UFC veteran Hermes Franca sentenced to over three years in prison for sexual abuse
All the way back in May of last year, former UFC lightweight fighter Hermes Franca turned himself over to the Clackamas County Jail in Portland, Oregon, charged with seven counts of sexual abuse in the first degree as well as two counts of unlawful sexual penetration in the second degree.
He made bail and his court date was set for later in the year. Now, the hammer has come down and Franca finds himself staring down the barrel of a long prison sentence.
OregonLive.com has it:
A former Ultimate Fighting Championship lightweight title contender has been sentenced to more than three years in prison after being convicted this week of sexually abusing an underage female student at his Clackamas martial arts school.
Hermes Franca Barros, 37, pleaded guilty in Clackamas County Court on Wednesday to one count of unlawful penetration and one count of first-degree sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 3½ years in prison.
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Barros will also have four and a half years of post-prison supervision and must register as a sex offender.
Do the crime, do the time. Case closed.
This likely signals the end of a fairly long and relatively successful career in mixed martial arts (MMA) for Franca, who, at one time, challenged for the UFC lightweight title.
Franca (22-12) was one of the industry's most feared lightweights not many years ago.
After winning eight straight fights including submission victories over Toby Imada, Jamie Varner and Nate Diaz, Franca finished Spencer Fisher at Fight Night 8 to earn a crack at Sean Sherk's 155-pound title at UFC 77 back in July 2007.
He would drop a unanimous decision to "The Muscle Shark" and subsequently test positive for steroids.
Unfortunately his career would go into a tailspin following his loss to Sherk. After returning from a 12-month suspension stemming from his positive drug test, he came up short against Frankie Edgar in his July 2008 comeback fight at UFC Fight Night 14.
The Brazilian managed to bounce back with a win against his former Brazilian jiu-jitsu teacher Marcus Aurelio at UFC 90: "Silva vs. Cote" in October but then shortly thereafter was arrested in Jupiter, Fla., on suspicion of Driving Under the Influence (DUI).
Franca was scratched from his 155-pound match up against Joe Lauzon at UFC Fight Night 17 in Feb. 2009 due to an ACL tear in his right knee. He was paired up with Tyson Griffin at UFC 103 later in the year where he was stopped via TKO in the second round.
He was later released by the UFC.
Franca competed four times in 2011, going 3-1 and losing by knockout to Thawa Ril in his last fight under the IFC banner back on April 29.
His next fight, if there is one, will likely take place in a recreational room in the big house.
Quite the fall from grace.
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Well god damn
Jason Miller is a retard with straight hair and curly teeth.Hes a couple of dolly mixtures short of a quarter and spends his time swinging of a tyre attached to a rope! I should have listened to the MMA royalty on here,especially Jay,ANS and ViolentMike who kept reminding me that Mikes wrestling was the best at 185 and 205 and that if Greg Jackson,Randy Couture,Blackhouse,ATT or team quest ever needed any tips on game planning Wolfsalir is just a phone call away
by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 7, 2012 2:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This is interesting because it does not sound like a 'rape case' its more like someones parents didnt like their little whore sleeping with an older guy
But someone please correct me if im wrong, rape generally nets you alot more time here in the states so that can’t be what happened.
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by Khaos_Warrior on Jan 7, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
My opinion
Rape=1 year in prison
Murder=you never get out of prison
Rape is a bad thing…but every case is different. Sometimes what is happening isn’t rape…then the woman decides its rape thus fucking over the man. Call me an asshole but whatever, it’s not like you killed someone
Alright dude
That is officially the stupidest post I’ve ever seen
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
dogs don't count dude
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
!!!!!!!!!! Win !!!!!
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by wooly shambler on Jan 7, 2012 4:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sorry broski
gotta call ya an asshole here
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Take it back , you know damn well he's not the stupidest
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by wooly shambler on Jan 7, 2012 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
danago has that honor
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
If your mom and sister
Got raped by a guy like Bob Sapp , you would say he only desrved a yr in jail ?
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
That was my first thought too.
But the victim was under 14 years old. Had she been 17, i would have cut him some slack.
Plus, he was an authority figure at his martial arts school—she was his student. That makes this bad too.
I also got rape charges put on me for having sex with a girl who was 14
She said she was 17 even her mom said she was 17. I was 21 at the time. It was bullshit. The whole thing with me and her was consenual
Her mother said she was 17???
I’m not one to pry, so I won’t. But I hardly ever judge those accused of rape….
When I was 14 years old (1994), I listened to Love Line with Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla a lot. Adam shared a story about how the worst ass beating he ever got in his life was when he walked out on a girl who was throwing herself on him.
He rejected her and she got all pissed and yelled, at a party, “HE TRIED TO RAPE ME!” Next thing he knows, he was surrounded by dudes. He claims he was getting the better of them (cuz he was into boxing) until he got hit with something behind his knee.
That story has stuck with me… I’m always dubious about chicks who cry rape… and those statistics about 1 in 8 women get raped… i’m dubious of stats like that too…
This was just a rant…
Yup I couldn't believe her mother said that
I found out two weeks later after we stopping seeing each other. I called the mom and said wtf is wrong with you. You let your little girl take a bus 700 kms to see me knowing I was 21 and she was 14. Her response. What was I supposed to do!! I can’t control her! I told her she was fucked in the head and screamed at her for 20 minutes. But mind you this 14 year old was the best fuck ive ever had to this date
I say that his last sentence is the dumbest thing ever posted here
To think that is one thing. To actually come out and say that for others to see is another thing. 21 year old banging a 14 year old……you from Alabama?
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Are you being serious yourself?
Do you understand anything about the legal status of children and the age of consent laws?
I might think it
but I won’t come out and say it………………
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
lol
hellrazer by far has the dumbest shit ever said on Mania right here!!! Can’t believe he fn said that shit! Best sex he ever had! Obviously you don’t get it much if you think a fn child is the best you’ve ever had! And what a twisted fuck to say something like that! He is defending himself like he thinks he was right bc mommy said she was 17, which I don’t believe!
I didn’t reply to that fn weirdo bc I never will! You all should follow suit and never reply to that wast of a life! Wonder how many times he’s been in jail?!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
No....I'm from Ontario
Never heard of Alberta
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Could have done without that last line.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I am no cop but I am sure I have heard it all, too.
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Crying wolf rape vs actual, putrid rape is almost as convoluted a topic as crying wolf domestic violence vs actual, putrid domestic violence.
Seems as though common sense and a tad of decency would eliminate many of societies biggest issues.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Well said.
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
one time i told a guy i was ...........
Nope not gonna tell that joke
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Stupid false accusers give the real victims a bad name . It makes hard to know if a girl is just a psycho or an actual victim , you here shit like this all the time. I’d like to know what the penalty is for ruining someones life by falsely accusing them
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
i doubt there is a penalty
any penalty would likely be seen as a move to get genuine victims to not come forward after a crime.
You’d probably have to prove malicious intent to go after her for slander/libel. But my guess is that those cases are hard to prove…
Is this even a penal issue? Could be civil… in which case you’d likely only be able to sue for money that she’ll never pay.
Don't be a moron
A huge percentage of rapes never get reported because women are scared to come forward. So whatever the reported numbers are, there’s probably 10 times that number getting raped.
+1
Go ask Miguel Torres…..he’s had some rape classes so he’s probably a walking MMA rape encyclopedia
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
but the ramifications of a false accusation are extremely serious, and I would like to know that perpetrators of these falsities or held accountable.
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
also remember
that just because a woman cries rape, doesn’t mean it’s rape.
A recent CDC study concluded that 1 in 5 women get raped. The problem here is two things: 1) this means that 1 in 5 men are rapists and 2) suspects need to be proven guilty before they’re convicted.
What ??? Doesn't mean that 1 in 5 guys are rapists bc 1 in 5 women get raped!
The scum of the earth (hellrazer and friends) that do this are repeat offenders! Some girls do get raped more than once, but the guys who rape more than 1 women far excede that!
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by zackmiller091 on Feb 14, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Some more food for thought
Someone who tourtures or kills a dog for no reason should get a stiffer sentence than someone who commits a rape
Basically?
Dude did rape a child. That first sentence is almost the dumbest statement on mania, next to him stating that a 14yr old was the best lay he’s ever had.
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
He is sharing a life experience. If anything, the girl's mother should be in jail for knowing the truth and allowing the situation to continue. Most rape cases are cut and dried but there are situations where the area is very gray.
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Where's the gray area?
Statutory rape laws are based on the premise that until a person reaches a certain age, that individual is legally incapable of consenting to sexual intercourse. Thus, the law assumes, even if he or she willingly engages in sexual intercourse, the sex is not consensual.
ALSO
[Romeo and Julliet] laws generally apply to a couple whose ages differ by less than a specified number of years. They are, however, generally unavailable in any case where the older participant has an authoritative position over the younger regardless of relative age, such as a teacher/student, coach/player or guardian/ward relationship, or if any physical force was used or serious physical injury resulted. This is normally accomplished by making acts involving these circumstances separate crimes to which the “Romeo and Juliet” defense does not apply.
So Hermes is a disgusting betrayer of trust as an authority figure, as well as a pedophile.
I was referring to the poster who incriminated himslef on here, not Hermes. Hermes is a clear cut case.
For example, you are 18, a nice kid with a future and your gf is 17.
You 2 have sex on prom night.
Under the letter of the law you should go to jail. Really?
This is not a gray area for you?
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Like I wrote above, Romeo and Julliet law protects that
But dude above said his 21-year-old ass fucked a 14-year-old. Pretty clear cut and dried.
He posted that he thought she was 17. Romeo and Juliet protects him, too.
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think so
“I swear she told me she was 18!”
Doesn’t cut it in a court of law. You have to literally be within a couple of years of the child.
I disagree. Misrepresentation allows for settlements that would suspend jail sentences.
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
OJR wtf is wrong with you!?
You know ur my boy and all, but ur saying some fd up shit! You always have clear well thought out posts, but this is nuts! SHE WAS 14!!! Not 16 or 17, but 14! Not even close to 17 or 18! I don’t care what she looked like, dude couldn’t tell she was a child! I have a niece who’s almost 14 and if some 21 year old even touched her I would be in jail for murder! Much respect for you brotha, but you can’t seriously defend this prick!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Thanks man, like I say the mom and her said she was 17
And sorry to all those people that are mad but that was the best lay ever. I shouldn’t have say it but I can’t go back on my word now. It would make me look like a pussy lol
Did you meet via the internet?
(serious question)
Taking bus 700km, only knowing for 2 weeks, etc.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Me and a buddy picked them up off the side of the road
And I’m being serious. We wanted ass that night. We weird thing about that night was that the girl my friend fucked and another girl went missing and never to be found. That was about 9 years ago and it’s pretty serious. It made the front page of my newspaper. I couldn’t believe it. They were hitchhiking back to where they came from and were never heard from again. I was questioned my the police and I thought it was a joke…until they got all serious. It was the most stressful thing I’ve ever been through. I got a call from the Edmonton police about a missing prostitute. And I thought fuck now I have too tell my gf of 3 years that I fucked hookers before I met her. I found out it was the girls I met that night and not a prostitute. But still I had to tell my gf everything. Those girls r still missing to this day and it scares me
are there names so i can run a search on this story?
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck i want to throw up
I found out that there skulls were found way north of edmonton. I want to cry this shit is sick. I was I last person who saw them alive. Sorry…link www.cbc.ca/news/Canada/Edmonton/story/2011/06/17/Edmonton-knott-remains-identified.html
link doesn't lead to anything
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
neither do his replies
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
when I click it
it brings to an unfound page.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ab/news-nouvelles/2011/110617-kare-eng.htm
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
what is a huamn remain?
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
there remains?
were they over their or over they’re? Glad they we’re found…..
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
double homicide
Also
It is believed that Krystle KNOTT was last seen alive with Rene GUNNING at West Edmonton Mall on February 18th, 2005.
Apparently not,
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
So you and your buddy are with three girls at night.
Your’s (14) is fine, and his (16 &19) wide up missing and dead.
So many questions.
Did all three leave together that night?
Put in a call to Dateline to run a story….seriously.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
No. That night was the second time I met the girl
I met them at the mall. There was 4 or 5 of them. Two of the girl came with me and the one I was fuckin. And the other two girls wanted to hitchhike home so we said seeya later. And that’s the last anyone has ever heard of them until found dead
you are a DF
your thread was dated June/11 and you just found out right now. You are as simple as you sound. Thanks for clarifying what I already had assumed.
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck you man this shit really happened and it wasn't me that did it
This is what happened one night that I left some girls. That ironically were underage. Fuck you asshole. I just found out right now that I was one of the last people to see them alive and I just found out that there remains we’re found once again FUCK YOU
I think he's referring to
picking up and fucking a hitchiking teenager because you “wanted ass that night.”
3rd party observation.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Me neither! But he is fn retarded!!!
Sad too bc if he can’t tell than what doest it say about him? He thinks it’s one big joke too! Wish we could send this whole page to the police over there!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
I flagged him as we all should!
Hope he gets a lifetime ban! Kevin got banned for MUCH MUCH less!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
That last line of his, is what stirred the pot.
Not to mention, he thought she was 17, still a crime, but that’s neither here nor there.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it would have gone over better if he said
When I found out she was 14 I was mortified and felt horrible about it.
I was but she was still an awesome lay
Why lie to others??? To say the good thing and get the right response. I don’t give a fuck about that shit. Oh yeah"I love all and do 10 hail Mary’s an evening" fuck that I tell it as it is. If you don’t like it don’t read. I’m sure some maniacs on here appqreciate my honesty
the ones that appreciate it are probably Diaz fans
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Haha! Now that's a good one.
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Gray Area
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by zackmiller091 on Feb 14, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
His mom and sister would rape bob sapp
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by wooly shambler on Jan 7, 2012 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
MOM and Sister
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by zackmiller091 on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
every rape is different.
And though I don’t think a sentence for rape should be 1 year across the board, i do think a lot of the outrage about it is phony—certainly not from the victim’s perspective but a lot of people have this fake outrage about it.
Some people want death sentences for rapists. Come on! death? Murder is certainly worse than rape and they usually don’t get death.
Every sex crime is different but 1 year is too light.
+1 just give the shambler your address
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by wooly shambler on Jan 7, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
shambled by the wooly shambler !
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
I think hellrazer may have just hit us
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
You're an idiot apparently.
Read what I said again. I’m sure you’re such a much better person than I am… what with the wishing rape on people and everything…
If you still have a problem with what I wrote, tell me exactly what about and why.
Otherwise fuck off.
I will speak on behalf of unambig; it's saying that 1 year is too light!
He is simply saying that if you or anyone close to you had that done to them than yea 1 year is not even close to being enough!!! You think that victim will be normal in a year….. or ever?
Life in jail!!! Sick of this liberal shit! You know that some country’s cut your hand off for stealing? They average less than 1 theft a year! Some country’s have crazy DWI laws too and guess what? People don’t drink and drive! Not saying that such drastic measures need to be taken, but if they were I would be ok with it!
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Speak on behalf
Why lie to others??? To say the good thing and get the right response. I don’t give a fuck about that shit. Oh yeah"I love all and do 10 hail Mary’s an evening" fuck that I tell it as it is. If you don’t like it don’t read. I’m sure some maniacs on here appqreciate my honesty. anabolic steroids
by zackmiller091 on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Rapists should get life in prison!
If you can do that to another human than you are not fit to be in society with the rest and NEVER will be! Those people never get well!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
He won't be fucked with.
unfortunately.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
I bet there will be alot of technical ground wars going on
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he can break
he could break someone’s penis with his butt cheeks
try saying that to a rape victim
hopefully you’re daughter experiences this….if she did, I highly doubt you’d be okay with your daughter’s rapist getting only 1 year in prison
Life's what happens while you're making other plans
hopefullly your daughter NEVER experiences this
sigh..so wish SBN allowed editing of posts.. i’d never wish someone was a rape victim…
Life's what happens while you're making other plans
I was like, " damn he's harsh!" lol Glad you fixed it.
If that did ever happen to him (God I hope it never does) he would SURELY be singing a diferent note!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
DOUCHE!!!!
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I don't know the deatails but
Unlawful penetration can be a few things (inanimate objects, digits, etc) but it’s sexual assault all the way. My gut feeling is he as a teacher violated the trust of an underage girl in a setting that was supposed to safe and sacred. Franca took advantage of his authority as instructor and is getting what he deserves here plain and simple.
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They don't say the age of the girl but if he's 37 (my age) he has no business penetrating a 16 or 17-year-old
He has no business penetrating anyone under 21, IMO.
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
So I guess 25-26 is the absolute minimum decent age for someone of Hermes age
I knew a 42-year-old guy who only dated 22-year-olds though. Nobody really though he was sick, but it was kind of weird the way he kept getting them at 22 even as he got older.
22 year old women are a severe pain in the ass to deal with. How does he do it?
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
General rule of thumb
is over 18 doesn’t fuck under 18 without assuming the risk.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
There's protection in Canada for that:
The age of consent for sexual activity is 16 years. It was raised from 14 years on May 1, 2008 by the Tackling Violent Crime Act.
The Criminal Code provides “close in age” or “peer group” exceptions.
For example, a 14 or 15 year old can consent to sexual activity with a partner as long as the partner is less than five years older and there is no relationship of trust, authority or dependency or any other exploitation of the young person. This means that if the partner is 5 years or older than the 14 or 15 year old, any sexual activity will be considered a criminal offence unless it occurs after they are married to each other (in accordance with the “solemnization” of marriage requirements that are established in each province and territory, governing how and when a marriage can be performed, including the minimum age at which someone may marry).
I don't feel like looking it up on my saturday
but what about here in the States?
Is it not 18-18?
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Consent laws are made at the state level in the U.S.
There exist several federal statutes related to protecting minors from sexual predators, but none of them imposes an age limit on specific sexual acts.
Each U.S. state (and the District of Columbia) has its own age of consent. Currently state laws set the age of consent at 16, 17 or 18. The most common age is 16.
Certain states, such as Florida, provide for romeo and juliet laws:
The Florida Romeo & Juliet Law passed in 2007 is designed to protect individuals from the sex offender list. The victim in the case must be between 14 and 17, a willing participant in the sexual activity and no more than four years younger than the offender.
I didn't know the American justice system used terms like "unlawful penetration"
Why can’t they just use sexual assault like the Canadian justice system
We are
douchebags here who never want to call something what is.
by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 7, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
he drinks like a fish
I remember him getting a few dui’s. Douche bag. No means no hermes.
by ElStIkO on Jan 7, 2012 2:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
sex offenders need to get more time
3 years for ruining a young girls entire life. Fuck that. Hermes vs overeem book it
by ElStIkO on Jan 7, 2012 2:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I believe it was one of his students
may not have been a female.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I checked it over
Says underage female student
by ElStIkO on Jan 7, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
rodger that
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hermes vs Bubba has been booked...
Winner gets a honey bun, a box of smoke, and a undisclosed sexual favor…
by DADEAL1 on Jan 7, 2012 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think it was that kind of rape.
I think it happened 7 or 8 times but the other charges were dropped because he plead guilty.
So as Whoopie Goldberg would say, it was rape but it wasn't rape-rape
There are a shocking number of idiots around here
please don't impress me with your whoppi goldberg quotes.
this wasn’t rape. If it were, I doubt he would only be charged for unlawful penetration and sexual abuse.
Every sex crime isn’t a rape, dumb ass.
My poll should definitely be added.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions
Thats what he said.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Jan 7, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ALWAYS THOUGHT HE LOOKED LIKE A PEDO
fucking child molester! what ever happened to paying for hookers?
as opposed to you?
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Guess he was over that. Needed a new fix. How it works usually
Disgusting. If this isn’t just a huge overreaction to what happened he should serve more than three, for sure.
"It's just an abounded mineshaft! You just go climb aound in it!
Fuck that
He shouldn’t serve more than 3. What he did was wrong but 3 years is a long time. You ever spent a night in jail? Well if you did time that by a thousand
Doesn't matter, he will never look good on this site!
Don’t think the dirtbag cares either.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
I wonder how old is the girl. 12 is different from 17.
17 is still not right but maybe that would explain so little time? 3 and a half sounds less than deserved.
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He put in time
writing the piece and linking.
I copied/Pasted
not uncommon.
Only Jesse gives credit where it’s due (;
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
He definitely should have gotten more time.
Crap… I was going to comment on how we need more facts here… But I found all the facts I need.
Second degree unlawful sexual penetration is (http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.408)
a person commits the crime of unlawful sexual penetration in the second degree if the person penetrates the vagina, anus or penis of another with any object other than the penis or mouth of the actor and the victim is under 14 years of age.
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt but there is no doing that here. Agree with others… he should have gotten much more time.
And this is Sexual Abuse in the First Degree
(1) A person commits the crime of sexual abuse in the first degree when that person:
(a) Subjects another person to sexual contact and:
(A) The victim is less than 14 years of age;
(B) The victim is subjected to forcible compulsion by the actor; or
© The victim is incapable of consent by reason of being mentally defective, mentally incapacitated or physically helpless; or
(b) Intentionally causes a person under 18 years of age to touch or contact the mouth, anus or sex organs of an animal for the purpose of arousing or gratifying the sexual desire of a person.
Penetrates the penis?
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 7, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL mis-read
Oh well….. I stand by it……….
Penetrates the penis?!?!
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 7, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
penetrate the penis..
With a Q-tip dipped in polyresin & crushed glass in quick succession..the resulting item becomes an instrument of unfathomable torture…but some people are kinky..
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by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 7, 2012 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ahhh that explains it
Jason Miller is a retard with straight hair and curly teeth.Hes a couple of dolly mixtures short of a quarter and spends his time swinging of a tyre attached to a rope! I should have listened to the MMA royalty on here,especially Jay,ANS and ViolentMike who kept reminding me that Mikes wrestling was the best at 185 and 205 and that if Greg Jackson,Randy Couture,Blackhouse,ATT or team quest ever needed any tips on game planning Wolfsalir is just a phone call away
by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 7, 2012 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
War Franca ?! bad joke
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions
I think he just has a big head.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Jan 7, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How do you know ??
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Jan 7, 2012 4:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So not right!!!!
Pedos should get a death penalty, or at least castration, not a few years in prison. Disgusting creature!
Looks bloated.
wonder what he weighs in that picture.
REAL NEWS !
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 3:24 PM EST reply actions
April
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
lol :)
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by daniel worby on Jan 7, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Middle easy via Big Nog via some brazilian outlet
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions
Big time !!!!!!!!
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions
I was actually a Hermes fan back in the day
Dare say thats going to change. No means no you little purple haired chiwawa
Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...
"His next fight, if there is one, will likely take place in a recreational room in the big house."
Or the showers. Rapists get raped in prison.
Holy shit I didn't know you existed
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Jan 7, 2012 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OT: Little known Canadian fact
It is illegal to commit buggery (anal) with a person under the age of 19:
Canadian law now permits anal sex by consenting parties above the age of 18, provided no more than two people are present. The bill repealing Canada’s sodomy laws was the Criminal Law Amendment Act, 1968-69 (Bill C-150), which received royal assent on June 27, 1969
18
Fuck, a 28 yr old makes me look like a pedophile….18, I wish.
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Shave your bum crack , it'll even out the playing field
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Jan 7, 2012 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No need to shave anything anymore
I’m married. If she ain’t shaving, I’m not either.
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
That's horrible
I’m down there for ‘fun’, not to drudge my way through an unmaintained amazon.
aaaaaand I just read your name
Fuckin’ A, man.
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I did that once
funny how just a little hair makes that much of a difference when it is cold out. Had raisin bag all winter until some hair grew back. Didn’t like the feeling of the short hairs either….too f’n itchy.
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
lol
I’m Italian, shave head to toe every week! I fn hate hair and been doing that since I was 18! I use a buzzer bc a straight edge would just hurt growing back. Had to share that with you all! lol
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Yeah, when I was in college last year as a 37-year-old it felt wrong seeing all these 18 and 19-year-olds
Had to avert my eyes a lot to avoid unclean thoughts
He wanted penetration, he's gonna get it!
Plus…
Didn’t that dude just admit to knocking off a 14 year old? That’s enough for him to go join herme’s..pass on our best wishes you sick f*ck!
by ejt85 on Jan 7, 2012 4:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Is it just me
or does his head look really swollen in that picture, haha
I knew a guy who..............
Worked at a grocery outlet and they caught a father and son committing buggery in the bathroom , The son was of a legal age so no charges where filed , does that sound right ?
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 6:17 PM EST reply actions
this thread is fucked
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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
not as fucked as hellrazer
I’ve learned, via the internet, that there is a lifeform below an amoeba
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, the ball sac you came from
correct.
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm as fucked as your mother
When your father blew his nuts from his scrotum into your mother and created your faggot ass
blackfoot or chipewyan?
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 7, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO at Cali's response. Just perfect.
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by OJR on Jan 7, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm srry
I’m srry i got uncle Hermes in trouble
herpes franca
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions
this kinda of thread could never happen at one of those pussy sites like bloody elbow
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions
actually i think hellrazer is responsible for the fuckedness of this thread
as much as herpes franca is
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
lol
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
It was alright that you admitted being charged for rape and whatever but that was fucking stupid when you bragged about 10 times that this young girl was the best lay you had. You should have kept that to yourself. That was just plain out wrong
by zesotheclown on Jan 7, 2012 9:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Either way you say it it wasn’t good. To brag about something like that isnt cool
by zesotheclown on Jan 7, 2012 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In my final thought this evening
If a sensitive topic is posted, if your not ready to hear someones feelings on the subject, then shut the fuck up! Don’t read and go to the next thread. Thank you geno and co for not deleting any of the stuff that was said today. I really respect that. And to end I will say that finding out that I was one of the last people to see those girls alive hit me hard today. I’m not a heartless cunt and I feel for these girls and I cried when I heard there remains we’re found. RIP kristal
In hindsight, this is so fucking awesome
Thank you geno
What a clusterfuck, this post.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
Didn't even realize that this was geno"s post! So if you don't attack him personally (like Kevin did) then he doesn't care what you write!!!
Even if it’s bragging about fn rape!!!! OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!! What’s this site coming too! Was so much better before these newbie writers and this sbnation crap!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
In fairness
Geno did ban him. I would have bleached the thing and started the whole post over without the insanity, but that’s my style and not Geno’s.
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