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Joe Rogan: Retiring from MMA is incredibly difficult

Former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell retired from mixed martial arts (MMA) in 2010 after suffering three consecutive knockout losses.

For most regular folks, the day they can retire and cash in on those 401K benefits can't come soon enough.

Normally, retirement comes when one is in their 60's, some sooner, some later. For a professional fighter, though, it usually comes sooner rather than later.

Whether it's an injury or age that forces a fighter to hang up their gloves for good, the decision to walk away from the sport they have dedicated blood, sweat and tears to is, undoubtedly, a very hard one to make.

Often times, a pro fighter tries to hang on to the glory days of yesteryear and takes one too many fights, such as the case of Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Hall of Famer Dan Severn, who, at the age of 53, is still competing, losing back-to-back fights in 2011.

Via a post on "The Underground", UFC color commentator Joe Rogan, who has been around MMA for over 14 years and has developed relationships with a lot of yesterdays and today's top stars, gives his insight on just how hard it can be for a professional fighter to reach the decision to step away from the sport:

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"One of the things I think about sometimes with all the great fighters that I've seen come and go is just how difficult it must be for some of them to leave behind the incredible excitement and intensity of the world of being a professional fighter and then reset your life and find yourself something else to dedicate your time and interest to. Fighting is such an all-encompassing job. It really has to be, especially at the highest levels for you to be successful. The competition is so steep that to compete at the top of the sport of MMA you really need to be completely dedicated to training and improving all day every day. When it's time to move past that and into a new phase of life I would think that for some it must be incredibly difficult. And that's not even taking into consideration how difficult it is for some of these ultra competitive guys to know when it's time to step away. What got many of them to be successful at fighting is an incredible belief in themselves that defied the odds and the doubters. In their mind often only they know what they're capable of, and in the long run they've often proven people wrong many times on the way to being a professional. It must be very difficult to judge exactly when you want to end your career. One of the many things I love that the UFC does is they use a lot of fighters as commentators, they've got Chuck Liddell an awesome position in the company - they help these guys have options. I really enjoy watching guys step away from competing and become great coaches as well. All in all, a fighter stepping away from the sport must be a tough decision for some. "

2011 was a year that saw several tops stars walk away from competing in MMA, namely B.J. Penn after his loss at UFC 137 to Nick Diaz and Matt Hughes after his first round loss to Josh Koscheck at UFC 135: Jones vs. Rampage, though he says he is simply "on the shelf" for the time being.

Most recently, Brock Lesnar, who battled diverticulitis on two separate occasions, walked away from MMA at the age of 34 after his first round loss to Alistair Overeem last weekend (Dec., 30. 2011) at UFC 141: "Lesnar vs. Overeem."

After 14 years in the game, Tito Ortiz came to the decision that he will retire this year once he competes one more time this summer. Another star who may be in the twilight of his career is Wanderlei Silva. Though he has no plans of calling it a day anytime soon, UFC President Dana White has stated he wouldn't mind seeing "The Axe Murderer" hang up his gloves.

Regardless of what leads to the tough decision, the day will come when a professional fighter has to cross that bridge and realize it is simply time to walk way.

It won't always be easy, but it will always be necessary.

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Can’t the same be said for athletes in almost all sports?

"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick

by mythbuster on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 AM EST reply actions  

its harder for mma fighters to let go of that because the training in order to compete at an elite level is not comparable to any other sport(takes up alot of their lives)

Especially shit like Golf lol(which shouldnt even be considered a sport mainly because its so fucking boring if Fitch was older I would say he invented it)

Also the damage that can happen if you dont let go is bad which is why people bring up retirement in mma fairly often.

The excitment the thrill are also on a much higher level its mano a mano the downs are as well.

If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!

by Khaos_Warrior on Jan 7, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Fuck golf

Jason Miller is a retard with straight hair and curly teeth.Hes a couple of dolly mixtures short of a quarter and spends his time swinging of a tyre attached to a rope! I should have listened to the MMA royalty on here,especially Jay,ANS and ViolentMike who kept reminding me that Mikes wrestling was the best at 185 and 205 and that if Greg Jackson,Randy Couture,Blackhouse,ATT or team quest ever needed any tips on game planning Wolfsalir is just a phone call away

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 7, 2012 3:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Golf, while horrid to watch, is quite fun when actually played.

Cooler of beer, couple stogies and a cool, windless day on the golf course is about as good a day as one could ask for.

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by *Californication* on Jan 7, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

some of my favorite days are on the links shooting a 125:)

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by detroit_fan on Jan 7, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Great visual. Golf is a great sport.

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- James M. Barrie

by Rilly on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I like watching golf

I hate watching a Fitch fight. Except his last one

by Hellrazer on Jan 7, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

alright bro

Try and shoot under 150 on 18. I’m no diehard golf fan but it is hard as shit. You don’t think guys on the PGA tour train every day? Get real, if you are a professional athlete you NEED to train every day. And if you hang around too long, you start to get embarrassed, whether it be KTFO or losing by 20 strokes.

by WallyBallz on Jan 7, 2012 4:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Golf

Easily the hardest sport to be the best at!!! No lucky punches or provided cans…simply the best player is the best

by the real mo on Jan 7, 2012 6:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

True.

But it’s still boring.

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 7:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Boring to watch others play

But extremely fun, exciting, and highly competitive sport to play is golf..

by dragonassault on Jan 7, 2012 8:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I've never played

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I tried it once but failed horribly. Couldn’t get a grasp on hitting the ball with the end of the club. It’s also why I fail at tennis, if I’m not hitting the object closely to my hand I can’t measure it properly.

I’m not bad at table tennis though, or pool for that matter.

MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.

by The Ruiner on Jan 7, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

CHAMPS of 2012

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by zackmiller091 on Apr 19, 2012 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It’s virtually unwatchable on TV but a lot of fun to compete in, even if like me you can barely hit the ball. And all sports take a lifetime of dedication and hard work in training in order to reach the highest level, natural talent can take you so far but without putting in the effort and being prepared to sacrifice time with your loved ones or away from your craft outside of the public eye then you’ll never reach the top. That’s why it’s so tough for any top athlete to transition from such a hectic lifestyle to one of normality post-retirement, especially for those who were at one point at the elite level in their sport.

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by David W-S on Jan 7, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That's absurd

The training it takes to play in the Nba nfl or NHL is just as hard. It’s just a different type of training. Your out of your mind if you think those athletes don’t put in as much work to get where they are. A much bigger and more competitive stage then mma at this point. And IMO its harder to get to those leagues

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by Kalejohncox on Jan 7, 2012 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What about training Cage Rage?

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't follow?

Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain

"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali

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by Kalejohncox on Jan 7, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

ah damn

i thought you said

The training it takes to play in the Nba nfl or NHL

lol.. as in “i train UFC”

lol.. as in “i train UFC”i was trying to be funny and failed.

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i have no idea why it doubled the "lol as in.."

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha i see what your doing here Tom

Trying to get me back for the fedor chirps
You sneaky scoundrel

Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain

"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali

1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar

by Kalejohncox on Jan 7, 2012 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ahh you caught me lol

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Btw how do you copy what someone else has said

Into a block like that and then edit it?

Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain

"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali

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2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar

by Kalejohncox on Jan 8, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

weigh

according to my idea weight is not an important as your strength you keep you strength at high level in fighting. Plummer Weight also help you but without strength you can not do any thing.

by zackmiller091 on Apr 22, 2012 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by zackmiller091 on Apr 18, 2012 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

UG always has good stuff

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

You don't need this idiot to tell the obvious

Tim Elliot had the best knockout of the year. FACT

by Lance Storm on Jan 7, 2012 1:01 AM EST reply actions  

gay

Midgets don't have feelings right?

by G-Rated on Jan 7, 2012 1:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Don't be mean

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

gaÝ

Midgets don't have feelings right?

by G-Rated on Jan 7, 2012 1:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No comprende muchacho

entendido?

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Esta bien

Midgets don't have feelings right?

by G-Rated on Jan 7, 2012 1:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

no problema

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Eso no es lindo.

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

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by zackmiller091 on Apr 22, 2012 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ Penn Retires???

I thought he just trash talked with the Diaz’s Camp????

by Edward E on Jan 7, 2012 1:11 AM EST reply actions  

He did retire initially

Now it looks like the yes men have convinced BJ that the loss was a fluke and he’s still invincible so he’s gone back to the tried and tested ways of talking shit about superior opponents to make himself relevant again.

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by David W-S on Jan 7, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

what?? why did it "get your hopes up"???

Rogan is 1000 times better than Goldberg.

“one could make the argument that fighter X won round 1, and fighter Y won round 2….”

by WallyBallz on Jan 7, 2012 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

To be fair it doesn't take much to be 1000x better than Goldberg

Rogan’s a decent commentator though I’d like to see other potential commentators get a chance at events like Florian, Franklin and even Nate Quarry as the Goldberg-Rogan partnership is getting stale. That being said I’d much rather see Mike replaced first, at this point he’s nothing more than a walking advertisement for whatever crappy product is sponsoring that event.

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by David W-S on Jan 7, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Florian doesn't have enough pep in this step

Meaning when the exciting stuff happens he just seems boring as shit. I can get on the Mir bandwagon

by Hellrazer on Jan 7, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Its true

Most people wont say it but mma is A me first sport especially mentality wise. I think if you look at most fighters careers they always retire to late like they are chasing the dream of victorys past.

by TheSloth on Jan 7, 2012 1:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Interesting statement. I can see what you mean, Chris Lytle is a good example. He said as he retired that he was stopping for his family. I imagine it can put quite a strain on any relationship.

I watched a doco about female MMA fighters not long ago and one of the fighters basically chose her career over her boyfriend. I got the impression that he told her it was either going to be that he would be her coach or her boyfriend but not both.

MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.

by The Ruiner on Jan 7, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

All sports put a strain on marriages

Being a coach and a partner of a sportsperson is no easy task, even in long distance running Paula Radcliffe has had all sorts of public arguments with her husband/trainer over her career. Working with a partner must be hard enough, to do so in an environment as stressful as professional sport must make it that much more difficult.

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by David W-S on Jan 7, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt.

MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.

by The Ruiner on Jan 7, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

aside from kenflo, what other fighters are given

commentating roles in the ufc on a regular basis?

“One of the many things I love that the UFC does is they use a lot of fighters as commentators, "

by theblade on Jan 7, 2012 1:48 AM EST reply actions  

Mir often commentates, its just not broadcast on the UFC ppv….you can usually see him with a headser doing play by play at some events

by Adam Guillen Jr. on Jan 7, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Also I believe fighters such as Belfort often do commentary for other languages/countries.

by TheMuscleShark on Jan 7, 2012 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Patrick Cote, I believe as well

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by Pootwich on Jan 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Cote

Does the French Canadian broadcasts I believe. I know he was ring side at a couple of the shows in Mtl.

by Shadyone33 on Jan 7, 2012 3:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would prefer to watch with the option of no commentary

sometimes it get’s irritating

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 2:12 AM EST reply actions  

gets

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

you do have that option dude

called the remote

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Jan 7, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol

I have to admit that I’m becoming a lot more tempted to use the mute button for UFC shows.

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by David W-S on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

no i mean with the option of hearing everything else going on in the arena

I remember seeing footage from a different arena camera and it didn’t have GOldie and Joe overlay on top. It was so great to watch.

"My weight is not enough and strength is not enough either, so I have to take the fight by mastery." - Fedor Emelianenko

by tkotom on Jan 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Michael Schiavello to do some commentary for the ufc

"Every time I hear of this guy , I wonder how he was possible." - Joe DiMaggio

by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 7, 2012 2:40 AM EST reply actions  

This^^^^^^

Getting tired of Goldie. Not Rogan just Goldie. I watched the voice vs Joe Rogan and I think they would be a good team.

by emperorj on Jan 7, 2012 7:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the voice is awsome. the ufc needs to bring him on asap. if the ufc is going to expand, they will need

more than one commentating team. they should move goldie to the minor leagues and use rogan/micheal for big ppv’s.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It is definitely the same in all sports for top level athletes

If you are truly a professional, you must commit your whole life to that sport to become the best you can be. To give up that competitive buzz is one of the hardest things for an athlete to do. It’s the same in any sport for the top level athletes the world over.

Chael Sonnen is in the building Bitchezzz!

by MichaelD8 on Jan 7, 2012 4:48 AM EST reply actions  

name guys can still make big bucks in MMA for entertainment value

Most competitive sports will give you the boot when you start to stink… Puts a bigger risk on their long term health with incentives like this

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Jan 7, 2012 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

Same as in boxing and pro wrestling

Promoters are always tempted to use a past it name to promote their shows and make more money, regardless of the effect that continuing to compete has on their bodies. The last thing that a promoter should be doing is encouraging someone who should have retired to compete but of course they don’t actually give a damn about their talent, they only care about being able to use someone to make money. I just wish fans would take a stand and refuse to watch matches involving past it names because the only way to stop someone who has no business fighting from continuing to do so is to stop watching.

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by zackmiller091 on Apr 29, 2012 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Curious to see what Fedor will do when he retires

I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I've been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson's nuts? - Dan Henderson.

by elmojo on Jan 7, 2012 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

lol

MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.

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