Carlo Prater: Joe Rogan is an unethical swagger who acts too much like a fan
by Jesse Holland on Jan 24, 2012 12:51 PM EST
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Hi Prater.
When the fight was stopped between Erick Silva and Carlo Prater, who battled on the main card of the UFC 142: "Aldo vs. Mendes" pay-per-view event back on Jan. 14 in Rio, most of the fans both at home and in attendance thought it was another first round win for the fast-rising "Indio."
Not exactly.
Following the stoppage, referee Mario Yamasaki awarded Prater the win by disqualification, citing repeated blows to the back of "Neo's" head, despite warning Silva to keep 'em clean.
UFC color commentator Joe Rogan, who was amidst the post-fight confusion waiting for his opportunity to interview Silva, confronted Yamasaki on live television and asked him to explain his decision against the big screen replay, which appeared to exonerate the Brazilian from excessive fouls.
It was conduct that was "completely unethical" from a "swagger" who walks amongst fighters, according to comments Prater made to Brazil's SporTV (translated by Eduardo Cruz):
"I think in the end I was made out as a villain. I wasn't laying on the Octagon floor for nothing after the fight. I want that to be clear. I had to stay in the hospital until Monday. They (UFC) asked me not to go public because, indeed, that wouldn't do any good for me or Eric. In my opinion, [referee] Mario (Yamasaki) did the right thing. It's been a long time since rules have been implemented. You are not allowed to do anything you want inside the cage. Watching the fight video I could see at least nine blows to the back of the head. I think the way Joe Rogan behaved was completely unethical. He went with the crowd. A real professional doesn't do that. He was acting like a fan when he should be acting as a broadcaster. Mario is a million times more competent than him. He's been living off this for 20 years. Joe Rogan is just a swagger, someone who walks amongst fighters but isn't really a fighter himself. He doesn't understand. Whatever ... human beings make mistakes and I am not going to be holding grudges against him. I felt really strong strikes to the back of the neck and my right shoulder. They were really painful, shock-like sensations. I was trying to take Erick to the ground on instinct. But I couldnt because it was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. Like my nerves were in shock. I was really scared, I though I had torn something."
Rogan insists he meant no disrespect, but rather felt he "had a responsibility to address the issue" because he "represents the people watching at home that might have obvious questions."
Questions like, "Why did Silva lose?"
Some fans took him to task for calling out Yamasaki, who was forced to make a judgement call in real time, without the benefit of instant replay. Others, however, felt it was an appropriate line of questioning.
We certainly know how Prater feels.
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Jesse. Why was I banned?
This is Rivalution.
I agree with Prater, but I am also sick of hearing about this incident. Once I found out the dq would not be overturned I stopped giving a damn.
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Let me check with the other guys. Did you link to an illegal stream?
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by Jesse Holland on Jan 24, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
No sir.
Like I said in another thread, I was off for about a week, came back to log in and I was banned.
Did you get banned from another SB Nation site? I have read that if you get banned from one then it applies to all.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
i'm scared to even hear why!
guy must be some sort of monster!!!!
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by daniel worby on Jan 24, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
It could be useful
If it helps getting the actual rules out there. 99.999999999% of people have no idea what actually constitutes “back of the head”. Anyone who does and still only sees one shot to the back of the head either needs new glasses or is trolling.
Why the fuck would anyone agree with prater Riv2
we’ve analyzed that do death here…. and from video and focal points of the strike zone we could obviously see that there were not 9 punches to the side of the head but 4 and only the last one hit the back of praters head… we posted a picture of the strikezone area and those were side of the freakin head as backed by the commission. Yamasaki was wrong and so is prater.
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by dana_whitebelt on Jan 24, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was a mistake to confront Mario like that with a microphone.
Chances are if he thought about it he probably wouldn’t do it again.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 24, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions
Goldberg is a company man and Rogan is basically the voice of the hardcore fans
Talk about ethics should be thrown completely out the window given that Dana White is the face of the UFC. You have to respect that he isn’t afraid to speak his mind. Just like how the UFC fully supports Sopa and Joe calls the Sopa bill bullshit. I know u have to watch what you say somewhat. But for example my work decided to hand us a letter on Nov. 1st saying as of November 1st our wellness days are no longer available or valid. Just because they are my company doesn’t mean I have to keep my mouth shut and not ask questions because they said so.
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 24, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i’ve seen a few fights where rogans commentary sucked so bad it seemed like it swayed the judges. he isn’t wrong about rogan being a fanboy, but he is wrong he did not count 9 shots to the back of the head, should have been given 5 minutes to recover if he couldn’t let’s go no contest and rematch. joe rogan was also wrong for calling out a ref in front of everybody i bet he wouldn’t like being called out for his shitty commentary while mid fight
Joe Rogan wasn't wrong for calling out Mario
Commentators do it in boxing. For instance, go back and watch the agbeko-mares fight and you’ll see the announcer taking the ref to task in front of the fans like that. I was actually glad to hear the ref’s opinion—I think they should do it more often in close-call situations like that.
9 shots to the back of the head is bs. 1 maybe although they were really close
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
the only one i saw happened after mario had started to lunge in. so it was being stopped before that accidental one even landed
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by sir.tickleberry on Jan 24, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah - it was absolute bullshit.
still is… and the fact the UFc a week later say “the loss stands” just shows what a fucking farce they are becoming.
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white wont go against the commission
can’t blame him. as soon as he starts revesing decisions and cheating suspensions the ufc’s credibility comes in to question. its a tough situation and sadly silva gets fucked over it
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by sir.tickleberry on Jan 24, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Have no fear, I just called
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should be on the way to get Prater and bring him to a fat chick’s house, who will gently rub his back and say “there there” in a soothing voice.
p.s. – Prater- you got your ASS KICKED.
by Clark Griswald on Jan 24, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
w/e, of course the dude who got his ass handed to him is gonna praise Mario for giving him a DQ win.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 12:59 PM EST reply actions
Rogan did his job
The fans wanted to know wtf the ref was lookin at, Joe asked him. Good job Joe.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions
i agree, joe is colour. joes is the "voice of the fans" it's goldie's job to toe the line
i want someone to call bullshit if i see bullshit. on the flipside i hate him when he calls a jones fight or anyone he loves. his bias drives me crazy., jones can’t land anything that isn’t “huge” or “big” “HUUUGE jab from jones” even though he gets on my tits then i’d rather that than ken flo, miletich or someone stagnant
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by sir.tickleberry on Jan 24, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
He shouldn't have questioned the ref like that live.
The referee, right or wrong, has the final decision and he’s only human and will sometimes make mistakes that he can’t reverse. Being immediately questioned on why he made a deicision in the moment will affect the way he and others officiate in the future and that is not a good thing.
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by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 24, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it's an awesome thing
And the it effects how he officiates will be positive.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
He would have done a good job had he just asked him
But that’s not what Rogan did. He put a non-contracted person on the spot and refused his side of the story.
by Wonderjudas on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
When reviewed in slo mo i saw 1 maybe and questionable 2nd but 9 shots no, the dude is on crack. I know he is trying to justify the DQ and the slot in the win column.
What is this about the rules, last I check they still DQ for knees to the head on a ground opponent. They still warn for Ric Flair moves. Hell they fear knees to the head so much they allowed Koz to fake them not once but twice. So quit talking out of your ass.
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by Luke Thomas on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Ive said this always, Rogan needs a fighter as a part of the broadcast team so that his head doesnt get too big…he always seems less opinionated and confident when someone is there who has been in a fight like couture or florian.
Isn't Joe A Fighter?
Doesn’t he train 10th planet or something? A fighters insight is valuable however Rogan is passionate about fighting, and for the most part well informed. He’s the voice of the fans when he’s interviewing and even when commentating.
no, he's still the voice of zuffa's broadcast
if he’s such a fan why didn’t he question ‘the legendary’ randy couture when he took like 7 minutes to finish mark coleman when it was obviously a gimme match. Why didn’t he question jones on droping machida’s unconsious body to the canvas?
joe is not there to be a fan, he’s there to provide commentary on the fights
pride never die.
He's human
Not some robot that’s supposed to stand there and be politically correct all the time. He’s a fan, it shows, deal with it.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
As a fan would you ask couture a bones those same questions to there faces?
I call bullshit if you say yes. Therefor he’s the same way, he will ask complimentary questions. Much like most fans would
Joe can do what he wants
he is established, knowledgeable and charismatic.
UFC doesn’t operate by normal rules. Joe doesn’t have to “not be there as a fan” and just “provide commentary”- a precedent has been established where he can speak his mind, as other UFC employees do, and it is cool with the UFC, and MOST fans.
I’d rather see a commentator stir shit up a little rather than the bland, fake, pretending to be impartial and terrified to express an opinion garbage that you see in most any major sport.
by Clark Griswald on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly
These fighters act like he don’t have eyes and can’t clearly see it wasn’t 9 shots to the back of the head. It was first of all 6 at the most. And maybe 2 of them were on the back of the head. The rest where on his shoulder and side of the head.
But to be honest. The ref did what he thought was right and I stand by him. It’s easy to criticize when we have slow mo and tons of angles of replays.
If it’s a rule then it should be enforced more often. Maybe this is just the start of a new way of protecting the fighters.
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by that rational
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There are rules and there are established precedents, the latter is what is usually enforced.
by Clark Griswald on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
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Did a fantasic job last Friday – it was a relief to hear something different then Rogan and Gold predictable lines. I find Rogan and Gold also trip over each other constantly.
Anuk knew his role and seamlessly threw up softballs for K-Flo. They had great chemistry.
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It actually was 9 shots but none of us can see it in normal replays because erick silva is that fast
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never mind this bullshit, is that you on the deck somewherein paradise?
holy shit it looks amazing. where is it?
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by sir.tickleberry on Jan 24, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
He was DQ'd
Because Prater couldn’t continue due to a strike on his shoulder that happened before the one blow to the back of the head. Much like Jones/Hamill where it wasn’t the actual illegal strike(downward elbow) that caused the damage to where Hamill couldn’t continue, it was the takedown that dislocated his shoulder. But because he could not continue Jones was DQ’d.
I agree completely. The Jones/Hamill fight always bothered me
Yes it was an illegal elbow. But it was not the reason that he couldn’t continue.
As for Silvas strikes, one for sure landed on the back of the head, maybe 2 at most but if we have all the angles and can’t solidly say 2 then u can only count the one.
With Rogan calling out Yamasaki, I don’t find it unethical. Goldberg is the company man who tries to paint everything in the best light and is often wrong about his statement. Rogan speaks for the hardcore fans I think. He does train MMA so he is not completely clueless. He is able to correct Goldberg with a lot of what he says. Such as… (Goldy)- that was a hard left hook that dropped him (Rogan)- that was actually a knee.
Rogan asking for an explenation that everyone wanted to hear isn’t far fetched. It makes it easier to respect what the ref saw in the heat of the mom. N its not like Rogan said “These things sometimes happen in MMA!”
by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 24, 2012 1:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I support Joes questioning of Mario completely. I was very confused as to what happened since I thought they were all legal blows as well. Since it was such a terrible call and that there was so much confusion after the fight it was the right thing to do. I would have been mad had he not interviewed Mario.
I agree
fans want to know what the deal is, that is much better than just pretending it didn’t happen and not questioning the call.
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As so I do and Prater is being very disingenous here
Like he was in the hospital based on that one shot. Very, very unlikely.
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I love having someone like Joe around
he asks the questions people want to know and brings a fan enthusiasm to all the fights he calls. I would much rather have a “fan type” announce like Joe than a “corporate type” announcer like bob costas.
As for Joe “living off this”. He has been on multiple Network tv shows and has a successful (even if UN-funny) stand-up career. And you are …carlo prater. I would much rather be in Joe’s position in life than yours carlo.
"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."
As for Joe "living off this". He has been on multiple Network tv shows and has a successful (even if UN-funny) stand-up career. And you are …carlo prater. I would much rather be in Joe’s position in life than yours carlo.
hurtful yet truthful words being said here.
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Joe is like a king amongst men.
He just really is.
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The only thing I wish he would stop doing is saying
“This guy is one of the best in the business, he’s an elite ____, he’s at the top of the food chain” etc… not everyone can be “the best in the business”.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah he can be a little over complimentary
but i guess it is his job to “build up” the fighters a little.
"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."
thats what makes rogan,rogan. repetetive catch phrases.
just like O damn he got caught!
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prater is right
joe rogan has no business taking sides. A professional broadcast would state “that was a mistake for the ref” and leave it at that, unlike what rogan did, which was to state over and over how a cheater got robbed off his cheat victory
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Pfft..
I’ve seen way worse than what that guy got DQ’d for go by without a damn word from the ref. That was some bullshit.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
it's bullshit? yes, maybe. Should rogan be the one calling it so? absolutely no!
that’s what professional journalism is for. He’s part of a broadcast, not part of the media.
he fucked up and i hope he gets punished for it
pride never die.
yes he shoudl
he is the voice of the fans and need s to ask the questions the fans want answers to. when someone makes a mistake they need to be called out on it, no matter what their job is.
"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."
the voice of the fans is the voice of the fucking fans
that would be twitter (since dana loves it so much). Don’t like a ruling, take it to dana directly.
rogan is not a fan in attedance, rogan is there to call play by play/colour and he failed to do so. He got personally involved in the outcome, he must be punished.
this shit already looks a lot like wwe as it is, the last thing you need is casual fans thinking the ufc decides the outcomes
pride never die.
Joe gets paid to talk
that’s what he gets paid to do, he was doing his job.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
then don't be surprised when a 'casual' asks you who's going to win as if it was rigged
pride never die.
yea.. I'm sure the broken nose, cuts, blood etc... won't convince them it's a real fight
When you see the slow mo replay of a knock blow hammering into the jaw of some guys face and you can see the impact and him drop like a box of rocks I’m sure that just screams “FAKE!”
Get real..
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
wow wtf is with me today
*knock out blow
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
If any fight from that show was rigged it was Vitor-Rumble
And the UFC have spent years ripping off WWE with their matchmaking, booking shows like pro wrestling cards by promoting the best talkers and not the best fighters. That’s why a talentless hack with a big mouth like Sean McCorkle managed to get himself a co-main event spot for his 2nd UFC fight while a genuine talent with a proven record like Jon Fitch is very rarely promoted at all.
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i also find it funny how you have said multiple times now that "he must be punished"
let me know how that works out
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dana won't punish him obviously
he plays the favourites game like no other
pride never die.
You're making a bigger deal out of it than it is
Even if he was in the wrong (which he wasn’t), that doesn’t deserve “punishment”.
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by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. And I am not a Rogan nuthugger either.
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I agree
But I don’t think he really needs to be punished. He does however need to refrain from interviewing officials on air. And that line needs to be clear.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 24, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Carlos Prater is a Nobody who acts too much like a sore loser. Bitchass should shut the fuck up and learn not get destroyed in the first round.
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we are still arguing about this? move on
seriously, hasnt anything else happened for us to get all upset about. im sure Chael has said something stupid for us to worry over.
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Somebody should post the gif from Vitor vs Akiyama
Mario was reffing that fight as well, and Vitor clearly put Akiyama out with at least 2 bombs directly to the back of his head.
by Tommy Shenanigans on Jan 24, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions
that fight may have indirectly affected the reffs dq decision in this one
he had to have watched the replay of the vitor akiyama and say wow how did i miss that. Good point
by dia mette on Jan 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah those shots were way more blatant and yet he gave Vitor the benefit of the doubt
My problem with what Mario did is that it was an inconsistent call. There have been countless cases of guys punching their opponent in the back of the head and the ref not doing anything about it yet this 1 time it resulted in a DQ. I wouldn’t be so annoyed by this decision if Mario and the other referees constantly punished fighters for committing fouls but instead it seems that the rules are applied for 1 guy (i.e. a developing prospect in Silva) but ignored for another (a proven draw and former champion in Vitor).
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How long are you going to hold that against him though? Mario screws up 1 fight and now he has to screw them all up to be consistent?
dia mette is probably right on the money. Mario made a decision not to let that go again. However as for the DQ result he really didn’t have much say in that. Once the referee determines that an illegal strike led to a fighter being unable to continue that’s a DQ under NSAC. Exact same thing as happened to Jones.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Joe rogan is just a swagger?
Joe would submit Praters ass in a second if they grappled
You ever seen Prater's JJ? Probably not or you wouldn't say that
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Carlo is an idiot
Joe even made a GIF on his Twitter that did it in slow mo and only ONE strike strayed to the back of the head barely. Prator is being a sore ass loser, Joe was just trying to give the people at home the question they wanted asked. Even Erick Silva said, “I’ll leave here tonight with the sense of victory”. Carlo is white as fuck and acts like he is Brazilian, even has it on his skin. Whatta joke.
Yea, definitely sour grapes on Prater's part.
These sound arguments and relevant prognostications are getting in the way of my trolling......
by frameslyder1 on Jan 24, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
So ridiculous
Rogan did what needs to be done, finally calling out an official for a bad call. Its never going to get better if we don’t confront judges and refs that screw up. Even if it is an accident, you make a bad call you need to own up to it. Especially refs that do it chronically like Yamasaki. The replay showed most of the shots were legal, a warning or point deduction was the right call, Mario jumped the gun, he needs to own up to it. Rogan calling him out on it was refreshing as no one else seems to care enough to question crap calls.
These sound arguments and relevant prognostications are getting in the way of my trolling......
If you win a fight by a shitty dq...
You need to keep your big mouth closed and count yourself lucky you got your win bonus and move on. It might have been a bit out of the box, but Rogan’s questioning at the time was spot on.
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by Greenbeard on Jan 24, 2012 5:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Rogan shouldn't have called out Mario on air
But he was right to question the call. My problem with what he did was that it put Mario in danger as he was being made out to be a scapegoat in front of an already hostile crowd, despite him having to come out and referee the main event. It was an uncomfortable moment and really Rogan should have shown more tact when dealing with an admittedly bad and certainly inconsistent decision. It would have made a lot more sense for Mario to talk about why he DQ’d Silva after the show than put him on the spot right after the fight.
That being said Carlo is showing what a dick head he is with this quote. He got tooled as expected and illegal blows or not clearly had nothing to offer Silva so to talk in this way about the fight and Rogan shows that the flaws in his character match those in his skillset. Fuck Carlo, I hope that the next time he gets obliterated in the cage the result actually stands. And he’s as Brazilian as I am, he even shares my pasty white skin tone.
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Most unfair call i've seen......ever
Remember how smooth big John used to be.??? The current refs are so shakey.
I had the full 3 point result too…… Fuck it!
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