UFC 145: Jon Jones vs Rashad Evans last stop before Rematchville for 'Bones'
It was the final hurdle in an exhausting journey, but Rashad Evans' win over Phil Davis Saturday night (Jan. 28, 2012) at the United Center in Chicago, Ill., secured him a chance to regain the light heavyweight title.
The long-elusive opportunity has been a quest for Evans, with only slightly less chapters than a Dostoyevsky novel. First slotted to take on Mauricio Rua, which was delayed by Shogun's knee injury, Evans subsequently was injured with then-teammate Jon Jones filling in for him against Rua last March. Then, after winning the title in a brutal performance over Rua, Jones claimed a hand injury prevented him from fighting Evans, and he followed it by defending against Quinton Jackson instead.
This one's been cooking in the pot for while, folks, and when it's served up April 21, 2012, as the main event in UFC 145 at the Philips Arena in Atlanta, Ga., it will be ready to serve.
But the interesting subplot is that if Jones wins, it essentially cleans out the top-tier run of potential light heavyweight opponents for him, outside of the seemingly ageless Dan Henderson.
Jones hasn't just beaten Rua, Jackson and Lyoto Machida, but essentially dominated and destroyed them so much that it's going to be tough to promote more than one rematch. Why? Because Jones is improving with each fight, while all of these guys are either in their prime or merely getting old.
In a second go-round with any three of them, I'm predicting he beats them even easier, if that's possible. I feel confident saying this only because I predicted Jones in three over Rua and in a fourth-round submission over Jackson. I have been high on him for a while, because he's doing things that simply weren't done before, with a kind of easy mastery that only the truly great ones have.
And the scary thing is he's probably three-to-four years away from his physical prime. That is plain scary.
I don't expect Evans to give him much of a test, and that's why you have to wonder what the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) and fans will want from Jones. Are they going to take him down a series of increasingly hard-to-sell rematches? He's already aced a vexing series of light heavyweight tests, and his 2011 -- with four wins over top-five opponents -- and a submission of then-undefeated Ryan Bader, was the single-greatest calendar year showing in the history of the sport (Rua's epic tear through Pride in 2005 runs a close second).
Evans-Jones is a logical next fight. The two have legitimate bad blood with one another, and it's nicely placed in Atlanta, a city that prides itself as a showpiece of African American achievement. But I can't help but think that this is little more than a likely checkmark on Bones' hit-list until people start wondering when he'll move up against the big boys. Because while Evans did enough to win against Davis, there wasn't anything new he showed that suggested he'll have the striking to trouble Jones, or the kind of high-level takedowns he'll need to take the fight down to the mat.
And while I'll always hold Henderson up as one of the all-time greats, he's going to have a really tough time against Jones, too. After Hendo's had his crack, what's left?
But being champion also means performing at a consistent level that drives people to suggest future fights aren't competitive, and Bones will have to prove he can stay focused. It's enough to carry me through to UFC 145, but after this fight, my prediction is that people start openly asking when he moves up.
A tour through Rematchville will only be exciting for so long.
Jason Probst can be reached at www.twitter.com/jasonprobst or at jason@jasonprobst.com
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Sadly none of his opponents deserve a rematch. Maybe give him bonnar for kicks since that fight went to the end. But if bones destroys rashad then Hendo I’d want to see him stay at lhw and if he still reigns as champ for another 2 to 3 years then I’d be wanting to see him at hw
by zesotheclown on Jan 29, 2012 11:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jones has come a long way since that fight.
Bones would finish Bonnar within 2 rounds now. Go back and watch that fight. Jones was skinnier and his striking wasn’t nearly as good. Plus he gassed by the 3rd round. Bonnar will never come close to a title shot though, enough with the jokes. 2011 Jones >>>> 09 Jones.
I know you were joking but I’ve really heard people say stupid shit like “Shogun got finished by Jones but Bonnar survived 3 rounds” not realizing that fighters do in fact get better with time and Jones has improved faster than anyone in such a short time. Remember his fight before Bonnar? Jones looked so goofy in that fight and that guy survived as well. Maybe he still could huh? lol
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I was being dumb but i don’t want to see him rematch guys he dominated and i don’t think he should move up yet
by zesotheclown on Jan 30, 2012 2:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If and when he does, I'd love to see him smash Fedor as a first HW fight.
It's all about the entertainment.
The only problem with that
Fedor isn’t close to deserving a Bones match right now. Maybe 3 years ago Fedor.
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that is just about as gay as anderson not moving up to 205
Mindlessly plodding through title defenses against out matched opponents is a fucking waste
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
At least Silva did prove himself at an above weight unlike GSPee.
Let’s not pretend like a rematch with Chael will be easily “out matched” as you said.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
We'll have to wait and see won't we ?
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Well if Silva beats Chael and maybe Bisping or Munoz
and Jones beats Hendo and Shad then I could see them making that fight cause who really would be left for either that’s credible? Either way, at least Silva has not only competed at 205 but destroyed which is more than GSP is willing to do at MW. I think he knows what would happen against those bigger guys.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Silva isn't getting any younger
Bones vs silva has to happen near the beginning of 2013
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. That's about when it will be if all that shit I said does happen.
2 more fights for each. Beginning of 2013 sounds about right. Ya see randall, things are much better for you when you discuss MMA here instead of being a smart ass.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
I was going to say say the same about you
You do a good impersonation of a lonely queer though. I think after Chael Andy should wait for Bones to beat Hendo setting up the biggest fight in UFC history .
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not the one who's sore from getting worked like a part time job every time we talk.
Pretending to be funny with that “lonely queer” failed joke just shows that you’re still trying to get one hit on me. Stick to the topic about Andy and Jones cause I don’t want to crack on you so bad that everyone in here starts to pass you around like the only lighter at a crack house again. Don’t try to always act like other guys are gay just because you have the reputation of someone that’s fucked more black guys then FEMA.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Now that, that zit was popped once again back to the topic!
As I was saying before I was rudely interrupted. lol I’ve never been sold on Rashad’s punching power. He does have power. Don’t get me wrong but I don’t think it’s as good as people make it out to be jsut because of that Liddell KO. Plus, even if Rashad takes Jones down. What’s he gonna do? His GnP is weak. You can see that there’s no steam on his punches when he’s on top. Jones on the other hand… the best GnP in the game imo.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
WOW.........................Bones is just too strong
Only way he’ll get beat at 205 is if someone ko’s him standing and his reach makes that almost impossible so good luck getting your ass kicked rashad
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Almost impossible like when machida had no problem getting on his wingspan and would've made it more of a fight
Had he got away from the cage at the end of the 2nd
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by wooly shambler on Jan 30, 2012 1:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
got away from the cage ?
there is no way machida was going to do anything in that fight except get killed . if it didn’t happen in the 2nd it would have happened in rounds 3,4, or 5 .
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Killed like the first round and 3 minutes of the 2nd
??
Did you watch the fight?
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by wooly shambler on Jan 30, 2012 1:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I watched it
Machida didn’t impress me at all , he landed a few shots but nothing to write home about . Then he got brutalized the first time they were in close .
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
I'd like to have seen
That fight continue into the later rounds taking Machida’s endurance into consideration. But it wasn’t the usual Machida fighting JBJ I saw a bit of Anderson in the mix. Remember, Anderson trained a bit with Lyoto in that camp and showed him a few tips. Atleast that’s what Lyoto claims. Just sayin’ though lol.
The way Jon didn't know what to do in the 1st was extremely impressive
Machida looked a little over zealous in the second but I see that jons aura still has you smitten
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by wooly shambler on Jan 30, 2012 1:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I only remember Machida landing maybe 4 punches the whole fight
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
Jon landed jack shit
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by wooly shambler on Jan 30, 2012 1:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Stop it wooly...
You know that’s untrue…he landed a few leg kicks ……………………………cricket……
No but in all honesty, Machida hit him cleanly like three times in the entire fight…Jones hits him before the takedown, when Rogan screams and makes a big deal about it…then he elbows him twice on the ground, then he drops him with a superman punch….giving you a total of 4 strikes to 3, lol Wow, that’s a competitive fight!!!
Jon hit him with an elbow and a death choke
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
Randall can you explain your name please ?
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by wooly shambler on Jan 30, 2012 2:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
it's my real last name
Humphries
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
He is so young. So he can reign at 205 until no one is left then switch weight. I would like to see Machida fight him again if Machida can get more wins under his belt. (yes I am a Machida fan boy). But Machida did make Jones look human for a round.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 30, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Evans is going to beat Jones and destroy the hype, there is a reason why Bones has been ducking him everytime he gets a chance. The only rematchville that’s going to happen is Evans facing off against guys like Rampage and Machida again.
"I don't walk around looking at cameras telling people that I am the best fighter in the world to hear myself talk. I say it for the same reason they put warnings on packages of cigarettes, because fighting Chael Sonnen may be hazardous to one's health."-Chael Sonnen
What fights have you been watching?
Rashad couldn’t even destroy Phil fucking Davis. He was undefeated cause he hadn’t fought anybody yet. Lil Nog was his biggest victory. In fact, the only person Rashad has “destroyed” in years was Tito! lol Who are you kidding? Don’t let your hating ways blind you. Jones has destroyed better better fighters so his hype is already proven.
I’m guessing your the type of hater that will make bullshit excuses after Jones finishes Rashad and Hendo as well huh?
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
If Jones cleans out the division and Silva defeats Chael again there's only one obvious conclusion
Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.
But if that happens what do they do after that?
Now, count up your crimes!
by Cyclonejoker on Jan 30, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
STOP BEING A CUNT CYCLONE
Silva vs Bones must happen it is the will of the gods
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
You are an annoying little shit.
I hope it happens too.
Now, count up your crimes!
by Cyclonejoker on Jan 30, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
stop being a negative nancy
Instead of pointing out the all the negatives be like me and bring it up every time it applies . Silva is the only man that can stop Bones .
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
i worded that wrong , fuck it
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
He's right though...
You are an annoying little shit. lol I’ll take it easy on you time though until you say something too stupid that I’m gonna make you eat again. :)
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
I see you're still up to your gay little tricks as well
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Let's be honest... if either of us was taking it in the ass it was def you!
Like I said, watch it… didn’t go good for you last time. lol
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
You're back on the dope hank you might be able to fool your mom but you can't fool me
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Why don't you just steal Davis' line that he stole from Chappelle show and say
“cocaine is a hell of a drug”. Also, the only fool here is you. Everybody was laughing at you when you when I last clowned on you. You’d have to be on drugs to not see that. Hell, you’re already getting owned in here by others so don’t pretend to be that guy who denies everything that others clearly see. I hammered you up and down every post and it was fun. Don’t play the “I’m gonna pretend it didn’t happen” role. You probably lost sleep over it. lol I said I was gonna be nice but if you’re gonna start to lie again and deny that things didn’t happen that way then I’ll prove it by embarrassing you right here again. Make it easier on yourself.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Thank's for the essay on your gay internet beef
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
and thanks for proving my point with your weak replies that
I said you weren’t gonna win with. Why dont’ you repeat the word gay over and over instead of coming up with better lines that any 3rd grader could think of. I told you I was gonna play nice but YOU were the loser who couldn’t let this so called “beef” go. I have no beef, I hold no grudges… guess the turd on the losing end has a harder time of letting shit go huh?
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#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
you accidentally responded to the wrong person choro
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
If you're talking about him responding to me than you're damn right cause you're the only one getting railed in here.
He knows what that’s like though don’t you Chron? ;) Fruity bastard. “Chron shit’s condoms daily” should be his new screen name after I handled him.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
OMG you two are like a bunch of little girls!
Who really cares who won the battle of words behind a fn keyboard??? Every fn thread you two are going at it! Get a room already!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
ahhhhhh no wait shit i just dissed myself i think
fuck my life
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
Dumbass!
Always a bridesmaid, never a bride huh randall. Man puffed up once Chron replied. You both got took. Go back to changing the subject like you did before to avoid further slaughtering.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
Some who I also already destroyed has tried that bitch.
Way to be original and I’ll say the same thing to you as I did with him… if either of us was taking it in the ass it was def you. Don’t kid yourself.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
you're the only one talking about fucking asses
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
yet you're the one always talking about fags and being gay
don’t pretend you have a shot just cause Chron replied… he’s also bitter that I dogged him out. noticed how clever his reply was too. LOL
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just gonna sit back and watch
while your illness plays itself out
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
I'm "ill" now? Weak...
I’m still laughin at how quick your bitch ass went back to talking about MMA with me after I buried you… again. Then when Chron’s bitch ass posted the clever “fag” reply cause I buried him before as well you all of a sudden had balls. That’s cute!
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
your the turd that won't flush , mr hanky
but i’m cool with you when you’re not in blog stalker mode
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Don't act brave now that some1 else I beat is helping like you somehow have a chance. LMAO
Go back to talking about MMA like the bitch I made you out to be. Pretend it didn’t happen just like when people used to push you down on the play ground. lol I bet you get beer courage like a mother fucker!
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
that reply was before choro corroborated how much of a sack of shit you are
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
No it wasn't. I saw when you posted it pussy and...
you went back to talking about MMA with your other replies. You bitched out! lol Let’s not pretend you ever had a shot anyway.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Wowwwww, I just read this all.
Take each others emails and don’t run a thread up in comment count. You guys are two little bitches. Shut the fuck up, hug it out, suck each others cock more, watch your comment count go up and then Dutch rudder each other then follow that up with arguing to each other about if it’s gay or not. Fuckin goofs.
Sig Bet:
3-2, Weidman over Maia - OilCheck
Condit over Diaz - Shivan"Diesel"Tiger
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 30, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
Opps I didn't mean to start all that, I was just annoyed and Rand kinda caught me at a bad time.
Now, count up your crimes!
by Cyclonejoker on Jan 30, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Why in the world would the UFC want to risk
the reputation of its two unbeatable fighters at 185 and 205? If they know Silva is quitting soon (which he likely is), then I can see the UFC wanting to feed him to Jones. There’s a reason super fights don’t happen much—-it’s bad for business.
"Speaks well of a man to need a little something in this world. I wouldn't trust a man who could git through it cold sober."
--Harry Crews
Agree.
Plus Bones is just way to big and only getting bigger. Jones is entering his prime as where silva is out of his. Anderson has nothing left to prove! Wish GSP would have moved up bc they both have been so dominate for such a long time now. I truly believe that Silva scared him a bit.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Anyone kno a price range on tickets for this event
by Cerrone's sombrero on Jan 30, 2012 12:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hope no injuries occur
I also am looking forward to Che vs Rory. If JBJ wins this in good fashion, he’s going to shut a lot of haters up.
Evans is no push over
He’s got the power to test Bone’s chin, Jones will have to use his reach and pick his shots carefully. I was very impressed with Evans’ wrestling vs Davis, I think he has the upper hand if the fight goes to the mat
by Tommy Shenanigans on Jan 30, 2012 12:56 AM EST reply actions
I'm not sold on Rashad's power.
He caught Chuck with the perfect punch… well timed and placed that could have Ko’d anyone imo but who else has he really hurt with his striking? Also, if Rashad does somehow take him down… who has he every hurt with his GnP besides Forrest who can take a punch? Just my thoughts.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that Bones is way too strong
As soon as they clinch he’ll over power him and then finish with brutal g n p
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
Read what I just wrote all the way at the bottom but
To stay on this subject. I agree, the only way Rashad is going to win is if he lands flush. Other than that, JBJ will destroy his face in the clinch, then the rest of it with some G n P. He’s just genetically superior, it’s like spider man vs super man.
No amount of training can prepare
You for someone like JBJ, and I’m not even really a fan. Kinda tired of seeing his face on every poster.
Yeah, him and Silva are just those guys that no training partner can emulate.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 30, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
But to all the people who are doubting JBJ, just look at what he’s done to the fighters Rashad couldn’t even finish, let alone got destroyed by one of them. I’ll shut up now :D
I see your point and agree to an extent
But time and time again we have seen that mma math doesn’t work. There are just too many factors determining the outcome of any fight
"eat shit." billions of flies cant be wrong
by salamagogo on Jan 30, 2012 9:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe if it goes to
The matt. Because Jones’s reach allows him to have a distinct advantage when it comes to guys guards. He can basically beat the shit out of you in your guard due to the reach advantage. We’ll see, but if Rashad catches Jon flush it’s night night. Other than that I don’t see Rashad winning and im a fan of both.
About his Prime, I just don't know. . .
I’m not so sure fighting sports work that way. I mean, he’ll reach physical maturity in a few years, but once you reach the plateau of your division, as he has at such a young age, you’re constantly up against a murderer’s row, which takes it toll. He hasn’t take much damage yet, sure, but still. It seems to me that fighter’s reach a different kind of prime—-that is, the height of their dominance—-that doesn’t necessarily correlate to their age or experience. It’s like that right now, and for the new while, is Bones’ prime, just as likely as he’ll become even better in his late 20s or his career will hit the skids with a series of injuries (in hockey, think Crosby, currently, or Mike Bossy back in the day).
For instance, Belfort and Rua both exploded onto the scene at young ages, with phenomenal skills, but their primes weren’t in the usual 27-30 year old range, but instead corresponded with their respective early runs of dominance.
"Speaks well of a man to need a little something in this world. I wouldn't trust a man who could git through it cold sober."
--Harry Crews
I realized
Genetics play like half the roll if you want to make it in the MMA business. Just look at what JBJ has done to fighters that have been training everyday for their whole life and this genetic freak comes along with just a wrestling background and learns a year of striking and he is already the champ. Genetics definitely have a big roll in how far you can physically go.
If rashad can make jones uncomfortable grappling he can do some things
I just don’t see how he does it without getting guillotined .
Rashad has more refined wrestling in his game where as Jon is more of a judo player in my eyes than wrestler and he uses it to his advantage cause of his height and leverage .
Jon isn’t going to ko shad or anything on the feet but rashad would be wise to stay away from range striking with jon
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….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!
by wooly shambler on Jan 30, 2012 1:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I agree
But the thing that makes this so unpredictable is that, just look what he did to Machida. Who would’ve guessed a standing guillotine? That has BJJ black belt? That just shows that there is a whole new column of attacks he can take advantage of that fighters much smaller than him cannot. Height and reach wise when I say smaller. I think it’s night night for JBJ though, had Rashad lands flush, because he doesn’t just throw Diaz punches, he wings everything into them, his whole body, fairly fast too. Very hard prediction though. Should be much more exciting than Davis/Evans lol.
yah it will be more exciting than that snooze fest
But i think Rashad will have a really hard time landing a decent punch
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Jones is way to strong for rashad to be able to grapple with imo
as soon as it hits the mat it’s over
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 30, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed with both posts
He just has a very convenient genetic advantage but he also takes advantage of that advantage haha. You get it though right?
The depth of your division matters as well. There just aren’t that many world class fighters in the UFC. Take away the marketing hype, and what do you have? The fact that we’re already talking about rematches just indicates how desperately the UFC needs to bring in new top talent from somewhere other than US college wrestling.
Isn't just a dumbass with gods
Genetics, he knows how to work that shit too!
Meant to hit reply...
Still can’t get that shit right lol
-1 lol
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by wooly shambler on Jan 30, 2012 1:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What comes for Hendo is a question too? There are no matches for him right now at 205 against any top guy coming off a win. Lil Nog was a fight he already turned down and with how he has looked lately, I see Hendo knocking him out, plus that really is a tough fight to sell. They could setup a match with Forest, Franklin rematch if he is healthy (I would like to see them in a 5 round fight), but with Rampage tied up, not sure who to match him up with at 205.
Anderson Silva as a MW title fight, given the uninspiring win by Sonnen jumps out at me the most.
As for Jones, if he beats Rashad and Hendo, then really there doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of other options. The only two real up and comers the he hasn’t beat are Davis and Gustaffson. There is King Mo if they bring him over, as another option and if Daniel Cormier can get down to 205, that is another fight, one that could be really interesting. Very quickly though, they could have the same issue with Jones that they had with GSP, where he cleaned out the division and they need to manufacture opposition for him. His body isn’t filled out enough for HW yet and I hate the idea that fighters should have to go up in weight. The only classes that really suit themselves to moving up are from 185 up to 205, as most of those guys have similar frames, given the likes of Carwin and Overeem at HW, 205 up to HW is a massive jump now.
ok here it goes
I would like to see Jones fight Hendo first considering Hendo’s age. Then Rashad would make sense. After that a fight with gustaffson if he keeps winning would be cool too. I know a fight with A. Silva would be cool as hell but don’t really see the UFC wanting to risk the mystique of both champions. If Cain Velasquez was able to move down him vs. Jones would be bad ass…
by KO's and Knee's on Jan 30, 2012 7:12 AM EST reply actions
Cormier would be interesting
however bones would beat him almost 9 out of 10 times
by KO's and Knee's on Jan 30, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
hope him anderson and gsp never switch divisions
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