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UFC on FOX 2 results: Chael Sonnen rips off 'Superstar' Billy Graham in post-fight promo (Video)

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Chael Sonnen is a rip-off.

Not that we didn't know this already, of course, but tonight he took it to an entirely new level. After defeating Michael Bisping in the co-main event of the UFC on FOX 2: "Evans vs. Davis" fight card last night (Sat., Jan. 28, 2012) in Chicago, Ill., Sonnen cut yet another pro wrestling-style promo when interviewed by Joe Rogan.

In fact, it sounded oddly familiar to old school WWE fans. And that's because they heard it before.

For you newer fans of mixed martial arts (MMA) who keep hearing about how Sonnen rips off pro wrestling and think it's all a load of bull, allow me to present you with the most damning evidence possible.

Sonnen almost word-for-word ripped off a promo cut by the great "Superstar" Billy Graham. Watch Sonnen's version and then watch a real pro do his job after the jump.

Star-divide

First, Sonnen's rip-off that you saw last night:

Now, the real deal Holyfield:

Thoughts, Maniacs?

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i was gonna write a fanpost about this, but i'm just not motivated enough, so i'll ask everyone here

is chael’s persona affecting chael the fighter? I think he’s getting more and more concerned about how he wants himself to be portrayed and viewed by fans and the media than how he fights.

occupy my pants

by theoregonduck on Jan 29, 2012 1:05 AM EST reply actions  

Was thinking the same thing myself

Chael almost blew it against Spitsfling tonight. If he doesn’t focus, he’s going to be dominated by the Spider.

by MMAven on Jan 29, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Let’s not get it twisted he’s going to get dominated by the spida no matter what lol……don’t let Faels’ delousion fool you also. Do you remember how easily this guy got swept mounted and tapped by DM? Fael is not that good, he just talks a superior game although he’s beat a vastly over-rated fighter in Stann recently and looked like shit tonight in fighting a guy who in no way would of hung with Andy, on Andy’s worse day which was like he was during his last fight with Fael……..you better believe while Andy is laying Fael’s face open like a butcher carves off a slice of that sunday roast he’s going to be thinking god damn Chael that massive slice of meat hanging from face that is going to require about fifty or so stiches to fix the dmage I just caused you for running your big fucking disrespectful mouth even after I kindly asked that you at least leave family out of this…..but you continued to do so……….oh well here is another fifty or so stitches.

You know who I would love to see interview Fael, Paulo Filho lmao oh lawd what a tense uncomfortable situation that would be, huh?

Don’t misunderstand things though Andy is going to beat Fael into a living death, honestly just wait and watch what I told you. That injury had a ton to do with why Andy do so poorly against Fael in their last fight, as did the new TRT program aka massive backacny……..and don’t let me get all conspiracy theory on you but as did that movie they were making about Andy’s entire lifes work. That is all I’m going to say about that for fear of being called a CT loon hahaha.

Also crazy how this dude who claims to be the number one MW in the world get beat by a totally mentally ill PFilho and sort of a meek quiet cat would all of a sudden become this shit talking number one MW in the world and start violently beating folks ass right after he starts this TRT program……hmmmm? I mean when was the last time you saw such a drastic change in a someones personality, maybe in one of those “Any given sunday” type of movies that depict this athlete failing at his sport who then decides to look for a way to improve his performance and end up doing better at his sport……..agree/disagree?

by Modusopks on Jan 29, 2012 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't have said it better.

Anderson might actually beat him within an inch of his life.

I must admit Chael is amusing me though.

Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.

by MdV on Jan 29, 2012 7:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Reply fail, that was for Modusopks. It still works though.

Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.

by MdV on Jan 29, 2012 7:07 AM EST up reply actions  

you couldn't have said it better?

then i feel bad for you. that was an incoherent rant filled with conspiracy theory bullshit and we are all dumber for having read it.

by tha dude on Jan 29, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

ORLY ? Let me double check what he said

- Chael was taken down, mounted and submitted easily by Maia
- He beat a vastly overrated fighter in Stann
- He looked like shit against Bisping who wouldn’t stand a chance against the Spider
- Chael changed from A to Z all of a sudden after he started boosting his ass with Testosterone

Now tell me, smart guy, which of these points seem outrageous ?

It’s easy to throw random words such as “dumb” or “conspiracy theory”. It doesn’t make you right.

Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.

by MdV on Jan 29, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  


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by MMAisfuntowatch on Jan 29, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

his just cashing in drawing more attention to himself

so such thing as bad publicity

Dont act like your shit dont stink

by MegaReem on Jan 29, 2012 1:07 AM EST reply actions  

i wouldn't mind so much but he looked piss poor for most of the fight

if he wants to brag, fair enough. but dominate a fight before you do. chael looks shit when he’s not cheating. silva will destroy him

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Jan 29, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

True in most cases

But I think Chael is in a different category altogether. The problem in Chael’s case is that he just isn’t clever enough to pull it off. The only people he will attract to the sport are WWE fans. I think his act is bad for the sport, but may pull in a few new fans.

I must admit, he controlled Shitbing much better than I anticipated. Chael, time to drop the corny act and focus on the task at hand….getting spanked by AS.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I missed the fight because of work tonight but that was funny

Chael is gonna keep ufck going for a long time acting like that, I’m sure Dana doesn’t mind at all

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by antone04 on Jan 29, 2012 1:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

hey Geno..good pick up on the Superstar rip..

I swear to God I heard a dozen old school pros echoing out of Chael’s mouth, just couldn’t gather them all in my head, but
I heard Hulk in the “Brother”, the Rock in the snatching away away the mike..
And I swear he was gonna say “beat me if you can, survive if I let you!” Right at the end!

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 29, 2012 1:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

The guy is a turd.

Cheated as a realtor (scumbag job), failed politician, cheats in MMA (still loses), and then can’t even come up with his own shtick? Why am I not surprised?

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

if bisping beat him(i choose to believe he did) he stands no chance against silva

can’t wait for brazil

and like most people you forgot an important part of his history “failed politician, DEDICATES A FIGHT TO THE MEMORY OF HIS DEAD FATHER and cheats in MMA (still loses)”

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Jan 29, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

sadly

it will be carved in stone for all eternity.

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s what he would have wanted sir….it’s what he would have wanted.

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

we he really have wanted his son to piss all over his grave? cuz he got it

i have to wonder if there’s some sort of gag order on bringing this shit up if you’re facing sonnen. no one seems to mention it, bis said about him cheating, but come on, there’s so much dirt on chael.

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Jan 29, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't agree with the 30-27

Mike held his own, but didn’t look dominant enough in my eyes. You had him winning the fight?

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont see what all the fuss is about..

i had it 29-28, with chael taking rounds 1 & 3..

sucker free boss!~

by stinky~fingers on Jan 29, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i had him dominating the first round and for sure the second

chael got take downs sure, but did nothing with them, he tried to hold bis down but couldn’t. bis pinned cahel against the cage and held him there, plus bis landed the harder shots while chael was giving half hearted knuckle taps to the side of bispings head only moving his forearms.

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Jan 29, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

id say if any round was dominant it was round 3, which chael owned.

the first round was close imo, and i gave the 2nd to bisping.. neither being dominant rounds..

i wouldn’t have been upset if mike got the nod.. but if i was judging, i would have scored it in favor of sonnen.

sucker free boss!~

by stinky~fingers on Jan 29, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

i think in the first bis did enough to show that he was the aggressor, the one inflicting the one in control

i dunno. it’s just how i saw it. i do hate the stupid “get a takedown win the round” rule, if chael had done something with those takedowns and bis didn’t pop back up i’d agree chael won it.

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Jan 29, 2012 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

you forgot to add

cheated at amateur wrestling, ask Munoz

by charlyw on Jan 29, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

ha. good looking out, general.. did you notice yourself, or did someone point it out?

chael is a funny dude, but no way in hell he could cut a promo better than billy graham.. that video was hilarious!

sucker free boss!~

by stinky~fingers on Jan 29, 2012 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

I like his comment about running in the desert to stay tanned

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by unambig on Jan 29, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Can't take full credit here

though it sounded familiar. I couldn’t place it but saw it on the Observer and then a few people mentioned Graham on Twitter. Watched the vids and was like, ‘Fuck, this is terrible.’

And you’re right, Graham does is better than Sonnen could ever hope to.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jan 29, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

still good one pointing that out.. it was bugging me.

im have been getting a little tired of chael as of late, but he still drops a good line here or there.. it’s a damn shame he’s ripping off old pro wrestlers like graham..

sucker free boss!~

by stinky~fingers on Jan 29, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Inspiration is one thing

outright stealing their shit is another.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jan 29, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

there has got to be other lines too.

lately after everything chael says im scratching my head thinking i have heard that somewhere..

sucker free boss!~

by stinky~fingers on Jan 29, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

it's bad delivery too. souless. he's just running through lines and it comes across as lame and phoney

i’m guessing he spends an awful lot of time on the phone with cm punk late at night. and why not? he has a bunch of free time now he doesn’t have to hustle on street corners for drugs during his training camps

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Jan 29, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha Damn

It’s like he studied this shit

by rscott94 on Jan 29, 2012 1:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

when you are a cheat and a liar

the first skill that you pick up is plagiarism

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by hairybumcrack on Jan 29, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice job Geno or should I call yo Sherlock instead?. I suggest you leave detective work for the pros and stop trying to hide your Sonnen hate. As Superstar Billy Graham has said himself about guys ripping him off like Hulk Hogan and Jesse Ventura it’s the highest compliment for someone to rip you off.

"I don't walk around looking at cameras telling people that I am the best fighter in the world to hear myself talk. I say it for the same reason they put warnings on packages of cigarettes, because fighting Chael Sonnen may be hazardous to one's health."-Chael Sonnen

by Raker on Jan 29, 2012 1:27 AM EST reply actions  

If you can do it well, you'll get props.

If you outright steal someone else’s shit, you’ll get called on it. And I liked Sonnen until recently. You know, when he failed to come up with anything new and the only “new” shit he came up with was just blatantly ripping off old pro wrestlers.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Jan 29, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Only problem, Sonnen fights are real!! Wayne Arthur

by ussclaudejones on Jan 29, 2012 1:27 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Gay

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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 29, 2012 1:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Billy Graham's not dead Geno

He’s an incredibly bitter person these days but he’s still alive. And Superstar had had his promos ripped off for years, both Hogan and Ventura are huge rip-offs of him. Sonnen’s ripped off Graham before as well, I spotted it when he started calling himself the “reflection of perfection”.

Sad to say that losing fights and plagiarising wrestling promos earns you title shots in the UFC. Note to all MMA fighters, recite scripted promos that somebody inifinitely more charismatic than you did over 30 years ago earns you fans and prestige in this sport.

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by David W-S on Jan 29, 2012 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

You'd enjoy pro wrestling then

Wrestlers are actually good at delivering scripted promos.

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by David W-S on Jan 29, 2012 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

the billy graham promo above is AWFUL.

he rambles on and on and doesn’t know how or when to end it.

by tha dude on Jan 29, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

i saw a doc on billy graham. kinda sad, but what the fuck, hogan did rip him off

it’s a very sad trend. after chael earned himself a title shot through twitter all the other fighters jumped on the band wagon…lets hope they don’t follow suit now

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Jan 29, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

sadder than "Beyond The Mat"?

Great movie if you haven’t seen it.

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

i've seen it

my friend was a big wrestling fan. i was never keen on the actual events but he had a bunch of wrestling docs and the ecw shoot interviews which were fascinating.

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Jan 29, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

brett hart screwed himself

owen rip

Dont act like your shit dont stink

by MegaReem on Jan 29, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Seen one of them and it was good. Have to catch the other.

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah thats a good one

old school

Dont act like your shit dont stink

by MegaReem on Jan 29, 2012 1:51 AM EST reply actions  

Champ Chael

Chael Sonnen is the Champion.

by Jonny Kush on Jan 29, 2012 1:52 AM EST reply actions  

i didnt know the word mesmerized was trade marked by a phony

sonnen is only a 10000 times better at it and has a 100000 times more right to say it considering he is in there fist fighting and putting it all on the line.

fake wrestlers are the biggest sham in human history

by dia mette on Jan 29, 2012 1:52 AM EST reply actions  

what does that say about Chael then?

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Tells me that

he rips off fake sham wrestlers, which suits him well.

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 29, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Chaels version was better

by broncos12405 on Jan 29, 2012 1:55 AM EST reply actions  

When he says "beat me if you can" at the end,

it was reminiscent of old TAZ ECW promo’s. Beat me if you can, survive if i let you."

I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence...

by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 29, 2012 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

Funny how he left that part out

Even Chael couldn’t use the survive line and keep a straight face after stealing a decision.

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by David W-S on Jan 29, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

i hope one of his comments will annoy dana and will cancel his title fight with AS

w/o him talking shit anywhere, he’s just the same as john fitch who wins by decisions and is f**kn plain boring to watch.. he was just lucky he submitted stann, stann is so overrated and has no experience on the mat w/wrestlers.. during their rematch w/silva, i wonder what round silva will finish the fight via stoppage, hope silva will punch him to death before the referee stops the fight

by rx queen on Jan 29, 2012 3:17 AM EST reply actions  

Fuck all the ducking talk. Chael is gonna do what he did las time but anderson knows this amd its in brazil. Chael will not knock anderson out and he will not submit him. But he uas the ability to wrestle fuck him for five rounds. Lutter mounted silva, c’mon man. That guy is selling hot dogs at mfc events. Ill put the house on it, the house i dont know the price of cuz im a diaz fan. Chael via desc. Or he gets fucking laid out, doubt it though, belfort was timid.

by Stockton Hello on Jan 29, 2012 3:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

good luck on that one

if that happens, pigs will all sprout wings and fly

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by hairybumcrack on Jan 29, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Geno

Billy Graham was before my time but that was a pleasure to watch. He was the koo-aid to Chael’s flavor-aid. His maruchan to top ramen. Sonnen’s gimmick seems kind of like a diluted version of Graham now that I’ve watched the two back to back. This the kinda investigative blogging I enjoy mi amigo

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by Pillow Pants on Jan 29, 2012 3:58 AM EST reply actions  

Sonnen > Graham

IMO, but also admit it was a premeditated rip off.

Hope he has a good security detail in Brazil, in the event he does win.

by Redneck Eck on Jan 29, 2012 4:08 AM EST reply actions  

I hope the security goes for a beer and lets the crowd rip his phoney ass into pieces too small to re-assemble.

I don’t get the psycology behind being a Chael fan or appreciating what he does but then I don’t get why people like wrestling “entertainment” or think criminals are cool. I use to like wrestling and thought gangsters were the awsome, but then I turned 12.

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by AriesKJJ on Jan 29, 2012 4:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Never seen you (Geno) this upset about something

on here like this. I had a different view, but you write such great shit (with limited content) that I’ve decided to changed my mind. Chael ripped that shit off, he should have gave a shour out to the guy… fight off he shouldn’t have been been celebrating like that after a fight many people thought he lost. Second off all he’s sending a weird message to new viewers.

“what’s this…guess i’ll watch it”
“they’re fighting… a lot more hugging than i thought there might be”
“yawn”
“I though the announcer said he lost?”
CHAEL GETS ON MIC
“O_o that was kind of corny”
“I knew this was fake”

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by In Rainbows on Jan 29, 2012 4:49 AM EST reply actions  

Who in the Blue hell is Geno Mrosko

Here’s a little story about a bitter little reporter who did too much gum flapping about things he doesn’t know about. Geno Mrosko, if you were a real reporter, you would do some research. Pro Wrestlers and the fighting industry in general are notorious for borrowing recycling and reusing gimmicks, material, promo’s whatever…. The fact that Chael Sonnen did this in my eyes??? Is brilliant. “Pop Quiz Hot Shot” see I borrowed that from Top Gun Noober, when was the last time you saw “Superstar” Billy Graham’s name let alone a full 3 minute promo in mainstream news? Yet today you see it everywhere. On a day, I’m not sure if your aware of this because again research doesn’t seem to be your strong point, which is VERY important to the WWE. ROYAL RUMBLE. Chael is one of the greatest talkers in any business and has publicly expressed his love for Pro Wrestling to be his inspiration. He’s Smart, he just secured himself, a VERY big spot in the company he will more then likely go work for once he is done knocking Anderson Silva’s Teeth out YET again in what is sure to be the biggest UFC event in History. Take Note’s THAT’S HOW YOU PROMOTE YOURSELF AND THE COMPANY, you take the bullet, because your the heel.

by Seemsuperhuman on Jan 29, 2012 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

A: pop quiz hot shot

Q what does dennis hopper say to keanu reeves in the movie “speed”

by tha dude on Jan 29, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

The 90's will make the 70's look like the 60's.

No wait that was from another Hopper movie. Which one?

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by Yan117 on Jan 29, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

he's not a real reporter and he barely qualifies to be classified as a writer

he doesn’t do any research nor does he ever have any original content. all of his posts are just copied from other sites and news sources. he never breaks a story or has exclusive news. he basically just reads other sites, waits for them to post their news, and then re-writes to avoid plagiarizing and gives credit to the original site so he’s not called a thief.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Jan 29, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

im not saying I liked the promo, but billy graham was his favourite wrestler I believe so he was clearly paying homage to call it ripping it off shows a general cluelessness.

by The_Devil_You_Know on Jan 29, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Watch Sonnen’s version and then watch a real pro do his job after the jump.

a real pro what? a real professional fake fighter? thanks for the laugh

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Jan 29, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

Here's the thing...

I think too often some of these writers are striving too hard to show off their pro-wrestling knowledge. I get it, there are similarities. I get it, many MMA fans are former and or current fans of pro-wrestling. But seriously? What does this article prove? Sonnen cut a pretty basic promo, using pretty basic terms, that has been copied and recreated many times over and over. Thats what pro-wrestling is all about, you get the same spots repeated over and over both physically and through spoken word. So who gives a shit if Chael cut a similar promo to Billy Graham and half the entire wrestling world. Give me a break.

by The_Comedian on Jan 29, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

America is the place of rip-offs

What’d ya expect brothers? ;-) Chael’s best at off-the-cuff commentating ..

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