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No Im not talking about MMA in the state of New York. This isn't the appropriate place for that. Go somewhere else with that crap you hippie. Im talking about legalizing not only Marijuana but legalizing all drugs. As a strong believer of individual rights and freedoms, I find it absurd that someone is considered a criminal for altering their own personal state of consciousness. That alone should be grounds for the colossal failure that is The War on Drugs to be brought to an immediate stoppage. But for some reason, here in the Land of the Free, we are told how we can experience our surrounding environment and life itself. I would love to hear where all of you Maniacs stand on the issue(except Jesse Holland, that guys a douche and I am probably going to ban him). Even if you are against the mere thought of a man with the Devil's Lettuce, let me hear your argument. I will only degrade you and talk shit about your opinion and tell you how wrong your opinion is only to a certain extent. After the jump I have added a few videos to help support my argument.

Star-divide

Graham Hancock on Marijuana (via AwakenedFromADream)

God I swear, I could just make out with Graham Hancock, right in the fucking mouth.(No Homo)

FIGHT! Life - Eddie Bravo: Weed (via fightmagazine)

Now no one can say this post does not relate to MMA.....its got Eddies Bravo in it.

Cops Say Legalize Drugs (via CopsSayLegalizeDrugs)

This is absolutely disgusting, yet brings hope to me. Please take the time to watch this bad boy.

P.S.

O Damn is a Fox news sheep. Someone please tell that guy to open his eyes to the corrupt shit that goes on behind the scenes. He is so clueless its not even funny. He had the nerve to tell me "Politicians are not liars, they are human and just make mistakes." Uhhhhh, THAT GUY!




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Is the War on Drugs and Prohibition against our constitutional rights and retarded.
Yes, learn from the past dumbasses. Plus I want to have control over my own consciousness
86 votes
Dont care. Im racist and came here to post about MMA
14 votes
No. If you use drugs, you will die and go to hell.
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I'd settle for legalization of marijuana

It’s less harmful than Advil.

Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.

by unambig on Jan 31, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions  

Decriminalize drugs and prostitution.

Less gang violence, less inmates, less lawyers, less wasted taxpayer money, and more protection for prostitutes.

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by Yan117 on Jan 31, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Awww, its so sweet seeing you care about your mothers safety like that.

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by ViolentMike on Jan 31, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My mom died in a car accident when I was 7. I wouldn't really know.

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by Yan117 on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike apoligze to this man right now you asshole.
Give him fellatio whilst your eyes are locked, only way to redeem your douchebaggery (although it did make for a super sweet burn)

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by Chorongota on Jan 31, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

A sweet burn?

She survived the impact but was burnt alive by the blaze. The last image I have of her is of a black charred corpse.

You guys are a nice bunch;

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by Yan117 on Jan 31, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i laughed

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Jan 31, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

what is called when you beat off onto your neighbors car ?

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

*it

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Envy.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

wax job

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

EXACTLY!

Less drugs made with Drano, more REAL criminals prosecuted, because now when someone robs someone that has drugs in their house they won’t be afraid to call the police. I have never smoked a damn thing in my life (including legal things) but it is SO DUMB that it is illegal, so dumb.

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by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 2, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Def!!!

All prescription and over the counter drugs are way worse than weed!!! Some of the laws in this country are fn nuts!!! Weed is also much less harmful than drinking and cigarettes!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Jan 31, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

All prescription and over the counter drugs are way worse than weed

and weed has many more remedies pound for pound. Big Pharma has no interest in getting this legalized, so that means the government doesnt either

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

True! Sad, but true!

It’s all about money! You know what’s relly fd up? If you get any sort of virus (flu, cold, stomach bug, etc…) there is nothing that they can do for you. There actually is, but nothing that can net them any money. there are plenty of all natural things that fight viruses! Lysine is great against viruses, unlike arginine that feeds them. Also, olive leaf extract, coconut oil and apple cider vinegar all fight against viruses. If you took that stuff, as I do, mostly every day, then you will NEVER get a virus! A Dr would never mention that to you though bc how will that help them? Funny how much press is out about the fn flu shot! The best part is that there is no proof that it even works. Ever see what’s in vaccines? Thermasol, which is mercury! Also there are about 13 other ingredients which include detergents, antifreeze and a whole bunch of other nasty shit! The last disease ever cured was poleo, now they just make vaccines so they can keep making money off of them! there are so many vaccines these days as opposed to years ago. It seems that every few years there are new ones, it’s nuts!!! Now we have the chicken pox vaccine, for real??? It’s even more fd up when they give so many to new borns, they have such a weak immune system that’s trying to develope. Gets me so pissed I could go on forever!!!

Staff shouldn't be aloud to ban members that have been around longer than they have! Especially just because they were butt hurt! Long live Kevin!!!

by MBOW on Feb 4, 2012 7:00 AM EST up reply actions  

you are talking out of your ass

if you knew what a virus was, then you would know that the only way to FIGHT a virus is to let your immune system defend against it. no amount of olive leaf extract, coconut oil, etc can prevent viruses that continue to evolve into different forms unrecognized by the body.

by raskol on Feb 4, 2012 7:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Have a drink and get laid, treehugger.

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by danago on Jan 31, 2012 6:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

thats not what theyd be trying to shove down your throat

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

HAHAAH!

That is a youngster’s future should they choose to experiment with drugs.

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by PrivateBox on Jan 31, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

But I betcha they had a great time!

I mean, have you every seen someone with neon orange hair not having a great time?

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by ViolentMike on Jan 31, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want to know how she lost her shoes...

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

That's why you need death squads to go along with legalization

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by unambig on Jan 31, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

trust fall

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by RolloTomasi on Feb 1, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

As real as that trash you call a comic strip

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.

by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

This would be preferable to Mots trash

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He should really just

Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.

by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Denial
An unconscious defense mechanism characterized by refusal to acknowledge painful realities, thoughts, or feelings.

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It's also a river in Egypt

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn't seen that cops vid before, good info on it.

I wonder if that 1.3% statisitic is true

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by Rolandando on Jan 31, 2012 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

While I am the biggest personal liberties supporter around, the welfare and protection of a society comes out ahead in the drug war.

Weed? Absolutely it should be legal, and here in CA, it is (essentially). Anyone for anyreason can go buy a card from a “doctor” and get weed legally prescribed to them. No problem with me. As my good buddy Kat once said “it’s just a plant, it just grow that way, and should you so happen to set it on fire, there are some effects.”

Everything else? Sorry, can’t happen.

Alcohol and tobacco are MUCH worse, but it’s too mainstream. Too much of a money maker. Too many power people use them. It’ll NEVER go away. They tried taking it from us once, look how that turned out much before the technological age.

Legality is a term for consequence. Anyone can choose to do anything, legal or not, enter at your own risk.

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by *Californication* on Jan 31, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly Cali.

From a philosophical point of view, individual people deserve the right to make choices for themselves. The government only has a right to limit those choices if the individual’s actions endanger someone else. This does not apply to marijuana, since the individual who chooses to use marijuana does so according to his or her own free will. This argument does not logically apply to marijuana because marijuana is far less dangerous than some drugs which are legal, such as alcohol and tobacco.

Marijuana is far less toxic and less addictive than alcohol and cigarettes, both which are legal.

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by Chorongota on Jan 31, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Weed turns alot of people into completely brain dead shells of their former selves

not everyone though

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Marijuana is one of,if not the, least toxic “drugs”, requiring thousands of times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This "thousands of times" is actually theoretical, since there has never been a recorded case of marijuana overdose.

There are hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths each year, yet there has never been a marijuana overdose death in history.

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by Chorongota on Jan 31, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I've tried many times

But always wake up in the morning in the middle of a pile of pizza boxes a chocolate wrappers

by Egads on Jan 31, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

like ricky surrounded by ravioli on trailer park boys

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

trailer park boys

funny as show

I'm being honest about this smoking weed separated me from the holy spirit... It came between me and Jesus. - Diego Sanchez

by Kronic on Feb 4, 2012 7:01 AM EST up reply actions  

This should also have a crime rate bar with people under the influence

Alcohol being WAY up there, its a shame marijuana gets such a bad rep, with alcohol being socially acceptable and even promoted.

by PotOfGold on Jan 31, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I got you homie

Comparisons between alcohol and marijuana with respect to sexual assault are very difficult. This is because it does not appear as if marijuana is a significant contributing factor. The best way to “prove” this is through observation that many organizations dedicated to studying and educating about assault do not list marijuana as a substance associated with incidents. But we can look at instance where alcohol played a major role in such incidents as date rape, assault, and battery.

Of the psychoactive substances examined, among individuals who were chronic partner abusers, the use of alcohol and cocaine was associated with significant increases in the daily likelihood of male-to-female physical aggression; cannabis and opiates were not significantly associated with an increased likelihood of male partner violence.

…the odds of any male-to-female physical aggression were more than 8 times (11 times) higher on days when men drank than on days of no alcohol consumption. The odds of severe male-to-female physical aggression were more than 11 times (11 times) higher on days of men’s drinking than on days of no drinking. Moreover, in both samples, over 60% of all episodes occurred within 2 hours of drinking by the male partner.

Source: Fals-Stewart , William, James Golden, Julie A. Schumacher. Journal of Addictive Behaviors. 28, pages 1555-1574. Intimate partner violence and substance use: A longitudinal day-to-day examination. Research Institute on Addictions, University at Buffalo, State University of New York

About 3 million violent crimes occur each year in which victims perceive the offender to have been drinking at the time of the offense.

Two-thirds of victims who suffered violence by an intimate (a current or former spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend) reported that alcohol had been a factor.

Among spouse victims, 3 out of 4 incidents were reported to have involved an offender who had been drinking.

Source: U.S. Department of Justice. Bureau of Justice Statistics. National Crime Victimization Survey 2002

Alcohol contributes to about 599,000 unintentional student injuries each year. No such statistics exist when it comes to student marijuana use.

Source: National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism Task Force on College Drinking, 2007

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by Chorongota on Jan 31, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. In short, I’m against legalising drugs other than marijuana.

I smoked immense amounts of weed when I was in high school and it actually got me through some difficult times. I found it more relaxing (although occasionally paranoia would kick in if I was by myself) than drinking and in spite of the fact it has negatively effected my short time memory (which I take full responsibility for considering the amount I smoked) if I had have gotten drunk as often as I smoked weed it would have resulted in far worse long term problems to my mental state and physical well being.

One thing though… occasionally marijuana can induce panic attacks (which feel like your heart is going to burst out of your chest) and psychotic symptoms. The panic attack thing has happened to a friend as well as myself at completely different times and it was one of the most terrifying things we had ever experienced. I guess it’s just a matter of if you’re wired the way that causes psychotic symptoms or panic attacks… a bit like being wired for alcoholism.

I should also say I was also an asshole the day following the day after I smoked weed… it caused me to be violent at times. It is no different to drinking really… if you turn into an asshole from doing any form of drug you really shouldn’t be doing it anyway. Slight tangent… I really hate it when people use drinking as an excuse to act like a prick. If you know it’s causing you to behave negatively (getting violent, cheating on your spouse, being verbally abusive towards people for no apparent reason) act like a decent human being and stop drinking FFS. The same goes for any drug really.

Also, for the paranoid thing… there would probably be a lot less paranoia in users if they didn’t have to worry about getting caught all the time.

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by The Ruiner on Jan 31, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

all drugs effect people differently

Some people are more prone to addiction than others

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course

But those people who can’t handle there shit shouldn’t make everyone else who can go to jail for it.

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by donkeypunch on Feb 1, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm completely pro locking up robbers

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by donkeypunch on Feb 1, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Too much money wasted in that. I would just chop off a finger. The 3rd strike gets your hand chopped off. And, yes, I am quite serious.

Robbers stealing because they are starving or their children are starving get a pass. They get sentenced to community service which will provide meals for them.*

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by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

A lot of loopholes in there.

How can you justify or even tell if one was simply trying to steal for a ‘justifiable’ cause?

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Stealing food for themselves or their children. Anything else is for material gain and is not justified.

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by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

This reminds me of that

“its only ok to abort if it was rape” situation.

I mean how do you even get around to proving that? Methinks this would cause more problems than it intends to eliminate.

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point on your part but its pretty easy to spot true hunger and starvation. Not as difficult as it seems.

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by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya there partner.

But based on what you wrote here and a couple comments below it seems to me you are rather mentally weak (going through a depression because of a breakup and getting with someone shortly thereafter etc), no offense.

I think it just comes down to mental fortitude, if you cant handle not smoking for a couple of weeks or even days, then this stuff is not for you and you should prolly find something more productive to do with your time. Same goes for alcohol, some people can handle it better than others, those that cant should refrain from getting intoxicated, whether it be with alcohol or marijuana.

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

You get the wrong impression about some things. The break up was after a 6 year relationship and the new relationship started 8 months later and has lasted for about 2 years so far, and we’re getting married. I’m not the kind of person to flit about and be with whoever might come along as soon as a break up occurs, which it seems you might think I am.

I am not mentally the strongest person, but getting through dark times has made me much stronger than a lot of people are. I would say I am as strong now as I have ever been.

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by The Ruiner on Feb 1, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I aint judging and I didnt mean to impose myself on you.

And I understand that some people get emotionally attached and when something bad happens and that relationship ends, someone might get “hurt”.

But, there is far more important things going on, and your energy would be much better diverted at doin something useful (going to drugs is not the healthy or good alternative) with yourself rather than moping around feeling sorry for yourself.

Keep your head up homeboy.

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep your head up homeboygirl.

Fixed.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I ever wanna see you say "home girl" again

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s cool.

MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.

by The Ruiner on Feb 1, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

The most important reason that marijuana should be legal is that it would save our government lots of money. In the United States, all levels of government (federal, state, and local authorities) participate in the “War on Drugs.” We currently spend billions of dollars every year to chase peaceful people who happen to like to get high.

These people get locked up in prison and the taxpayers have to foot the bill. We have to pay for food, housing, health care, attorney fees, court costs, and other expenses to lock these people up. This is extremely expensive! We could save billions of dollars every year as a nation if we stop wasting money locking people up for having marijuana. In addition, if marijuana were legal, the government would be able to collect taxes on it, and would have a lot more money to pay for effective drug education programs and other important causes.

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by Chorongota on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

Agree

We could save the billions spent annually on arresting/trying/incarcerating non-violent drug offenders and earn billions more by taxing weed/meth/heroin/cocaine, etc.

Personally, I have smoked weed less than 10 times in my life and have no desire to do so again even if it were legal. I have never done anything stronger. The people who want to use meth or heroin or whatever else are going to do so regardless of the legality, and those who don’t use it now will continue to not use it. I don’t think there will be a mass of people who suddenly become tweakers just because meth is legal.

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by P-Dub on Feb 1, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck 'em

if they have such low constitutions that they become addicts, then fuck them. Same with re-hab centers. They are created to make money, not rehabilitate people forever.

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

This is meth you idiot.

Lol this is you randy boy

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by Chorongota on Jan 31, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

im not a redkneck i dont drink and i'd kick that guys ass in under 10 seconds

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Chorongota on Jan 31, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man...bout pissed my pants

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by Jrandolph on Jan 31, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by Rolandando on Jan 31, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow wtf?? o.O

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by Chorongota on Jan 31, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I said not safe for life

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 8:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What did you do that for

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What did you click on a link randall posted for? lol

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by ViolentMike on Jan 31, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I have never used weed, nor plan to

But even I think it should be legal. It would deal a nasty blow to the pockets of drug cartels who thrive of the illegality of an apparently harmless, even helpful drug. I’d rather risk putting weed in my system to treat an injury or disease than putting some chemical whose name I can’t pronounce into it.

by amendamatrix on Jan 31, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Also

Smoking weed should be restricted to private property, not public areas, or restaurants. I dislike the smell of weed just as much as I hate the smell of cigarettes.

by amendamatrix on Jan 31, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course.

We’ll be discreet. Promise.

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by Yan117 on Jan 31, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

but it smells sooooo good

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by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I like my coffee like I like my women , bitter and murky .

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and black

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

vaporizers are a girl's best friend

I love my weed. I used to take clonopin for years, because it’s what the doctors recommended for my depression and anxiety. But I didn’t want to be on a medication, (unfortunately I still need an anti-depressant right now, but I hope to be off that one day.) Anyway I just stopped taking the clonopin and started smoking weed. Now I’m happier, healthier, gained 20 lbs, and have way more energy! I do use it too much though, I need to cut down…

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you sound like a train wreck ( no offense intended )

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Train wrecks are sexy.

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by darkside3744 on Jan 31, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I like my goods well and fucked up

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

depression/anxiety = trainwreck??

If you think suffering from depression and/or anxiety makes a person a train wreck, I guarantee you you know a whole lot of train wrecks.

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, off the top of my head I have known 5 people who have used medication to deal with depression at one time of their lives or another. Feeling hopeless is incredibly common. I was actually hospitalised for depression when my ex broke up with me. I got through it, and shortly after met my current partner. In between the break up and meeting him, I realised that it wasn’t the end of the world to not be with someone. In fact, I felt more free to be who I wanted to be because the last relationship stifled a lot of my personality.

So I guess I’m a bit of a train wreck too then. :P

It’s funny how depression crops up. Anything can cause it, in fact sometimes there simply is no cause if someone is really unfortunate. That’s when they bring in shock therapy… nasty stuff that can wreck someone’s memories but as a last resort it has worked for quite a few people.

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by The Ruiner on Jan 31, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope she's knows that I was purposefully was fucking with her out of boredom

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

* Everyone has problems

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If she’s been on the site for more than five minutes I’m sure she knows that.

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by The Ruiner on Jan 31, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with this:
Depression based on anything else is not a valid excuse to use drugs.

Call complete and utter bullshit on this:

Depression based on a chemical imbalance is a serious issue and deserves proper medical attention.

This is just people being weak and useless, wtf you have to be depressed for? Shit look around the world and youll see that you are doing better than 99% of the population.

People just need to grow balls and pucker up.

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

congrats Choro

you’ve won the retard award for the day

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit really?

But its so early…wank mardukas still hasnt even posted yet

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

I reserve the right to withdraw your nomination later in the day

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Has Mot posted a comic up? o.O

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

yes.....

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

It was a pretty senseless comment by choro. We can all make sweeping generalizations from time to time. I’ll sign for him. Just put him on probation.

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by Yan117 on Feb 1, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

+10000000000000000

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t know what you’re talking about, typical POT smoker.

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by danago on Feb 1, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Enlighten me then danny boy.

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Choro - I used to feel the same way until somebody schooled me on it. Chemical imbalance depression is the real deal, man.

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by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

^this

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Different strokes for different folks.

I understand there are some factors dealing with the reduced availability of neurotransmitters that may cause irregularities as far as brain function goes and all that bullshit, but I have seen far too many instances (on a personal level) where somebody’s life is going through the complete and shitter and not once did i see that person break down.

That person met his/hers problems head on and never once faltered.

Dont come to me and tell me you are depressed because you got dumped or whatever bullshit, grow some balls and stop feeling sorry for yourselves. Like I said there are about 5.6 billion people that would switch shoes with you in an instant.

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

that's fine

but there are people who have a legitimate mental condition, regardless of what is going on around them, those people need medicine, not to “feel better” but to fix the chemical inbalance in their bodies.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

those people need medicine

Keep swallowing what big corporate greedy vampires want you to believe.

The human mind is a powerful tool-use it.

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I have been trying for years to tap into the part that allows me to have x-ray vision for booty watching. I will let you know when I have succeeded as I will most likely be in jail.

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by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent!

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by OJR on Feb 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I watched my mother-in-law

not take her meds for two days because she ran out, and on the third day, she walked up and down the street with her German Shepard and a baseball bat, breaking all the neighbors windows, because they were looking at her funny. Some people NEED to be on medicine due to chemical imbalances.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Medication helps a lot of people to do even basic things like have regular showers, to be able to leave the house and to not go around in public talking to themselves or other people in jibberish.

Just because it doesn’t work for everyone doesn’t mean you should believe the whole ‘psychiatry is a myth’ thing.

Thinking that people should just buck up and try harder shows a serious lack of empathy and knowledge about mental illness.

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by The Ruiner on Feb 1, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

"The Chemistry of Joy"

I suppose I am too late and no one is reading this thread anymore. But in case anyone is, I just wanted to recommend the book “The Chemistry of Joy” by Dr. Henry Emmons. For anyone who has ever dealt with depression, and especially for those with a family history or chronic problems with it, this book is a must. Emmons is a psychiatrist in Minnesota who tired of simply prescribing medications to people, especially when they often didn’t help. He was motivated to find a more holistic approach to treating depression. The book gives you a firm understanding of what is happening in your brain while you’re depressed, and natural ways to prevent or treat depression. And if there is just one thing to come away from the book with, it’s- EXERCISE. Exercise and healthy diet. He also incorporates Ayruvedic medicine and Buddhist philosophy. It was a very helpful book for myself and others I know. I try to pass it on, because I think the knowledge presented in the book could prevent so much needless suffering when it comes to depression. So pass it on if you know of anyone who could use it…..

by - Ella on Feb 1, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The next time I am at the library I will see if there’s a copy available. Thanks for the info.

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by The Ruiner on Feb 2, 2012 6:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Serotonin and dopemine

wish we could just take those straight up

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Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If you are prone to specific mental disorder, smoking weed will trigger an episode. You don’t have an option.

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by danago on Feb 1, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Hi Cr8!

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

you should come out of hiding occasionally.

just sayin

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

for reals?

or just a guess?

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You never questioned the multiple personalities?

Tommy is the serious danago that posts on weekends and occasion nights.

Jesse is the uber-troll danago that throws out the one-liners to make people feel stupid for their comment.

Geno is the professional wrestling danago that is so over the top that it is almost unbelievable.

Cr8 is the sensitive danago that wants to help people.

Or I am making all of this up in an attempt to believe that I have not been outsmarted by a fat girl from British Columbia.

You decide.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

the first three yes

absolutely, but alas, in my lurking I do not recall a Cr8

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

ask Geno

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

But ask nicely or you'll be banned.

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by P-Dub on Feb 2, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

trainwrecks aren't always bad

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You may want to look into nootropics

You go out there and start acting like a terrorist, you're gonna get Osama Bin Laden'd

by Rolandando on Jan 31, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Nootropics sound a little sketchy

To be fair I’m just going off of a brief internet search for my opinion

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Admittedly conflicted on this one

I worked in Miami with addicts and homeless, and seeing what the hardcore stuff does is really depressing. However, none of them ever cared what was or was not legal.
I’m not sure what the right balance is, but I know we have it wrong. At a minimum, it should not be criminal for anyone to willingly put anything in their mouth or body. That just makes sense. While I STRONGLY disagree with most of the crap people do put in their body, that’s on them.
While were at it, no seatbelt laws, or helmet laws either please

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by Jrandolph on Jan 31, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

the reasoning with the seatbelt laws is that alot of the time the state ends up footing the bill when someone gets injured in a wreck

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The state should not pay for that ever.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya

But I agree with Ulf. I think most seatbelt and helmet laws are simply to comply with the fed mandates in order to receive fed funding.
I’m kinda being sacrastic, I don’t think seatbelt laws are going to fuel a revolution or anything, and not wearing one is pretty stupid, but when you figure all the other things that progressives will defend using the mantra that “it’s my body, let me do what I want”, seems like wearing a seatbelt or helmet should be a choice as well

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by Jrandolph on Feb 1, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i think that helmets should be worn, when in low speed residential areas, because they may actually help in that scenario

but at high speeds on a highway, probably won’t make much of a difference. Ultimately it should be at the rider’s discretion though

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Weed should be legal the rest of the shit nope

If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!

by Khaos_Warrior on Jan 31, 2012 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

personal use should be decriminalized

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what will end up killing me

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 31, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Ahmen brother.

Nothing like a good ol dip and a straight right to your girls mouth

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by PrivateBox on Feb 1, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

i've been laid plenty with a dip in

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

gotta love those high hip jeans

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by Jrandolph on Feb 1, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Those are rad as a motherfucker.

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by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Be careful what you wish for....

If pot were ever legalized, it would be 100% controlled by the government, which means you’d be paying out the ass for lower quality stuff, it would still be illegal for anyone under 21, and they would not allow you to grow your own.

As for harder drugs, anyone for the legalization of drugs like crack and heroin have probably never met anyone who has had their lives destroyed by it. Making availability of those drugs even easier will only lead to bad things.

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by TFK on Feb 1, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

The crack/heroin crowd will use the crack and heroin whether it is legal or not. Might as well decriminalize it and put some of that cash toward our staggering national debt rather than into some gang-banger’s pocket.

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by P-Dub on Feb 1, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The ones that already use....

…sure, they will continue to use. But the ones who aren’t using yet will be more likely to start if those drugs are made more easily available.

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by TFK on Feb 1, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

availability does not create more addicts

ST

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

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by TFK on Feb 1, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He is right.

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by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Opinions…..

ST

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

are like assholes…

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by ViolentMike on Feb 1, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I have never licked an opinion

what does it taste like?

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

+1

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 1, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

corned beef

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by ViolentMike on Feb 1, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

corned hole

Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.

by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

did you try the coffee additive?

thoughts?

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually haven't yet.

Haven’t had a coffee in a few days.

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by ViolentMike on Feb 1, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

they would not allow you to grow your own

Why are you allowed to grow tobacco? (I have done it)
Why are you allowed to brew your own beer?
Distill your own alcohol?

It is the selling portion that is illegal in every case, but only if you are not properly licensed and paying the appropriate taxes.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Distill your own alcohol?

really?

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wrong

That is illegal under ATF.

There are certain states that expressly allow it though (Missouri was one I found quickly), and it is legal to own a one gallon still if you are never caught distilling alochol.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Moving to Missouri

“No person at least twenty-one years of age shall be required to obtain a license to manufacture intoxicating liquor, as defined in section 311.020, for personal or family use. The aggregate amount of intoxicating liquor manufactured per household shall not exceed two hundred gallons per calendar year if there are two or more persons over the age of twenty-one years in such household, or one hundred gallons per calendar year if there is only one person over the age of twenty-one years in such household. (see References 4) "

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

nice!

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That is more than a half gallon a day for consumption!!!

MISSOURI, FUCK YEAH!!

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

geezus..why don't you put the fucked up people on drugs in rehab and work camp..

not fucking jail that costs more per person a year than the average poor person even makes in a year to keep em in there..it’s a totally fucked up scenario..work on fixing the problem..not tucking them away and costing sooo much money to the tax payers etc etc..

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

rehab is only a way to make money

you should have realized that when Dr Drew got his own reality show about his “re-hab” clinic.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Truth.

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by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

that guy is a disgrace to legitimate doctors everywhere.

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by ShivanTiger on Feb 1, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah..

well ok..a drug free work camp..lol..
my brother in law worked in a detox clinic for 20 years…there is a 3% recovery rate for heroin addicts..ugh..that is so fucking depressing.. and the shit that he has seen..my god!! they occasionally pulled gnarled out bums off the street to see if they could do anything with em…let’s just say they had to soak a pair of jeans off because the guy’s sores and shit had become one with the denim.. so nasty…
and the fucking cops once took this guy to them and said he was drunk and had to sober up there…well…the guy had suffered a massive fucking head wound and slurred and could not walk right like a drunk..the back of his head was squishy for christ sakes..he fucking died there..so fucked up!
not to mention the “personal purse” stories.. how the fuck does a bitch get 5 uncapped needles up her pussy??

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, that is horrible. There are some jobs that it takes an immense amount of emotional fortitude to deal with.

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by The Ruiner on Feb 1, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been hooked on heroin , meth , oxy , every other pill you could think up and I’d say that the numbers are misleading . I bet 97 % of addicts relapse after their first go around but when it’s all said and done everyone either dies or gets clean I don’t know alot of oldtimers that are still shootin up

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

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by ViolentMike on Feb 1, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I wouldn't mind if it happened

although I understand very little. Never done it, or any other hard drug. Don’t drink anymore, don’t drink coffee or tea, (very little caffeine ever), never smoked, rarely take medicine etc..

Not really qualified to comment!

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 1, 2012 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t drink anymore, don’t drink coffee or tea, (very little caffeine ever), never smoked, rarely take medicine etc..

Aren’t you mature.

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by danago on Feb 1, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about that Dan

Probably a brain dysfunction with a dose of social anxiety ;)

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 1, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't feel bad. I have not done a lot of stuff either and I am proud of it. As long as you don't judge others, you are fine.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I recently got into a big thing with a woman on twitter

She said that supporting the legalization of weed was like supporting murder and rape. So I said she drinks alcohol, which is a far more damaging drug than weed, only she’s lucky enough it happens to be legal. She didn’t like that. Not one little bit.

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

well

people abuse the fuck out of pharmaceutical drugs..and look down their noses at weed..and i find that so wrong…just because a doctor gave em to you does not make em good for you or right..prescription drugs cause more harm than good

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I've known far too many outstanding human beings who smoke weed to ever dare criticizing someone who uses it, too

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i feel ya..

i drink decaf coffee on occasion.. i do like black tea that does have caffeine… i don’t drink really….and i rarely take medicine either…BUT i am a stoner…sigh…cigarettes are nasty though..i just got exposed to weed really young…it kept me from drinking or doing other harder drugs…so i don’t believe it’s a gateway drug like people think…hell i get anxiety attacks from weed occasionally too…i am just too wimpy for drugs or alcohol.. it has kept me younger and healthier than the people around me!

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

its crazy how much the early part of your life can change what happens in the future

I was never exposed to anything, and my mom probably would have burned all my worldly possessions and disowned me if I went near the stuff. Probably scared me enough when I was young, and now I’m just older and lazy..

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 1, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

love me some sara
it has kept me younger and healthier than the people around me

I still get carded and Im in my damn thirties, while almost everyone I know my age looks fucking old as dirt. Been smoking weed since I was 13

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been on a break from pot for about a year

I’ve done shrooms a few times, smoked hash a handful of times. Smoked cigarettes for 3 years. Don’t drink alcohol anymore either. Coffee and tea regularly.

That’s about it I guess. I don’t take medicine either and never go to the doctor.

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

so are you guys pro-decriminalization?

I guess I find it hard to see both sides of the argument. It seems like most people I know are pro, and lots of research points to it being quite safe.

What would the nay-sayers counter with?

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Feb 1, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Legalize mairjuana for sure

And decriminalize all other drugs. Save the taxpayers billions every year.

Having said that, it’s true that legalizing and regulating marijuana could dilute the potency, especially if Big Pharma takes over for government distribution. So, decriminalizing it altogether and leaving it sort of nebulous like abortion might be for the best.

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The nay-sayers might focus on panic attacks and weed bringing on psychotic symptoms in certain people.

MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.

by The Ruiner on Feb 1, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Then we counter them with

calling bullshit. Psychotic symptoms?? You might kill a whole box of oreos, thats about it. I think even the munchies are bullshit. I’m prepping for a physique competition and never fill the urge to pound away bad food.

Don't make me swing on you bro

by PrivateBox on Feb 1, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I always got the munchies something fierce.

But I have a sweet tooth to begin with, so I’m sure that just exacerbates it.

Remember, nothing is out of reach. Develop a plan, work the process, and achieve your goals. Begin, now!

by Silver-Fox on Feb 2, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

It just makes EVERYTHING better, so something you like is SUPER awesome

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

you're a moron

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 4, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

you're a premature ejaculator

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 4, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

i have been drunk possible a dozen times in my entire life..i really don’t like alcohol..i am not shy ..i don’t need to drop the thin vale of restraint i already posses.

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Alcohol doesn't work well for me

When I drink too much I usually do things I regret.

Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.

by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet your mouth tastes like you made some horrible decisions last nite amirite?

Show no mercy; for you shall receive none

by Chorongota on Feb 1, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, I haven't had a drink in months

But there’s always a possibility on Friday

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i think it's insane

to put people in jail for weed..i think that hard drugs should be illegal..but that there should be more help available for people to try and get off the meth and coke and all the crappy drugs..but..even that doesn’t work too well…
best hope is to educate the hell out of the youth and encourage them to avoid making bad mistakes like getting into drugs…experiment..try some shrooms of something that will just make you giggle..but let them know..no matter how smart they are..how strong they are…hard drugs will fuck you over and leave you an empty shell..or dead!

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

The ONE and ONLY thing keeping herb illegal is CORPORATE GREED

Nobody is even arguing about how safe marijuana is anymore. It’s been proven time and time again.

The pharmaceutical companies (who have the gov’t in their pocket) will NEVER allow this natural herb to be legal, as they would lose BILLIONS of dollars in revenue.

Plain and simple.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

That doesn't make sense to me

I would imagine Big Pharma could make a killing making marijuana for sale in pharmacies.

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Marijuana cannot be patented and can be grown by the people.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn't sound right to me

Ibuprofen is sold generically, but the patent Advil is sold at a marked up price. Marijuana could be sold in patented form no problem.

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

hell

even ibuprofen and all that shit used wrong (or too much which is what everyone does) fucks up your liver and kidneys..

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

When I had back problems,

I had never used pharmaceutical drugs in any shape or form up until that point, not even aspirin. Advil saved my life. I was at a point where I couldn’t even put fuckin socks on. I used Advil for 18 months or so and without it, I would have killed myself. Amazingly, that was 6 years ago I feel like a finely tuned athlete once more today (almost).

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by Yan117 on Feb 1, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yan..

i feel you ..i have taken ibuprofen for back pain..it saves the day..i am not anti that stuff..it just works and also works you over a bit…just as smoking weed fucks your lungs up..ya pick your poisons as it were..some peeps can handle em better..like junkies that live to be 80..and the 45 year old soccer dad who was totally clean and fit dropping dead from a heart attack..

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

My comment was not in opposition to your views.

I was just offering a personal testimony to give you one more perspective on the matter. I had what I thought were strong principles but all of it went out the window when I found myself completely incapacitated and in agonizing pain. We should advocate a drug-free lifestyle as much as possible but when fatality strikes, whatever it’s nature, we need that crap they make in their labs.

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by Yan117 on Feb 1, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

a plant CANNOT be patented

Try to get one.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, but you create a product from that plant and then sell it at a marked up value

A tomato is a tomato but you can take it and make a product from it and sell it.

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what they have done

They fuck with the genetics, and create something that isn’t effective. People try it, and then ask: “Why cant I just have the real stuff, because it works so much better”?

see Marinol, Sativex

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess it would be simpler to decriminalize and let people just grow their own plants

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

See

and then they don’t make any money.

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

They make money in the seeds.

Which is what happened in the gardening industry.

They create hybrids that grow true, from their seeds, but will not propogate from the seeds of the fruit, essentially ensuring that you need to buy seeds every year from them to get the desired product.

The good news is that MJ is an open-polinated plant meaning the starins that are in existance now will breed true. If leagalized, I give it 10 years until hybrids dominate the marketplace. They already exist.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

A hybrid plant most certainly can be patented.

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/plant/

I see it all the time in my garden magazines. There has been a boom in new strains of gooseberries in the last few years. Most large purchases, 100 or mor plants, require a signed non-propogation waiver.

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. - Thomas Jefferson

by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure the same rules apply to marijuana

Cross breeding of different strains has occured for decades. If I cross Purple Kush with OG Kush, I cannot then patent “Purple OG Kush”

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

There are rules to determine new strains, but yes, you could

provided MJ was legal.

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. - Thomas Jefferson

by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmmm

they would want to make you thc pills that are so completely not natural in any way for you to buy from them…lol
look..they try to make comfrey, echinacea or any natural plant that helps you illegal so that they can turn around and sell you shit that is nothing like the natural thing and stop you form using things that can heal you

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They push "Sativex" which is a synthetic version of marijuana

So they are argeeing with the fact that it has a use in the medical field, but only through fucking with the original genetics are they able to patent it.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i've eaten those little t.h.c. balloons, i almost passed out into a burrito

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife's friend has cancer and she gets medicinal marijuana

Jealous

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by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer, no weed and no cancer.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone can get it if they want

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by randallhumpfreeze on Feb 1, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The first time I researched comfrey 8 or so years ago

most web reports listed it as poisonous and carcinogenic. Then the old timers started speaking up, lol, and now comfrey is sold in seed form, plant form, different strains, etc.

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by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

it is great for sprains

you can steam the leaves and apply them to like a sprained ankle ..or bad bruises.. i knew this hippie freak who made a comfrey cast for his broken arm..lol made it harden like a plaster cast..lol

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

And that lying sack of shit Obama promised not to go after individual states where medicinal marijuana is legal

It’s still illegal under Federal law, and what happened? The Feds still moved in and arrrested compassion centres under Federal law.

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Feb 1, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Obama is a Republican in disguise.

He does things even Bush would never have dreamed of doing (NDAA, SOPA, legalizing torture)

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Feb 1, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Obama is a politician Republican in disguise.

Fixed.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Feb 1, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't believe a politician is intrinsically bad.

Maybe most politicians become bad as they proceed in their career but History has seen plenty of remarkable leaders who have done great things for their people and who refused to be corrupted. There is a justified reason to be cynical in our day and age and specifically in the money driven political system in the USA but the profession itself remains a noble one.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Feb 1, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

How many have you seen since we abandoned the Gold Standard?

free money corrupts everyone.

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. - Thomas Jefferson

by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You'd be absolutely right

if your opinion weren’t so absolute. The system may be completely flawed but not human nature. You guys left the candy store open without protection in your money driven lobbying political system. Of course crooks will be attracted. There are much more good people then there are bad ones. The bad guys just happen to be much more organized, owning the legislative, executive, and judiciary branches, and all. They can still be opposed. Change campaign financing laws and put the good guys back in charge.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Feb 1, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand your first part

because I agree with you.

Maybe my act on here makes it seem like I am completely anti-govt, but I am not. I am for fair gov’t that leaves me the f alone. I am also for paying my fair share of taxes, not more than the current Repub front runner who paid less of a percentage of his $22mm income in 2010 to taxes than my very-middle class family did.

As far as absolutes…I have even been swayed by your GSP talk these days. I can’t be completely narrw minded, eh?

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. - Thomas Jefferson

by Ulf Murphy on Feb 1, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

If all politicians were corrupted,

you wouldn’t be part of the Republican Party. There are always a few good men and women fighting the good fight. It would be unfair to categorize them as crooks just because so many others sold out.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Feb 2, 2012 6:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The problem is that the character traits (flaws) required to advance to the highest levels of our American political machine are diametrically opposed to the ideas of doing what is best for others, rather than oneself and selected cronies; and helping others who can’t help themselves. Therefore we end up with a bunch of selfish, corrupt bastards who need to be thrown or physically dragged out of office.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Feb 2, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Legalizing marijuana and legalizing hard drugs are two completely different things.

Marijuana in massaxhusetts is currently decriminalized(under an ounce), I agree with that route.

However, legalizing other drugs like heroin or meth is utter madness. Crazy. Can’t and won’t happen. I don’t have time to dive into this right now but I thought I should share my opinion on this subject.

by MMA Boss on Feb 1, 2012 5:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

take your kid on a stroll through the worst street you can find...

show them the junkies and meth heads and crack heads and how fucked up they look and are..and tell em that’s where you end up it you touch that stuff..(ok.. drive through that area…you really don’t want to walk around there..lol)

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

and i did not mean the herb..

i meant if you touch the hard drugs..

by sarah- on Feb 1, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Downtown motherfucking eastside

Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.

by unambig on Feb 1, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Westside downtown San Anto

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

please don't legalize heroin.

And choro, you’re an ass. I hope your depression comments were just bored trolling because that’s the most ignorant shit eva!

I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...

by DetroitDrew1980 on Feb 1, 2012 8:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I was hoping this was referring to weed

It’s ridiculous that it isn’t legalized yet.

by budgellism on Feb 1, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

I'm in love worth Mary Jane!

I smoke two joints in the morning
I smoke two joints at night
I smoke two joints in the afternoon
It makes me feel alright

by wyldeman99 on Feb 2, 2012 12:08 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

If it dont grow out the ground, dont keep it around

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law

Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

No one understands what it means but its provocative, gets the people going.

by Str8_right on Feb 3, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  


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