UFC 143's Nick Diaz tests positive for marijuana, what's next?
by Jesse Holland on Feb 10, 2012 11:52 AM EST
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Former Strikeforce Welterweight Champion Nick Diaz, who quickly established himself as Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) 170-pound number one contender upon his Octagon return in 2011, tested positive for marijuana following his UFC 143 loss to Carlos Condit back on Feb. 4 in Las Vegas.
For Diaz, the infraction marked the second time he's been popped for the green stuff in Nevada, having flunked his exam after strangling Takanori Gomi at PRIDE 33 nearly five years ago.
While Diaz has the right to appeal, he's expected to face a steep monetary fine, as well as a lengthy suspension that could last as long as one year.
Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) Executive Director Keith Kizer explains the next steps for Diaz (via SiriusXM Fight Club) after the jump.
"Mr. Diaz will receive the complaint. The complaints have been mailed to him. He'll receive the complaint by mail and he'll have 20 days upon receipt to file an answer. With the complaint, those are just allegations at this time. There's been no finding against him. He'll have ample opportunity to respond to the complaint and then we'd put it on for a hearing at a time that works for him as well as the Attorney General's office probably April based on past disciplinary complaints and at that time, there'll be a hearing before the full commission and then they make a decision at that time and if they found the athlete guilty, they'd then impose whatever discipline they felt was appropriate."
UFC President Dana White released a statement in the wake of the commission's findings, expressing his "disappointment" in the Stockton slugger's inability to play by the rules.
Diaz is not expected to be released based on this transgression, as ZUFFA chief Lorenzo Fertitta told Twitter followers he would be accepted back into the promotion after serving his time.
Anyone agree with that decision?
For more on the fallout from UFC 143: "Diaz vs. Condit" and the ensuing drug test fiasco click here, here and here.
MMAmania.com's Brian Hemminger contributed to this report.
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give me a fuckin break, Marijuana is not a drug.
He has a prescription anyway… I’m sure he’d rather be paid in bricks of pot. Let the man fight.
do you live in california? if you did, you would understand what a joke "having a prescription" is
all my friends in high school went down to venice and gave a visit to dr.kush (not sure where he got his doctorate) but low and behold, 100 dollars later they had a prescription for medical marijuana
Fuck It Dude, Life's A Risk
by theoregonduck on Feb 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
agreed, you're a dirk
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by theoregonduck on Feb 10, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
You're the biggest Dirk in the universe.
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by Luke Thomas on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
the black playing a guitar while strolling down the venice boardwalk on rollerblades
bet that guy smokes weed everyday.
dude, everyone at venice probably smokes weed everyday haha
there is not an ounce of sanity on that boardwalk.
Fuck It Dude, Life's A Risk
by theoregonduck on Feb 10, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Is sanity a new kind of weed?
Something that isnt around in Venice?
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by enzo-enormous on Feb 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
yea dude, its this blue dream/ skywalker og hybrid
only available in holland at this point
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by theoregonduck on Feb 10, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Woah.. my mind is officially blown..
enzo-enormous
by enzo-enormous on Feb 10, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Its always a joke
Just because your friends abuse the system doesnt mean everyone who gets one is not afflicted by serious ailments. Some people really need it
by TheSloth on Feb 10, 2012 1:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
people with ailments need something to ease their pain
they dont NEED weed…its just an excellent option for them
It's not a prescription but a recommendation.
so what if he smokes… no big deal
"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"
then why test for it if it is not big deal?
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by hairybumcrack on Feb 10, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Not a drug?
I like smoke as much as the next guy, but people acting like it does NOTHING are fucking RETARDED. If it does nothing, why even fucking smoke it?
It is a banned substance in MMA. Not difficult to understand. You can’t take painkillers, you can’t be buzzed on alcohol. You can’t toke up.
You fools acting like it does absolutely nothing need to start riding the short bus.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
But you can drink the week of the fight, you could drink the day before, which has far worse biological implications than marijuana. You can’t smoke weed two weeks out because it stays in your system longer, and no one is saying Nick Diaz smoked weed right before he walked out to the octagon, which has been Kizer’s stated purpose for testing for weed in that he doesn’t want them to fight while theyre actually impaired. Beyond that it serves no effect. While I understand that rules are rules, its a dumb fucking rule and the NSAC is draconian when it comes to their stances on a multitude of things, like admitting when they’re wrong.
by nomomrnicekyle on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
No way to test for pot that way. For me personally, I would want to make sure eveyrone is on a level playing field. And since no one can agree what weed does to every individual, I choose to look at it the same way as someone taking a pain killer. Not ok in my book.
Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.
I burnt my thumb on a pizza pan while stoned once
And I can most definitely say weed did not act as a painkiller in that case.
by makaveli158 on Feb 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
Cooking while high is fucking retarded
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
But so necessary
Its a viscous cycle
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Feb 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I try and limit use to the microwave
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
yes u can test for pot that way approximately...
theres an active component that can be tested
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Chris Sharma, a world rock climbing champion, lost his World Cup gold medal title in 2001 for marijuana
Everyone thought that was silly. There’s no way marijuana helps somebody climb.
It didn’t matter. Sharma has continued to be the world’s most dominant rock climbing champion since.
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
Well at least its some type of precedent for somewhat of a related situation
Of course he smoked, still does, always did.
Its a sucky area of enforcement by the commission. I of course agree, its a rule and of course everybody knows it is but I also think it shouldn’t be a drug that warrants suspension etc. I know there’s a problem with testing for it in the blood and it may be hard or impossible (no idea) to tell whether it is in the blood from recent (that day sort of thing) or last week or even previous to that, where it could not possibly have any impact on motor skills, pain tolerance, or impairment.
And, I don’t know if anyone in any position of authority cares about the changing the rules regardless.
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You fools acting like it does absolutely nothing need to start riding the short bus.
He meant as it does nothing harmful to someone. You tool.
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Sounds like you need to smoke some more
then fist yourself.
Ding Ding Ding - we have a winner
They cant test when they smoked pot, but they can tell that its still in your system. No painkillers, or state altering drugs allowed – and pot is on the list. EVERYONE knows its in your system longer than alcohol – its his job, he’s a “professional” – either dont smoke, or smoke it with loads of time to get rid of it in your system.
by Jerrold Simbulan on Feb 10, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Its not about it being a drug.
Its about being a professional and following the rules and guidelines of your profession!!!! I think pot should be legalized but its not so fing deal with it.
Exactly! Why the heck folks keep making this conversation about pot is beyond me.
Marijuana is totally incidental to the situation at hand.
by TheFriendlySponge on Feb 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
You're an idiot, it is too a drug. Just like aspirin and caffeine.
Also, we all know what is going to happen. He will get a lucky break and get given a great matchup he can win back to the title, or he will lose that or just get cut and will beat some bums in a second tier organization and everyone will jump back on hisack or if he loses they will make excuses. What’s next? The same old bullshit as always concerning Diaz because he along with his fans are to fucking thick or dumb to learn.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 10, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
really?
the first thing you start out with is an insult? why would anyone bother reading past that point?
You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.
by I.AM.miSTAKen on Feb 10, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care if they do or don't.
To day Weed isn’t a drug is fucking dumb!
\m/
by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 10, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
To morrow you should go and finish your grade school diploma
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by hairybumcrack on Feb 10, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
This is what happens when you led the drug lords take over the government.
The drug & pharmaceutical industrial complex, and all these nut jobs who make up things about pot. Guess what? It is none of anybody’s business what Diaz put in his body as it did not enhance his performance. That’s all folks. Stop delivering the religious right reasoning for hating pot. There is nothing wrong with becoming one with pot.
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by SheepleBuster on Feb 10, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand what is going on.
With the complaint, those are just allegations at this time. There’s been no finding against him
Can someone explain this?
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until they have a hearing it's just allegations i believe
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by theoregonduck on Feb 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
correct
innocent until proven guilty.
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I figured as much but it’s not like they didn’t have the positive sample.
Commissioner just sounds unsure.
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but yeah i get that there's a process to follow
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by I.AM.miSTAKen on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think it matters if you have a prescription.
Not sure though. I think if it’s on the banned list it doesn’t matter.
by Ponch-Hoe on Feb 10, 2012 11:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
corrrect
Even with a prescription it is still illegal Federally and on every banned substance list.
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no one has a prescription for cannabis
they have a recommendation from their doctor not a prescription. there is a difference.
but even if Diaz does have a recommendation it would most likely only be recognized in California. the cannabis recommendations are not normally usable in other states because every state has different restrictions on the diseases/injuries that are eligible for medical cannabis. like in Cali Nick can get a rec for having anxiety, or panic attacks, or insomnia, or headaches. but in Nevada you would usually need to have a debilitating condition like AIDS, cancer, glaucoma, etc.
this website notes that Nevada does not accept the recommendations/ID cards from other states.
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by I.AM.miSTAKen on Feb 10, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
You correct hoe poncher being that it is Nevada and the prescription from Dr Kush was from California
i bet cannabis to donuts the commssion doesn’t give a rats ass .
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by Luke Thomas on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Its funnier that way.
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by Luke Thomas on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
looks like diaz/gsp wasn't meant to be
Not any time soon,anyway. Sumbitch
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by salamagogo on Feb 10, 2012 11:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
if Diaz is retired then what kind of action can they really take against him?
suspend or revoke his license?
-he’s retired anyway so what does it matter
fine him monetarily?
-he’s retired anyway so why would he pay the fine? the only reason to pay the fine would be to get the license reinstated so if he’s retired what’s the point?
he should just skip the hearing and tell NSAC and Kizer to go fuck themselves
You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.
in case he un-retires he would have to serve his suspension
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by theoregonduck on Feb 10, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hes not.. he was just being a whiny bitch
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by enzo-enormous on Feb 10, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed Ceasar had to call the Waaahmbulance for Nicky.
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by Luke Thomas on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I can think of a few easy ways off the top of my head
1. he doesn’t have to retire from fighting, just retire from fighting in the US.
2. he’s in Cali, so getting into medical cannabis business is an easy option
3. he can open a gym or two. or he can just continue to train people at Gracie’s gym.
You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.
by I.AM.miSTAKen on Feb 10, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Today students we are going to learn to roll a joint,
by Couch Counter Puncher on Feb 10, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
that is white belt stuff.
black belts teach oowops and godfathers.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
ahhh Danielson always look high
by Couch Counter Puncher on Feb 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
fucking diaz .. your still my favorite fighter but grow up .. get paid then retire then blow all the weed you fn want .. but fight while you can fight .. get paid .. then do it .. or heres a fn idea how about you smoke when your not training for a fight..
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Nothing will happen to him that will effect his carrer longterm.
He will get his fine and serve his suspension. Dana will have a rant that none of this is acceptable and then turn around and book him again for another headline event. This will carry on until Nick no longer becomes a PPV draw. Only then will Dana cut him.
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by Fat Daddy Doobs on Feb 10, 2012 12:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
F the man
But seriously, I think Diaz had planned his retirement before the fight, so he just said fuck it and toked up like a choo-choo train.
In a year or so, when he burns through a bunch of his cash, he’ll suddenly be coming out of retirment.
Another Diaz thread!?
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The article asks whats next
Simple.Diaz will continue to smoke Marijuana and most likely continue to lose too top WW fighters.
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by letter19 on Feb 10, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
WTF!!!??!
I have been saying that for 4 fucking years!!
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You guys don't like Nick...but he gives us entertaining fights all the time, which can only be said about a few.
by Starr788 on Feb 10, 2012 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like Nick the fighter...
he is extremely entertaining in the cage when he actually fights.
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+1
I was actually starting to sway in my hatred for Nick’s stupid post fight antics and silly mean mugging and began to be more open minded about Diaz. I bought into the whole he doesn’t like the lime light and media which is why he rambles making no sense in the promotional aspects. I even listened when they talked about how intelligent of a fighter he was by winning the psychological game with opponents. But the dude is a stoner. And not just an every now and again stoner, he’s a day in and day out stoner. And for everyone that thinks it has no affect think about all the extremely talented people you know that blaze it up habitually. They never come close to their full potential. I ain’t hating just saying….
by Couch Counter Puncher on Feb 10, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I agree with every word. That’s exactly how I would’ve written it myself if so I wasn’t so fucking stoned.
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by Fat Daddy Doobs on Feb 10, 2012 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so you know Diaz personally and are around him all the time?
otherwise how the hell would you have any idea how often nick smokes?
You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.
by I.AM.miSTAKen on Feb 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
well chump
you toke, you choke. Who doing that spinning shit now, chump? Spider got caught in his own web, chump. Man up chump and take your pill!
Agreed
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by Rampagelangford on Feb 10, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
wait, can we please have like 3 maybe 4 more articles on the subject
i dont think i’ve heard enough about this
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by theoregonduck on Feb 10, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing there's two Diaz bros.
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by 49erEmpire on Feb 10, 2012 12:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yea there is one thing i don’t get about Nick, I think he is a great fighter and most people don’t like his attitude and what not. I for one M not phased by his attitude because I grew ul with people that actike he does. But the thing i don’t get is how come his brother doesn’t a t out like that way. I hate how people say fuck the diaz brothers when its really just one brother acting out. Also I don’t really see a whole lot wrong with Nick because he is a fighter and that’s what he does. It’s not like he is raping girls or boys from his gym, he isn’t involved in gangs. They pay him to fight and that’s what he does. He just doesn’t abide by rules 100% of the time oh well people do worse than that
by zesotheclown on Feb 10, 2012 12:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
does Nick really need weed?
like someone up top said, getting a card for medicinal MJ in Cali is a joke, with anyone able to get one if they really wanted one.
all we are going to hear over next while is “oh he has a prescription” and “Nick suffers from anxiety” which is the common reason people would say they need this shit anyways.
Do you really need weed? Does anyone really need weed? You’re in support of weed but have a problem with Diaz lighting up, I don’t understand that.
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by danago on Feb 10, 2012 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So would he be considered and addict then?
Because clearly he can’t stop himself.
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not really "clearly"
we dont know any circumstances surrounding this…as to when he smoked, how long before the fight, etc.
you cant become physically addicted to weed. More of a psychological thing if anything
Habitual then
Like a smoker that doesnt need to smoke anymore but misses the habit of smoking.
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So what’s your point? Diaz isn’t going to lose his job, are you support of weed or not? If you are, then why are you complaining?
This affects NO ONE other than Diaz, and it does him more good than bad, so what’s with all the beef?
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by danago on Feb 10, 2012 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i dont have a problem with him lighting up either
if he wants to fuck himself out a job, thats his business and doesnt affect me in any way, shape or form
Kills people? Too much reefer madness? You know there has never been a case of someone eating someone whole while high on weed
by zesotheclown on Feb 10, 2012 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That’s funny. I’ve never have gotten hungry from that was an avid smoker.
by zesotheclown on Feb 10, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
effects everyone different i guess..but a big thing for medical pot is it increases appetite
cancer patients and people with other diseases have a good appetite on it, while other drugs they dont
that would be
a cannibalism problem, not a cannabis problem
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meanwhile, somewhere in the exiled no-man's land between ufc and bamma...
nate “The Great TRT User” marquardt is quietly weeping at lorenzo’s twitter comment
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Ok just incase you haven't been alive this past week.....
Diaz lost a close decision to Carlos Condit and came up positive for Marijuana in his drug test…..now that this has been stated and discussed, they only logical thing to do now is———-POST 20 MORE THREADS ON THE SAME FUCKING SUBJECT
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Serious question here:
Nobody answered me when I asked this before, but does the NASC run the world or something? Can’t they get Diaz to fight on a card outside of Vegas? Sweden? Japan? Brazil? Canada?
Or does the NASC rule the UFC because it’s based out of Las Vegas and authorizes licenses?
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
Im sure weed is on every athletic commisions no-no list
but don’t quote me.
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Josh Barnett did some shit like that. I think NASC suspended him and he said "fuck off, i'll just go fight in Japan"
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
i think that the UFC could face some problems if they let a guy fight that the NASC had suspended though.
They may tell the UFC they wont sanction any fights in NV if they don’t play ball. Pride didn’t have to worry about that.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
rulings of other states commissions. And most of the US commissions tend to frown on suspended fighters fighting outside the US while suspended.
So even if he did go fight in Japan they would probably lengthen his suspension.
my understanding is
they could get the person suspended to fight somewhere else, but it would piss off the NASC, and the UFC doesnt want to do that
I don't think Chael is licensed in Nev anymore.
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I think so
but I thought the reason he hasn’t is that there was a chance they don’t issue it to him.
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At least with Diaz we don't have to listen to
‘I took a random supplement’. No random weed burger excuse.
What does marijuana metabolites mean?
Metabolic is the term for breaking down and synthesizing food and minerals and whatnot. So does this mean this is old weed or new weed?
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The active ingredient in marijuana — Tetrahydrocannabinol or delta-9-THC or simply THC — enters the body’s bloodstream rapidly after smoking marijuana. If marijuana is ingested, rather than smoked, it takes longer to be absorbed into the blood, usually from 20 minutes to an hour and a half.
But THC is detectable in the blood for a short time, usually a few hours, because it is rapidly metabolized into molecules known as metabolites. At least 80 different metabolites are formed from THC. These metabolites are stored in body fat and are gradually eliminated from the body through feces and urine.
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Some THC metabolites have an elimination half-life of 20 hours. However, some are stored in body fat and have a elimination half-life of 10 to 13 days. Most researchers agree that urine tests for marijuana can detect the presence of the drug in the body for up to 13 days.
So Nick smoked pot anywhere within 20 hours to 13 days before the fight with Condit.
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yeah exactly
and how it is broken down in the body depends on alot of things…guy on here this morning smoked the day before his test and he still passed
he used a flush, which acts like a masking agent though.
It cleans you out temporarily, but you could get tested the next day and show positive for it.
i also know for sure it usually takes closer to 30 days to get out of your system if you use it regularly and then stop cold turkey.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
Ive done that before as well
Had a surprise piss test and somehow passed it. Was scared shitless. My parents woke me and my brother up and took us to the court systems testing center. We thought we failed for sure so we told our parents that we had been smoking for quite a while and they were pretty pissed…
Then the tests came back and we passed haha
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by enzo-enormous on Feb 10, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the thing for me
Marijuana’s THC leaves the blood stream and is metabolized within a few hours, just like alchohol. So, why would it be treated like a performance enhancing drug? If he didn’t smoke it on fight day it’s irrelevant. Just as if someone had a beer before fight day the alcohol wouldn’t show.
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Its still in your blood.
Its in your cells. The reason, as I see it anyways, is that they cant tell if it was directly before or not.. so they deny it all together
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by enzo-enormous on Feb 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
But here's the thing
The police in Vancouver started doing roadside tests for cannabis and we were assured they can detect whether the intoxication is from recent inhalation or metabolized THC. So, what’s going on here?
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sounds like they are testing for THC
not the metabolites
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or that
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maybe then can tell, i dunno
but i always thought they couldnt tell at all, except for your eyes, and even then they cant prove you are high. Sounds like a scare tactic to me
Reminds me my buddy smoking hash during recess in Grade 7
“Are my eyes red?”
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Well if so that would mean he smoked on fight day
Since the THC would be in the blood stream still. That’s fucked though. How could he smoke on fight day? Where and when?
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in the shitter
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I dont know, i dont think it should be banned.
However, it is. That means you lose if you test positive. He knew, still took the risk, and now he’s fucked. He cant really whine about this.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
It's not about whining
Right now it’s about whether there’s a proper administration of drug-testing going on. Did Diaz test positive for residual metabolized THC that was irrelevant to the fight? Or did he test positive for the blunt he smoked an hour before the fight? It makes a huge difference.
If a person gets popped for smoking pot five days before an event and a person doesn’t get popped for drinking whiskey a day before an event, then the system is inherently flawed.
We’re testing for intoxication here, right? It’s clearly not a performance enhancing issue. If you’re stretching you could call it a pain killer.
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It actually makes no difference though.
he knew he couldn’t have it in his system but he did. this isn’t a matter of him not knowing they meant “you cant smoke at all” or “on fight day” etc…he knew he wasn’t supposed to test positive, he knew he’d be tested, he took his chances and got burned. end of story.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
You're talking about the letter of the law
I’m not. I’m talking about the spirit of the law.
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like I said earlier, i dont think it should be on the banned list.
All i’m saying is Nick can’t complain about this because he knew what was up. Homie made his own bed.
Now if you are talking about changes moving forward, then I agree. But you can’t argue you it retroactively.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
If a person gets popped for smoking pot five days before an event and a person doesn’t get popped for drinking whiskey a day before an event, then the system is inherently flawed.
One is illegal, one is not. Why is this so hard to believe?
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but it is flawed
Nick could have snorted blow a couple days before and passed. System is flawed
thats why in Alberta the harder drugs are more common, cause you can still pass your test and do them
If it is out of his system then it means nothing.
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Are you a doctor?
The banned substance list was created by doctors to ensure an even playing field. Someone, somewhere decided that pot should be a banned substance.
Until that changes, and pot is legalized, all of your pro-pot studies mean nothing.
My personal feelings don’t matter (if legalized tomorrow, I would have a hydro lab open within 2 weeks) and your personal feelings don’t matter.
Nick broke a rule that he knew and understood. He jsut didn’t care. About MMA, his fans, or himself. That should piss you off more than the stupid rule.
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You need more behind your argument than this letter of the law crap, Ulf
Remember, alcohol used to be banned at one point in history.
Someone, somewhere decided that pot should be a banned substance.
Right. And we don’t quite understand why that is.
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why? It is the law.
If the majority deem that the law is unjust it gets overturned. That is how a political process works and why alcohol is now illegal.
If enough people were to get inolved in the political process to try and get pot legalized, it would probably happen. Hell, all you have to do is show the political largesse from the “war on Drugs” and the number of people incarerated for minor pot offenses. The US could save billions a year by eliminating this largesse and make additional billions by legalizing and taxing.
That si not the point oif the argument. The point is that Nick knew the rules and skirted them, just like he has done in the past. Once again, his diehard fans take to the streets and say how unfair the qworld is and how Nick deserves better because it is silly that pot is banned and teh test is bullshit because pot is not a performance enhancer.
Give me a break.
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why alcohol is legal
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Da law is da law is da law
Listen to yourself. If the law said Jews are subhumans, do you listen to the law?
All I care about is whether the fight was fair. And in this context we don’t know whether the positive test was based on metabolized THC that had no impact on the fight, or whether it was still in the blood stream and potentially made Diaz more relaxed, calm and able to take punishment more easily.
If he wasn’t intoxicated during the fight then the marijuana had no bearing on his performance and is irrelevant, regardless of its status of legality.
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Nice extreme strawman. Almost as bad as the douche who compared Nick smoking weed to Rosa Parks refusing to move on the bus.
If you feel this strongly about it, you need to move to LV and start campaigning to get the law changed. Or, you could do nothing, smoke a joint, and wait a few years until Nick gets popped for smoking pot again.
Have a great weekend, brother. Don’t get pinched for smoking pot.
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I don't smoke pot
But I have in the past. I know it’s harmless and so do many Canadians, which is why a majority percentage of our country wants it legalized.
Unfortunately the fanatics in the United States, who largely control Canada’s domestic drug laws, are insane.
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point me to a real poll that shows this please?
seriously.
I would love to see an extrapolated poll that actually covers the majority of Canadians that say they want pot legalized.
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Too easy, buddy
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it wasn't a challenge.
that is why I put seriously.
I am not anti-pot. You need to realize this.
I am for following the rules of sporting events.
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Rules have to make sense
Anabolic steroids are illegal because they’re performance enhancing.
Testing positive for metabolized THC is illegal because….
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It is an intoxicant and illegal.
Do you disagree with either of those facts? Not morally, factually.
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Those are facts based on widely varying geographical jurisprudence
In Las Vegas and the United States, marijuana is illegal except with a medical prescription.
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The legality of a substance should have nothing to do with the test
It’s a concern of performance-enhancing. The NASC isn’t in business to ensure people aren’t smoking marijuana recreationally any more than they are to ensure our sodium levels and transfats are up to snuff.
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There really is no getting through to you is there?
It is a banned substance. It is also an illeagal substance. Until that changes, Nick knew the rules. Based upon past experience, it was not difficult to NOT smoke pot to ensure that i got paid. Nick didn’t care about that. He wante both and is paying for it.
Why aren’t you questioning why Nick can’t adhere to any rules? Why aren’t you asking why Nick is not shouldering any of the blame?
Why do you think the world is against Nick Diaz?
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It's a banned substance, but only for reasons of intoxication
The legality of it is irrelevant since it’s not performance-enhancing.
My question is whether the pot was a relevant aspect of the fight. That’s all I care about.
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I don't care why it is banned. It is.
And when Nick pissed a banned substance, it became relevant.
Do you really believe it is that hard to stop smoking pot?
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You don't care why it is but we do
I need more than some arbitrary declaration of illegality for a thing to be illegal. Anal sex among consenting adults used to be illegal, too.
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It still is, unless you get
Like Nick did.
You should care more that Nick can’t follow the rules and because he can’t, we don’t get to see a reatch.
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Rules need to make sense
Otherwise what sense are rules?
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the majority make the rules.
who cares if the minority don’t understand them. That is the way of the world.
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Majorities most certainly don't make the rules
Aren’t you one of the people who validates the theory of the 99 percenters?
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the majority agree with the rules and most are stupid. Better? lol.
I am a 99%’r
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Majorities are fickle
But even if a majority agree to change the drug laws, it takes much more to overturn them since politicians who are able to change legislation are generally conservative-minded.
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unless he smoked an hour before, then yes, its irrelevant
he could have gotten high as 100 hippies the night before, and he would wake up perfectly normal on fight day
yeah, but normally you are going to get the munchies before you come down and get sleepy.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
not always
the munchies are real, but not everyone smokes pot and automatically starts munching…sadly…i am one who smokes and eats ha.
but right before bed will relax you and help you sleep for sure
My favourite thing to do is munch
This is disgusting but I would buy teriyaki beef jerky and my favourite potato chips, Lays sweet chilli, and mix them in a big bowl and go to town.
Only the fact that I have a sick metabolism kept me from getting fat.
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I don't need any explanation on how weed works my man,
but i can’t go to sleep after getting lifted, i have to wait for it to wear off first. and unless I eat before i puff, I always get the munchies. well, unless i’m drinking beer and am just hitting a bat.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
i cant either
if i smoke and go straight to bed, then my head is racing and i dont fall into that REM sleep at all…but i do know people who smoke an go right to sleep
I like it when I haven't smoked for about a year or so and I decide to smoke again
There’s that first time it hits you and you start entering the zone and you’re not quite used to it so you kind of grip the armrest and brace for impact.
Then it mellows and you go watch land of the lost with Will Ferrell.
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wasn't trying to be a jerk
just sayin’ i dont need the breakdown like the police man on the other thread.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
What policeman?
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what was his name Newfie?
Antone maybe? let me go see. Dude was talking about weed ruining peoples families and lives and leading to crack ,heroin etc
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
What a fucking jagoff
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Anyone who thinks pot is a gateway drug is a moron
It’s like saying masturbation is a gateway to autoerotic asphyxiation
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it's like saying that letting kids spin in circles leads to shooting up.
b/c they experience the euphoria of getting dizzy and lightheaded and have to step it up.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
yep, it was antone04
dude rips on how bad weed is, and then when he was asked if he knew why it was outlawed he had no freaking clue. Cops trip me out sometimes man.
Then dude had the never to tell somebody else that they didn’t understand b/c he gets to see the reality of it. Bonehead.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
I just read through his comments
And yes, I’d be ok with my kids smoking weed.
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And yes, I’d be ok with my kids smoking weed.
Really?
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i lived next door to a family in british columbia
they bought their kids pot, so they wouldnt get into crytsal meth which was runnin rampid.
different circumstances for everyone
Yeah
I plan to smoke one with my son when he’s older and explain that while he doesn’t need weed, it’s ok to smoke it responsibly.
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Define older
12 , 17, 20?
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16-17, when his friends will be offering him a joint
If I let him discover drugs through his peers it’s more dangerous than introducing them openly and without the stigma of its illicitness.
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by 16-17 it may already be too late
and the horse is already out of the corral as they say.
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i wont go that far but i'll put it this way...
I don’t necessarily want my kid to get into motocross b/c I saw some of my friends get hurt pretty bad. That doesn’t mean I think it should be illegal. Also, talking about what kids do and grown adults do are 2 completely different things. I don’t want my 5 year old having sex, but if he’s not getting some when he’s 20 i’ll be wondering what I did wrong.
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
I already took my kids down Hastings to show them the drug addicts
So they know what awaits them if they abuse drugs
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when their brains have developed
and they have proven they are intelligent, and proven to be driven to succeed in life, by getting education etc, then yeah…but i wouldnt really like em doin it until college at least
If they are egoing to do it
it will be long before then
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Even 16-17 might be a bit old to really talk about drugs with my kids
I was smoking hash when I was 12.
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Going to be the devils advocate here
If you say there’s nothing wrong with it and not addicting, etc. who cares when they start?
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Because children aren't mature enough nor responsible enough to handle intoxicating agents
Which is why I agree with age of majority laws. Although 21 in the United States is ridiculous. It should be 18.
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oh hell yeah, you can serve but can't be served.
what kind of bullshit is that??
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
You're old enough to die in Afghanistan
But not old enough to pour one for your dead friend. That’s criminal right there.
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So why not tell them not to do it at all then
Or is that not a real option?
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Because I think everybody should at least TRY marijuana
That way when they spout off their opinions it’s not based on something they don’t understand.
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I feel I can have an educated opinion on a topic
without having first hand knowledge of it. I don’t have to suck a dick to know that I don’t like being gay.
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just an example kids, don't freak
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That's different
Sexual orientation is an inborn programming. Liking weed is an acquired taste.
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You say you used to do it,
what made you stop?
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I switched careers from construction to journalism
I was concerned marijuana might dull my mental faculties. I haven’t noticed a difference, but I haven’t decided to smoke again since.
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Didnt want to end up like Rogan?
Talking about aliens etc? I kid, I kid.
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It was a precaution to be honest
Having been sober for two years, I don’t notice any real change. But I’d have to ask someone who knew me.
Even tho I initially acted like a small child, I have been forced to come to my senses. enzo-enormous is better at calling fights than I am, by far. I am a little immature but am working on it. Also, I love dudes and cant wait to get a reach around from the 209
If anyone looks back at Ross Rebagliati our Canadian Olympic snowboarder gold medal winner a few year ago...
http://ndsn.org/FEB98/mj1.html
They allowed him to keep his gold medal, acknowledging that the amount of THC found in his blood would not have provided any athletic advantage to him while competing.
I posted this above but thought someone might want to look into since it seems like a kinda relevant comparison in my opinion.
..."I really hate the expert opinion. If you were a fucking expert, you'd be doing it."
- Daniel Craig
relax ladies
Nick Diaz has such a strong fan base becauce he doesn’t seem to care about the rules. Who the fuck cares if he smoked a bit of weed. The feeds are never this long when TRT is being talked about. Nick is probably the cleanest athlete in the UFC and he’s made up his OWN mind on what is right and wrong. That’s why his fans love him so much. He does what he wants. He’s not a consuming company man ready to jump through hoops to make some cheddar. Who knows this could be the start of the legalization of cannabinoids to certain levels. If its considered legal in the state he lives in and has a presctiption from a medical doctor i can’t see how the NSAC can allow guys to shoot Testosterone in their asses and not this. Every year the NSAC upgrades it’s chromatographers (machines they use to seperate and detect illegal compunds) i bet they got a new one and Nick just didn’t know how to beat quite yet lololol .
or maybe it's because they just like how he fights and has nothing to do with his anti-authority attitude
"There are no pacts between lions and men."
i didn't menton his fighting style because this feed is more about a behavioural issue than about fighting style but you are certainly right.
I bet he has plenty of fans that love him for his fighting style alone, but his anti-establishment attitude outside of the cage certainly intrigues
of course he can do whatever he wants
doesn’t mean there isn’t consequences
You must defeat me to stand a chance.
#1 pot is illegal
A stupid and useless law that I break on a daily basis, but it is the law…currently anyways. Nick knows this. He’s getting paid a hefty sum to do a job. A job that requires he takes drug tests. He knows this too. This is his SECOND offense. You can’t fix stupid. Dude has serious social issues and rebels against pretty much everything. He needs to get his head straight. I’m really surprised Dana has put up with all of the bullshit that comes along with the Diaz brothers, well, Nick anyways. I doubt he’ll put up with much more of it. There are plenty of good fighers and more and more are climbing the ranks each day. Nick Diaz is about to find himself back in Strikeforce or doing triatholons and marathons for a living if he keeps up the idiocy. I like him as a fighter, but he comes off as a dick in most other areas.
i hope he doesn't retire
I freaking love watching Nick Diaz fight. This guy is such a character love him or hate him people love talking about him
I agree
just watched a few of his fights, he’s one of the most exciting guys to watch fight, like his bro nate. As much of a fan i am of gsp his fighting style isn’t the most exciting to watch and his last fight was brutal, probably his worst. I wanted to see his last fight again with carlos, couldn’t find it, i thought carlos won but I would like to watch it again carefully. I watched his fight with sherk and thought it could have been a draw, had sherk winning the first, nick the second and the third was really close. Would love to see nick tested against top wrestlers just to see how he’d fair, would be interesting, he stuffed almost all of sherks shots.
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