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Saturday Night's Mania Event: Jones vs Evans and Silva vs Sonnen rivalries to heat up UFC in down year

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Mixed martial arts (MMA), by design, is built to cultivate rivalries. Indeed, the literal definition of the word is "competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field."

In the UFC, dating all the way back to the beginning, rivalries are what has helped the promotion subsist. Prosper, even. There's a reason the most successful box office bouts of all time have been borne of bad blood. Some form of deep seated rivalry helps tell a story that viewers and fans can connect to.

Some MMA purists don't like to admit as much but the drama that comes with legitimate issues outside the cage that manifest themselves inside it are what drives interest. I can't connect with Brock Lesnar because I don't identify with him in any way. I'll never go through a rigorous training camp in preparation for a fight. I'll never sit in front of cameras and have countless media members bombarding me with questions at press conferences. I'll never get my weight documented in my underwear while thousands of fans look on and photogs snap pictures of me.

Lastly, I'll never climb inside a cage, have it locked behind me, and attempt to maim a fellow human being (even if I sometimes want to).

It's for all these reasons that his rivalry with Frank Mir was so special. Because it gave me a reason to care not just about him or his fight, but a vested interest in the outcome of said fight.

Star-divide

Lesnar and Mir had met once before, in Brock's debut in the UFC. After initially brutalizing the Brazilian jiu-jitsu specialist, the former WWE superstar made a rookie mistake and left himself wide open for a submission, one Mir wasted little time in exploiting.

A few short taps later and that was all she wrote.

By the time the two hooked up for a rematch, there was bad blood. Really bad. Mir had run his mouth from the moment he was first matched up against Lesnar, calling him out for his association with pro wrestling, his inexperience, his failure in the first fight, his meathead reputation; nothing was off limits. He was as cocky and insufferable as possible.

Lesnar, of course, didn't take kindly to all this, vowing to hulk smash Mir through the mat when they finally had their rematch. And when they did, that's exactly what happened. At UFC 100 -- the most successful pay-per-view in the history of MMA at 1.6 million buys -- Lesnar knocked Mir senseless with a series of blows that had Mir's face looking like uncooked hamburger.

It was glorious. Why, you ask?

Because this time I had a vested interest. This time, the rivalry sucked me in and gave me a reason to care beyond the sporting aspect. I hated Mir for being such a cocky prick, thinking his shit didn't stink. His attack on pro wrestling and Brock's history there is something I can relate to because I still get attacked for my pro wrestling fandom today.

I wanted Lesnar to shut him up and prove him wrong. That just because Brock came from the scripted entertainment business doesn't mean he can't turn you into a bumbling pile of mush.

Countless others felt the same, albeit in their own special way. That's a big reason so many folks paid to see it. Combining Lesnar's charisma and star power that he carried over from WWE, the rivalry with Mir made boku bucks for all involved and gave MMA fans a thrilling conclusion to an awesome feud between two people who legitimately didn't like each other.

Which brings me to today.

We, as fans of the sport, are lucky that in a year that won't feature Brock Lesnar (who retired) and may not see a Georges St. Pierre fight (knee injury) there are two different rivalry match-ups that promise all the greatness of every major rivalry before it.

I'm talking, of course, about Chael Sonnen vs. Anderson Silva and Rashad Evans vs. Jon Jones.

In the case of the former, it's a rematch of one of the greatest fights in the history of the UFC. The two tussled back in Aug. 2010 in a five-round classic that saw Sonnen overwhelm the champion in a way no other fighter inside the Octagon had ever come close to. But he fell short by just a few minutes, as "The Spider" used his long limbs to ensnare his prey in a submission to keep his title.

Sonnen used hard work and a big mouth to talk his way into the fight and damn near backed up his big talk once he got it. It was incredible. Silva's Hail Mary submission was equally amazing. There was widespread speculation that he deliberately let Sonnen do most of what he did but there's no way to know for sure.

Unless Silva bombs him in the rematch and proves without a shadow of a doubt that he's the superior fighter.

Either way, the press tour is almost already in full swing and a date hasn't even been locked down yet. Sonnen is carrying around a fake title and claiming he's the true champion. His antics are getting increasingly ridiculous but it works because it makes us care.

Silva still hates his guts and it shows in every interview he does when the subject of his next opponent comes up. He's tired of dealing with this troll and now he'll get the chance to vanquish him into the depths, once and for all.

And we get to bear witness, my friends.

The other match-up could be just as good if not better. Not because the bout is intriguing for all the potential outcomes. Quite the contrary, in fact, Jones opened as a huge favorite over Evans at -600. That's almost unheard of in championship fights when you're talking about the best in the world.

But this goes beyond actual fighting.

The long and short of it is Jones and Evans were training partners at one time, close enough to refer to themselves as brothers instead of just friends. But once a title came into the picture, things changed. "Bones" had a meteoric rise to the top, going from zero to hero in short order and leapfrogging "Suga" Rashad to win the light heavyweight championship.

All the while the two maintained they wouldn't fight -- or at least Evans did -- until Ariel Helwani asked Jones about potentially defending his belt against his friend.

And he said yes.

Doesn't seem like a big deal but considering the two trained at Greg Jackson's Gym down in New Mexico, it caused a ripple effect felt by many. Evans was pressured to respond in kind, lest he be called a punk and take a P.R. hit, and the shit hit the proverbial fan not long after.

It was only a matter of time before Evans had left his longtime home at Jackson's to train in Florida and has since created a team of his own. Jones remained loyal to Jackson, but the team was divided between two men they considered friends.

Drama!

Nightclub confrontations ensued and every chance they get, the media makes sure to get a juicy quote from one about the other. And they're both all to eager to provide them, throwing dirt on one another's names.

And it's all leading to their showdown at UFC 145 on April 21 in Atlanta, Georgia.

To summarize, there's been a lot to feel down about with the UFC this year. Early events like UFC 142 and UFC on Fox 2 have been duds. Even a UFC 143 main event match-up pitting Carlos Condit vs. Nick Diaz failed to live up to what was, admittedly enough, overblown expectations.

And, as stated, Lesnar is gone forever and St. Pierre is out until at least November, maybe even later. It's a depressing time with little to get excited about.

Except for the culmination of two great rivalries that promise to deliver in every what imaginable.

Can't wait, Maniacs.

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no shit sherlock

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Feb 11, 2012 10:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You better change your sig

Unless you mean xfc or something because thats the only place diaz will become champ.

by mma guru on Feb 11, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

lmao..+10 for a Gilly the Kid gif...that dude is unintentionally hilarious

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Feb 12, 2012 6:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

diaz is a sook

All he does is whine and complain till he gets his way makes him look like a douche bitch, bit like you.. :)

by PabloisChopps on Feb 12, 2012 3:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes.

That fight is booked, according to Lorenzo Fertitta. Just needs a date and a venue.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Feb 11, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

good SNME, general..

i love me a good grudge match..

im looking forward to both of the fights you mentioned… i still can’t believe bones is a -600 fav.. not like i think he’s losing or anything, but rashad ain’t nothing to sneeze at..

i think Anderson will make quick work of Sonnen this time around… Rashad will put up a fight, but im certain jones has what it takes to finish another top5 LHW.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 11, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

hey stink

Wtf bro im drunk and all but dnt u find it disgusting that people think condit won

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Feb 11, 2012 10:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i thought diaz won rounds 1,2 & 5.. when i watched it live i thought it he took the 3rd as well..

it was a very close fight on account of greg jacksons gay ass plan to win on points..

no robbery,

but im disgusted with how greg jackson turned a natural born killer into a ginger bread champ..

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 11, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

…it was a very close fight on account of greg jacksons gay ass awesome plan to strategize and not fight like a moron and fight Diaz’s fight and if Diaz was a real man he would stand in the CENTER of the cage and throw bombs with Condit instead of being a pussy and trying to wrassle him up onto the cage first. But alas, Diaz had his own pussy plan so Condit out witted the twit and used his own game plan to win. I just wish that fucking pussy Diaz would sack up and just stand and trade int he center of the cage instead of trying to pitter patter his way to win on points..

Fixed it

\m/

by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 12, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

that was the biggest fix ever

Were can i send ur grand prize a dual sided dilly

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Feb 12, 2012 12:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

jokes on u i have two dads u fag

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Feb 12, 2012 12:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hahaha, curious how you exist without a mother?

Still had to be birthed and we all know you from the 209 so dat mean you still live in hers basement.

\m/

by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 12, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

that was such a lame fix.

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 12, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

and to be honest.

this thread has absolutly zero to do with anything condit/diaz related..

might as well hit up another thread.. there’s only millions of them..

it was a close fight regardless.. thats all i really have to say in this thread.

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 12, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

lol, you're the one who failed.

i was talking to my home boy 209stk

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 12, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i read it back. lol you're right, i was talking to you.

only thing is i wasn’t suggesting you brought it up.. it was more like a comment in general..

i had said to my homie 209stk that this wasn’t the thread to pop this convo up in..

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 12, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

actually makes u normal

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Feb 12, 2012 1:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Holy...

Shit. This may be the greatest response I’ve ever read.

by Sergio Hernandez on Feb 12, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

im guessing you are referring to the one that included the gem...

But alas, Diaz had his own pussy plan so Condit out witted the twit and used his own game plan to win.
If you consider staying in some ones face and punching them in the face a pussy plan,, then you obviously gain no cred from me…. And that is coming from a guy who has little if no beef with carlos winning.

by letstalkmma on Feb 12, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude you need to get over it

Its not “disgusting” if either one of them won. It was a close fight. Dont leave it in the hand of the judges. Its not like diaz was dominant he barely did anything. Niether did condit. Plus diaz needs to grow up, acting like a bitch when shit doesnt go his way. Like STFU, so many people have it way worse and you’re going to complain about losing a close mma fight in which no man was dominant. Just shut up go back to work and finish the next time. Plus what an idiot with the Marjuana thing

Get a new hero 209stl

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by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 11, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

ok my bad

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Feb 12, 2012 12:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dear god, no.

Not this in this thread. There are a million other threads for it. Do we have to do this again, here?

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Feb 11, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

very true, general.

i was actually glad you did a SNME, so i could get away from some of that.. haha

didn’t even realize when i was answering his question that i had fallen into a diaz topic yet again.

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 11, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Just noticed your sig.

Couldn’t agree more.

Dak, if you’re seeing this, we miss you, brother.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Feb 12, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

i copied it from, ulf

who copied it from ojr..

join the club, geno.

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 12, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

its the talk of the town dude

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Feb 12, 2012 12:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I can't fucking wait for Rashad vs Jones.

Evans is different from everyone else simply because he’s been in the training rooms with him, seen him at his best and seen him at his worst. That counts for a lot. Jones is a goddamn beast inside the cage, a shithole of a guy outside it from what I hear, but there’s no denying how talented he is. He probably wins but I want to think Evans can do it.

As for Silva, I agree with you. He’s going to clown Sonnen. Won’t make it out of the first round.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Feb 11, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i know what you mean about the rashad/jones fight... there's a whole different kind of hype there..

Alot of people are not a fan of jon jones the person(me included)… but jon jones the fighter is something else.. i hope it can be competitve, but i think jon is going to make rashad look bad.

Mania is not quite Mania without Dakatak. Come back soon, Dak.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 11, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I find it harder and harder to believe any of Jones' next opponents are gonna hold their end.

It’s like Disney movies, past a certain age, the magic doesn’t work anymore. I can already see Evans’ body lying unconscious on the mat.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Feb 11, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i see what you did an its not going to work geno

You changed the topic back to the real topic but I caught you read handed an we are going to go back to condit vs diaz until the outcome changes or until every thread we have nick&Carlos thread!

by smokealot on Feb 12, 2012 12:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ive come to like JJ, hes good for the sport

He will most likely choke out rashad

Silva sonnen no idea what the hell is going to happen

One can't be Catholic, and a grown up

by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 11, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

I honestly see more question marks in the Shad and Jones fight than Silva vs Sonnen.

The thing is Silva will adapt, he will learn and change where as Sonnen will fight the same way he has always fought always.

\m/

by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 12, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

ehh idk man

Point blank: you feel rashad has a better chance beating jones than Sonnen beating Silva?

One can't be Catholic, and a grown up

by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 12, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok fair enough

One can't be Catholic, and a grown up

by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 12, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

Silva is gonna clown Chael because he wants to…..and that’s all that he really needs.
i do not think Rashad is gonna win, but we still have unanswered questions about Jones. the biggest one and most relevant to this fight is how he can work off his back. i still think (not rationally, mind you) that Rashad can get Jones off his feet

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by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 12, 2012 4:24 AM EST up reply actions  

great article however

Explain to me how Jose Mendes was a dud to you?

I’m not resting until I’m officially Anderson Silva status.- Jon "Bones" Jones

by AfroSamurai on Feb 11, 2012 10:50 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Yea 142 was solid

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by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 11, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

142 was epic

EPIC

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 11, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

From a business perspective

and casual interest. I mean it beforehand, you know, like before UFC 142, no one really cared. It was a damn good event in the end but it didn’t create large scale excitement.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Feb 12, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Hate Jon

I hope that Rashad will [din thomas voice] kiss his ass [/din thomas voice]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrGnG42ktVI
0:36

"When you believe in something and you're a good person...things happen" - Junior Dos Santos

by Elitex10x on Feb 11, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, the bad blood fuels interest

However, these grudge matches still lack one element that would raise them to the level of great grudge matches of the past: unpredictability.

When Ali and Frazier get into the ring, you genuinely feel the fight could go either way. This suspense adds to the sense of anticipation. With Mayweather-Pacquiao, you’re not really sure who would win. But despite the omnipresent possibility of an upset, does anyone really think Rashad will beat Jones, or Sonnen trounce Silva? There isn’t that sense of suspenseful anticipation to spice up the drama.

BTW, if you’re talking about exciting grudge matches this year, how in the world could you leave out Tate-Rousey?

by Motmaitre on Feb 11, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

for me, i think anderson will end it quickly.. but i would imagine since sonnen took it to the champ for 4+ rounds, alot of people wonder 'what if sonnen didn't get triangled'..

and Since rashad has trained with jones, along with that almost flawless record, i think some people(not as many as the silva/chael fight) think this could go either way..

pretty much exactly what geno was talking about in his post. lol….

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 11, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

‘what if sonnen didn’t get triangled’..

Then he would have been champ for about a week, until the fight was changed to a no contest and Silva got his belt back, because Chael had 16 times more Testosterone in his body than the average male does naturally.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Stink. I think Silva puts a furious beating on Sonnen this time around. Chael is a tough bastard, which will be the only reason he lasts to the second round. and I am a big fan of Sonnen.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Feb 12, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I have it ending in the 2nd rnd too

but it wouldn’t surprise me if Silva takes him out in the 1st.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Graet point

I feel with jones, evans its going to be jones all the way, but with silva sonne, who knows honestly

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by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 11, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

if anything i see sonnen being a huge reminder to a bunch of idiots what the spider can do .. agan

and in my opinion i think rashad is basically jones’ chael . rashad is a problem for jones if he cant choke him out .

bloody queef bubble

by wooly shambler on Feb 11, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a hard time seeing Sonnen get TKOed

But I really have no idea what to expect in this fight, I just know its probably going to be crazy

As far as rashad/jones, I just feel jones is so far ahead of everyone in that division.
If it wasnt for jones 5 guys could probably be champion

One can't be Catholic, and a grown up

by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 11, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i think jones is a freak , an absolute specimen but i also feel like that division is way too deep to be praising him the way we do

the way i look at it is shogun is like the lotto and jones got to fight him when he was chubby brawler. shogun is overrated.
he then fought the ‘best’ rampage in years , which if that was the case then i hope rampage puts as much effort as he did on his conditioning into learning more than uppercuts hooks and tdd . And it took him 4 rounds of staying away from rampage and at one point sprinting away from him ( and were mad at condit , smh) to finish the job .
along comes machida , makes jones look foolish in the first round on the feet . Then fucks up with a minute left in the 2nd by not moving laterally away from the fence and gets choked . had it gone to a 3rd round , meh who knows . And yet the only thing people remebered and talked about was him getting the choke after the elbow and dropping machida lifeless (and later the whole lets make some fans thing from greg) . My point is we all ignore that first round where it was obvious jones is an athlete with reach when it comes to his standup discipline. were so quick to reminisce about sonnen beating on silva for 4 rounds even though he was roided up etc . But with jones its like we forget how young he is and how good the 205 division is. We forget about his fights with gusmao and how he wanted nothing to do with veras stand up . Jones is amazing , i wont lie or hate but without any knockout power and true substance to his stand up yet , rashad is more than a morsel to the monster . If he doesnt out cardio rashad and or choke him its a real good fight in my opinion .

as for silva sonnen 2 , i think we saw the best sonnen we will ever see in silva vs sonnen 1 . Against bisping we saw what happens against a good game plan and well rounded fighter when youre not soaked with testosterone . silva is the greatest fighter alive and fighting him in brazil after hes healed up a bit and had months and months to train , while also remembering what sonnens fighting style is all about , i feel chael is in for a serious ass beating . His bumrush offense at the beginning of round one against silva will be effective again because of his brute strength but i expect once silva is loose and back on his feet hell have to tools to keep distance (front kick) and finish at the sign of a takedown or straight ahead flurry(knee , straight left , or kick .)
And just like last time except he now knows chaels “blueprint” and chael isnt full of test , silva will have 25 minutes to use his blackbelt in bjj to choke or tap chael again.

bloody queef bubble

by wooly shambler on Feb 12, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Your probably right with sonnen silva

Silvas the man and he will do what he always does…win

But with your assesment of Jones, I sense a little bit of disdain or bitterness towards him, and believe me I get it. Thats how I felt about him before the Page fight, but since then, watching some interviews, hes doing the best he can with the media. We all say he is cocky but compared to ali is he the most humble guy in the world. And I honestly feel for a guy with all that talent, he has a good head on his shoulders, thats all we can ask for.

As for as the 205 division, its all but over. Yes the division is good but he has all but wiped it out. Yes he has rashad left but after that, theres nothing really…maybe gufstasson. Hendo is awesome but im sorry, mark it down for a first or second round sub for jones.

Against machida, machida had about 2 maybe 3 good flurries in what was a prettyuneventful first round. We were all just freaking out because OMG someone tagged jones!!!! So in reality, it was much, certainly didnt make him look foolish. The second was all jones, and look even before jones pinned chida against the caged he actually dropped him (go back and watch it, i swear it happened)…Point is, Jones beats machida 9 ou of 10 times

Against page, page was in great shape and probably wouldve taken jones head off if he had landed but the simple fact is…Jones is a stylistic NIGHTMARE for rampage. Jones win that fight almost everytime

Against shogun, he absoltely thrashed him..no explaining

Against vera…didnt watch it, but all I know is vera was out for over a year with a broken face

Against guzmao, I believe it was his first fight, still dominated for the most part, but he has come a long way from there and is so MUCH better than he was the fight its not even funny.

Point is…i know long post lol…Jones is the man and he is going to shit on everyone in the 205 division….and we better get used to it. Now jones against JDS….who knows??

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by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 12, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

im totally on board with you about how great he is etc , i just think that the closer he gets to plateauing the more people with stop training just as a mixed martial artist and the more contenders will be training for months and months for jones .

i think hell be champ for a while and in all honesty id take machida 3/10 times and rashad 1/10 . but well see , i just think 2 great years isnt sustainable in that divison for long . as for moving up to heavyweight – i think he keeps his weight low year round for a reason .
Jones moving to hw would be like frankie moving to 170 , he’d dissapoint himself and many fans in that class . but we need him at 205 and although he annoys me its great that he makes that division have to try so much harder.

bloody queef bubble

by wooly shambler on Feb 12, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah 205 historically is the toughest division so yeah I agree

I think we both can also agree on: It would be FREAKING AWESOME to see JDS stalk jones down and land a one hitter quitter

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by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 12, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

id cum through the time and space continuum

and even more so if silva did that as a retirement fight.

bloody queef bubble

by wooly shambler on Feb 12, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahah Silva finishes Jones in his last fight AWESOME

Just imagine Jones trying to be all cool and calm right before facing this guy

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by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 12, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

queue the slash

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 12, 2012 3:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Jones vs Rashad

has all the makings and was really heating up several months ago… But by now, I feel like there was more hype for Rampage vs Suga….

But I guess there’s still lots of time to build it up more?

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 11, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

That was because of TUF

The Jones Rashad is not getting 10% of the media-time Rashad-Rampage got.

I'm 20 years in and I still win.

by RRRenan on Feb 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of the shit talk.

To me, the excitement is about the skillset matchup. I’ll admit though, there are some fighters that I always hope to lose. I guess that ads a bit more interest to the fight. What I really can’t stand is when a fighter is just so boring to watch that they refer to phony antics to draw attention to themselves.

by FullMount on Feb 12, 2012 12:11 AM EST reply actions  

Off topic

I’m just watching King of the Cage with Cecil Peoples reffing. I just caught the end of the fight, the scores were being read…and I was thinkin to myself “funny if Cecil raises the wrong hand”…and guess what…HE DID! The winner turned to him and said: “umm, that’s me.”

What a retard.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Feb 12, 2012 12:38 AM EST reply actions  

So ive benn studying anthropology a little bit recently

And it gets me thinking, some people just arent as GOOD as others…you know? Like Im sure cecil tries to do the right things and tries to score things correctly, but genetically, is just isnt as good as others. Like he is qualified, but no matter what, hes always good for a fuck up, and thats just cecil being cecil

I feel like thats the case for ilfe too, like when you see ignorant people about race and politically issues, like when there just so close minded. I feel like those people are just genetically not as good or were raised bad

I kid you not, this one chick (who used to be a friend) said to me once when we were talking about social classes…and I quote " Its not MY fault that my relatives and ancestors worked their butts off while other peoples didnt…like get over it"
I just got up and left after that
Her head was so far up her ass, I just couldnt be around that

One can't be Catholic, and a grown up

by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 12, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

WTF down year?

Am I the only person that does not see this as a down year? I think this year will be the biggest MMA and the UFC has seen. Things have happened and cards or fights didnt live up to the hype so far but its only FEB! Chill the fuck out man! Im getting sick of geno quit posting this garbage on MMAmania so I dont have to read it!!!
Thanks,
Rowdy

by Rowdy Rowdy Radloff on Feb 12, 2012 12:51 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

genos the man

numbers wise…so far its a down year
UFC on fox 2 couldve BEEN A LOT better, im not complaining though
and Genos the man

So you can either like it or GTFO

One can't be Catholic, and a grown up

by ItalianStallion54 on Feb 12, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Brock Lesnar is retired and GSP is hurt

and you think this will be the biggest year ever? Based on what?

And no, I won’t stop posting on MMAmania. That’s what they pay me to do, my man.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Feb 12, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha
And no, I won’t stop posting on MMAmania. That’s what they pay me to do, my man.

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by ricky~dooby on Feb 12, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Geno was mean to me

in the Arianny thread the other day.

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 12, 2012 3:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Really?

My sincerest apologies.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Feb 12, 2012 4:13 AM EST up reply actions  

no hard feelings

haha

"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Feb 12, 2012 5:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesome Geno

Seems like it’s been ages since a SNME.
Nothing like a little drama to pump up a fight.
Sonnen is going to get mauled. So is Rashad.
But damned if I don’t care anyway, thanks to the bad blood.

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by Scottidog on Feb 12, 2012 3:01 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

it is truly amazing what rivalry can do to overcome the acceptable outcome of complete routes.

"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow

by F'n Clownshoes on Feb 12, 2012 4:29 AM EST up reply actions  

ruuushard is my pick

good odds i hear, plus i kinda like rashad, his quite entertaining and charismatic, not like a robot like goodboy jones, but damn that kid can fight

I'm being honest about this smoking weed separated me from the holy spirit... It came between me and Jesus. - Diego Sanchez

by Kronic on Feb 12, 2012 4:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh

I don’t find either fight all that interesting myself. I have never been a hype guy though, I am more interested in a good match up. I think the JDS/Reem fight is going to be friggin epic. I was hoping for a Mir/Werdum fight too, sucks that they didn’t put it together. The other fight I am really psyched to see is the GP finals. Barnett vs. Cormier should be very interesting. Edgar Bendo is a very interesting match up too.

I think Jones will make easy work of Evans, and Silva will make easy work of Sonnen. Sonnen had his perfect storm (silva injury, Sonnen roided up) and still lost. Sonnen has some great talk but in the cage, he has never lived up to his mouth (other than maybe the Stann fight).

"He's got a great package... and an unusual one!" Joe Rogan (of Lyoto Machida)

by crizzy on Feb 12, 2012 7:33 AM EST reply actions  

I’ll never get my weight documented in my underwear while thousands of fans look on and photogs snap pictures of me.

and we thank you for this

I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.

Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

well whoever pays you needs to reconsider because I use to enjoy reading your posts now I feel alot of them are more negative. I want honesty but not to be biased. Number wise is number wise fuck brock we will be ok without him. GSP will return only to get beaten by Carlos!!! Mark my words and you can all remember me saying this. 2012 will be the biggest year in UFC history. Bet dana would agree with me!!! lol =)

by Rowdy Rowdy Radloff on Feb 12, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

This is going to be a great year for the UFC thanks to several high profile match ups like Evans vs. Jones and Silva vs. Sonnen 2. But it’s also going to be a year where alot of so called unbeatable and untouchable fighters get exposed big time, Rashad is going to smash Jones and Sonnen is going to finish what he started at UFC 117. This year will be a year of new blood and champions and alot of butthurt fanboys are going to be in tears because of it, it started with Condit exposing Diaz and will continue all year long and I can’t wait.

"I don't walk around looking at cameras telling people that I am the best fighter in the world to hear myself talk. I say it for the same reason they put warnings on packages of cigarettes, because fighting Chael Sonnen may be hazardous to one's health."-Chael P. Sonnen

by Raker on Feb 13, 2012 1:45 AM EST reply actions  

Rashad is going to smash Jones and Sonnen is going to finish what he started at UFC 117

Have you been hot boxing with Nick Diaz, cause you clearly aren’t thinking straight.

I promise not to post anymore fat chick or poop gifs.

Im extremely sensitive. The pussy kind of sensitive where I cry like twice a day. I love Cruz Jackson and am honored to be a part of his winning record. I’m his new bitch, step aside Stallion I got that dick now.

Sig bet record 2-6*

Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Feb 13, 2012 8:27 AM EST reply actions  


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