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UFC Quick Quote: Shogun manager wants Mauricio Rua vs Tito Ortiz

Pictured: Mauricio "Shogun" Rua.

"I will get a lot of fire for saying (this), I have said it before, but personally I would love to see Shogun fighting Tito (Ortiz) in his retirement match. Because I always like to add a legend to his resume. Everybody bugs me because it seems like I'm trying for an easier fight. Obviously, in theory, fighting the higher ranked guy can be tougher but when Ryan Bader fought Tito, everybody thought it was an easy fight for Ryan and he ended up losing. Tito deserves a lot of respect. Tito called Shogun out a number of times in the past. We never started to mention a fight agianst him before he started to talk about it. We have the biggest respect for his legacy and that's the reason why we want to add his legacy to Shogun's resume. Obviously, it being his retirement fight, being the legend that he is, it's going to be a lot of P.R., a lot of marketing involved. But it's not up to us, it depends a lot on the UFC and what they want so let's see what happens."

-- Eduardo Alonso, manager for Mauricio Rua, tells Fighters Only he hopes to see his fighter matched up against Tito Ortiz in "The People's Champion's" final mixed martial arts (MMA) bout. Alonso admits outright that the pairing is somewhat odd. After all, "Shogun" is only two fights removed from being the UFC light heavyweight champion, having reached the peak of sport in his chosen weight class. Ortiz, meanwhile, has lost consecutive fights to Rashad Evans and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, respectively. Sure, he beat Ryan Bader back at UFC 132 on July 2, 2011. But that's his only win in the last five years. Is defeating the artist formerly known as "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" going to do much of anything for the Brazilian's career, even if it does add a legend to his resume? Maniacs, is Rua vs. Ortiz a fight you want to see?

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"Crooked banks will gladly give a loan today, so when you miss a payment they can take your home away" - Lupe Fiasco.

by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Jan 28, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

+2

UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2

by grapplefan on Jan 28, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

+3

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by The Pride on Jan 28, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You really have to give each other a ‘+’?

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 28, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

-1

I'm not a racist. I hate all people equally.

by unambig on Jan 28, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

-2

UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2

by grapplefan on Jan 28, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

-(3^10)

occupy my pants

by theoregonduck on Jan 28, 2012 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

-4

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Jan 28, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

-2

After a botched kick atempt in the AFC championship game vs the Patriots, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff attempted to commit suicide. Unfortunately, he could'nt kick the chair out from under himself...

by ClinchKing on Jan 28, 2012 4:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

shut up fago

One can't be Catholic, and a grown up

by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 28, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

my LHW bracket

Jones vs winner Evans vs Davis loser vs Machida Jackson vs Bader Nogueira vs Henderon 2 Rua vs Franklin Griffin vs Gustaffsson Ortiz vs Bonnar or Vera

by talkfight on Jan 28, 2012 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thiago Silva called.

Sig Bet:
3-2, Weidman over Maia - OilCheck
Condit over Diaz - Shivan"Diesel"Tiger

by Cruz Jackson on Jan 28, 2012 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thiago Silva back soon

Would be nice, wouldn’t happen with Griffin though. Henderson won’t fight Nog who has much less chance to beat him now imo. I don’t even know if Franklin still fights to be honest.

Machida v Evans Davis loser (makes so much sense, especially if Phil has a good showing if he loses).
Nogueira v Jackson if he loses (unlikely).
Rua v Gustaffson if he win, or Evans / Davis loser.

UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2

by grapplefan on Jan 28, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Thiago Silva VS Stephan Bonnar, Rua VS Evans/Davis loser

Nog/Gustaffson winner VS Bader/ Rampage winner/ Forrest Griffin VS Rich Franklin 2 on FX(If either still fight)

NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE

by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

HA HA

Shogun would destroy Tito but i get where he is coming from, it’s just not relevant to moving him up the ladder – paid, sure.

"Crooked banks will gladly give a loan today, so when you miss a payment they can take your home away" - Lupe Fiasco.

by Bigger Zino on Jan 28, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

its big pay with an easy win

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...

by Wasr 10 on Jan 28, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

If he wanted to fight Tito so bad,

maybe he should’ve laid down for Forrest.

Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner

by UFChamp on Jan 28, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

just do lil nog 2

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Jan 28, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Matchup-wise……this is probably one of the bigger name guys that Tito matched up halfway decent. Shogun’s weak wrestling and sometimes suspect cardio is something that Tito can go after. Having said that, I still thing Shogun beats him most of the time…..but one of the better matchups from Tito’s perspective.

by Snake_Pliskan on Jan 28, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

Shogun via TKO

In the first 3 min

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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 28, 2012 6:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Shogun would moidalize Tito

Why would he pick on such a weak opponent?

I'm not a racist. I hate all people equally.

by unambig on Jan 28, 2012 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

Because he’s just been in a 25 minute war with Henderson. Feed him Tito to get the ball rolling again.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 28, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

tune up fight..

come back from a loss or a surgery & Choose a fighter whose percieved as weaker/inferior for an easy win. Boxers have them all the time….of course boxers can also have 6-12 fights a year bcuz there isn’t a “league” with everyone’s dance card needing careful scheduling…is what it is..didn’t work out so well Bader tho..

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 28, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

as a FOX fight sure..

But not a PPV please! Drag out these 2 old warhorses & show every clip of Tito’s heyday with Mezger, Shamrock, Lidell and even Bader. Have the fucking Blue Angels fly over the arena and strike up tthe band, but if its a PPV I ain’t fucking buying!

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 28, 2012 3:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Tito doesn't even belong in the UFC ranks anymore

This is a waste of a fight if it happens Shogun would destroy Tito.

by haymaker85 on Jan 28, 2012 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Shogun's manager obviously wasn't allowed to sleep with Jenna

NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE

by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

If shogun shows up pudgy looking again

I will put $$$ on tito, yup I said it, tito will accept thks fight

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by THORAZINE on Jan 28, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

This fight don't make sense. Shoguns lost a very close fight to Hendo.

Thiago Silva vs Shogun UFC Rio next. Ando vs Chael and vitor vs wandy.

Sig Bet:
3-2, Weidman over Maia - OilCheck
Condit over Diaz - Shivan"Diesel"Tiger

by Cruz Jackson on Jan 28, 2012 4:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

UFC RIO

Junior Dos Santos VS Alistair Overeem
Anderson Silva VS Chael Sonnen
Shogun VS Bonnar/ Thiago Silva winner
Belfort VS Wand
Edson Barboza vs Gleison Tibau

NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE

by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Barboza v Pettis if he beats Lauzon

Palhares v Chael / Bisping loser (lol)
Browne / Griggs v Kongo / Hunt

UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2

by grapplefan on Jan 28, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

NO!

We must see Barboza vs a grappler! lol but that would be awesome.
Browne/Griggs winner VS Werdum provided he beats Big Country

NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE

by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, that's a great point. get it done

I think Gleison might be finding some form again … just my preference not to see one of them take a backwards step.

UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2

by grapplefan on Jan 28, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Furthermore I think Tibau has taken down all his opponents in the UFC before

Took down
Tyson Griffin
Joe Stevenson
Terry Etim
Kurt Pellegrino
Nick Diaz
Uno
Josh Neer
Guillard
Clementi
Stevens
Jim Miller
I mean if Edson Barboza can stuff his Tibau’s takedowns with ease, alot of the top guys are gonna have trouble as he would only continue to get better

NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE

by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he'd be a monster

I hope he doesn’t get neutralised like Pettis did. He seems to have great balance and reactions, not that Etim or Mike Lullo (the jitz guy, I think it was him) are power wrestlers who’ll close the distance and keep pressuring him.

UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2

by grapplefan on Jan 28, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, but he looked a little subjective to the combos Ross Pearson was putting together

Hopefully he continues to get better and grow. I want to see him challenge for the Lightweight Title

NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE

by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Ross put the pressure on

I think Edgar’s style would be easier for him to deal with depending on the gameplan even though he’s probably the better boxer and harder to time.

I just think if they stand Edgar would have to cover a lot of distance to get away from kicks especially.

UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2

by grapplefan on Jan 28, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I would love that. But would they put the MW and HW titles on the same card?

MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.

by The Ruiner on Jan 28, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It'd be groundbreaking, definitely would shock me

NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE

by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No. They wouldnt. It's too big now. They can't combo titles anymore.

Only the bottom three weight classes can be combo’d

Sig Bet:
3-2, Weidman over Maia - OilCheck
Condit over Diaz - Shivan"Diesel"Tiger

by Cruz Jackson on Jan 28, 2012 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Me too.

It’s always an easy fight to build up and promote when it 1-1 in an ultimate rubber match.

As a competitor, I’m sure deep down both of them want to settle the score.

by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Jan 28, 2012 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd rather not

"I just want to be known as the best ever, is that too much to ask?" - BJ Penn

by Hushh on Jan 28, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

i could see lil nog getting hurt. shogun steps in vs gustafson.

which i think would be a terrible matchup but would be great for the fans.

by letstalkmma on Jan 28, 2012 6:17 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Is rather not see him fight tito. I’d say loser of Evans/Davis. Or winner of the page/ bader fight.

by zesotheclown on Jan 28, 2012 7:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Lateral move

PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING is FUCKING RETARDED

by Nokimono on Jan 28, 2012 8:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I would much rather see Shogun rematch little Nog or Page if he gets past Bader.

by WandyGuy on Jan 28, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

It's the Ryan Bader strategy

call out somebody you should be able to beat. In Shogun’s case, he should be able to get it done, unlike Bader.

by sudnvictory on Jan 28, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions  


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