Nate Diaz vs Jim Miller odds for UFC on FOX 3: Who opened as the -250 favorite?
by Geno Mrosko on Feb 10, 2012 3:01 PM EST
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His brother, Nick, may be dominating headlines thanks to a positive drug test and looming suspension but Nate Diaz has a big fight coming up against Jim Miller in the main event of UFC on Fox 3 on May 5 in New Jersey.
And he's the underdog.
According to noted oddsmaker Nick Kalikas on his MMAOddsbreaker show, Diaz is the +190 dog to Miller, who opens as the -250 favorite for their lightweight bout that should serve as a number one contender match.
Diaz has won his last two bouts since making his return to the 155-pound waters, besting both Takanori Gomi and the streaking Donald Cerrone. The latter victory put him in title contention and a win over Miller could very well push him over the top.
It won't be easy, of course, considering the New Jersey native's track record. Though he recently dropped a hard-fought decision to Ben Henderson in a bout he was dealing with sickness for, Miller is still 8-1 in his last nine bouts, including a first round submission over Melvin Guillard just last month.
Considering the platform, it being the third network televised event and these two occupying the headlining slot, the winner could have a title shot awaiting him on the other side.
Stay tuned.
In the meantime, let's hear your initial reactions to these early odds. Too high? Too low? Let's talk turkey in the comments section below.
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Striking goes to Diaz, strength goes to Miller
Submissions about equal but wrestling goes to Miller.
Miller wins by split decision.
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
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SD for Miller? He must be with Greg Jackson, who also trained Forest Gump
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I am a troll
I don't see Miller finishing Nate by strikes
and since Nate’s grappling is outstanding, as far as submissions go, I don’t see Miller submitting him either.
Because he’s the stronger of the two with the better wrestling, I take Miller to win in a close fight.
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
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miller by ud for me,no way he stops nate
he needs to get it to the ground as well and smother nate quickly because if nate gets a rythmn it could be a long night for JIm
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I dunno about that one
I can easily see this being a stand up war, I think the wrestling / jitz will cancel out in this one. For that reason, i see Nate by UD. His stand up has looked great lately, much better than Jim’s IMO, although he’s dangerous, i just think Nate is hitting his stride now.
I don't see Miller willing to engage in a stand up war with Diaz though.
Which is the issue, striking no doubt goes to Diaz, but with Millers wrestling I think he’ll dictate where the fight takes place unless Diaz has really worked on his takedown defense and considering the Cerrone leg swept him about 15 times I don’t really know how good it is….
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That is probably the only way for Miller to win honestly, which is definitely possible...
Having said that, I feel Diaz offers more ways to win, therefore he gets the edge IMO. I sure hope Diaz has worked on his TDD / wrestling, after he got rag dolled by Rory, can’t think of a reason why he wouldn’t after that performance.
Unless that dominant wrestlers name is Chael P. Sonnen
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That goes without saying.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
even doubly so when Miller is a Black belt and Nate is a Brown.
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Way to bring race into it.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
ha
go back to lurking you bastard
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I can do what ever I want.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Nate is a brown belt under Cesar Gracie, Jim Miller is a blackbelt under Jamie Cruz.
I’ll take Nate in a straight BJJ match anytime.
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Just glog guy, this commenting thing doesn't seem to work for you
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Miller for sure.
Diaz is hot right now so i’m kinda surprised that the odds aren’t closer
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
how do you see miller winning?
because nate will be all over him, start to finish..
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
Miller by UD
He will fight him just like Clay Guida did.
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yea i kinda was in an argument where is said he would maynard him..
But Guida him was more the call!
It was the fight I coined the nickname Huggie Bear for Mr. Guida
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it was, i remember.
yet i don’t understand how miller could EVER fight the way guida does..
he would gas out sooo quick fighting a guida style.. and i doubt he could pull it off..
imo- he’s already going to gas out on account of nates style..
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
He doesnt have to be as energetic a Guida..
He will be cool calm and collected, he will keep nate in close range, knees against the legs against the cage in the clinch.. He will grind his way to a UD!
if nate learned anything from that guida fight...
it’s not to let the smaller fighter on the inside.. i doubt highly nick will allow miller to get close enough to clinch, let alone get a takedown,.
nate will use his reach to his advantage this time.. no fucking way millers out striking diaz.
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Maynard outstruck Nate
Miller is WAYYYYY better than gray striking.
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No he isn't
Maynard beat the shit out of Jim striking
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I will have to rewatch
I remember a lot of TD’s.
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It was completely a stand up fight
Miller kept trying to take him down, Gray easily stuffed them and bloodied up Jim
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
I think I am confusing Maynard/Miller with Maynard/Edgar I
what you are saying doesn’t even sound familiar.
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wtf it cut off some of my post
I also said Jim kept trying to Gray down and Gray stuffed them with ease. Gray bloodied Jim’s face. I haven’t seen the first fight with Edgar so I can’t comment on it
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
Jim tried a couple takedowns and spent most of them getting hammered with short shots while he worked on them. Gray wanted nothing to do with Miller on the ground, and the one time he did think it was safe to do so late in the fight Miller latched onto his leg in a matter of seconds and Gray didn’t give another thought to trying that nonsense.
That being said, Jimmy’s striking now compared to Jimmy’s striking then is like night and day. That Jim Miller doesn’t do things like drop Bang Ludwig on the feet.
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you haven't seen how much nates stand up has improved since he fought gray like 2 years ago?
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
I was too busy watching Nate get slammed by Rory Mac...
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diaz hater.. lol
rory is a top WW, not a short ass LW..
if nate does lose, miller’s not dominating anyways..
nate will out point him, and keep him on the outside.. diaz has waaay more tools than jim to get the job done..
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
I actually like Nate
his progression into a complete fighter has been fun to watch.
I think Miller is more well rounded as his wrestling is much better.
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No one except Bendo wanted to fuck with Jim on the ground.
I don’t think Diaz will get subbed by he’ll be fighting for his life the whole time. Jim is a cut above anyone Nate has beaten and I think it stays that way.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
so is Jims
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
bendo did it because he cannot be submited
he cannot be knocked out and he cannot be beaten! lord is on his side and he’ll be champ in no time
pride never die.
Edgar by TKO
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Amen, VhW..
im cashing in on Bendo…. got the lord on his side!
Fuck that he can't stand with Frankie.
Frankie Edgar via 3rd rd TKO
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
buddy trust me on this one...
Henderson puts his size to work in this one. He will dismantle Frankie… he is to big to well versed and to focused.. Losing to pettis the way he did was a good loss… He will beat Frankie……
Maynard is bigger than Bendo.
Other than Bendo not needing blood to function I don’t see what he does better than Frankie.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
More versed?
I don’t think so. Edgar is gona light him up on the feet. Bendo’s tae kwon do shit isn’t gonna hack it with Frankie. If he can do the same to Frank that he did to Miller I’d be surprised.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Bendos stand up is not up to par with Frankies
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
This fight wont be a boxing match like the maynard fight....
Ben will switch levels and take frankie down…
so what your point i never said Maynard wasnt stronger than Ben...
Learn how to read troll boy!
Bendo doesn't have the double leg that Maynard has.
He’ll have to drive Frankie into the cage and bring him down. If your plan is to try to cut off Frankie then I think you’ve got the wrong plan.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think he can do it.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Jim's fight with Bocek was a good ground battle
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
And really showed how tight Miller’s ground game is. Everyone remembers the arm-trapped back take but forgets that the one scramble to set it up was the only time Bocek was able to get anything going, and he is a very high level grappler. Miller threatened him with several subs, and a high level guy like Bocek had almost two minutes to fight against only one arm of Miller’s and not only never got close to the neck, he wasn’t even able to muster any real threatening offense with it. People thinking Miller will be scared of the ground with Nate are being silly, just like people were before Do Bronx.
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This
Da Bronx, God that was a questionable one.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Miller bros don't gas
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Dan Miller feels no pain
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. Miller fought Hendo, who is known for bringing a high pace, with two pretty debilitating issues and then was on the wrong side of some hammering and was still pushing to the last second of the fight and had enough in him to drop Bendo in the third. He won’t have any problem going 25 if need be.
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Miller will take Nate down and control him
Jims stand up isn’t at Nate level but it’s good enough to keep him out of trouble.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
I see a lot of money to be made on Nate
Miller’s thing is his ground game, but Nate’s got enough skills there to cancel it out… which leaves us with Nate’s striking, which took out Cerrone, whose striking is definitely better than Miller’s.
Miller will win. Period.
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why?
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
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He’s the much better fighter.
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im almost sure it will go the distance .. with sub attempts back and forth
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So many reasons why.
- Look at Diaz (read: any Diaz) history with strong wrestlers in the UFC
- Miller has a tough chin
- Diaz (read: any Diaz) wrestling is something close to piss-poor
- Because I made the same statement for Miller’s last fight.
- Because JustBlogGuy said so.
- Miller is waaaaaaaaay better than Clay Guida. Note, Guida manage to secure a W without “beating” Nate Diaz.
- Did I mention wrestling?
Either way the fight should be interesting. Commence the Stockton Mean Mug.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 10, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I have Miller picked as well
I just wanted to know your reasons
I was too busy eating a cheese burger out of Roy’s beard to pick fights correctly. Next time, ill listen to The Pride
I will stand as Starr788’s personal bodyguard for the next two weeks. If anyone has a problem with him, they have a problem with me. Expect me to fully uphold my end of this agreement
Oh. I honestly don’t see how Diaz can win this fight. I’m a huge fan of the brothers but their shortcomings are too easy to exploit.
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by VeeisAnimated on Feb 10, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
wow,,,,
Guess old Nick Kalikas got goosed on that Guillard-Miller line… Either way this fight line is off in my opinion and i expected more of a line that looked like the guillard fight!
more easy money
just like against Cowboy, Diaz is gonna whoop that ass 209-style and then go smoke some weed with Nick
this
I thought Cerrone was going to do something more like what Condit did.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
yea but the more i think about Cerrone... cerrone was trying to prove he was the bigger badass..
problem is that plays right into the hands of a Diaz….
Well he could have looked for a clinch... or maybe a takedown.... Granted Cowboy butters his bread on the feet..
Doesnt mean he cant mixs his martial arts!
Cerrone ain't no bitch to be running from the Stockton kid. He'll go and train and get better and try to whoop NAte another day.
He wouldn’t listen to the fuckin immoral snake’s Greg Jackson’s bullshit gameplanning. Carlos became a scared little bitch. Natural Born Bullshit.
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Shit went south in that Diaz fight fast for Donald..
He could have switched it up he didnt…
Yep he played right into Diaz' hands.
Carlos fought one of the better fights I can remember seeing.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Nick Diaz could have won that fight against condit... instead he chose to taunt and not use his footwork to cut off the cage...
In MMA you have to adjust…. Jim will adjust and more than likely win this fight!
Diaz let himself get beat I agree.
I don’t know if he didn’t see what was happening to him or not.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
i think he is afraid of being a household name... afraid of the expectations that come with fighting,, and being the best at it...
He runs from greatness every way he can…..
Somebody on BE had the Diaz corner transcript written up, and save for a brief moment where he is told it’s 2-2 in the fifth before Nate immediately overrules and calls it 3-1, he spent the entire fight being told he was dominating. I don’t think he has the right skill set to counter Condit’s plan, but his corner never impressed on him the need to try, and since he was seeing things through the same Real Fight-colored glasses, he didn’t see it either.
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Gives you an opportunity to act like you know what you’re talking about over the internet by discrediting a fighters corner. Nate did a good job and told Nick to cut Condit off numerous times.
Bobby Southworth
Being told and doing it are two different things..
I dont blame his corner in the least… All the blame falls on Nick
And told him he was clearly winning the fight with what he was already doing numerous times. That’s a failure on his part.
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Not really, seen as half the people watching also thought he was winning the fight.
Bobby Southworth
Carlos was giving him the Cruz treatment.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
A good cornerman doesn’t tell his fighter he’s cruising and well ahead on the cards late in a close fight.
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he definately had the skillset just not the discipline needed to use his footwork to his advantage..
Cut off the cage instead of moving straight forward and taunting with hands down! Nick lost that fight in more ways than one!
Miller wins by wrestling
Nate will scramble to his feet many times and go for subs but Miller will outpoint him. As usual, a Diaz will lose on points.
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Jumping on Nate at +200 now, before the line moves.
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This could be one hell of a technical grappling match
Badass from Jersey vs hella tough kid from Stockton. I can’t wait!!
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danago's manager?
let me guess your other accounts..
lesnars striking coach
&
mark colemans takedown coach.
you aren’t very creative with your username selection.
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
he's been commenting for a few days now, i don't think it's lsc.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
my money would say it is
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I'd believe it.
LSC has lots of mania time
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
definitely LSC... thats how he does his names always.. i think there is a couple other ones of his too.
herb deans braid of hair..
it’s gotta be him.. he’s the only one with corny ass names like that.
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
yep
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randy couture's divorce lawyer
pride never die.
that was a good one.
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering why there are so many names like that.
It might be some lurkers too, who sign up and just go with that style.
Mine next one will be GrayMaynardsTrampStamp
Perfect
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by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 5:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well done
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
JDS Trophy Wife
was and is the end all be all with those names.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 10, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
^^ best name ever
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by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 11:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Actually no
I’m brand new and I think I actually provide a little more knowledge about mma.
It’s just a funny sn. Everyone and their hate haha. You all know so much. KEEP FIRING ASSHOLES!!!
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by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you were a lurker?
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by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yep I'll admit that
I loved coming to this site for news because it’s the best. Good articles, better community than most other sites. I was a lurker and wanted to be one of the cool kids. Alas, the world is filled with disappointment
Randy Couture is my hero. End of story.Io
by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 5:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is our first meeting, I've been lurking lately but I used to be on here every day.
Randy Couture is that man.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
The Man
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
He proved himself time and time again against the best. I don’t understand why people hate. He’s the only one that was serious about really wanting to fight Fedor in his prime
Randy Couture is my hero. End of story.Io
by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And he was crazy enough to step into the cage with Chuck three times when he was a murderer
Randy may have his flaws in his personal life but as a fighter he was one of the best.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Pleasure to meet you too btw
Thanks for not assuming my identity and calling me out. Ricky’s butt must still hurt from last weekend
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by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On the interwebs you can only take a man by his word.
The pleasure is all mine my friend.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
welcome to the site mate. LSC has a rep that you happen to have gotten caught up in. Don't worry about it.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 10, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Is that a Temple of the Dog quote?
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
yes.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 10, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
The older I get (I'm younger than you I think) the more I hate grunge.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
I was never into much grunge other than Nirvana, I mainly listened to late 70's early 80's punk, but I watched Pearl Jam 20 and haven't been able to get that song out of my head.
It’s been over a month.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 10, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Bummer.
I was just giving you shit anyway, hows the biker gang doing?
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
hard times.
it’s been a mild winter, but far too cold for our group rides. April/May should see things pick back up.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 10, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Fucking A
We didn’t get a winter this year.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I briefly considered moving south for a warmer climate, but it's good to have a few months off and let the anticipation build.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...
by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 10, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
just keep praying those crackpot hippies are right about globull warming
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
by unambig on Feb 11, 2012 12:52 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not haha
I figured I’d get shit for it. And thanks for the welcome
Randy Couture is my hero. End of story.Io
by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Change your handle
really, much easier, and the recognition you hoped to gain immediately by using it isn’t the type that gets you in with the awesome member here at the regular table.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 10, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Meh
Don’t care that much
Randy Couture is my hero. End of story.Io
by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 11:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
correction hella tough kid from stockton s little brother .
Hi everyone! My name is nightmare and here are 3 things you should know about me!
1. I’m Goldmouth’s bitch and I should learn to stay in my place.
2. I know jack shit about mma.
3. I LOVE THE COCK!
Hope you guys feel like you know me a little better now. See Ya
2 week sig beat goldmouth/evans nightmare/davis
who's from stockton, him?
who’s his brother?
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
haha
just realized you were talking to him and nt me. lol
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
You don't think Nate is tough?
How can you be Nick’s lil bro and not be tough? Nate is a badass too
Randy Couture is my hero. End of story.Io
by danago's manager on Feb 10, 2012 5:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And he can form a complete sentence.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Feb 10, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
+190 for diaz??..........Easy money..
thats a hot~dog i can’t pass up.
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
No, this is a hotdog you can't pass up
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 10, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
now im hungry.
" If Nick had been knocked out by Carlos, I would feel better right now than what I do. I don't like that camp.... I am proud to not corner my guys like that and I never will, we have a code and I'm proud of the way we fight. "
-Cesar Gracie
You chumps working at McDonalds, all of you, take out a loan and put it all on Diaz. This is your chance to make some bank.
Bobby Southworth
jokes on you i work at walmart !
Hi everyone! My name is nightmare and here are 3 things you should know about me!
1. I’m Goldmouth’s bitch and I should learn to stay in my place.
2. I know jack shit about mma.
3. I LOVE THE COCK!
Hope you guys feel like you know me a little better now. See Ya
2 week sig beat goldmouth/evans nightmare/davis
There McDonalds inside most Walmarts
you may need to clarify further.
You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"
by *Californication* on Feb 10, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Huge fan of both guys
Equal BJJ. Millers wrestling gets him on top and he punches Diaz in the dome for 5 rounds
Pro Sig record:14-6
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Miller dominates, Even in Joe Stevenson's weak state right now
He could still hump Nate Diaz in a rematch. Miller dominates with phenomenal wrestling and BJJ
Lance Storm Version 2.0
this line is going to get a lot closer. get in now.
I'm straight. That means I like women.
Trainyard Sleepers: Our Foot Your Ass
I'm not afraid of you, internet.
Just try to learn from Rafa. He is the one from whom you should seek guidance.
I'd start drinking my own urine if I could piss excellence
by Hardy's in your face on Feb 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST reply actions
You think Nate wins?
You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd
did no one watch the diaz vs condit fight?
liked i called it weeks before the diaz vs condit fight, miller has to utilize the leg kicks with the same stick and move strategy, just like i called it with the diaz vs condit fight in condits case.if miller stays in the pocket and retreats the same way cerrone did its gonna be a short night or even a long ass night depending on diaz getting the ko.now….. what does diaz have to do, if millers going to utilize the stick and move strategy condit used, then diaz has to take it to the ground and do what gracie students do best jits.if im ceasar im training nate on his takedowns and not so much wrestling based takedowns but more judo based techniques, naturally because i think millers strenght will play a big part in negating any wrestling diaz has to offer.if millers willing to trade in the stand up i dont see him winning simple as that.
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