UFC on FOX 2 results: Predictable failure in Chicago, UFC now 0-2 on network TV

It would take a miracle for UFC on FOX 3 to be 100% failure.

Also this better be the last time the UFC books a slew of wrestlers famous for a lack of striking ability…and then Michael Bisping.

Menefee saying Jones beat Shogun at UFC 119, calling him Jon Bones Jonny Jones, the whole “wrestling black belt” thing from Jones and then Rogan, and Goldberg’s retarded statement about Evans and Sonnen getting their rematches.

there were times rogan was talking about the opening bout… his words were (summary) “this is no better than a drunken brawl outside of a bar”.

Does this really paint the picture of MMA? No! its the image the haters of MMA need to keep it in the dark and away from the spot light.

JBJ was just awful, repeating words, losing his composure, and I swear to everything that is holy in this world… if he is on another broadcast team, I am not watching.

Goldie said crap like evans getting a rematch… WTF?!?!?!??! COME THE HELL ON!

and Did anyone else notice that wrestling now has a belt system? A BLACK BELT IN WRESTLING!?!?!?!??! dear lord! why the hell would JBJ say something like that?

Randy made it seem better… but i think he was just as thrown off by JBJ and Curt as the rest of us… it made him seem awkward.

I would like to see florian next to randy with curt. Curt does a good job normally, and I expect him to get better as he grows into it. He will learn and be with the likes of goldie. But Goldie seems to be doing a shitty job and I really cant stand him anymore..

it would have been better if we had our first major injury in the UFC on FOX!!!! Boom! Instant news coverage

Curt Menefee was off his game and Jon Jones is a terrible analyst. One of the big reasons the FOX deal was supposed to be so good for the UFC was that they would get the professional treatment we see other major sports get, like the NFL.

I’ve been shocked at how bad the flow of these shows have gone

This deal will sink the UFC.

Bye, it was fun while it lasted.

You know, the production thats worked for years. Instead they let Fox fuck it up like they did with the NHL…

Putting things in Foxes hands is always a bad idea. Not sure how much money they slipped into Lorenzos anus to let him screw it up this bad.

Seemed like they had a new octagon cover and the fighters didn’t look like they could get good footing.

Jones was AWFUL, just "turrible" as charles barkley would say. I never want to see him ever again as an analyst. Stick to fighting. Couture was fantastic imo, he should be on every fox broadcast and ppv.

The matchmaking was a problem here as well, they played it way too safe. Rashad should have been more agressive when he had Davis in those bad positions, he should have finished him. He did completely outclass phil however and I think he’s jones’ biggest and probaly only threat at lhw.

They should put Randy in with goldie and rogan to spice things up. Maybe they can use.mir as an analyst, I think he’s excellent.

Chael has turned into such a joke, it’s really pathetic. The guy is a disgrace to the sport. Putting him on fox sends the wrong message to the casual fans. They fire marquardt and johnson but they give chael a title shot and a spot on network tv. The guy is a convicted felon and cheat. Obviously i.understand why they promote him but.it still sends a bad message: that money trumps everything, no matter what. If you make the ufc money, they’ll bend over backwards to accomodate you.

With that being said I think anderson is going to absolutely smash chael in june. Chael looked like trash last night, bisping definitely won that fight. A healthy anderson will beat the hell out of chael, trt or not.

The fights were boring and Jones was terrible, besides that it was an okay event. He was pulling with his beef with Rogan and Goldie. Some one needs to get this dude a lollie-pop and settle his temper tantrum

MMA facts act like the insecure lover, always afraid they’ve made a bad impression. It’s a freaking sport, and if the UFC didn’t win new fans with the first two shows, it’s not like they’re going to LOSE existing fans because of it. At worst they’ll get lower ratings until, finally, they put on a few good shows and draw more eyes. They have a long-term contact so it’s not like they’re on a tryout.

The bottom line is that it was a crap event with non-exciting fights. If the UFC wants to put on a crazy Fox card they will. You can’t tell me they didn’t expect this one to be dull. But it’s not like one crap event will kill fans or anything.

The point is people are watching the shows and that’s really all that matters. Do you think NHL fans get all worried if there’s a dull came in the Stanley Cup Finals?

It might be the Bonnar-Griffin fallacy, as if that ONE fight and ONE event launched the whole sport into popularity. In truth, that fight did bring in a lot of eyes, but the product itself is what sold. It’s not like Tony Hawk made skateboarding relevant, he was just an eye-grabber. But MMA fans have this weird idea that one fight and one event can launch of sink a sport, which in some cases might be true, but not for a promotion the size of the UFC.

The point is MMA fans are so freaking sensitive about the popularity of the sport, as if the UFC will die if it doesn’t keep expanding. That’s what corporations want you to think—-than a non-expanding market equates with the death of the product—-but the fact of the matter is that the UFC as it stands is big business, and even if they don’t become the next NFL, they’ll still do okay.

I enjoyed all 3 matches, so maybe others did as well? it’s kind of hard for new fans to enjoy the fights when the crowd is so quick to boo. i guess i can understand the booing, the fighters only have three five minute rounds, so when the action gets stalled it can stay that way for longer than necessary. I’d much rather see five 2 minute rounds.

i agree with you on the commentating

Neither Chael Sonnen nor Rashad Evans did much of anything to make folks believe they are legitimate threats to Anderson Silva and Jon Jones

I agree with chael, but i was really, really impressed with evans in this one.. that kind of upsets me, he looked great against a very dangerous submission threat. Phil is not a can, i believe he is still towards the top with the wins he had. Evans came centimeters from a knockout, tbh i’m glad he didn’t get the knockout, out of fear that he’s break his hand. He had a ton of pressure on him to win, not get injured (becaause the ufc would put henderson in there within a heart beat) and not get caught in ANY bad positions. Phil is dangerous Geno, i hope you can give Evans a bit more credit once the event has passed a few days and you’ve had time to get all the bs that went down a chance to chill over

but i agree with pretty much everything you said. you hearing any rumours about ufc on fox 3 fights? it’s going to be my first event if i can get tickets :]

What’s GSP going to do?

Say no?

Silva isnt signing another acting fight with Sonnen

“Never leave it in the hands of the judges” is the most cringeworthy catchphrase in MMA. That phrase is one of the many reasons why I despise Dana.

The fights were average at best and were always going to end in decisions, the only bright point was Bispings performance. The production (Randy aside) wasn’t great but that wouldn’t have mattered if the fights were actually good. They need to have more experienced MMA analysts on the show rather than big name fighters, Randy should be brought in for all of the shows and I’d like to see him with Pat Miletich or Kenny Florian as they have broadcasting experience and can break down fights comprehensively and articulately.

As bad as this show was at least Diaz-Condit will make up for it. That fight is going to be this years FOTY.

We got 3 fights at the top of the rankings in each of their respective divisions. And how do you get to the top? Wrestle-fucking for position and points. And then, laughably, sometimes even when you do what these idiots score they decide to randomly not pay attention and give the fight away to your opponent (read Bisping v Chael).

I appreciated you writing. Good points were cleared up by your arguments. It is unacceptable that Anderson Silva and Jon Jones didn’t come in into the ring to staredown their contenders.

First off, Jones is a fighter, of course he may not be the perfect analyst but he did a good enough job for a guy who hasn’t done much of it before.

“Bisping was heard saying the word ‘goddamn’” — Oh no! FUCK! Lookout kids!

Your rant about Rogan being a promoter leans closer to one preferring a WWE-style promotional approach (which works for their product, and would work for the UFC if we all wanted it to be lumped into the same basket — and to some it already is, which is not how I want it to be perceived).

If the UFC took your promo advice it would end up a cheap and gaudy shell of a sport.

You say, “What on Earth can be accomplished by telling the viewers that what they’re watching isn’t pretty?” But I would prefer Rogan’s honest assessment of how he sees things the way they are rather than a contrived and dishonest promoter’s spiel designed to pander to the masses like an unpopular loser trying desperately and too conspicuously to get new friends.

In reference to the judges you say, “If we can’t trust them to be competent, why should we care about the sport at all?”

Once again. It’s the honesty of the situation. I prefer them to run things the way they do with an unflinching confidence in how good the sport is (its flaws included) instead of trying to promote it like it’s a D-grade product that appeals to a D-grade crowd.

And of the fights being boring — so what? I can see where you’re coming from, that they should promote the UFC like it’s a shiny new toy and package it as bright and shiny as they can so the little kids will point it out to their mamas and rip away the packaging once they get it and play with it in all its shiny glory. But I’d prefer they just present it as it is without trying too hard to appeal to the kids and let them see it for what it is so they can receive their introduction by getting acquainted with the stars as they analyze other stars – like Jon Jones and Brock Lesnar have — and make up their own minds about it. If the fights end up boring, there are more fights to come. It’s a sport, not a scripted play, the peaks and troughs make it what it is and lends more excitement to the anticipation of whether the fight will play out how we see it or if it won’t. The way you want it is one step away from fixing fights.

Maybe it’s a minor gripe but how can I take this man’s analysis seriously while he’s spinning back and forth in his chai

Agreed. Jones drove me crazy, and he was terrible at as an analyst.

Best one was:
“Jon what are Rashad’s keys to victory?”
“Not to fight me..muahhh ha ha”" . ……..good one Jonathan

Geno is gonna get a lot of hate for this one, but I agree with him. There were plenty of things in this broadcast that left me saying “wtf?”

for example:
someone correct me if im wrong, cause i did fall asleep for first fight of broadcast, but they didnt show any of the fights from the undercard on the televised portion? We had all three bonus’ come from the undercard and they didnt show any on Fox, like Oliv slick sub, or HW KO. It would have given new fans at least something to talk about!

Another question I have is: What is the big deal about FOX on a saturday night? The other programs before and after the UFC are like infomercials and the The Big Bang Theory…they also promote other things like Pro Wrestling…so why is it a big deal to be on Fox on a Saturday night? if the UFC wasnt on, we would be watching re-runs of Family Guy instead..?

thats why i had been saying for a long time they should of put the condit vs diaz fight on this fox card … they are not making new fans with these things .. if anything they may be losing people …

Good stuff. It was poorly chosen matches, basically only wrestlers / grapplers (and Bisping). And they all went to boring decisions. Plus the production values sucked, especially Jon Jones. I think it was a huge mistake to put such grapple-heavy snoozefests on their first real FOX card, that shit is not going convert any new fans at all.

Bones , Randy and that other guy sucked complete shit. They took away from the event as far as I was concerned. These fox events need to be star studded but if they do that no one will pay for PPV anymore, what to do now! IMO I thought both Fox events sucked from start to finish, including a few of the fights. Joe Rogan needs to be part of the deal, its just not the same without him, him and goldy are the best regardless of what anyone thinks.

i know the ufc are trying to break into mainstream sports, and therefore have to try and present themselves like one, nevertheless i want the normal ufc intro (not cheesy nfl music) and i want to be able to watch the fighters entrances and corners between rounds, instead of watching the same ads time and time again.

i thought the goddamn comment was being a bit pedantic though