UFCs Quinton Jackson doesn't like King Mo, refuses to 'step down' to Strikeforce
by Kevin Haggerty on Jan 9, 2012 10:30 PM EST
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Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) light heavyweight contender (and former champion) Quinton Jackson has had several epic "beefs" with some well known mixed martial arts (MMA) competitors.
He's locked horns with the likes of Rashad Evans. He's traded barbs with current champion Jon Jones. He's even exchanged unpleasantries with bad guys as "B.A. Baracus" in the 2010 movie remake of "The A-Team."
But, his most recent verbal sparring partner is none other than Strikeforce's own Muhammed Lawal, who recently called out "Rampage" after his win over Lorenz Larkin at Strikeforce: "Rockhold vs. Jardine" in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Jan. 7, 2012.
Jackson heard the comments from "King Mo." And it should come as a surprise to no one that he wasn't amused and hurled a few words of his own for his fellow loudmouthed 205-pounder.
Here's what he had to say during an interview on HDNet's "Inside MMA:"
"I don't like the guy. He's a hater. He's a big time hater, you know what I'm sayin'? He's been calling me out on Twitter and stuff. He's just hatin' big time. He, uh, he told me a while ago that he wanted to fight me when I'm on my way out. When I'm over the hill. Like most fighters, we get old and the time comes to retire. He said that's when he wants to fight me, years ago. Now he's comin' at me like I'm on my way out."
Apparently, Jackson watched Lawal's fight against Larkin. He was not impressed by his performance:
"I wasn't impressed with Mo's fight at all. He beat some guy and knocked some guy out on the ground, but the guy has no wrestling experience at all. I can look at Mo, I'm a fighter -- I could tell he was gettin' tired. If it woulda went to the next round, homeboy probably woulda come back. Cuz Mo looked like he was gettin' tired. I don't think Mo's been in the cage with the best in the world. He thinks I'm a bum now? Cuz I lost a fight with Jon Jones, one of the best light heavyweights in my weight class right now? So, I lost a fight to that guy, so now I'm a bum? Well, he can say that all he wants, but that guy has never fought anybody close to the caliber of the guys I've fought."
"Rampage" went on to address comments Lawal made about Jackson coming over to the Strikeforce promotion to challenge him there, as opposed to vice versa.
According to Jackson, he's insulted by the idea and would never consider it:
"It's funny that he gotta talk about me after his fight and say I should move down to the Strikeforce and fight him. I'm sorry, but from where I'm sittin', that's a step down. You know what I'm sayin'? Why would I wanna step down to the Strikeforce and fight him when I'm fightin' in the biggest organization in the world?"
Hard to argue otherwise ... at least for now. Strikeforce vs. UFC, loser leaves town match, anyone?
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Mo vs Mousasi rematch!
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by freenow82 on Jan 9, 2012 10:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes indeed
I would love to see Mousasi shut him up.
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko
Rampage is right.
Mo along with Gil and Luke need to realize they’re stuck for a while. No UFC fighter is gonna step down to Strikeforce. UFC is Zuffa’s #1. SF is on life support.
Credible P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top fighters making them look like they don't belong and has done it for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody including top guys)
#3: GSP (long time champ but can't stop people that others can who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating compared to #1 and #2... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 9, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Horrible?
I don’t think so. He was ill and the scoring system doesn’t favour him. He destroyed Mo from the ground and lost a UD… kind of unfair.
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko
*ill against OSP
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko
Exactly
Add to that he basically rides on talent alone. From what he said he only has one regular striking coach.
His TD and wrestling overall have hugely improved, that much was evident against OSP. Gegard seems to be lazy but still remains a huge talent and one of the best strikers in 205(9). What he needs is a good camp.
He will be a killer if he gets some training together for the unified rules
Dude is an animal. There are not many people that can stand with him and his ground game is awesome.
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko
What would the difference be?
He’d still get paid the same
by Starr788 on Jan 9, 2012 10:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
this^
honestly why not if u think u will crush him then why not rampage.
MMA = Best sport on earth
by FarNorCal on Jan 9, 2012 10:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He fights at a higher level than MO, why should he do a favor to the guy who's doing the talking and should be working his way up?
P4P TOP 5 1. Nick Diaz 2. Nate Diaz 3. Fedor 4. Overeem 5. Junie Browning … Also Nate AND Nick will both be champions of thier respective brackets. Dont Fuck With Mean Mug he will make you slob all over your most hated fighters knob 209 BITCHES!!!!!!
by Cyclonejoker on Jan 9, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
I also think Rampage gets a cut of the PPV revenue in his contract, giving him even less of a reason to fight in strikeforce against a comparative nobody.
by amendamatrix on Jan 9, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Rampage is one of the UFC’s biggest stars and a main stream draw
for most fighters, I don’t think bouncing between SF and the UFC for a big fight, especially guys who are ranked 5 and below in their weight class, but for Rampage, aka BA Baracus with crossover appeal, he shouldn’t take his brand down a notch.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Tito cross over to SF, Lil Nog, even Forest could generate big numbers and bring exposure to their brand and up and coming fighters as a main event fighter, because in the UFC, these are the kind of guys who aren’t going to make title runs. Up and comers like Story could go over and fight someone like Woodley as a main event for the SF ww title. Have Florian fight Melendez, have Rich Franklin fight Rockhold – these are fights where they could build stars up and draw real interest to SF on Showtime.
I agree.
Those are great examples of fighters that would most likely benefit(or ZUFFA would benefit) from cross-over fights.
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
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by Jay Bittner on Jan 10, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think he would
I mean how many people are going to buy that PPV.. Plus as a huge UFC star it’s just not right to go down to a promotion that has had its guts stripped out of it.
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko
sponsor wise
he wouldn’t
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That was a little dumb on king mo’s behalf. These strikeforce guys are delusional if they think these ufc guys they are calling out would step down to strikeforce. They should he fighting hard to get to the ufc and face these guys they are calling out. But i must say I’d be excited to see mo and rampage fight
by zesotheclown on Jan 9, 2012 10:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Eh, they do it because it's easy to talk.
P4P TOP 5 1. Nick Diaz 2. Nate Diaz 3. Fedor 4. Overeem 5. Junie Browning … Also Nate AND Nick will both be champions of thier respective brackets. Dont Fuck With Mean Mug he will make you slob all over your most hated fighters knob 209 BITCHES!!!!!!
by Cyclonejoker on Jan 9, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, but I’d like to see that fight rampage would shut him up
by zesotheclown on Jan 9, 2012 11:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rampage keeping it real.
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko
Lol exactly
Jason Miller is a retard with straight hair and curly teeth.Hes a couple of dolly mixtures short of a quarter and spends his time swinging of a tyre attached to a rope! I should have listened to the MMA royalty on here,especially Jay,ANS and ViolentMike who kept reminding me that Mikes wrestling was the best at 185 and 205 and that if Greg Jackson,Randy Couture,Blackhouse,ATT or team quest ever needed any tips on game planning Wolfsalir is just a phone call away
by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 9, 2012 11:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
haha yeah bad
"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko
lawal would win
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by daniel worby on Jan 9, 2012 10:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe.
Rampage could get outwrestled, but MO doesn’t have the speed or shot that Rashad does so I’m not so sure he can take him down often enough to win. MO’s cardio sucks and if he gasses he’s screwed.
P4P TOP 5 1. Nick Diaz 2. Nate Diaz 3. Fedor 4. Overeem 5. Junie Browning … Also Nate AND Nick will both be champions of thier respective brackets. Dont Fuck With Mean Mug he will make you slob all over your most hated fighters knob 209 BITCHES!!!!!!
by Cyclonejoker on Jan 9, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Agree.
Interestingly enough, the guys he has had issues with or currently has beefs with he’s lost to. Perhaps anger is not a good emotion for him to ride in on. He needs to calm down, chill out, and pick his shots wisely. And use some offensive wrestling for Christ’s sake. Instead of spending all this time defending against the TD, take the other man down. Make them fear the shoot as much as you fear the shoot.
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First time poster.
True that.
He should keeps his composure like he did in the 3rd Wandy fight. Despite getting brutally embarrassed and KOed by Wandy twice before that he didnt let that get to his head and was all smiles and cool throughout and ended up looking like a killer in that fight.
mo will get tired
And rampage will knock him out
Edilberto Crocota
by OilCheck on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Its not nearly as bad as some people seem to think
Jason Miller is a retard with straight hair and curly teeth.Hes a couple of dolly mixtures short of a quarter and spends his time swinging of a tyre attached to a rope! I should have listened to the MMA royalty on here,especially Jay,ANS and ViolentMike who kept reminding me that Mikes wrestling was the best at 185 and 205 and that if Greg Jackson,Randy Couture,Blackhouse,ATT or team quest ever needed any tips on game planning Wolfsalir is just a phone call away
by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 9, 2012 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea, Im a huge rampage fan and all this talk of his cardio is kind of old
For a guy at the 205 division, his cardio is just fine. There are WAYworse guys
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 10, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Rampage would be extremely hard to take down
Êven for Mo
by Starr788 on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
man i'd love to see this fight still
I can see Page doing decent, but just not winning. I guess is Mo’s cardio actually did disappear and Lawal couldn’t get him down, but still, I see Lawal making it happen.
These two would be such a beak show leading up to fight night.
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by daniel worby on Jan 9, 2012 11:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this is the boost in the arm SF needs.
The answer to getting page to go to SF for a fight is money. Give him a $500k payday. He’s do it.
Long time reader.
First time poster.
UFC covers his normal earnings
and Showtime covers the delta. Make it a $600k purse. Make it a fight for the vacant title. When other fighters see that pay goes up to come to SF they will be joining. Next thing you know you have 2 top tier leagues and the “UFC vs SF” challenge can begin. next thing you know you’re the most popular sporting event on a premium cable channel and you’re in mainstream broadcasting. Co promoting may happen easier than the attempt made by the UFC and M1. Both sides might have much to gain. Win Win
Long time reader.
First time poster.
Take MLB (major league baseball) for example.
You have the american league and the national league. Both have close to equal talent but there are a few differences:
1. American league pitchers do not bat. The get a DH to hit for them.
2. National league pitchers do bat.
The difference? 9% of the batting team for the American league. Now they have four top hitters at slot 9 and 1-4. National league has top hitter in the 1-4 slots. The american league hols an advantage on offense.
Cross promoting in MLB is called inter league play. That started in the mid 90’s. They wanted to try it out for a season and the result was that it greatly increased revenue. At that time baseball needed some help after the strike in the 90s.
MLB has shown that this kind of business plan works, and it works well. All of baseball is more popular and better with 2 pro leagues, not one.
Once a year they have the all star game (american vs national) and the prize to the winner is home field advantage in the world series.
Football: AFC and NFC.
Politics: republican and democrat.
There’s no reason why it can’t work for MMA. I wouldn’t be surprised if the business model surrounding the contract extention on showtime for SF through 2014 had this kind of goal in mind.
Later
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King mo would not win
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Jan 10, 2012 1:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe but ...
There isn’t enough incentive for Jackson to take a step down in order to face Lawal. It doesn’t make sense organization-wise, and Lawal isn’t a big enough of a draw, yet.
"I thought I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury." – Tank after losing a decision to Dan Severn
No shame in Rampage getting old
Father time is undefeated, no matter what the sport, ask the Raiders Jerry Rice, or the Wizards Jordan, or the Cardinals Emmit Smith or the Ali that lost to Trevor Berbick. You might take him into the late rounds like Randy C. but eventually you end up losing with a kick to the face.
Father Time 1,000,000-0
You talking to me?....
father time, will still win ahaha
good point though
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 10, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
the Raiders Jerry Rice
Did you really just do that? Did you really just completely disrespect one of the 49ers (and football as a whole) best players to ever play the game by defining him by the silver and black he wore for his last few years?
I’m speechless. Flabbergasted. Undeniably emersed in a pool of sorrow. I have to go now.
Don’t stop me. I must leave.
Long time reader.
First time poster.
So flustered that I couldn't even remember the reply button.
Unbelievable. I’m really going now. I’m leaving now.
I can’t take it. Next thing you know I will start recing comments and slow dancing with other men like they do at that other site.
In fact, YOU, MR. XXBOMBGUYXX, have driven me to the land of the rainbow unicorn.
Long time reader.
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the cardinals emmit smith
the chiefs joe montana
lol
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 10, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
The point was....
that he wasnt the same player with the Raiders… so no problem with the Wizards Jordan? or Cardinals Emmit?
You talking to me?....
Too late to turn it around XX.
Like I told one of my ex-wives, “some things can’t be unsaid, and more importantly, said things can’t be unheard.” (she’s no longer with us. nor is my ex best friend)
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First time poster.
Sorry...
The point was….
that he wasnt the same player with the Raiders… so no problem with the Wizards Jordan? or Cardinals Emmit?
You talking to me?....
I know not of any man who casteth spells wearing a robe.
Nor hath I exhumed knowledge of one bird with an asexual name.
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Oreo really fucked up with it's new freshness sealed packaging.
I ran across a package of oreos earlier that I bought 4 or 5 months ago. Just for shits and giggles I peeled open the freshness seal, tried one, and found them to be as crispy and tasty as the day I bought them. That’s great for the consumer, you know, a product with a multi month or year shelf life. But dumber than hell for the seller. I would’ve bought a new pack of oreos because the others were stale. They just lost a sale. Idiots.
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I cant even buy oreos
I eat them so fast they dont last two days. Too many calories……
by traydawg on Jan 9, 2012 11:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hex yes.
I just put 15 in a cup, filled it up with milk, and had Oreo cereal. Fuckin good.
Now I’m going to use hershey bars an a spoon to dip into the peanut butter. Reeses got shit on me. I can build some shit.
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Thanks to Jon Jones........
there isn’t a single fighter in the world at 205 that actually seems relevant anymore……I suppose Rashad is still worthy of mention, but he’s on life-support…..Jones will toy with him before knocking his ass out. LHW used to be the most intriguing division in MMA, now it’s even less intriguing than MW.
i wouldnt go that far.. macida/jone excites me alot more than..
okami/silva. shit was laughable
by letstalkmma on Jan 10, 2012 12:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I can’t argue with that……..but at least there’s still a fight with Sonnen that has the potential to challenge Anderson………and maybe some of the bigger WW’s can potentially challenge……but with Jones, once he beats Rashad, there’s nobody…….and as far as Rashad goes, Jones is a terrible matchup for him, Jones will beat him to a pulp. Jones won’t be challenged until he moves up to HW.
+ 0.5
Even a machida rematch is interesting , had machida gotten away from the fence at the end of the 2nd , it woulda been a whole different fight .
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Jan 10, 2012 1:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
king mo makes me laugh.
he knows rampage would truck him or he’d be looking for that ufc contract.
One Two buckle my shoe.
This matchup would be huge for SF and I really doubt Rampage would get paid less especially since he is on his way out
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Funny how Mo talks shit about Rampage again
after just signing a 4 fight deal with Strikeforce LOL
Slappin da Bass mon.
by Rampagelangford on Jan 10, 2012 5:58 AM EST reply actions
To be fair, he Zuffa wouldn't allow him to transfer to the UFC.
He didn’t have much of a choice in the matter.
by amendamatrix on Jan 10, 2012 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
wouldn't let him?
you mean they didn’t want to sign him, he is a marginal talent in Strikeforce that would have nothing for the top 10 LHW in the UFC, not worthy of the UFC yet, if he wins out his new contract, then he can talk UFC.
What the hell am I thinking when I picked the cowboy from New Mexico to beat the other guy from 209. I should have joined the Dark Side and learned more about MMA than spend most of my time watching episodes of New Girl, Nikita and Jersey Shore. Next time, I will be more careful when betting with Phasebook
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King Mo may not be top 10, but he is definently good enough to be in the UFC right now.
If Tito Ortiz, a guy who has only won one fight since 2006 is worthy of being in the UFC, King Mo is definitely deserving to get an opportunity from the promotion. Just because a fighter isn’t currently in someone’s top 10 list, doesn’t automatically mean they should be denied an invitation to fight in the UFC, or else guys like Ben Henderson wouldn’t even be able to show the masses what he can do. If you watched the way King Mo fights, you would be crazy to think he is not worthy of at least fighting on a prelim of a UFC card.
by amendamatrix on Jan 10, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Tito has name value and legend of the sport status in the UFC
Mo is that guy who walks out with a crown on
Tito is 1-6-1 in his last 8 fights. In other words, Tito only has one win since 2006, one win in 5 years.
Tito has zero upside, and he’s not a big draw compared to the other top fighters in the UFC.
UFC 106 – 375K Main Event against Forest Griffin
UFC 132 – 350K Co-Main event against Ryan Bader, I’d bet Faber pulled in the audience
UFC 133 – 310K Main event against Rashad (This event convinced me that Rashad is not a draw unless he is fighting someone with a current big name like Chuck, or someone he has a high profile feud with, like Rampage.)
You rate Tito’s name value too high since the cards where he headlined, or co-main evented, have fell progressively in buy rates. UFC 140 and 121 don’t count because Lesnar and Jones/Machida were the main attractions on those cards.
King Mo is perfectly worthy of getting a shot in the UFC, and any argument you try to make against it is ridiculous when guys like Brandon Vera are still fighting in it. At least King Mo is someone who has a good chance at shaking up a division much like Ben Henderson did at light weight. He may not beat Jones, or guys like Machida and Rampage, but at least we will have some new blood to get interested in seeing instead of the same guys from 2001-2006 fighting each other over and over.
by amendamatrix on Jan 11, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
I would prefer to see Rampage/Mo than Rampage/Bader
Especially in Japan where both men are well known. Oh well. King Mo vs Gegard and his improved wrestling is good enough for me. Just so long as it happens.
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