UFC Quick Quote: Shogun manager wants Mauricio Rua vs Tito Ortiz
"I will get a lot of fire for saying (this), I have said it before, but personally I would love to see Shogun fighting Tito (Ortiz) in his retirement match. Because I always like to add a legend to his resume. Everybody bugs me because it seems like I'm trying for an easier fight. Obviously, in theory, fighting the higher ranked guy can be tougher but when Ryan Bader fought Tito, everybody thought it was an easy fight for Ryan and he ended up losing. Tito deserves a lot of respect. Tito called Shogun out a number of times in the past. We never started to mention a fight agianst him before he started to talk about it. We have the biggest respect for his legacy and that's the reason why we want to add his legacy to Shogun's resume. Obviously, it being his retirement fight, being the legend that he is, it's going to be a lot of P.R., a lot of marketing involved. But it's not up to us, it depends a lot on the UFC and what they want so let's see what happens."
-- Eduardo Alonso, manager for Mauricio Rua, tells Fighters Only he hopes to see his fighter matched up against Tito Ortiz in "The People's Champion's" final mixed martial arts (MMA) bout. Alonso admits outright that the pairing is somewhat odd. After all, "Shogun" is only two fights removed from being the UFC light heavyweight champion, having reached the peak of sport in his chosen weight class. Ortiz, meanwhile, has lost consecutive fights to Rashad Evans and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, respectively. Sure, he beat Ryan Bader back at UFC 132 on July 2, 2011. But that's his only win in the last five years. Is defeating the artist formerly known as "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" going to do much of anything for the Brazilian's career, even if it does add a legend to his resume? Maniacs, is Rua vs. Ortiz a fight you want to see?
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I'd much rather see shogun vs the winner of page/bader
occupy my pants
by theoregonduck on Jan 28, 2012 3:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2
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UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 28, 2012 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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by ClinchKing on Jan 28, 2012 4:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
shut up fago
One can't be Catholic, and a grown up
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 28, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
my LHW bracket
Jones vs winner Evans vs Davis loser vs Machida Jackson vs Bader Nogueira vs Henderon 2 Rua vs Franklin Griffin vs Gustaffsson Ortiz vs Bonnar or Vera
by talkfight on Jan 28, 2012 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thiago Silva called.
Sig Bet:
3-2, Weidman over Maia - OilCheck
Condit over Diaz - Shivan"Diesel"Tiger
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 28, 2012 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thiago Silva back soon
Would be nice, wouldn’t happen with Griffin though. Henderson won’t fight Nog who has much less chance to beat him now imo. I don’t even know if Franklin still fights to be honest.
Machida v Evans Davis loser (makes so much sense, especially if Phil has a good showing if he loses).
Nogueira v Jackson if he loses (unlikely).
Rua v Gustaffson if he win, or Evans / Davis loser.
UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2
Thiago Silva VS Stephan Bonnar, Rua VS Evans/Davis loser
Nog/Gustaffson winner VS Bader/ Rampage winner/ Forrest Griffin VS Rich Franklin 2 on FX(If either still fight)
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
HA HA
Shogun would destroy Tito but i get where he is coming from, it’s just not relevant to moving him up the ladder – paid, sure.
"Crooked banks will gladly give a loan today, so when you miss a payment they can take your home away" - Lupe Fiasco.
its big pay with an easy win
Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...
If he wanted to fight Tito so bad,
maybe he should’ve laid down for Forrest.
Tito Ortiz = BJ Penn = Overrated, excuse-making frontrunner
just do lil nog 2
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Jan 28, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Matchup-wise……this is probably one of the bigger name guys that Tito matched up halfway decent. Shogun’s weak wrestling and sometimes suspect cardio is something that Tito can go after. Having said that, I still thing Shogun beats him most of the time…..but one of the better matchups from Tito’s perspective.
Shogun via TKO
In the first 3 min
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 28, 2012 6:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shogun would moidalize Tito
Why would he pick on such a weak opponent?
I'm not a racist. I hate all people equally.
tune up fight..
come back from a loss or a surgery & Choose a fighter whose percieved as weaker/inferior for an easy win. Boxers have them all the time….of course boxers can also have 6-12 fights a year bcuz there isn’t a “league” with everyone’s dance card needing careful scheduling…is what it is..didn’t work out so well Bader tho..
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 28, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
as a FOX fight sure..
But not a PPV please! Drag out these 2 old warhorses & show every clip of Tito’s heyday with Mezger, Shamrock, Lidell and even Bader. Have the fucking Blue Angels fly over the arena and strike up tthe band, but if its a PPV I ain’t fucking buying!
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 28, 2012 3:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Tito doesn't even belong in the UFC ranks anymore
This is a waste of a fight if it happens Shogun would destroy Tito.
Shogun's manager obviously wasn't allowed to sleep with Jenna
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions
If shogun shows up pudgy looking again
I will put $$$ on tito, yup I said it, tito will accept thks fight
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by THORAZINE on Jan 28, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This fight don't make sense. Shoguns lost a very close fight to Hendo.
Thiago Silva vs Shogun UFC Rio next. Ando vs Chael and vitor vs wandy.
Sig Bet:
3-2, Weidman over Maia - OilCheck
Condit over Diaz - Shivan"Diesel"Tiger
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 28, 2012 4:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
UFC RIO
Junior Dos Santos VS Alistair Overeem
Anderson Silva VS Chael Sonnen
Shogun VS Bonnar/ Thiago Silva winner
Belfort VS Wand
Edson Barboza vs Gleison Tibau
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Barboza v Pettis if he beats Lauzon
Palhares v Chael / Bisping loser (lol)
Browne / Griggs v Kongo / Hunt
UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2
NO!
We must see Barboza vs a grappler! lol but that would be awesome.
Browne/Griggs winner VS Werdum provided he beats Big Country
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
yes, that's a great point. get it done
I think Gleison might be finding some form again … just my preference not to see one of them take a backwards step.
UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2
Furthermore I think Tibau has taken down all his opponents in the UFC before
Took down
Tyson Griffin
Joe Stevenson
Terry Etim
Kurt Pellegrino
Nick Diaz
Uno
Josh Neer
Guillard
Clementi
Stevens
Jim Miller
I mean if Edson Barboza can stuff his Tibau’s takedowns with ease, alot of the top guys are gonna have trouble as he would only continue to get better
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he'd be a monster
I hope he doesn’t get neutralised like Pettis did. He seems to have great balance and reactions, not that Etim or Mike Lullo (the jitz guy, I think it was him) are power wrestlers who’ll close the distance and keep pressuring him.
UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2
Yea, but he looked a little subjective to the combos Ross Pearson was putting together
Hopefully he continues to get better and grow. I want to see him challenge for the Lightweight Title
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Ross put the pressure on
I think Edgar’s style would be easier for him to deal with depending on the gameplan even though he’s probably the better boxer and harder to time.
I just think if they stand Edgar would have to cover a lot of distance to get away from kicks especially.
UFC ON FOX 2 = Evans KO2, Sonnen UD, Weidman UD, Dunham UD, Einemo SUB2, Roop UD, Oliveira UD, Roller KO2, Beltran KO3, Camozzi SUB2
Man, I would love that. But would they put the MW and HW titles on the same card?
MMA is like a puzzle, it's just a matter of finding a solution to each situation.
It'd be groundbreaking, definitely would shock me
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. John Loceires via Unanimous Decision.
I'm coming, BEWARE
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 28, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
No. They wouldnt. It's too big now. They can't combo titles anymore.
Only the bottom three weight classes can be combo’d
Sig Bet:
3-2, Weidman over Maia - OilCheck
Condit over Diaz - Shivan"Diesel"Tiger
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 28, 2012 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Me too.
It’s always an easy fight to build up and promote when it 1-1 in an ultimate rubber match.
As a competitor, I’m sure deep down both of them want to settle the score.
by xMMAxTYSONxMMA on Jan 28, 2012 7:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i could see lil nog getting hurt. shogun steps in vs gustafson.
which i think would be a terrible matchup but would be great for the fans.
by letstalkmma on Jan 28, 2012 6:17 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Is rather not see him fight tito. I’d say loser of Evans/Davis. Or winner of the page/ bader fight.
by zesotheclown on Jan 28, 2012 7:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lateral move
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING is FUCKING RETARDED
by Nokimono on Jan 28, 2012 8:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's the Ryan Bader strategy
call out somebody you should be able to beat. In Shogun’s case, he should be able to get it done, unlike Bader.

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