Vitor Belfort says Dan Henderson ducked Anthony Johnson, Hendo says steroids are killing Belfort’s brain cells
by Adam Guillen Jr. on Jan 25, 2012 8:00 PM EST
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Them fightin' words!
Ultimate Fighting Championships (UFC) veterans Dan Henderson and Vitor Belfort have a history that dates back to their days competing "Far East" in PRIDE FC, Japan's longtime premiere mixed martial arts (MMA) organization.
The two went toe-to-toe in 2006 at PRIDE 32 in Las Vegas, Nevada, and when it was all said and done, "Hendo" walked away with a unanimous decision victory.
Now, it seems that the two are engaging in another battle, this time, they are throwing verbal jabs at one another.
Fresh off his first round submission win over Anthony Johnson at UFC 142: "Aldo vs. Mendes" back on Jan. 14, 2012, Belfort tells Tatame.com that he took the bout against Johnson because many fighters refused to fight "Rumble," including Dan Henderson.
"Hendo," meanwhile, also told the Brazilian MMA news outlet that he was never offered a fight with Johnson and and also takes a jab at Belfort's past illegal substance issues.
Make the jump to see the mud start slinging:
"He's a strong guy, feared in UFC. Dan Henderson refused to fight him, everybody declined it. He's a guy who's hard to match-up in this division, but I accepted it at a glance. I have never feared any man... I thought it was good challenge and I said yes. I showed how I value the fans and the UFC."
Not true, according to the former PRIDE FC Middleweight and Welterweight champion Dan Henderson, who says Vitor's neurons are getting destroyed by steroids.
"That's not true, this fight was never offered to me. Steroids might be killing Vitor's neurons, he's getting crazy to say something like that."
In 2006, after their bout at PRIDE 32: "Real Deal," Vitor Belfort tested positive for the banned substance 4-Hydroxytestoerone. Even though "The Phenom" claimed the positive result stemmed from an over-the-counter supplement, the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) suspended Belfort for nine months and fined him $10,000.
That didn't stop Henderson from taking a jab at "The Phenom" in defense of his ducking accusations.
A future rematch between the two longtime MMA veterans would be a very nice treat for fans around the globe. Furthermore, weight issues would be nonexistent, seeing as how both have competed at middleweight and light heavyweight.
For the time being, Henderson is currently playing the waiting game and anxiously awaiting the results of the UFC on Fox 2 main event between Rashad Evans and Phil Davis to see just where in line he stands for a chance to contend for the UFC's light heavyweight title, which is currently held by Jon Jones.
Belfort, on the other hand, will next participate as a coach for The Ultimate Fighter (TUF): Brazil and will then tangle with opposing coach Wanderlei Silva later in the year.
What's your take Maniacs, hitting below the belt on "Hendo's" part? Or is all fair in love and MMA?
Sound off!
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Hendo would murder u
hes the better couture
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nice one/ id say randys a little smarter in a fight!
But yea dan’s a beast!
They already fought and Hendo didn't murder him.
Hendo is known for saying stupid things and being hypocritical but in a sort of kind in gentle non shit talking way.
An example of this would be him pretending that Andy was “ducking him” and faking an injury like the UFC doesn’t know what the doctors see. Silva whopped his ass but Hendo turned down Lil Nog and Lil Nog beat Hendo so that seems more like ducking someone than what he accused Silva of doin. I know Lil Nog doesn’t really deserve a fight against Hendo at this point but you could argue the same for Hendo getting a title shot at 185.
Either way Dan is starting to sound like that grumpy old man who chases kid of his lawn.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Hendo has gotten better with age
Vitor just struggled with fatty Mcrumble
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You mean beat a guy who outweighed him by 11 lbs in the 1st round?
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
Apple Crumble was kicking his ass until he gassed
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Not really, landed one good shot.
If you’re gonna hate on that then I could easily hate on Hendo getting dominated by a 170 pounder for 5 rounds the last time he fought at MW. Isn’t hating fun?
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
except he he didn't get dominated for 5 rounds. he gassed, but is clearly a more dominat fighter than shields when fresh
in fact, there isn’t a fighter in the world that can dominate a fresh hendo. not anderson, not fedor, and certainly not vitor" the mental midget" belfort.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Excuses... my bad. I meant dominated for 4 rounds.
Getting gassed is a part of the fight game. Rumble has a huge weight advantage on Vitor and Vitor spent more energy making that cut so it is what it is.
If you want to talk about MMA math some more then lets talk about why Vitor got a shot again Silva… for KOing Franklin in the first round. Someone who Hendo couldn’t decisively beat even with the head butts and eye poke.
You’re riding Hendo’s dick a lil too much man. He doesn’t get gassed after the first round in all of his fights like you like to pretend and Silva did dominate his ass. All Hendo did the first round was stall the fight.
I can agree that Hendo wasn’t 100% in that Shields fight but then you have to agree that even a “fresh” Hendo couldn’t beat Anderson or Jones. Hell, Shogun was more gassed than Hendo was in their fight which should have been a draw.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
If you can make the "gas" excuse then I can play that game as well but even better. lol
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
don't comment on your own rants, its juvenile. you are riding vitor HAAAAARRD Hank.
if the guy’s claim to fame is finishing franklin with shots to the back of the head. then he isn’t shit. i’m sorry, but if that is all you got then go home. it isn’t mma math hank. hendo beat the crap out of vitor. it happened. it really did, and you are trying to say that reality doesn’t matter anymore because your mma math negates it. sorry, doesn’t work that way. the truth is that vitor has never beat an elite level fighter. franklin was past his prime and finished illegally. hendo can beat anderson and jones, just because he didn’t beat anderson the 1 time they fought doesn’t mean anderson wins 9 out of 10 and unless you are a fortune teller like wolley, you have no idea what will happen if jones and hendo fight.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
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by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 26, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
You don't know what you're talking about
Vitor and AJ both walked into the cage at around 200 lbs. You don’t think Vitor rehydrates after a weigh in? Johnson was close to the weight, he just didn’t make the cut correctly and his body locked up so he rehydrated BEFORE the weigh in. They both got back up to around 200 lbs, Vitor might have given up 3-4 lbs. Stfu.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 26, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
I think it was 6lbs but you're right, it wasnt a factor.
Johnsonville had his ass handed to him decisively. As for Johnson winning up until then, I’ll have to watch it again cause I don’t remember that. Vitor looked a little sloppy but that’s all I’ll say. But to say Vitor had a disadvantage because he made weight is retarded. He cut properly, which should have him around 100% @ fight time.
BTW, this wasn’t all directed towards you, O Damn.
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by Nokimono on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i agree
Vitor wishes he could’ve had a career as prestigious as hollywood hendo
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
that's ignorant randall
Vitor’s sister’s kidnapping and eventual murder really destroyed his career. It’s a miracle that he’s still relevant and top 10 over 15 tears since the beginning.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Alright , alright , fair enough
But Hendo is beyond reproach he’s a real version of Randy couture . I think Vitor is being a cunt here . I just really think Hendo is a all time top 5 pound for pound fighter .
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 3:12 AM EST up reply actions
To me Hendo is top 10 all time, not 5 but it's a matter of opinion obviously.
I honestly think that Randy could have beaten Hendo. I know that they never would have fought but if Randy could work some of those takedowns.. who knows.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
anything is possible
Couture wasn’t considered number 1 at any time , he was too inconsistent . I remember seeing Hendo in pride and thinking holy shit !
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 3:33 AM EST up reply actions
Hendo was also pretty inconsistent in Pride
if Hendo focused more on his wrestling he would be a much more complete fighter with KO power, something Randy wasn’t.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Prior to retirement, I think Randy would fight anybody for the right price.
Plus I don’t think him and Dan were exactly tight after the whole business deals falling apart situation.
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they were almost the same weight
on fight day
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How Ironic
Seeing as Henderson has been using doctor prescribed steroids for years now. By his own admission. Vitor is a roidhead, that much is clear, it’s just funny coming from Dan
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who gives a fuck about trt !
Everyone is on roids
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 3:12 AM EST up reply actions
Trt isnt roids
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 26, 2012 4:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow your facts are off
Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.
no
hes correct
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Are you trolling me or are you ignorant as fuck ?
(sorry I don’t know everyone yet)
Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They're elitist. Constantly telling us what is or isn't true. Or what did or didn't happen.
TRT is a legitimate medically procedure
its pretty common for males over the age of 40(ie Dan Hendo) uve prolly seen commercials for Low T, thats a form of TRT. its not steriods, its more that Hendo is old as hell and doesnt have the testosterone that a 25 year old fighter has. As long as he is within legal limits, hes doing nothing wrong
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It's not about wrong or right.
Testosterone is the definition of an anabolic steroid.
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lol yes it is.
TRT is medically administered exogenous testosterone. Testosterone is a steroid.
God you are a retard
hendo hendled vitor when they fought and vitor was roided up. hendo isn't interested in fighting up and comers. he is elite level.
he wants title shots.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
He got 2 UFC title shots back to back and lost both.
Then made excuses after them… the same excuses. I should have done this, should have done that. Pressed the action more. Yadda yadda, said this after losing to Rampage so you’d think he would have done so against Silva but nope. Lost even worse to him and made the same excuses.
I’m not even a Hendo hater, I like the guy but I’m just stating facts. I think he deserves a shot at the 205 belt but not at 185 jsut because he lost to a 170 pounder the last time he fought there.
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#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
hank, talking about what he could have done better to win the fight is not making excuses. it's called learning from your mistakes. maybe that is why anderson doesn't want to fight him again???
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
That's the point... he made the SAME excuses!
He should have learned… you’re right about that.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson already beat him and it was only competitive for one round
Hendo got whoopped by Shields for God’s sake why would he deserve a rematch with the pound for pound best? Silva would simply dance for a few rounds until Hendo gasses then beat him again…your argument is pointless.
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by rooseveltdunn on Jan 26, 2012 8:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Vitor would smash Hendo
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by wooly shambler on Jan 25, 2012 8:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Last time when Hendo was young and semi quick
??
At 185 or 205 with dulce , vitor lights him up . Without trt Hendo isn’t even UFC worthy at this point
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by wooly shambler on Jan 25, 2012 9:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
can you really say that for sure?
After a botched kick atempt in the AFC championship game vs the Patriots, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff attempted to commit suicide. Unfortunately, he could'nt kick the chair out from under himself...
by ClinchKing on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
this talk coming from the guy who is signed to fight porcelain jaw wandy.
After a botched kick atempt in the AFC championship game vs the Patriots, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff attempted to commit suicide. Unfortunately, he could'nt kick the chair out from under himself...
by ClinchKing on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Fuck this sb nation app
sorry wooly wasn’t ment to be a reply to you
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by ClinchKing on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
hendo was quick enough to tag fejioua and shogun. somthing the "ultra quick" machida couldn't do as well as hendo.
hendo is better than vitor in every area of the game at this point. vitor is a mental midget.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Machida beat shogun already and that was the best shogun we've ever seen in the UFC .
Machida also tagged bones which Hendo will never do. I know vitor isn’t liked but he’s 3 times faster than Hendo and I don’t give 5 fucks what Dan did to him before at a different weight when vitor was a different fighter . Henderson is trt and a right hand and that’s it anymore .
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by wooly shambler on Jan 25, 2012 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
um wooly, the hate is strong in you. what makes you think vitor is any good at all?
he loses against top competition every time he steps up. he is a mental midget. hendo beat the crap out of him, winning every round, on every judges card, and winning one round 10-8 when they fought in pride. that =asswhoopin son.
unless you are a fortune teller, you can’t possibly know what will happen when hendo and jones fight. also, it is physically impossible for vitor to be 3 times faster than hendo.
i think the best shogun we ever saw was in the hendo fight. he did something that very few people would have done and redeemed himself imho by putting on fight of the decade.
vitor is liked by fans, but he just said some stupid shit. he is obviously trying to build up his win over rumble by making the guy seem badder than he really is. so naturally he picks a fighter way better than him(hendo) and says that hendo was scared to fight rumble. this is what fighters do when they don’t have the skills to be elite level fighters on their own.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't hate Dan
I just think his fans and viewers think he is more than a wildly swinging brawler soaked with testosterone that has a good chin .
He’s really not .
And I don’t care what he did to vitor in pride but well prolly never see them fight again .
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by wooly shambler on Jan 25, 2012 10:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
wooly he has normal test levels. a wild brawler wouldn't outstike strikers like fejioua and shogun
he has tremendous striking skill. his aproach isn’t wild either. he is the most predictable striker since liddle and he still lands big shots against great strikers. that implies he has great skill. and u may not care that hendo already beat the crap out of vitor during vitor’s second comeback, but it did happen.
vitor is not as good as hendo. mainly because he lacks the mental fortitude that all elite level fighters have.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Well said
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 25, 2012 11:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I read opinions
But okay well have to agree to disagree here
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by wooly shambler on Jan 26, 2012 1:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
vitor doesnt even deserve a fight hendo
who is a top 5 mma fighter of all time
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
*a fight with
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Hendo finished Fedor and was about 1-2 punches shy of finishing Shogun, who actually kinda looked out for a bit.
All of that since the last time he fought Vitor. Vitor’s chin is suspect, and Hendo’s is made of granite. It may only be my opinion, but if they fought again I think Hendo would win by KO.
by naturalshadow on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hendo has been dropped more times than Vitor. Vitor's chin is fine.
Hendo couldn’t finish Shogun and nearly ended up finished himself. Hendo was saved by the bell whereas Shogun got up immediately after getting put down, went for a sub, pushed Hendo against the cage, got him down and started pounding on him.
Shogun never “looked out”. Watch it again.
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LOL at Henderson ducking Anyone
And didn’t Vitor duck Okami?
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How about forgetting?
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rejecting the duck?
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by hairybumcrack on Jan 25, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
LOL at Henderson ducking Anyone
He just ducked Lil Nog. For a guy who pretends he deserves an unjustified shot and thinks others duck him he sure doesn’t back up his talk with his actions. Good fighter no doubt but very hypocritical.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Fighting lil nog
is taking 5 steps backward, only a noob would take that fight
Win or Lose, Still a Big Fan of Vitor Belfort
I made that point already but why does Hendo think he deserves at shot at the MW title against Silva when
he lost to a WW Jake Shields in his last MW fight?
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
He earned it before he left the first time?
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Very true
And he’s only got a few more fights. He’s not here to bide his time. He knows his value to the fans (ala UFC 100, much to my chagrin) and he can put on a hell of a fight against A. Silva, and may impress against JBJ… but of course that’s a long shot.
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by MMAisfuntowatch on Jan 25, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
He earned it at 205 yeah but not 185 after losing to Shields who's 170.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Can't argue with that
But I saw nothing but a bad weight cut really affect Hendo’s performance.
He nearly murdered Shields before completely gassing before the end of the first round. And he still survived.
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by MMAisfuntowatch on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Yep, and had an impressive win against Tito.
Beating Tito wasn’t what was impressive, it’s how he did it. He did a better job than Rashad just did and that was a Tito with a full training camp.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
yea but from like 7 years ago
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Oh snap, going after the sig.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
If Kampmann can stand up after the fight
ill b surprised
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He's a better striker than Alves...
And grappler…he’s just all around better…and Alves will feel the meat
Ducking and accepting a pointless fight are two completely different things...
A fight with lil nog does nada for hendo at this point…
by dragonassault on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's my point...
He pretended that Silva was ducking him when he’s not and Hendo’s not even the #1 contender at MW.
I pointed out that since Hendo was making this ridiculous claim when Silva whooped his ass the 1st fight then I could easily say that he’s ducking Lil Nog and it would be more justified because Nog actually won their 1st fight as opposed to Hendo vs Silva.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
hendo doesn’t duck anyone he’s a true man’s man, a man without fear.
by steady2wheels on Jan 25, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hendo >>> Vitor
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 25, 2012 8:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Rip him apart??? That will be the day when dan is ripped apart.
Maybe early stoppage due to illegal strike from Vitor,,, But Dan gets dominated by no man. Except maybe Jon Jones!
Hendo won the first round
And took a sick knee in the second that pretty much spelled the end, but I wouldn’t call that domination. Of course, it’s hard to argue against a finish…
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by MMAisfuntowatch on Jan 25, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
i understand the silva bicker... was about to add him with Jon... But like MMA said he fought him well in the first..
Either way guy said vitor would rip dan apart which not even Anderson did!
Vitor did to Rich Franklin what Hendo coudln't do.
I know, I know… MMA math. Hendo won a dec over Vitor but I could see things change in a rematch. Hendo pretends Silva ducked him but then he turned around and ducked Lil Nog. Lil Nog is jsut as deserving of fighting Hendo as Hendo is at getting a MW title shot at this point.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hendo has a granite chin and Vitor only has one round of gas these days.
The same UD would happen 95 times out of 100.
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Hendo would be a fool to take a fight with Lil Nog
Hendo’s UFC record for his last 3 fights: Win win win. He beat two former champs (Franklin and Shogun) and the KO of the century over Bisping (who was close to a title shot at the time)
Lil Nog is a mid-carder right now. His most impressive UFC win is over Tito… He won a split decision he didn’t earn and let’s not forget his uninspired loss to Davis.
This is a lose lose for Hendo. A win brings him no where. A loss spells the end of his title aspirations. It’s smart of Joe Silva to try to put it together, considering the history. But UFC fans (the majority) don’t know what Price FC is. They don’t care. This isn’t some “dream” rematch for them.
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by MMAisfuntowatch on Jan 25, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
I would rather see the Lil Nog/Janitor rubber match, TBH.
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I don't wanna see Lil Nog fight the same guy for like the 10th fight in a row...
Brilz, Bader, Davis, Ortiz….the same damn opponent
Hendo is a hypocrite. I know the Lil Nog isn’t deserving of Hendo at this time but neither is Hendo in a rematch with Anderson when the last time Hendo fought at MW he was beat by Shields who’s a 170 pounder.
I know that Lil Nog isn’t deserving but neither is Hendo, Silva smashed him the first time and Lil Nog beat Hendo as well so if I were to go the route Hendo has with his “ducking” bullshit it would be more justified simply because he lost to Lil Bog and won’t avenge it. Get what I’m saying? This is all a response to Hendo’s ducking talk bullshit.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Personally i thought he drew with Shogun.
He was getting his face pounded in near the end..
Also Ace was robbed.
Hendo has great wins but lets not talk shit.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
You keep on bringing up Lil Nog, Hank.
Why the hell should Hendo accept that fight right now. From the time it was offered, if he waits less than two weeks, he would know the result of Rashad’s fight and if he will know whether he ends up being matched up in a title fight. It isn’t like Rashad sitting 14 months to get the shot against a reconstructed Shogun. It’s 14 days and if you don’t the logic in that (and yes it is logic, not cowardice) then you are a fool.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Jan 25, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
You missed the point but you're not the only one so I'll repost why here.
Hendo is a hypocrite. I know the Lil Nog isn’t deserving of Hendo at this time but neither is Hendo in a rematch with Anderson when the last time Hendo fought at MW he was beat by Shields who’s a 170 pounder.
I know that Lil Nog isn’t deserving but neither is Hendo, Silva smashed him the first time and Lil Nog beat Hendo as well so if I were to go the route Hendo has with his “ducking” bullshit it would be more justified simply because he lost to Lil Bog and won’t avenge it. Get what I’m saying? This is all a response to Hendo’s ducking talk bullshit.
Legit P4P Rankings.
#1: Silva (destroys top guys making them look bad for years)
#2: Jones (destroys everybody in front of him making it look easy)
#3: Aldo (tears up people whenever he's not too cautious)
#4: Edgar (should be fighting at 145 but beats everyone at 155)
#5: GSP (long time champ who can't stop guys that others can in the 1st rd or who aren't blown up LWs which isn't so dominating... hence P4P)
by Hank_Mardukas on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I get what your saying
but I don’t think it has anything to do with hypocrisy or ducking fights at all. I do see where you are coming from but he has championship fights in his sight at the late stage in his career. If Rashad loses, then Hendo most liekly has his fight booked so I have no problem with him waiting. I beliebe there was a thread about Dan where he said he’d at least wait and see what happened on Fox. If Rashad wins and gets the shot at Jones, then Dan needs a dancing partner. If they reoffer it at that point and he still avoids it, then you are 100% valid. Thanks for your reply. Interested on your perspective on this.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Jan 26, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
ya starr, after his gas tank ran out... he shouldn't have been at mw then either
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 8:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
nothing like fighting a rampage at 205 only to move down and fight the best 185er we have ever seen.
Cut dan some slack here. Those are 2 completely different matchups!
agreed
It also seemed like a turning point in his career where he shouldn’t cut that much weight anymore. After that the new Hendo emerged.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 8:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ARE YOU SERIOUS!?!?
Most middleweights also aren’t at the top of the game when they’re pushing 40 and the weight cuts get harder and harder and your body doesn’t react as well
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 8:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Am I serious about what?
That most MWs probably cut from around 205lbs?
by Starr788 on Jan 25, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
most young 185ers/ fighters. The older Hendo gets the harder it becomes to go to 185...
thats not to say he couldn’t though.. it just would not be the best dan!
letstalk, atleast u get where I'm coming from
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 9:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hendo is a world class athlete...he's an exception
I’m not going to measure him against any other MW because he doesn’t fit the norm at all…
He probably can make the cut, he comes from a wrasslin background so that comes almost natural to him…but I guess after years of cutting weight t it gets tedious so I can understand why he doesn’t want to do it…but he’s said he’d make the cut just to fight Anderson, so that’s proof he can
Hendo already said he would only cut for Anderson
He gasses bad enough at 205.
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I'm not disagreeing about him being able to make 185
I know he can do that easily. Its his cardio at 185 that he can’t make happen at that weight. 205 he has cardio for 3 balls to the wall rounds. I almost hope Rashad loses and if Hendo can get past Jones then call Silva out for a Light Heavyweight Title fight. That would be an epic way to retire!
With this whole Belfort deal tho I think Vitor is just trying to take a page out Sonnens book. He’s probably upset that Bisping got the shot and not him. He’s probably calling out Hendo hoping it gets turned into the next #1 contender match.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 10:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
True true...I agree with all of that
Hendo vs Silva for the LHW strap would be an epic way to retire..for both of them
Vitor is an odd dude, and is a bit delusional, as is Hendo, when it comes to fighting Anderson again…he better not get another shot at the title unless he beats Wandy, then a guy like Munoz or Okami, or Chael…someone who is competing at the highest level in the MW division….not Akiyama (coming off 2 losses) or Anthony Johnson (someone who had not yet reached the top of the WW division before making the jump to MW) or Wanderlei (who was designed specifically to get spanked by Vitor)
I kinda feel bad for Akiyama, he's a sacraficial lamb
They keep feeding him to the lions.
Man, Hendo vs Silva for the LHW title superbowl weekend next year would be insane
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hendo would have to beat Jon Jones for that to happen though
But my gosh…if it were guaranteed that fight would be made, I would cheer for Hendo against Jones…and I never cheer for Jones’ opponent…
ya I'm not a big fan of Silva or Jones
Don’t get me wrong, they’re amazing fighters and always fun to watch. I might just have a thing for underdogs.
But if Hendo beat Jones and Silva, I can’t think of any better way for a fighter to end an already amazing career. Retiring as the best fighter in the world!
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, well...Jones will buss him up if they fight
As will Anderson…but it makes for a good pay per view!
I was just fucking with u
I thought it was common knowledge that most fighters walk around 15-25 lbs the day of the fight.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
those are some small ass fighters...
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he gave anderson one of his toughest fights. he was the first guy to win a round on all three judges cards
he decided to strike with anderson and went down swinging, then ate two massive knees( still didn’t get ko’d) and eventually got subbed. it was a good fight. until sonnen, it was one of silva’s only competitive fights.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
And people say that wrestlers aren’t Silvas weakness…
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Haha that fight lasted a bit more than round and it's one of Anderson's toughest fights?
Haha…that’s hilarious, sorry…I couldn’t tell if you were serious at first, I shouldn’t laugh.
Look….Hendo NEVER had Anderson in trouble…do not dispute this, there was never a threat of Anderson being finished…if Hendo can lay on another Anderson for an entire round, come out in the second round “gassed” and offer absolutely NOTHING for Anderson then he doesn’t belong in the ring with him.
You got it right John, at MW Hendo has no chance. At LHW I give Hendo a huge advantage though, He would break Vitor there.
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John G is right , at 185 especially now a days
Vitor would shred Dan
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by wooly shambler on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
rip him apart, now that's fucking funny
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by biggant on Jan 26, 2012 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dan>Calvacante
Dan> Vitor
Dan’s had a good time beaten brazilians of late… You can be the next Vitor!
Queue?
I’ll have to go with Hendo on this one.
How does a LHW Contender duck a first time MW? Bad match making on Vitor’s part.
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by MMAisfuntowatch on Jan 25, 2012 8:10 PM EST reply actions
no weight issues?
Hendo can’t do 185 now days. Catchweight fight would work. Two of my favorite fighters.
If he turned down that fight, why would he drop to mw to fight Johnson after a war with Shogun. If Johnson really wanted Hendo then he could have brought his big ass to lhw
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
why a catch weight? vitor is naturally heavier than hendo, vitor walked into his last fight at 205
by steady2wheels on Jan 25, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just talking if Vitor still plans on staying at mw
Mutually fair for what they’re use too. I’m sure Vitor doesn’t want to put on muscle, fight at lhw and cut weight to walk around heavier and then after that go back down to mw
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he could fight at lhw without changing anything, then he and hendo would be completely even in weight
by steady2wheels on Jan 25, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
I get what your saying
Im pretty much just saying there are more options that are also realistic
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 9:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Belfort is becoming annoying........
Beating AJ who gassed about 20 seconds into the fight, isn’t exactly earth shattering. Last i heard Kos beat AJ and Hendo can’t? Please.
Dan will be fighting for a title, while Belfort is fighting Wand, who is past his prime and has no relevance in the title picture.
wish i could find that fight, looked for... well forever and never been able to watch it
by steady2wheels on Jan 25, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
which one?
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Damn I tried, but that fight is fuckin nowhere
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Dan is a self professed TRT user.
He having guilt/blame shifting problems?
Therapy for extremely low testerotone levels is justified.
He hasn’t popped a test pre or post for elevated levels, so whatcha getting at bro?
If you had unsatisfactory levels of a hormone that is essential life giving, you’d start a regime as well.. As a dude without adequate levels your quality of life is jeopardized…
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luckily your opinion ain't worth shit. vitor got his as kicked by hendo in pride and vitor was on roids.
vitor has nothing for ANY elite level fighter. the guy blows his mental wad after one flurry and folds up shop.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
So says the guy on Testosterone Replacement Therapy...
I understand Vitor being annoying on a Tito level (with his endless run on sentences….), but if your going to attack a guy for performance enhancing drugs when Hendo needs a drug (that the majority of other fighters can’t use) just to fight.
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by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 25, 2012 11:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just to live* you meant.
“Men with low testosterone had a 33 percent greater death risk over their next 18 years of life compared with men who had higher testosterone, according to the study conducted by Dr. Elizabeth Barrett-Connor and colleagues at the University of California at San Diego.”
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No can do bro. I’ve been in school for years now pursuing further education in biology.. Science rules our world and the people who have spent decades in research have qualified analysis that are worth considering..
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Whether men in general have low T or not is irrelevant
In athletics raising your testosterone artificially to the very highest acceptable limit is bullshit . I know it’s not Illegal but that doesn’t mean it cool with us or with other fighters getting started or below the test threshold .
For Dan to make steroid comments is stupid . Without testosterone being injected into him he would be where he is .
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by wooly shambler on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
somnium
I wouldn’t pay to much attention to people who are ignorant about that kinda medical shit. They’ll appreciate it when they get cancer or they have to take viagra to get a hard on.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mma isn't medical , or a health issue Dan isn't unhealthy without trt
Hes doing it for an advantage over younger fighters
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by wooly shambler on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
having his testosterone level the same as them is an advantage?
Knowledge and experience are the advantages I think you were referring to against younger fighters.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Same blood concentrations , doesn't mean same "levels" trt makes your testosterone consist mainly of free test which is the most important and most anabolic .
Young fighters have to fight with what the have and so should older ones . What’s next a 29 year old feeling his growth hormone levels arent up to par compared to when he hit puberty ??
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by wooly shambler on Jan 26, 2012 1:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
that's the commissions deal
Let’s worry about fixing judging, solid referee rules, and legit roid testing before worrying about what a doctor has decided is safe for the fighter and his opponent.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
seriously how dare he try to learn us something
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by ClinchKing on Jan 25, 2012 8:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
There are alot of quotes out here
In my opinion, the incidence of a low testosterone level, hypogonadism condition in a world-class athlete in his early 30s would be quite low. There could be other factors involved, previous exposure to radiation, chemotherapy, testicular injuries, those things would be quite, quite rare, but also possible previous anabolic steroid use could be a factor as well.
Dr. Nickolas Tomasic, urologist
I’m not saying that Dan Henderson is a steroids abuser. No proof, only suspicions. Suspicions based on what many medical experts on the subject have to say about it, with regards to athletes. But to say that a guy who has been an athlete competing at the highest levels for the majority of his life, hit his thirties and had his testosterone levels rapidly drop is not impossible…but not likely in my opinion (an opinion shared by many who are more qualified on the subject).
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he started TRT in his 30's
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late 30's, when alot of guys have problems with low test.
he isn’t cheating. he never has elevated levels. he is just holding off father time. i don’t have a problem with that. he has mastered his right hand. he is a beast and one of the most dangerous fighters out there.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
late 30’s, when alot of guys have problems with low test
That part is factually inaccurate (many studies showing the numbers and many places to look em up like Mayo clinic), but that’s not the problem with the entire statement. You’re confusing low testosterone with dangerously low testosterone. We’re not talking about the drop off that is expected with aging, we’re talking ‘life in peril’ lows.
Again, the odds of that happening to an exceptional athlete that early is very low (I’m not the one saying it’s low, it’s the people in the field who have studied his condition saying it).
Some choose to ignore expert analysis, others give it some thought.
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who said hendo's levels were "dangerously low"????
i think you are confused my friend. i just googled it late 30’s-early 40’s men’s test levels start dropping off. an inconveniece for normal men, but for an elite athlete pushing their body to the limit , it is probably a bigger problem.
here is the real issue. if dan’s levels are normal and taking trt gives him normal levels of test, then it would be of no benifit. clearly he takes it because he needs it, and he only has normal levels. he isn’t doing anything wrong. haters gonna hate.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
"who said hendo's levels were "dangerously low"????"
Perhaps when he said in an interview about the subject on ESPN where he said that he was getting sick a lot and his levels were so low they were off the charts. Also…that nagging stipulation that you must have exceptional low testosterone to be considered for TUE.
It’s funny that such a big Hendo fan wouldn’t have known that….
And your ‘google search’ followed by your ‘analysis’ was awesome. Keep up the good work!!!!
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ok, if you intepret that as dangerously low then go ahead. clearly the guy needed it then. he was prescribed it, and he has never tested above normal levels. i don't follow the trt issue because i don't think anything is there. and who said i was a hendo
fan??? ask anyone, i am completly neutral when it comes to hendo. i just call it like i see it.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 26, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
100% on the money
Its just like perscription drugs. They are legal when they are perscribed (such as Silva taking them before the Okami fight) They aren’t a problem if you don’t abuse them.
Hendo is just keeping his testosterone where it should be and the athletic commission approves it. If he had to much trt then he would be in Sonnens possition.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 25, 2012 11:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Silva used anti-inflammatories, not even close to being the same thing.
by MMA Boss on Jan 26, 2012 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
pain killers aren't considered a slight advantage?
Getting hit with and without them would still make a bit of a difference. Not much but I was just showing it as an example for both being perscribed by a doctor in a fight legally. What if someone broke their forarm and had to have a plate put on it? Would that be a medically legal advantage? N with that shoulder injury I didn’t see it making a big difference in his performance against Okami.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I take the Phenom over Hendo
at this point of their career!
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I never knew Vitor was capable of saying such a dumb thing
I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I've been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson's nuts? - Dan Henderson.
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At least 5 pounds over the required limit, regardless?
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yes
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by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 26, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Vitor comes off as a jackass here.. why is bringing Henderson into this? Hendo is fighting at LHW now, he’s coming off several huge wins and it would make zero sense for him to go down to 185 to fight someone like Rumble. He said the only fight he’d take at 185 is against Anderson and that’s the right approach – he’s much better at 205 these days (and will probably get a title shot soon).
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight, what you saw, in the ring."
Hendo is a hypocrite
Dan admitted he takes steroids but he gets a dr. permission to take them. If its that way the commission should allow every fighter to take steroids not just a certain few.
trt is not steroids. he has the same level of test as anyone here. steroids flood the body with test and
supercharge your cells. trt (w/normal levels) is not the same as vitor popping for elevated levels during pride 33. vitor was flooded with test and still got his ass whooped.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
You don't know what his levels are.
If dan had nothing to hide, why won’t he talk about it? Because he knows it’s legalized cheating.
by MMA Boss on Jan 26, 2012 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
HENDO TALKING STEROIDS?? C'MON MAN, YOU TAKE "TESTOSTERONE REPLACEMENT" -_-
Eso es una mentira, son anabolicos weon mentiroso.
Coming form someone who juices legally.
Hendo sure can talk.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
jiucing implies elevated levels. hendo has normal levels. you = ignorance.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
i hate your politics. hendo has never popped. that is good enough for me.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 26, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
You're right...
But when discussing a topic like “who would beat who in a fight”…in the most natural essence…TRT isn’t natural…it’s help
The moral of this story is Hendo has absolutely nothing on Anderson :)
You are naive
Choro is right.
What’s the difference. You’re gaining an advantage over another person.
You can say “oh but it’s legal and they’re allowed to do it” but not everyone wants to ram more testosterone into their body.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
Juice implies anabolic substance i.e the stuff used in therapy
me = right
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Vitor all day son
Long live the dragon!!!
by Octagon Brilliance on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions
based on what fantasy??? is vitor "back again" after getting his teeth kicked out by anderson silva?
by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
The fantasy that he has more going than just one punch
Hendo is a great fighter but he has become awfully one dimensional.
As of late most of the people fighting him are stupid enough to play that game.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
lets downplay Hendos accomplishments
it’s the mania way
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
Put the cocaine away.
tkotom: “Hendo is a great fighter”
How is that downplaying anything.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
You said he's only winning fights cuz because his opponents are fighting stupid
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
Not really.
It’s pretty obvious that he has become one dimensional and people i.e Fedor, Shogun come in with half assed gameplans to just stand and bang which is just stupid.
All 3 of them got dropped and nearly and/or finished.. that should show you what i mean.
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Hendo would annihilate Vitor
I truly believe Vitor doesnt have the power to drop Hendo and would get taken down and pounded for as long as it took for the ref to drag Dan off him.
BJ Penn and Shogun Rua fan for life.
Hendo is a legend vitor needs to keep his fucking mouth shut
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 25, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions
A legend to who ? Not me . He got his ass kicked all over the ring in pride while hendo was holding a strap
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
ANYONE who thinks Henderson is ducking or afraid of any human being is nuts!! Wayne Arthur
by ussclaudejones on Jan 25, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions
Yah he's ducking fat boy rumble when he just took on fedor who weighed 240
Vitor might be smokin some shards or somethin
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
You really have no idea what you're on about do you.
Fedor came in at 223.
TRT Hendo came in at 207.
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I would like to state that tkotom is right and I was wrong , faggot
Hendo doesn’t duck anyone lets get that clear though
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions
lmao
well yeah i wasn’t talking about the ducking and i don’t think Hendo was ducking Rumble either…
However Rumble would have a very good shot against Hendo.
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OK HAHAHAHA LOL
that is funny , rumble has some serious issues he gassed out against vitor in like 2 minutes
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 3:34 AM EST up reply actions
Well yeah had he not had such a dreadful cut
He would ragdoll Hendo and i don’t want to hear about Olympic alternates.
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Hendo isn't ducking
This is a guy who wants Jon Jones, a guy who is probably the most feared fighter in the game right now
He wants the big fight and title shot – I believe he would fight Anderson too, he knows he doesn’t have many left so he wants to make them count
Dan would kick Chuck Testa's ASS
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 26, 2012 3:35 AM EST up reply actions
So
Dan should move to MW while he’s going after the LHW title just to fight a somewhat nobody in Anthony Johnson?
Wasn’t the fight in Brazil? I didn’t know Dan was brazilian
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Lol, hendo has the balls to mention vitor taking roids. Dan wouldn't even be able to fight if it wasn't for trt.
Hendo talks mad shit about silva not wanting to fight him and he rejects fights left and right. Hendo obviously didn’t want those fights just like silva doesn’t want a rematch against a guy he already easily beat. Hendo constantly bitches like a little girl, he has an amazing sense of entitlement. He thinks he should get a title shot whenever he wants one. He got two immediate shots and lost them both. Then he went to sf for more money and wanted another one when he came back. This was not long after shields absolutely dominated him. Now he’s being passed over again and he’s whining about it. Rashad deserves the shot much more, especially once he beats davis.
by MMA Boss on Jan 26, 2012 12:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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