, he’ll continue to win.

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by kg12 on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure Jones has an advantage in size, fight smarts, strength, submissions and a huge reach advantage. Jones has a much better chance of winning, i would feel pretty sure about that.

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by crizzy on Feb 13, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Dumbest comment of the week.

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by mythbuster on Feb 12, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

KO somebody Jon

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by Elitex10x on Feb 12, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He's got 2 KO wins

I’d rather watch him beat people up like the beating he laid on Rua.

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm voting for decade, not even this year

Jones brings it everytime. He’s only been to 2 decisions and is an exciting fighter.

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by hairybumcrack on Feb 12, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty good piece, but...

You are not texting right now. You are writing an article for lots of people to read, and reading this, everytime I read some, u r n the UFC, kinda bullshit. It made me feel stupid, take the extra half a second to spell it out, please.

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by CageNerd on Feb 12, 2012 1:40 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Srsly!!!!!!!! LOL

U r reading a blogsite, not a newspaper. So STFU Nerd

by mspenc24 on Feb 12, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

CageNerd is right

no reason to not type out the words. It may only be a blog, but leave the text style writing for Twitter

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Its just lazy

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by Rampagelangford on Feb 12, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s no reason for him to type out full words neither, it’s his post. Stop being petty you ponse.

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by danago on Feb 12, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

its ponce shithead!

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
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by scott1 on Feb 12, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

you have to forgive him

he isn’t really English

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

No it isn’t, chump.

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by danago on Feb 12, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Ponse
A piss-poor attempt at spelling ponce.

A wannabe gangsta big radio ponse

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha! ^

and it is ponce so stfu danago you square

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by Rampagelangford on Feb 12, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

lol!

I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...

by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 12, 2012 2:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Language is important, since it can convey the things people respect

Intelligence, wisdom, insight, and attention to detail

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by unambig on Feb 12, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Love your sig unambig

2nd word (tho) thats intelligent of you to use that instead of though. Must not have been paying attention to detail when you cam up with your sig.

by mspenc24 on Feb 12, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't spell check when I lose sig bets

Sufficed to say my spelling to misspelling ratio on my own terms is about 99.99:1

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 12, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

In my opinion, it’s just you. MMA has been awesome lately.

by budgellism on Feb 12, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with some of what you've written

Especially fixing the 10-9 boxing scores. A possible solution would be to create a three-point scoring system per round for boxing, grappling and wrestling.

The person who outscores in kicks and punches gets a point. The person who outwrestles the other gets a point. And the person who uses jujitsu to gain advantage (back control, full mount) gets a point. That way you can 3-0 rounds or 2-1. Over a three round fight you can have a 9-0 score.

It makes more sense than 30-27. I mean, what’s 10-9 for?

By the way, I hate the 3-minute idea. If anything, the rounds are too short as they are.

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 12, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

unambig what if

the 2 fighters stand the whole round and there is no grappling or bjj or anything else? Then how would u score round? Take condit-Diaz again, who wins some of those rounds based on your scoring?

by mspenc24 on Feb 12, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you score it 1-0 for the standup

You don’t need to hand out the same points every round.

With Condit-Diaz you could probably score Condit a point for winning the standup in round 5 and Diaz for winning the grappling.

I just watched the fight again and I think where the judges got it wrong was in counting all these baby counters by Condit. He didn’t really offer any significant strikes until the third or fourth round. Despite outstriking Diaz in rounds 1 and 2, I’d give Diaz the better of the standup for landing the more relevant strikes.

Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209

by unambig on Feb 12, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone thinks the "good old days" were the best days.

Those who are just becoming fans now get to watch a great HW division, Jon Jones epic rise, Anderson Silva fight his first “villain” etc etc.

And 10 years from now, when the UFC is bigger and better than ever, they’ll remember the “good old days” of today………..

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 12, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

The cards lately have been shit.

Boozer sucks.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 12, 2012 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

While it had some exciting finishes

It still lacked star power.

Cut down on all these ppvs and they’ll be able to put some mammoth cards together.

Boozer sucks.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 12, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck that.....

UFC 142 had 10 fights…only 3 went to a decision. There were 3 KO’s, 3 submissions and 1 disqualification. Aside from the fact that Brazilians won 8 out of 10 fights, that was a great card.

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by kg12 on Feb 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t care why u r gassing, don’t gas, u r a professional athlete.

Good one. I dont care if you just got kicked in the stomach 10 times, just dont gas!!

by Newfie3 on Feb 13, 2012 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Im directing more towards the unprepared fighters

The guys who come in and u can take one look at their body and tell the havent been training enough. Guys who like Anthony Johnson gassed because of his weight cut. U had months to get your body to the proper wait to have a proper cut. I dont care about your cut, thats your fault for being unprepared. Im talking about the guys who blame ring rust for gassing. Is ring rust a real thing, yeah. But that just means u have to put in the extra work in your training to account for that. U wont see GSP gas because of ring rust, i bet u any money. U wont see Diaz gas cause he got kick in the stomach 10 times. If u r a professional and come in 100% prepared u wont gas. U may get more tired certain fights because how that fight is going. BUt u wont gas where u have your friggin hand on your knees looking like u r gonna keel over.

by mspenc24 on Feb 13, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

what about Shogun vs Jones?

or Shogun vs Hendo?

Shogun is known to gas i know, but his last two fights his body has taken an ass whoopin

by Newfie3 on Feb 13, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

After many many years of fandom

the shine starts wear off a bit. All the major competition has been gobbled up and instead of getting promotions who are trying to put the best fights possible on, we are getting watered down events and the sport really seems to be going backwards.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 13, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

Deuce, I disagree

After almost 18 years of watching MMA, I still get nervous before the main event, it’s a weird rush, that as a fan I have only experienced when my hometown teams were playing for a championship. I still get that feeling at every event, and I love it. Sure, some of that feeling is me living vicariously through the fighters, but mostly it is the unknown, the one shot can end the fight, pure, raw, physicality that makes MMA the greatest sport in the world to me. I for one, hope that feeling never leaves me, and if it ever does, that will be a sad day.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I still get excited as well

For the big fights. Which just seem to be fewer and fewer and fewer. This sport used to be so little like boxing in that regard and now it seems to following that mold more and more. I dono, I am disenchanted right now.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Feb 13, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

no, there's not

and yes it is.

I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.

Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Shooto is still doing just fine

And they’ve got some kickass fighters, like Kyoji Horiguchi.

by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 14, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

No they're not

And no he’s not

Overeem is sexy and he knows it.

by jay. on Feb 15, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't care about what happens in Japan

They can keep their version of MMA where it is.

What do the experts think of Ueda anyway? Where’s he ranked? Has he broken the top 30 yet?

Overeem is sexy and he knows it.

by jay. on Feb 16, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

There clearly has been a flood of MMA events over the past couple of years.

I think hardcore fans really notice it and don’t want to see the sport diluted with mainstream casual fans.

But, more fans equals more money which could equal a better production with better fights.

I don’t think its become boring. I think most hardcore fans have developed a high MMA tolerance and need high potency MMA . Not just a bunch of medicore fights.

I’ve always liked MMA. I felt like it was my sport and I didn’t want to share.

Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.

by t goose on Feb 13, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

ITS DEFINITELY YOU!!

MMA HAS BEEN CRAZY LATELY

TO MUCH FUN TO WATCH

by Austin Broussard on Feb 15, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions  


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