UFC on FOX 2 results: Careful what you wish for, suggestions to get MMA right on network television
by Jason Probst on Jan 29, 2012 1:00 PM EST
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After the 64 seconds of action that comprised UFC on Fox 1 in Nov. 2011, the heavyweight championship fight between Junior dos Santos vs. Cain Velasquez underscored the risks of going with a single-bout telecast. So, Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) flipped the script for Saturday night's (Jan. 28, 2012) show at the United Center in Chicago, Ill., installing a three-fight card.
Instead, all the bouts went the distance, and, with the exception of Chael Sonnen's close decision win over a resilient Michael Bisping, the telecast was largely free of out-of-your-seat moments. You can't make everybody happy all the time, and it'll be interesting to see what the mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion does next to mitigate against what happened last night:
A telecast that never seemed to get out of second gear.
There are no certainties with matchmaking. Nonetheless, I'd suggest the following in order to strike a balance between quality entertainment and creating excess "fill time" on the telecast:
Lavar Johnson's stoppage of Joey Beltran (Watch it right here) was a great example of how a heavyweight fight can provide entertainment and watchability, though to be fair to the UFC, if it'd gone three rounds, it might have been every bit as underwhelming as you'd expect, and with much lower-ranked fighters then those on the main card.
That's the reason matchmaking heavies is especially important, as the Mike Russow vs. Jon Olav Einemo snoozer proved. Thank god that bout wasn't on the main card, but then again, everyone knows precisely why it wasn't. But styles make fights, and aggressive big guys looking to slug is acceptable red meat to throw to a massive fan base looking to be entertained.
Until core viewing audience has been subjected to the MMA learning curve as the pay-per-view (PPV) bunch has, it may be hard to televise sluggish bouts like Chris Weidman vs. Demian Maia without some promotional blowback.
Perception is everything.
Second, as much Randy Couture as possible on the broadcast panel.
Couture is solid on the mic and provides a critical recognizable link in that role, both for newer and old-school fans. Like Pat Miletich, he speaks in the rare style of being understated and plain, yet exceptionally effective, precisely because he doesn't waste words. That's a key grounding element in the give-and-take of a broadcast, especially as the team gels and flows together with everyone involved becoming more comfortable with their role.
UFC on Fox 2 had its share of growing pains, and the evolution of the telecast, from both a production and matchmaking perspective, will move forward. There's a happy medium out there, and after two extreme results on either end of the pendulum, the organization is definitely due for a hit that provides exciting action and sustained content for the duration of a telecast.
It just wasn't Saturday night, but that's the good part of having a seven-year deal.
For complete UFC on FOX 2: "Evans vs. Davis" results and coverage click here and here.
Jason Probst can be reached at www.twitter.com/jasonprobst.
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I say turn the heat down during the event just a bit more…….based on the picture in your post I’d like to see just a bit more
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Yeah, you're quite a perceptive human being
Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.
Brock was bad on the first fox show and jones was even worst.What’s with him twirling around in his chair playing with his pen and staring at the floor while he talked? Just keep fighters interviews to a few seconds/minutes to avoid a long awkward broadcast
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by letter19 on Jan 29, 2012 1:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That was painful to watch
The way he read the paper in studdard made joe rogans fox intro a few months back seem flawless
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
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by Kalejohncox on Jan 29, 2012 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Everyone on the panel was screwing up, Randy included....
But quote of the night goes to Joe Rogan when hyping the Diaz/Condit fight:
“These two guys are at the very top of the Pound-For-Pound list…, with regard to the 170 pound division…”
Wait.., What?
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
HAHAHAH
i didnt even book that!
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
He also kept looking at the piece of paper on the desk, I assume to remind himself of what he was talking about. He came across like a teenager doing a class talk. I can understand it to be honest, I used to hate giving class talks when I was at school. But when he’s providing analysis for fights it looks unprofessional.
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
Agree
I understand why jon struggled that’s why I feel fox should change the format
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by letter19 on Jan 29, 2012 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What would you do to the format if you had full control over it?
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
Couture is good mir is pretty good also if fox wants fighters on the panel they should have the ones that are comfortable on the mic
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by letter19 on Jan 29, 2012 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Youll have to excuse Bones He whoops ass for a living not commentate.
He whoops ass for a living not commentate.
You talking to me?....
Why did you repeat yourself
And what your wrote doesn’t make sense either
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
by Kalejohncox on Jan 29, 2012 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it does if you speak
xxbomerxxese
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 29, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
You'll have to excuse XxBomberxX he blows goats for a living not commentate
he blows goats for a living not commentate.
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I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 30, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Thats the point
Stay in the cage and off the broadcast stage
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by letter19 on Jan 29, 2012 1:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh god he was aweful!
I was embarrassed watching him up there. He should stick to his day job.
Yeah and Jones clearly was stumbling on lines that were obviously written on a paper eight in front of him. And the Damn camera focused on it. I’m not one to care so much for the interviews and what not but that was just stupid and unprofessional looking
by zesotheclown on Jan 29, 2012 1:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
100% Jones was horrible looking down at his notes the whole time
everything is an act......... T.N.Crew Bronx 13 1/2 12 juror's ,1 judge = 1/2 a chance
by biggant on Jan 29, 2012 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
not only that but twirling in his chair and have the speech cadence — or lack thereof, of a 12 year old.
by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 29, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Good post
IMO the UFC was banking on bisping Maia being fireworks as well as munoz great wrestling making the sonnen fight more interesting. The Munoz injury really messed things up for the UFC. I thought I was a good last minute change to the card. I would have gone with a more exciting main event tho. Davis Evans had safe fight written all over it.
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
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by Kalejohncox on Jan 29, 2012 1:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Everyone should enjoy the free fights
I missed them but it was two fights for the number 1 contender spot, for free, what else can one ask for? Newbies won’t like it or get it, but I say fuck em, who needs them anyway?
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by antone04 on Jan 29, 2012 1:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The ufc lol
They need them more then anything. Or this sport will never grow
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
by Kalejohncox on Jan 29, 2012 1:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yes the ufc needs new fans/viewers
Especially with ppv numbers last year dropping and increased ppv streams the ufc needs more pockets to dig in to
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by letter19 on Jan 29, 2012 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yessir
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
1 week sig bet with ThePride - Kampmann over Alves
2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
by Kalejohncox on Jan 29, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If the UFC wants new fans/viewers
All they have to do is get on of their lackey stations to broadcast BJ Penn against Nick Diaz over and over and over and over again.
Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.
Fuck boring-ass decisions
And Dana White butt-munchers who approve those
by Stonian Prince on Jan 29, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I have no problems
Personally I didnt see anything “wrong” with the event, its just like a regular pay per view. Dont misrepresent it to the people like every match is a back alley/phone booth type of brawl.
However….
This is the problem with the 3 losses and youre gone rule in UFC, nobody wants to lose, so guys play it safe, you need some banger, warrior types that will go balls to the wall, like a L. Garcia win lose or draw. Stop cutting every freaking body Dana.
drops mic
mic squeal
You talking to me?....
I tend to agree
That’s why Dana cut Gerald Harris after only one Lose olloeig three straight ko/tko wins. Didn’t like how he was playing it safe I guess. If you bang and give your all and fans want to see you. You shouldn’t be cut
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
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by Kalejohncox on Jan 29, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Following
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
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2 Week sig/pic bet with TheDragon - Diaz over Condit
1 Week sig/pic bet with doonerthesooner - Bendo over Edgar
by Kalejohncox on Jan 29, 2012 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea i agree and a true mma fan would have known Evans/Davis didn’t have fireworks written all over it. And as for the Mia/weidman fight I knew whenever you have a last minute fight it can either be a quick fight or you’ll see guys gas out and make it boring. Like when koscheck stepped up on short noticed that fight went well but that rarlwy happens when we have a last minute replacement
by zesotheclown on Jan 29, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We use the term a "fight has fireworks written all over it"
Reality is nobody knows how a fight will turn-out until its happens
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by letter19 on Jan 29, 2012 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cain vs JDS was suppose to be the most epic battle at HW in ufc history (hype)
Fight over in a minute..
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by letter19 on Jan 29, 2012 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They really should have had the Bendo Guida fight as part of the broadcast. That was an awesome fight and would have represented the sport perfectly to a new viewer.
They actually did on UFC.TV. They played it before the JDS fight, then afterwards they played a couple of other fights.
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
bendo vs guida was real good
The lighter weight classes are the safest bet when trying to book a exciting match
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by letter19 on Jan 29, 2012 1:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
An awesome fight nobody saw
Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.
I am one of the very few people who didn’t mind that last two fights on the main card. They were just a couple of average fights, I didn’t think they were terrible at all. Maia Weidman was dreadful though.
I think the main thing people were disappointed with is that they expected Sonnen to dominate and Rashad to get the TKO. It obviously didn’t end up happening, but I wasn’t disappointed because the fights still showed a fair bit of variety in the action.
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
they need to show some freakshow and out matched fights.
Look at kimbo on cbs and couture vs toney. No one wants to see rashad evans out technique phil davis. Simple. Ufc should pull people in with squash fights and intriging fights.
Beltran vs carwin would prove to be good. Something like that.
by D-MoB on Jan 29, 2012 1:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Exactly Hendo VS Shogun would've did magic on fox
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by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 29, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Or Jones vs Rua
that would be a classic on an outmatched fight
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 29, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yawn from start to finish...
I was so disappointed with this card… I had such great hopes for it to. I love this sport and I think this was an historical event but I feel it was a miss… and thats a bummer.
Maybe the issue was that they put on some known non-finishers… Did anyone think Bisping could finish Chael? or that Chael who has not finished a fight in a while would finish bisping?
How about Maia that has not finished anyone as of late taking on a guy that had no time to train… The hope was for Rashad to have a good fight with a game opponent. Mr Wonderful not only not look game, he look frightened which made the fight even worse. Phil was not ready for Rashad, and Rashad needed to just win this fight to get to his goal.
Maybe next time, they will put on a striker vs striker matchup, a known finisher vs a known finisher, not put a guy that was supposed to fight 3 months from now on the main card.
I am sad to say this card put me to sleep. 5 rounds of Rashad harassing Phil was too much to bare for a huge fan, imagine what it did to people who know nothing about the sport…
me too
My stepdad is a casual fan he thought they were the worst fight he’d ever seen
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 29, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
True.
I thought fight of the night should have went to my eyeballs vs. the tv during the Maia/Weidman fight.
by naturalshadow on Jan 29, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 29, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Why doesn't Joe Rogan just put some fun damn fights on FOX, Like 2 fun fights and 1 credible fight.
For Example the televised maincard should be like
Faber VS Cruz 2
Shane Carwin VS Big Nog
Edson Barboza VS Pettis/ Lauzon winner
This is a real no brainer, I just didn’t think putting Rashad Evans VS Phil Davis would’ve been a good fight on FOX
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 29, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions
*joe silva
NOVA UNIAO
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I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 29, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Faber Cruz would be a guaranteed decsion, most people dont like the little guys too much
Lol at Joe Rogan
It'd be a better decision than Davis-Evans
NOVA UNIAO
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by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 29, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yes! I agree with all of those choices. Faber Cruz will have lots of action, Shane Carwin vs Big Nog should have a KO or at least some heavy hands and I see great things for Edson Barboza against anyone, especially Lauzon or Pettis.
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
Exactly, Fun fights get over..
Joe Silva just wanted to get a popular name like Rashad on FOX, which isn’t bad; but against Phil Davis? I’d put Chris Leben VS Drew Fucking McFredries on Fox before Shad-Davis
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by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 29, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Or when you put equally-matched fighters on the card. Said it before, say it again. The UFC needs more cans. Nothing is more fun than seeing a spectacular demolition.
No, it’s what happens when you market below average fighters as the best. Beltron wouldn’t last in the smaller shows, Roop is an embarrassment. As for Mike Russow, these are all very average MMA fighters with no serious talent, thus their fights sucking. Hanging onto your opponent because you have no other offense, it makes for terrible, drawn out fights.
This event proved that the talent pool in MMA is shallow. At least in boxing you get guys who can go 12 rounds and keep it technical, no matter what. Guys like Mike Russow are fighting in MMA, because they can’t fight Boxing, Kickboxing. They have no serious skill set, so they choose MMA as a part time job.
Bobby Southworth
I agree with that for the HW division’s lower and mid tier. I was incredibly unimpressed with the Russow/Einemo fight. They pimped Einemo hard before the Pee Wee fight, they did the same with this fight and both times he gassed horribly. It’s such a problem with heavyweights, I never look forward to the lower tier fights because over and over I have been disappointed by their cardio.
To be honest the Maia Weidman fight reminded me of a HW bout they way they gassed also.
Weight cutting is one excuse. Illness can be another. I don’t know what the excuse is for the heavyweights who aren’t packing a great deal of muscle though.
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
This event proved that the talent pool in MMA is shallow.
At least we agree on that. Said it before, say it again. The best fighters in the world are not in the UFC. The UFC is largely a cult of mediocrity, with a massive marketing machine (with Joe Rogan as chief cheerleader) hyping mediocre fighters to high heavens.
The UFC needs to go on a massive recruiting drive, dangling lucrative contracts in front of the best Kickboxers, Boxers, Muay Thai fighters, Karateka, Judoka, Taekwondo players and Kung-fu masters in the world. Recruiting 90% American wrestlers who can barely throw a punch, have zero stamina and kick like Karate yellow belts is painful for anyone who has seen real martial artists perform to a high technical standard.
Ronda Rousey’s rampage is what happens when you recruit a real martial artist from a proper technical background and let them loose amongst the half-baked brawlers that make up most of the UFC/Strikeforce roster.
While I don’t agree their are tons of great fighters in other organizations I do agree Joe Rogan overhypes below average fighters way toooooo much. That’s one thing I can appreciate more about boxing announcers is that they tend to call it like it is with respect to a fighter’s skills. Joe Rogan has a broner for anyone who does bjj even though it’s plainly obvious they are AWFUL at striking… They need some more dudes that “keep it real”, it seems like Joe only randomly decides when he’s going to comment on how bad someone’s striking is… It’s as if he doesn’t have an eye for it and doesn’t really understand it, he’s knowledgable in the grappling realm I’ll give him that but they need someone else on the broadcast that’s going to keep it real and someone that’s more well rounded— this is mma after all, can’t be a one trick pony.
by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 29, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Ronda's rampage ? hahahaha
She’s won 4 fights against nobody of merit . The reason more karate fags don’t fight in the ufc is because they get their ass kicked in smaller promotions before they make it to the UFC .
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 29, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
lol true.
Mot doesnt know his MMA though, you must pardon his ignorant comments.
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I actually agree with what you’re saying danago, boxing does have thicker talent pools for the time being. There’s still guys fighting on ufc main cards that are pure wrestlers or pure bjj and that’s a testament to the fact the sport has a long way to develop… That’s why I agree with the low pay grade in mma for the time being as I see there’s a lot of room for improvement in many of the fighters… In less than 15 years we should no longer see pure wrestlers or pure bjj or pure strikers but rather well rounded fighters that have been training every aspect of MMA since they were young… At that point the sport might actually become more boring for the casual fan because there will be an absence of sloppy knockouts and to the same end an absence of guys gassing after the 1st round…
by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 29, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I would never call a fight with high technical proficiency boring if both fighters were giving it their all, it’s the fight where nothing is happening, they aren’t giving it their all, and they’re sloppy as fuck that really bother me… Even a fight where something does happen, like Beltran’s knockout is only mildly satisfying considering that looked like rock-em-sock-em robots and JDS would punch that guys head off in a matter of seconds…
by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 29, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Blame fighter pay for guys needing a second job.
Solution: pay the lower tier fighters more so they can train full time and deliver better performances.
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naw I disagree, I don’t want to see guys like Roop or Russow getting paid $50,000 for something I could in a back alley behind a bar.
by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 29, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
*I could see… Guys like Rashad, GSP, and AS are getting a lot better money and I think they could stand to get even more because they are that good… But in terms of the low grade fighters I don’t see any reason for them to be making more than $15,000. I mean effort or not whatever Maia and Weidman got paid it was too much, that was a truly amateurish display not worthy of a pro-athlete salary.
by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 29, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Then fire them and find better fighters.
I agree that the fight was awful, so I think we need better quality control.
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Anyone else notice at the end of the Roller-Johnson fight
Bruce Buffer said-
“Herb dean….. and the rest of the scudges have scored this contest 29-28”
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no reason why they couldnt havent shown the Oliv sub or HW KO on the main card
this shit was over before midnight here!
Geno, along with many others, called this...
most people knew the “triple header” were going to be all decisions
UFC on Fox 3
Hey guys any Predictions on who will fight on this card besides Miller vs Diaz?
This will be my first ever event, pretty excited!
quote of the week:: Miesha Tate - "She better keep that pretty little chin tucked if she doesn't want to wake up with the lights in her eyes."
I was excited to show a guy from Germany the UFC. He had never heard of it in his country. We only saw the Fox fights. I was embarrassed by the end of the show. Pathetic. It had me screaming for my money back. Until I realized this time it was free. I could hardly imagine another bust for the UFC on Fox. I would be three in a row. Lets hope next time they deliver.
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My suggestions:
NEVER put Maia or Weidman on a main card ever again unless they are coming off of 20 straight KO wins.. NEVER put Chael Sonnen on any card, if he can’t finish he’ll smother to a decision. Thirdly, makes some good F*ing match-ups… End.
Chael can't finish?
Ask Brain Stann about that.
by Armando Baez on Jan 29, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Weidman had an excuse
Maia didn’t
Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.
Need to get some smaller weights in there to really show people what MMA is about
I’m not resting until I’m officially Anderson Silva status.- Jon "Bones" Jones
For a MMA fan, it was a fine card,
You got to see Sonnen and Evans fight for free, two guys who you would have to pay to see fight prior to last night, and you got outcomes that were predictable. Evans and Sonnen by decision. But for the UFC trying to bring in Newbie fans the show was a disaster. An embarassing first hour with bad production/pre game show and an awful first fight and then two other fights which were not bad but were hardly exciting.
What some people don't understand
About the nature of combat sports is just that; Anything CAN happen.It’s the unpredictability that makes it so exciting.The occasional boring fights need to happen sometimes because it makes you appreciate the barn-burners that much more.
by Brentanimous P-R-I-M-E on Jan 29, 2012 3:38 PM EST reply actions
An english fans perspective
personally, im starting to be turned off by ‘’UFC on Fox’’ it feelsl ike a bastardised version. if not only for how ‘american’ its become, the music, the stupid amount of presenters and analyists and the general quality of the production seems lower too since it moved to fox. it really is starting to look like strikeforce!
all in all i couldnt get enough ufc, from 100 onwards with the larger cards, more cards per month and undercards on facebook. Now all there is are 3 fights as I have to skip all the parts inbetween.
really. its a big step bacwards for me or in my opinion.
Agreed
I saw this coming when they first announced UFC of Fox.
All downhill from here I’m afraid.
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Fox is the one to blame
Fox is doing the same damn thing everyone has complained Showtime was doing. You can’t advertise 3-4 fights, air them regardless of the outcomes, then go off the air. If Fox had half a brain they would have aired 1 exciting prelim after the Weidman/Maia fight and then again after the Bisping/Sonnen fight. Why was Fox in such a hurry to take UFC off the air when it’s guaranteed to draw more viewers than the re-runs they ended up running?
It already went over the allotted time as it was.
The plan is to air prelims IF time permits. If they had done what you suggested, local newscasts would have been over 40 min late and each of those stations would have had people calling in to complain.
The one real issue I had was that the crowd was poorly mic’d. Even when folks were cheering, it was not too noticeable.
Going to commercials between rounds is the biggest failure of them all
Roller was robbed. He was held up at knifepoint by Herb Dean, stripped naked, and sodomized with a stainless steel dildo.
Yeah, sucks not hearing the corners for sure.
But, I’ll let the commercials (sponsors) pay for these events, NOT me.
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