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Report: UFC guns down weapons-related sponsors

Photo of a well-armed Nick Diaz by Tracy Lee via Fight Linker.

Guns don't sponsor people. Carefully approved companies with deep pockets sponsor people.

That might be the unfortunate truth for mixed martial artists competing on the dollar of The Gun Store and Ammotogo.com. That's because ZUFFA, the parent company of Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), is reportedly moving forward with a ban on all weapons-related sponsors.

That's according to a report from The MMA Corner:

Although the UFC's seven-year deal with Fox is still in its infancy, the effects of the deal are beginning to trickle through the MMA world.

The MMA Corner has learned from sources close to the situation that the latest impact is that guns and ammunition sponsors, such as The Gun Store and Ammotogo.com, have been banned from events that take place on the Fox family of networks.

*UPDATE * - The MMA Corner has learned that the ban includes companies related to guns, knives, ammunition, and hunting. It will go into effect on Jan. 23. The ban has been extended to all UFC events, not just those broadcast on the Fox family of networks.

Rat-tat-tat-tat, tat-tat-ta like that, and they never hesitate to put a sponsor on its back.

Star-divide

A ban on weapon-related sponsors could be a mighty blow to a good chunk of the UFC roster, including both established veterans and up-and-coming prospects.

It's not an usual for a UFC fighter to thank The Gun Store, like Martin Kampmann (veteran) did in this interview, just like Cody McKenzie (up-and-comer) did right here in his.

They're also responsible for a litany of UFC-related videos, like this one.

So how about it Maniacs, is this simply the cost of doing business? Softening the promotion's associations as it slowly creeps into the mainstream via the FOX network?

Or a slap in the face to supporters who helped get them there?

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Guns and Ammo not ok

but US Military is just fine. That makes a whole lot of sense.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

Don't buy thses guns for your own protection, but

join us and use our guns to kill brown muslims thousands of miles away.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

And no this isn't a racist comment, our miitary is killing, and has been killing, brown muslims for decades.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya

but we really don’t care what color the guy we are shooting looks like, as long as doing so will make a profit or secure some oil, which will lead to profit.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i heard somebody say Oil somewhere...

this better be worth my time.

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Those flags should only go off when I have said “oil” AND “cock”.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

damn deuce! i thought were cool?

i logged in just for you.

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 23, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

by cool do you mean you always thought I was talking about cock? O_o

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Obama lees hill.he’s not doing any of that , wrong era.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Let the censoring begin!

You want to go mainstream you have to comply to mainstream. 1st sponsors then speech then Fox will start editing content for too much blood, too much violence, too many broken bones, etc…We will be getting more UFC but only a water-down version. Spike was perfect because they were willing to let that stuff fly Fox I don’t think they will.
Hate to say it but PPV is still the best way to watch UFC!

I hate it when people have a bunch of carp in this section!

by mmamac on Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Thugs and cowboys bad.

Public servants with 1,000s of hours training who keep our freedom free ( or what’s left of it ) good.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What’s up with the linguisa (?) from what I know with my Portuguese background , that’s a good breakfast with some eggs and home fries. Everytime I run into a Portuguese I feel like we are the last of the Mohicans , there is hardly any of them in NYC.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

North Pole? What you doing up there man?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

my parents lived here for a long time

And decided to move back home as soon as I moved up here. I think they hated me that bad but never admitted to it.

by Portuguese Breakfast on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Fuck them never contact them again.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

obrigado

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

nada

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

good stuff

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 23, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i grew up with linguica...best stuff in the world!!

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here.

I was raised by my great grandmother and her mother was straight from Lisbon. I grew up with all kinda of portugese dishes.

by emperorj on Jan 23, 2012 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

2nd amendment good.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

who keep our freedom free

I will always support our military, but that is not what we have been doing.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That has little to do with the military , and a lot to do with the politicians that we vote into office .

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So why support it then? Genuinely confused.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

See P123’s answer for that.

The guys serving in our military aren’t setting the policies, they aren’t deciding themselves that we should invade other countries.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

They just sign up knowing full well what they’re getting themselves into.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 23, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t be stupid Danny. You are smarter than this.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

lol Sure she is!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Jan 24, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

They sign up because they don't have any other job

They’re girlfriend got pregnant
They’ll get their college paid for etc…

Maybe .01% are dumb enough to sign up thinking “I’m going to protect the homeland.”

They get paid, they volunteer to do it, they get crazy benefits, so no I don’t kiss soldier ass and I don’t see a reason to.

I don’t think there’s anything good that we’re doing in the middle east right now, at all. I completely disagree with being over there and our country needs to learn to mind it’s own damn business.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Labeling these guys as heroes makes it even worse. A guy with no qualifications, no prospects, direction can now join the army and become a hero. There’s 14 year old kids in school who’ve already given up and decided joining the military is the best option.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 23, 2012 2:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you would be surprised to find out how selective the military is now

not just anyone can sign up and join, many people are turned away based on a litany of reasons ranging from physical fitness, to poor testing, to criminal histories.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The army has lowered it's standards big time, trust me

An ASVAB score of 36 is passing now, that’s 36 out of 100. I saw so many people on the graduation field in basic that did not to deserve to be there it was unreal. Couldn’t shoot for shit, couldn’t do the required P.T. etc.. they just want bullet shields.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

well times have changed since I was in HS

I scored a 98 on my ASVAB, but because I had a bum knee, the army would not accept me, granted that was in 1996 and there wasn’t a whole lot going on…..

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in a barracks with a guy so dumb

I walked in one day and he’s sitting on the floor biting his foot. I’m like “WTF are you doing?” and he told me he was trying to bite the infection off. Yes, he graduated…. and went on to AIT… and graduated again….

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea Shivan it’s heavily dependant on what the world scene is. During Iraq, no one wanted to join. So then standards go lower. When people are joining left and right because there is no wars ( damn pansies ) , standards go way up because they just need to keep their quota.

US Military is like 300,000 deep that’s it.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Your ex military O Damn?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Same shit as a cop , they deserve a certain level of respect.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LMAO

I’ll have to side with NWA on that one. “Fuck the police.”

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, you and your cop hate. Move to a town with less crime fool!

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

iraq will be for the better agreed?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, was broke, no job, no education

it was the logical choice at that time.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Cuz they risk their lives and their families future for our benefit douche

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea cause that's what they're over there thinking

“God, I hope I can benefit all you Americans at home.” They don’t care about the paid for education, the benefits, the pay check etc.. O yea, and you don’t have anyone joining up just to shoot anybody either. I mean what kind of person would join the army just so they could go kill people? That doesn’t happen right?

Get real.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s why I joined. To kill people. There’s nothing wrong using your evil for good. That’s harmony right there. People need to do terrible things , let the fuckers who can handle do it for the right reason.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

" do it for the right reason"

So the government points and says “go kill” and that’s the right reason? Wow, delusional.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell yea if you fuckers all think it’s ok to kill those fucks then sign me up. I just don’t want to go to jail. But I’m 100% down for all that legal killing.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea you're part of the problem...

For sure..

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahahaha

Yea your probably right, but even my kind can change and grow. My daughter turned my life around. So I’m not really like that anymore. You can’t change who you are , but you can make the best of it.

Soldier > Criminal so that’s a win!

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

barely

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

upport the troops

not the military industrial complex , we spend 600 billion a yr on our defense budget trying to police the planet

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

7 times more than anyone else...

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yup china is next with 100 billion

Un fuckin real

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

We spend more than all the leading countries. More than China, U.K., Japan, India, and even motherfucking RUSSIA combined.

That is ridiculous.

Show no mercy; for you shall receive none

by Chorongota on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to protect our oil interests

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish

the US would spend 1/4 of their military expenses towards building an alternative fuel infrastructure.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The big co's don't want that

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i know

same reason Hemp is outlawed

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck oil that shit is so last century we need to move on already. It’s pathetic.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Jan 24, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

and that's just what they let us know about

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

So many phantom programs and holes in the budget billions upon billions

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

how many outdated military vehicles and carriers and all this other shit that never even saw the light of day

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I grew up near the largest military storage depot on the East Coast

miles of outdated Desert Storm vehicles thre in 1994. Once steel started getting shitty from China, they started melting them down for the second Iraq war.

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m cool with the policing the world job. That’s our duty. Can’t let these tyrants destroy everything around them forever.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Our duty?

You really have bought what they are selling haven’t you?

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hook, line and sinker...

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not buying anything. It’s common sense. We got the good stuff , time to share.

These tyrants running around like cowboys need to go enough is enough. Humanity deserves better.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You are not buying? Listen to yourself.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t even pay attention to politics. Until we get rid of lobbyist what’s the point.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t even pay attention to politics.

This is obvious.

I am not trying to be a dick, but there is no better way to say this.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha completely understand.

I’m just saying help your fellow mankind out . Just extend a hand kind of stuff. Satellite snipe bad leaders until good ones come lol.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What are we sharing?

A “democracy” bought and paid for by Goldman Sachs and teh rest of the multi-national banks? (Of the top 10 donors to BOTH presidential candidates in the last 4 American elections, 4 financial institutions are on everyone’s list and 7 of the 10 for every candidate is a financial institution of sokme kind)

A “democracy” whose money supply is controlled by a private corporation who can print money at will? (The Federal reserve is a private corporation. loo it up)

A “democracy” that instilled an electoral college whose voters have no need to liste to its constituency?

How to go into $15 TRILLION in debt?

Please enlighten me on what we are teaching the world??

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

entertainment

we buy it all around the globe, we love it. The USA is sneaky like that

pride never die.

by vhw_ on Jan 23, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

We teach them not to be a piece of shit. Just keep killing those fuckers until they get the point.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Are you being serious?

Politics is just one big ass blast.

by Rolandando on Jan 23, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep I feel humanity deserves better than letting pieces of shit torture it’s children. I know , I know , it is quite a ridiculous POV huh? I must be crazy to have thought up something like that.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

uh, you do realize that OUR COUNTRY is known for torturing people, right?

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I know that’s bullshit. I have no problem with torturing pedophiles , terrorists and murderers but I know it’s wrong and I’m a sick fuck.

I’m cool with torturing terrorists though , if we need info to stop a 9/11 torture those fucks.

Problem is the gov’t will manipulate that.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the US doesn't help anyone without getting something back in return.

and clean up your own house before trying to fix the problems in other countries.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you, people are fucked all over the world

But thinking that we are helping anyone in the middle east is ignorant. We aren’t “spreading democracy”. As far as “letting pieces of shit torture it’s children” that goes, try and think about how many innocent civilians the us has killed. Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is9sxRfU-ik

Why didn’t we help prevent the genocide in Rwanda? Why aren’t we helping in Darfur? Why are millions of Africans dying from diseases that we can cure?

Politics is just one big ass blast.

by Rolandando on Jan 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea we need to help those fuckers. Let those snipers and crazy planes work their magic!

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Did you watch the video?

A dozen innocent people were killed and 2 children were shot

Politics is just one big ass blast.

by Rolandando on Jan 23, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That is horrible we need better weapons. Na I’m at work I’ll watch it later.

It’s 2012 we spend what 600 billion a year on military we need shit that just takes people out from crazy distances.

But me personally , if you choose to stand with the face of evil you choose death seems like a catchy slogan to me.

I’m not one to advocate killing innocents , but you get a warning and then it’s on you.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

if you choose to stand with the face of evil

You are letting others tell you who is evil without understanding the issues or the situation man.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was common sense.

If you are practicing genocide , we are taking you out and anyone who stands close to you.

I want some evidence , video evidence and we are ready to roll.

Take out all the genocide people for year 1 then we can get fancier year by year.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought you were a somewhat coherent guy previously, but you are either seriously misinformed and misguided and/or starting to troll.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy says he joined the army so he could kill people legally

That pretty much tells you what you need to know.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

at least he is up front about it

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That's one of the reasons why I don't even bother going up to people in uniform that I've never seen in my life before

Shaking their hand and saying “Thank you for your service.” That is fucking retarded, no way would I want to shake this guys hand.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I got respect for you OD

i agree.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Fa SHO! Yea I’m not trolling but I’m just being aloof making it seem crazier. But yea that’s all true although some of my points have a nonchalant edge to them even though the topics are serious but this is a MMA website fucker.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you've seen Red Dawn one too many times.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

What does a movie got to do with anything? And yea, duh, favorite movie of all time.

Some people are just born this way, don’t discriminate .

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

For real

I’m disappointed in him today. I hope he’s trolling

Politics is just one big ass blast.

by Rolandando on Jan 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he was being serious to start, got schooled and now is trolling. That way, he can come back tomorrow and act like he was just trolling the whole time.

This is a common practice.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I got schooled? I don’t even know shit to begin with , just have a POV. I feel like the reactions were all rehashed NRA propaganda that no one actually believes unless they said it enough times that it’s normal to them.

Guns are dangerous , we should treat them like they are.

And the main issue I was bringing up was the unregistered users, at the end of the day of you are killing someone with your registered gun , more power to you.

These guys buying guns all over and dumping them left and right are the real problems. Not hardworking Americans.

I think my point went off course throughout the whole thing, the point was stopping these fuckers which training and such doesn’t really do , that’s for people who do the right thing.

But on a furthering note I would be totally cool with people getting training equivilant to driving a car , that just makes sense to me, but at the present time that’s not really the big issue. One step at a time.

I think 25 years or so minimum for an unregistered gun should clear all that up.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

1953 Iranian coup d'état

We went in, overthrew a democratic government and installed a dictator. And we do shit like that all the time, look over the last 100 years. We need to take this country back from the criminals.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesus. This country sucks ass .

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

it's run by a bunch of crooks

You might as well be taking orders from a mafia don.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

the mafia don

takes care of his neighbors, just don’t cross him.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just commenting this to my friends on Sat. I am better off if the mob runs the city instead of the politicians.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

longing for the old days

when Capone was in charge of your fine city.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Its the Chicago way! RATATATATATATATATATATT!!!

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The mafia don is a piece of shit who shakes down his own kind and kills his own people. They are better than the drug dealing street gangs though for sure. Far less innocents involved.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Have you seen the second zeitgeist movie?

If so how much, do you know, of the “banking hitman” segment was true?

Politics is just one big ass blast.

by Rolandando on Jan 23, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It's got some good info in it

But project venus is a crock of shit.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

As far as the banking hitman segment

There is a lot of truth in there. As far as the rest of the film being a snuff film on religion and promoting one world government. That’s true too.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope that was a sarcasm fail

Acting like the worlds Daddy is what has helped create the hostility towards us in the first place.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We have the most money , better laws than 99% there’s a lot to hate. If there is going to be a NWO it might as well be us. Better than the Germans at least.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Man.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

you are way to trusting of the

politicians corporations running the United States

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

They do suck , wish we could crush them next.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Stop blaming corporations, America is trash. It’s you who put the Jersey Shore cast on a pedestal, it’s you who will happily gun down your neighbor if he steps on your lawn. You voted the terrorists Obama in, man up and accept that the American people are trash.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

strong skills today Danny

very strong indeed.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Obama is good people man. I like that guy. Best damn president I ever saw.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Depends on the context - are you comparing him to Bush? He is just another cog in the special interests machine.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s how the system works though. He’s playing the game the best he can.

How to make better gov’t? Step one remove lobbyist I would think.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lobbyists are the least of our fucking problems right now

At least they don’t pretend to be something they aren’t. Our congressmen, our senators, our executive branch and our judges are all bought and paid for. At least you know where a lobbyist stands, they aren’t hiding that shit.

Obama should have to wear Halliburton logos everyday so we aren’t confused about who he works for.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

We're in knee deep now

Revolution is going to be the only way out of this.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I fear you are right

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He is absolutely right.

That’s why no guns. They want them removed so they can contol us better and take away more our our freedoms.

It's all about the entertainment.

by VicDundee on Jan 23, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

WWIII

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Obama has tortured more people, bombed more countries and wasted more money. The only person who can change America is YOU. Wake up and smell the coffee, trillions in dept and still living the dream? Sort your problems out.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 23, 2012 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i will admit to 1 of those three things

I’ve never watched the Jersey Shore, I don’t own a gun, I did vote for Obama.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I admit to all 3. I won't be doing the 3rd option again.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to vote for Paul

but I think I’m wasting a vote if I do, if he is even on the ballet come November.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Media really isn’t giving him a chance and I fear there are a lot of people with your mindset. Fucking sneaky bastards.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a registered Democrat

so I have to rely on other people to get him through the primaries for me. Not so sure that is going to happen, I have a feeling there is going to be a Newt on the punch card come November

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I am an independent

so I am in the same boat.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i was formerly an independent

and switched to democrat before the last election so I could vote for Obama……..

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit dude, buy "The Revolution" and "End The Fed"

RP wrote both of those, easy quick reads, like a little over 200 pages a piece. You can get a pretty good snap shot of what that guy is all about right there.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i’ll probably pirate digital copies.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

it's a good idea in theory

unfortunately the president is as much a figure head as the queen of England at this point.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

except the queen can't veto laws and appoint judges

figurehead, sure, but he has power, it is already bought and paid for though.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

correct me if I am wrong

but a law vetoed by the president, can still be overruled and made law by the legislature, and the judges are only appointed upon the death, or resignation of a current court justice, so that power is not a given for all presidents.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

correct, but to give you an idea of how many people we are talking about…Obama has appointed 124 of them, two to the supreme court. He is expected to appoint almost 100 more before his term is up.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't even thinking of

federal judges, just the supreme court.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

circuit courts, appeals courts etc etc.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea this shit sucks we need a new country.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You're confused

When someone says our leadership is full of criminals and that they’re driving our country into the ground and we need to take it back from them. You interpret that to mean that they’re saying “this country sucks.”

They’re saying, look at the leadership, look at what they’re doing, lets put a stop to this.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t even being sarcastic I know you remember my pro merica stuff but today I agree with you guys. This is all bullshit. Who we gotta kill?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I've said many times "revolution will be our only way out of this"

But I still think this is a war of ideas. I don’t think it’s time to withdraw from the intellectual field of battle yet. The best thing IMO that people can do right now, is educate themselves and turn the TV off more often than not.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends

Ron could definatley throw a wrench in the works. One man isn’t going to change everything, he’s not a cureall to our problems but he’s a step in the right direction.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not a waste

The media is on a Ron Paul blackout for that very reason. They do want you to think it’s a waste though. Even if he loses, he still gets to bring up relevant issues the longer he’s in it. More information to more people is a good thing.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

no vote...

is a wasted vote. If it doesnt work this time, it might next time. Thats how people get the funds to run. If it isnt a waste of time/money, people support again and again.

The media is controlling this election so you might not get the chance.

Paul is still just a little crazier than last time he ran.. sadly, he is letting his true colors shine through to get more of the traditional votes.

by KYRedneck on Jan 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He's the only anti-war candidate on the conservative side

That should tell people something is way wrong with the rest of them. He’s only one who took time off of his campaign trail to present legislation to congress to repeal the NDAA and SOPA. He’s still the better candidate by miles. It’s not even close in my mind.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It's Not a wasted vote (imo)

He may at least be able to get a load of delegates, which will matter. If he can get an appointment as FED chairman, it’s worth it.

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Jan 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That will never happen

He never worked for the Vampire Squid or one of its tentacles.

But if he can convince the general populace that we need an audit of the Fed, that will be worth his weight in gold. Unfortunately that won’t happen either.

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i wont gun down my neighbor...

hes cool as hell! but some random guy breaks into the house? has 5 seconds to exit the building before my pistol or shotgun escorts him in a body bag.

I voted for obama, will do it again over the other tards running…

never saw jersy shore… i blame corporation for that.

by KYRedneck on Jan 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I would rather not have a NWO

I like the diversity of the world. Sure, there’s a ton of problems in the world…poverty, corruption, wars, religion…but the US isn’t immune to any of this. They just do most of their shitting in other countries so the people back home cant smell it.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I’m just saying target the really bad areas. You want a scumbag to run your country , you fucked.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You mean...

“just take out the elected Governments that dont support American corporations benefitting off their resources”.

That’s reality.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people will not wake up..

They’ll take any vaccine their told to, they’ll make sure their kids do the same, they’ll give up any freedom they have to as long as the ball game is still on when it’s supposed to be.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

99% of people just dont care

they’re distracted by cable tv and pop culture. Governments love sports and American Idol. that shit keeps people away from reading a newspaper. and the front page of most news sites is about how miley cyrus tripped on the sidewalk on her way to yoga??? But most people eat this shit up!! Especially girls. Some friend was tellin me they got like 5 or 6 different shows of “Housewives of New York…New Jersey…Orange County”

How the fuck do people have time to know whats happening in the world when their entire free time is occupied by a TV GUIDE???

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

They don't

And they don’t want to know. They don’t want to believe it. IMO that’s because then they know they have a responsibility to do something. Then they can’t just worry about keeping themselves entertained and happy all the time. And people don’t want that responsibility.

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by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

We are a spoonfed society

It is no longer difficult to acquire the basic necessities to life.

Utilities pump water, full of flouride, to your house, but will refues you making any kind of home waste disposal system.

Supermarkets carry all the food you can imagine, even if shipped from China or Argentina, but HOA’s do not allow gardens. What happens if the 3 days of food that most supermarkets carry runs out?

Housing is more affordable than ever before. We have purposely low interest rates and until 2008, if you had good credit, you did not even have to show a paystub to receive 100% financing for a $500,000 house.

Anyone can recieve a credit card with a $500 limit at 28% interest. My firend got one the day after his bankruptcy.

Everything is easy to get today, leaving more time to do nothing. We didn’t have TV in 1900 because 80% of our population was subsitence level. Our population is now 10% subsistence level. After our 40 hour wrok week, people think it is ok to “unwind”.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

So we should all just be poor as shit again? Is that the answer?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Define poor

Some of the richest people I know have little money.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i think it's simpler than that

people just dont give a shit. it’s not that they’ll feel responsible to do something.

they dont feel responsible for anyone, but themselves and their family. they just plug their ears and happily drink the koolaid with the blue pill. Not me. I want the red pill.

When I first saw the famous Baghdad Helicopter Shooting that was leaked by Wikileaks I thought it was freakin crazy. Video evidence of collaborated murder of civilians. I showed it to a few other people I work with. they were just like “meh”. As if it doesn’t mean anything to them. It’s just war. It’s “over there”.

And whats crazy is that the guy who released the video is in prison??? Thats straight fucked. the guy did nothing but tell the truth.

What happened to “the turht will set you free”?

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by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

they dont feel responsible for anyone, but themselves and their family

Agreed. I guess my point was kind of meant to reflect that.

People don’t have to fight to live any longer. They don’t have to worry about the food in their pantry over a long winter. they don’t haev to worry about how to heat their home over winter.

People rent houses, they lease cars, they buy on credit. It means less that way.

the first car I bought I treated like gold because I saved for two summers to buy that piece of shit and bought it with cash. I leased a car 5 years later and treated only well enough to not get charged extra wehn I turned it back in.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, people flat out don’t give a shit. They only care when they are directly affected, and are too short sighted to see long terms affects.

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Miley Cyrus tripped????

:P

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by dec3ptiKon_ on Jan 23, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh I didn’t mean that far. Just fuck up the bad countries , everyone else is cool. Just crazy genocide mass killings etc lets start with them first.

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if things were as black and white as you like to think they are, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Take out the crazy bastards with weapons of mass destruction? Kinda like we did with Suddam?

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

"Take out the crazy bastards with weapons of mass destruction?"

You mean all those assholes in office right now??

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like

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by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

We need some cool ass dictator to come in and run shit. Then set it up for a better democracy and quit. Lol. Might as well ask for God himself right?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We need millions of people to get together, march on washington, drag these traitors out of their offices and homes and then have some

Nurenburg trials. It’s the people that need to step up to the plate and change things, not a dictator.

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by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep just like that. Except that they should actually have WMD. How is Bush not in jail? I can get arrested for petty shit like robbing people but this fucker can order mass killings. Cool story bro.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

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by wooly shambler on Jan 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with the 2nd amendment. People should receive proper training for guns though. This go to the store and buy a gun is horseshit.

Guns , are weapons , and you should require regulations and standards to who is qualified to have them.

This is not different than driving a car at all. A car is a weapon as well.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nobody can just go to a store and buy a gun, and if you can, that store owner is doing an illegal transaction.

Every place I have ever been(like the gun store) makes you pass a REAL background check, and makes you wait 2-3 weeks.

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I have gone into the store

and walked out an hour later with a handgun.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to move to AZ :/

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

my weekend....

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you got there

Keep the goat btw ,no homes

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

My step dad has one of those.

It’s a hell of a gun.

He’s a police office though.

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by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Edsoarass:

You need to read up on your gun laws.

In Montana and Wyoming I have purchased several guns, including pistols and never had to wait more than about 5 minutes. Oh ya I also worked at a sporting goods store and called in several FBI background checks. Most of the people pass instantly with a few getting delayed.

by D.P.G.C. on Jan 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s awesome. I wish the rest of the country was like that. Your crime stats must be phenomenal.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Good stuff

made by who?

I am in the process of fitting my Bushy with Flat Dark-earth stock, handguard, mags, and grip. The contrast is real nice.

I am mirroring this,

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that sig really what they said?

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direct quote

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow those guys are more pathetic than I though.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you see the outfitted AR they did on Sons of Guns?

“AR quality, AK reliability”. Looked fucking sweet, but I doubt you will be able to get it for less than $3k

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep with the secret deal with Col. whatever

All their merch, regardless of quality, is sure to be more expensive than most any other places based on popularity and demand now.

I like American Guns better than Sons, but yes that build was awesome.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I would never buy their stuff on principal

Is American Guns the gun shop guy with the wife with the big fake uns?

That is more of a pawn show to me. I like watching them build the weapons. The gay explosions at the end I could do without.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure about that, dont recall the wife in the few episodes ive seen

cutting the frame from scratch out of a block of steel is what intrigued me and set it apart from other shows. But, like any show, it becomes more about the fake drama and fake screw ups and fake deadlines than about the art of the gun.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I have never seen that one

The other gun show I watched was some dude who went to buy guns off of people to sell in his shop.

He had a hot 18 year old daughter and wife with bike fake uns. They were very prominent (if you get my drift) in tyhe three episodes I watched til it got boring of him trying to rip guys off to resell.

I will cheack out American Guns.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

and there were two AR-15's that I got to shoot this weekend

fairly confident this one was a Colt A3 Carbine

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I had never fired one before, and I was sold after half a clip

We had coke cans set up at 150 yards, from a standing position (no tripod) I picked off 10 in row I turned around and said “I can’t be that fucking lucky”. That gun is AMAZING.

Fired two different AK-47’s – clunky pieces of shit compared to the AR.

I also fell in love with the Springfield 9MM…XP I think… so awesome.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

like my daddy always said

“clips go in hair, magazines go in guns”

Sure there are a few WWII exceptions but not for that AR ya got there :p

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I will remember that

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you buy it?

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I had a .357 passed down to me, and am going to buy the Springfield.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Springers are amazing guns

I have the Springfield TRP Operator and it is one of the smoothest guns i’ve shot.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

the one I was looking at was a perfect conceal and carry piece. You couldn’t tell it was so small.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed Duece , that’s a keeper. Man points plus 1.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't usually prefer front strap serrations

but this is beauty

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

grandpa said the same…

until he added that its wasnt completley correct. Magazines are spring loaded, clips are not.

now you know, and knowing is half the battle!

get some stripper clips for the AR, makes loading the 30 roung magazines a breeze.

by KYRedneck on Jan 23, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that is awesome man!

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That looks amazing Cali. Fucking guns are almost as pretty as women. Fuck

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not many an ass

can outdo a freshly oiled blue 1911 with dark wood grips.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

I am getting a 1911 next.

I need a bigger pistol.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Any ieas of which brand?

I’d say check out Kimber, Springfield, Colt, Dan Wesson, Wilson COmbat if you’re going above 1K.

Rock Island Arms, Kahr, and S&W are very solid for much less than the above.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw a very clean Springfiled at the local shop for $850, used.

I have never bought used guns before, but the bad economy has created some significant bargains on guns.

Any thing special I need to look out for when looking at used guns?

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never gone used

You just don’t know how the gun was taken care of and the actual round count. Of course there are plenty of diamonds out there.

General wear on bluing, take out the barrel and hold it to light. Do you see any scratches, copper fouling, or pitting? If so, move on. On a 1911 look out for the “idiot mark” above the trigger it
ll be a half moon scratch from “idiots” too hastily replacing the slide release. Also a good indicator of the previous owner’s attention do detail and care.

Dry fire and make sure nothing it hanging up.

You remember the exact model?

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't.

but I am going back this week. I will wrtie it down.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s so true. I just didn’t want to go that far for fear of sounding gay. Figured Oil Check had that area covered. But yea , fuck women.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

id say an arsenal jersey would match that weapon more

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by elmojo on Jan 23, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn that gun is awesome Duece, what is that? Is the AA 12 legal hell no right?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

auto shotgun?

no, def not legal.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d take the semi obviously. That fucking gun makes my dick hard holy shit I need that shiiiiit!

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

auto's are legal in most states

just have to go through NFA paperwork. I now lots of people who have full autos

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean a non pump shotgun?

They are definitely legal.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

a fully auto shotgun??

I am 99% that is illegal in AZ, and we have some of the most lax gun laws in the country.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Non pump (also what is commonly referred to as auto)

doesn’t have to mean full auto.

But with a 200$ tax stamps and the change to buy them, full autos are legal in many places.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hit a nerve?

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yes a nerve

i hate uneducated people that run their mouths.

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And I am running my mouth?

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

no, just other morons in this thread

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

what state do you want to know about?

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to know about the legality of Fully Automatic guns in Arizona.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

give me a minute

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

here is a good link

having trouble finding your state run website with gun laws.

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Detroit - hook me up with a link. I live in Chicago. Thanks.

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by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

you are SOL

quit electing criminals to run your city and you may have a chance. ask your aldermen(who all oppose ccw permit) how many of them carry for personal protection.

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured. Obama's boy came running over here once Daley fell flat on his face to get the Olympics here. Democrats run this city like a whore house.

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by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

democrats run that whole state like a whore house

i feel so bad for the down state people. that bullshit home rule crap is holding you whole ccw process up.

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He's looking it up

but my guess it is comes back full autos are legal with stamp of 200$

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't find any state website with gun laws

other than ccw permit process. i can find lots of third party website describing the legality, but not a state website. the link i gave shows they are legal, and if you don’t believe me just give a call to a local gun shop. they will tell you the same. sorry i could not find specific statute.

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

learn something new everyday

and we just threw our CCW laws out the window. The argument was “a woman should be able to put a gun in her purse without a permit to conceal”.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree with that

citizens should not have to pay to exercise a right. do you have to pay for a free speech permit?

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

and actually the main thinking behind that law change was

you can open carry with no permit, so why should you have to pay and be licensed if you cover it up.

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

def the logic

but people were more easily swayed with the example of a white woman in trouble.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

not fully auto

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

fully auto is legal in most states

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont think you know what i mean

you cant just hold the trigger and empty the mag

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

a full auto

where 1 trigger pull can empty a mag is legal in almost every state. all you have to do is the NFA paperwork

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Don't you just hate that word

Almost.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

yes i do

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's a map pre-1986

Fuckers.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

nice fail , fag

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

honest question…

The word “machine gun” is meant to mean fully-automatic?

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

there is my problem

I was unaware.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yah there's auto and fully auto

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

you really took the time to write that out? Seriously?

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

thats what I think

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn With a handgun? That’s sick. I definitely don’t agree with that.

Guns laws need to get stricter. People are abusing the amendment.

Too many guns are on the street , and unregistered guns should require a 20 year minimum jail sentence.

The gun laws are very similar to the steroid rules, if your not going to royally fuck someone for doing something bad of course they are going to keep doing it.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, the government is abusing and subduing the ammendment and censoring and prohibiting what our founding fathers decided as necessary as any other right we enjoy

not to mention what allowed this country to be founded on in the first place.

You are ok with your freedoms being restricted and abused? What stops them from moving on to others? SOPA is a prime example.

You think the bad guys are the ones who register their guns? Do some research on gun-related crime in areas and regions with severely strict gun laws and regions with laxed gun laws. If you have an opened ming you might come to a different conclusion.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nothing wrong with amendments evolving to suit modern life. The shit out here is disgusting , people with unregistered guns is an epidemic.

Whatever we are doing , we need to do it better. When it’s harder to get a license to drive a car then to get a gun something is wrong.

That is common sense.

Just because their are bills out their taken away our freedoms doesn’t mean every bill is.

There’s nothing wrong with requiring someone to show they are capable of having a gun through training and passing a class.

There’s no amendment being taken away , it’s just adapted and evolved to a common sense protocol that is better for everyone.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you're full of shit

amendments don’t need to evolve, that some bullshit progressive philosophy. The Founders made it SECOND for a reason. When gun s are registered the feds know exactly where to go to go get them. Are you going to pay for these “classes” or do poor people not deserve to own a gun in your mind?

Chicago and DC had gun bans for decades and still had some of the highest murder rates in the country. Gun control does not work. We havemor3e guns on our country right now than ever before and crime is going down consistently all over the country.

If you want to live in some progressive-liberal utopia where you must ask the gov’ts permission to exercise a RIGHT then go live in the peoples republik of kommiefornia, new york or one of the other liberal shithole states.

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor people do not deserve guns

I completely agree that poor people should not have guns.. Usually poor people live in ghettos so yeah no guns for the ghettos.. But yeah do gun bans work no.. Hell no they dont work.. And also “Kommiefornia” is lol..

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by Roger81 on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously???

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i really hope he was being sarcastic

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahahaha

Politics is just one big ass blast.

by Rolandando on Jan 23, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You are relating the gov. further controlling freedoms (requiring training)

to lowering gun-related crime?

The bad guys don’t register the guns. The good guys who blow their lid won’t have been affected by training upon initial buy. Guns don’t kill people anymore than your toaster burns your toast.

Not to mention if someone wants to kill someone, no law or restraint will stop them.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

you can't talk facts or comon sens to an anti-gun person

their position is completely emotional and not based on facts or law.

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not emotional , I think your the emotional one there cupcake.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The 2nd Amendment is the amendment that protects all others. In short, it is POWER.

It provides for the power to protect oneself against criminal activity from any person or entity; foreign or domestic. The Supreme Court recently clarified that the 2nd Amendment gives individuals the right to bear arms . That the right for individuals to bear arms was even up for debate might seem silly to historically informed citizens(see quotes below), but what frightened many Americans was that the ruling passed by a slim 5-4 majority. That means that four Supreme Court Judges would trample the Constitution and see Americans stripped of their power. Why?

The Second Amendment is the right that enforces all others. It embodies one of the major principles this nation was founded on; POWER lies with the individual, not the State. The right of individuals to bear arms is guaranteed by the Constitution, but we must not forget WHY it was guaranteed. America is one liberal activist judge on the Supreme Court away from losing this basic right. When defending and celebrating the Second Amendment to others let them know why we have this right and remind them that if the Second Amendment falls, their other rights are forfeit.

The founding fathers explained the 2nd Amendment in detail. Their words ring as true today as they did at the time of the founding. The 2nd Amendment doesn’t guarantee you the right to own a gun, it gives you the right to self defense, the right to abolish a tyrannical government, and it gives the common man access to POWER!

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 23, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What do the founders say about this????

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” Thomas Jefferson
“The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms” Samuel Adams

“What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty…. Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.” (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts , 1789)

“…to disarm the people – that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” (George Mason)

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” (James Madison, The Federalist Papers )

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined” Patrick Henry

“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good” George Washington

"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that the people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms…The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." THOMAS JEFFERSON

“Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms under our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?” -Patrick Henry

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 23, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

there are alot of ignorant posters on this board who know nothing about firearms in america. you want the truth???

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, cities are cutting police forces. crime should be up, but gun sales are through the roof and crime is down. an armed population is a kind and safe population. war joe horn!!!!

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 23, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Same here

Buying a Rifle…in and out. Buying a handgun with a CCL…in and out.

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by Jrandolph on Jan 23, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

wait 2-3 weeks?

where the hell do you live. I can walk into a store and buy an AK, a handgun, or any other non-NFA weapon in minutes. Or I can do them with private individuals with no check required, just the way it should be.

You know who else supported gun control?- Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, want me to keep going?

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

NYC, you guys are in the middle of nowhere with no population and no crime. Your lad laws allow these animals to run rampant in the inner cities.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah it's the guns fault

not the thugs and criminals that thrive in the inner city. ever heard of personal responsibility?

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by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

guns don't kill people chael sonnen kills people

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes please..

keep going..

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by Roger81 on Jan 23, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Edsoarass:

Your an idiot and need to read up on your gun laws.

In Montana and Wyoming I have purchased several guns, including pistols and never had to wait more than about 5 minutes. Oh ya I also worked at a sporting goods store and called in several FBI background checks. Most of the people pass instantly with a few getting delayed.

by D.P.G.C. on Jan 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

So is ANYTHING

Going to the gun store, filling out your DROS, getting your background checked for any disqualifiers and having to wait a “cooling off” period (here in CA) is what is bullshit. You’re ass backwards.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Your probably not familiar with the fact that people are getting killed everyday because of the lax gun laws.

Maybe someone in your family gets gunned down by some asshole and you’ll wake up.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Shoot ’em All. Let God Sort ’em Out.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

If we know people kill people, then restrict guns and reduce the opportunities these people have of killing. Don’t be such a scum bag, guns are unnecessary.

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by danago on Jan 23, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Please stay out of topics concerning American policy/politics/constitution…as I have told you repeatedly, it is not within your jurisdiction Danny. Keep to topics you are relevant in, like undefeated records, trolls and all other things MMA. Thank you.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You are the biggest load of jizz on this whole sight

All you do is shit lurk through threads trying to conjure up mischief with your ignorant brand of moronic trivia

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

they are not getting killed becasue of lax gun laws

they are getting killed by fucking moronic criminals. saying a gun killed someone is like saying a spoon made rosie o’donnell fat

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s not accounting for something called common sense. Guns kill people easily. It might not save everyone , but not everyone is going to have the heart to stab someone or kill a man with his bare hands.

Do hydrogen bombs not kill people either? Should we allow everyone to have them?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you're a fuckin idiot

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha come on man. That’s like the best response ever.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Do hydrogen bombs not kill people either? Should we allow everyone to have them?

We have done our damnedest to stop the rest of the world from developing nuclear weapons. How has that worked out for us?

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty good actually. We are still here right? We should take N Korea out while we still have the chance. Just use up like a quarter of our arsenal on that fucker. Fuck them. Then when they rebuild 1,000 years later , do it again.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's called deterrance.. I have a nuke, you have a nuke, if we both have nukes you won't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you

Now apply that to guns.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

So can we all get nukes? I’m half way serious here. Let’s see how this goes.

A nuke is essentially just a really bad ass gun hahahaha

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Damn I got trolled....

sonova…

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

So your lack of knowledge has turned you to trolling?

good for you.

I just hope you actually take some time to learn about what you are talking about before you go full troll next time.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t really know how to troll. I tried it like a couple of weeks ago it was pretty cool . But I’m like half way serious here.

If I troll I want to be a cool troll, don’t really know how that works.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you talk out your ass to get responses from the crowd.

being less than serious in a serious debate is trolling.

Seriously, some of the things you are saying make me frightened for the next 20 years in our country. Your willingness to not think for yourself, or get the real facts when you think you are thinking for yourself, is frightening.

I am assuming you are less than 25.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

im betting he's under 20.

and has probably never left his country, other than for war.

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by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

benefit of the doubt.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL no in fact read what I wrote above

Lax gun laws (which we dont have in many place) dont kill people anymore than a toaster does.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe where you are from. Certainly not around here. So let’s just hand out dynamite and hydrogen bombs to everyone then?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Cars kill more people than guns every year, by a pretty wide margin.

Should they be outlawed?

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Cars are created for a transportation purpose. Guns are made to kill. And look bad ass.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Guns are preventative.

The people that murder with guns are going to commit murder regardless.

But yes, guns are made to effectively kill. That is what make them preventative.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like some NRA bullshit. Preventative my ass.

And there’s nothing wrong with having guns you fucks that’s not my point.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What is your point?

Take the second amendment and throw it out the window?

Our forefathers put the right to bear arms #2. NUMBER FUCKING TWO in the most important additions to the Constitution of our Republic.

You need to understand why. It isn’t because of illegal guns.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No the point is to do something about the problem . Period. You figure something out fucking smart ass fucko

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I have

I own many guns, plenty of ammo and have acquired the skills, and mental fortitude, to kill someone in self-defense if I need to.

Hopefully I never need to.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like I’m getting a hydrogen bomb the . Cool

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s the stupidest hillbilly argument ever created by fuckin dumb rednecks.

Guns are made to kill people. Toasters are not. Wow that’s a hard concept to get isn’t it?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Guns are made to kill people

Is that all they are for? I didn’t realize.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

And looking bad ass . Bad ass enough to make you hate women for a second.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The metaphor

Was do you blame the tool or the user.

A gun is a paperweight without an employer. I kill you, you blame me or the gun? You burn your toast, is the tool blamed or the moron who decided to taking his morning shit before popping his toast out.

You are showing your ignorance in a topic which you are apparently greatly unarmed (pun intended) to compete in.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

If you grow a goatee and have a gun in your hands - should you be registered as a lethal weapon? Deuce may be illegal in some states with that pic, brother.

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by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Guns are cool. Making it too easy to get guns and stay under the radar is not.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No the people of America should be qualified to do so.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why not , we decide if he can drive or not right?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

no , not right

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

god your stupid

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I know you're not talking to me

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL, Ive seen you do this before

Hit “up”

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i hit it and nothing

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Not on your post, the comment which you think might be in response to you

HIt up on Detroits comment and it will take you to the comment he replied to

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

no

p123

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You Guys are being selfish, your only worried about small issues. There has to be something better regarding gun laws in general.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So requiring training to have a gun equivilant to driving a car is stupid? Right.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yes, it is

where does the 2A say i have to have training? who is paying for this? people should not have to pay to exercise a RIGHT!

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

A gun should be at least as hard as getting a car, you seriously disagreeing with that?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

no, it's the reason we're still "kind of" free

And I say “kind of” because if you think you are totally free you’re just an idiot. The people in charge know that a few million in their country have weapons. That’s why you aren’t on complete thought control lock down right now.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

yes i am!

what is so hard to understand about this for you? owning or driving a car is a PRIVILEGE. owning a firearm is a RIGHT. the government should not be able to tax a right, and that’s exactly what you are doing if you require any kind of training or permit.

out of curiosity, what state do you live in?

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Detroit_Fan For The Win!

Either all of the constitution is worth defending…or none of it is. The 1st and 2nd Amendments are written as clear as possible.

If people have an issue with this, then simply amend the constitution

…good luck with that

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by Jrandolph on Jan 23, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

or go the obama direction

and try to fuck the Constitution by activist judicial appointees.

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

or that

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by Jrandolph on Jan 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

NYC.

Really? So guns require zero training ? Why not learn from a professional? Pass some courses or something keep things regulated.

Obviously this government would make it impossible to do , but in a perfect world that has to make sense no?

Shit they should make gun training replace bowling or whatever silly class they have. That would be awesome,

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 3:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gun training is something passed down to you from a family member typically.

I shot my first .22 at age 5. My first muzzleloader at age 8. My first .357 and .410 shotgun at age 10.

I grew up with guns and learned to respect them. it is easy when you see the death that guns can cause (to animals).

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit if it was up to me, gun training would be required. Everyone would have to know how to shoot and clean a gun properly or they wouldn’t pass high school.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

good thing not many things are left up to you then.

training for a ccl is required. not many people own guns that don’t know how to use them. they may not be experts, but they get the basic idea.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 23, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

which should be illegal

having to pay ot exercise a right should be a crime. do you have to pay for a free speech permit? how about having to pay to vote (ruled unconstitutional)

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

shall your neighbor decide if you should watch mma or not?

what else should your neighbor be able to decide for you?

by seh on Jan 23, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

How is watching MMA anything like everyone running around with guns like cowboys fucking retard,

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If your neighbor should have the authority to decide whether or not you are allowed to have the means to protect yourself from criminals who would do you harm, then shouldn’t they also have the authority to decide whether or not you should be allowed to watch a violent sport such as mma? Answer the question, dipshit. Or else just STFU.

by seh on Jan 23, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

End of story

Bullshit anti-constitutional bastards. Fuck FOX.

You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

not just fox

all major media is anti2A

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Gosh your dumb

No one believe Fox is anit constitution. Everyone and I mean everyone knows the left or democrats want to change the constitution. Hell there are even admitted Socialist in the democratic party. Try reading a book sometime.

There are three types of people in this world; sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Which one are you?

by daxawyes on Jan 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It is not a left or right issue.

WAKE UP

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

But I will submit to you that there are few at all on the left fighting for the constitution while on the right, true conservatism is fighting for it proudly! You have to pick the candidates with the proper ideals.

There are three types of people in this world; sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Which one are you?

by daxawyes on Jan 23, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Not any with name recognition

Aside from Ron Paul that’s the only one I can think of on either side that’s worth a damn, and his son Rand is a chip off the old block. Ulf’s right though, special interests own both parties.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

and his son Rand is a chip off the old block.

Please don’t say that. His son Rand is full retard

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

How exactly?

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe I'm just lumping him in with the T-partiers

but I can’t remember hearing anything worth while coming out of his mouth.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The Tea Party's original messaage was sound

but allowing Palin and Beck to dominate it was wrong. The same thing would have happened to Occupy had they named a leader. Someone else would have manipulated their way to the front.

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This

Politics is just one big ass blast.

by Rolandando on Jan 23, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not that bad at all, he tries at least.

Rand vs the TSA

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57363889-503544/rand-paul-in-tsa-showdown-after-refusing-pat-down/

Rand vs SOPA PIPA

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/18/rand-paul-promises-to-filibuster-pipa/

Rand vs NDAA

http://www.infowars.com/senator-rand-paul-on-ndaa-sopa-indefinite-detention-of-american-citizens/

Guy is taking the right stances IMO.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take a look when I get home tonight

and let you know if my opinion has wavered at all.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

ODHGC

Thanks for posting these, I agree he is taking the right stances on these issues. I will have to do some more searching to see where he stands on some other issues that I feel are important to the future of the country and my family.

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck Left and Right. What’s with all that nonsense, why do we have to label everything.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

because we label things that are different dipshit. left and right leaning ideologies are very real and you can tell alot about a person by their politics and how consistent they are in their beliefs.

the problem with this country is the marshmellows in the middle, the so called “moderates” that make up their mind based on what the media tells them. they lack core convictions.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 23, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

you're stuck in this conservative vs liberal mode

people need to stop having allegiance to a political party and start voting based on allegiance to the constitution and the bill of rights. Newt Gingrich btw, is a scumbag.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 24, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

ummm, conservative and liberal are not political parties smartguy.

constitution and bill of rights???? you sound like a tea party member. the only thing i need to know about newt is that he was the last person to balance the federal budget. the guy is just what this country needs right now.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 24, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 Zuffa's siding with Tyranny

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Go watch ice skating

I had no idea there were so many little biatches on this site. You guys are a disgrace. Go watch ice skating.

There are three types of people in this world; sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Which one are you?

by daxawyes on Jan 23, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a question...

Should I go watch ice skating?

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

only real men watch ice skating

those bitches are hot

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

so are the chicks.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

so because we use these examples to discuss pertinent issues facing our country

we are little bitches? That is some awesome logic.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

+1000 Duece

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Because you guys claim to love watching fighting

But are scared of the 2nd amendmant and support a company whose trying to be politically correct. Its a violent sport but we cant have fighters sponsered by gun stores. Wow. Bitches.

There are three types of people in this world; sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Which one are you?

by daxawyes on Jan 23, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

martial arts is the opposite of guns.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Not according to Frank Mir.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

not true

owning a gun, to me, is about self-defense. As is martial arts.

Example: Krav Magha (sp?) It teaches to end the fight as quickly as possible, hopefully with a gun.

Most martial arts were invented before the wide-spread usage of gunpowder (judo, karate, TKD, etc), or were created for those situations when you were out of ammo (sambo, krav magha)

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Krav Maga will teach you how to disarm someone with a gun...not that I recommend it.

But when you own a gun all you have to know is how to flex your finger. It’s not an art.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you really think that?

Most competition shooters are in better shape than some UFC fighters.

I never said it was an art. I said it was self-defense. One of the many options for self-defense that are available. If somoeone’s solution to self-defense is to go out, buy a gun, and put it in their closet, “just in case”, I would recommend that they buy pepper spray instead. Cheaper, easier to use and as effective for their purposes.

Get your zen shit out of here before I cap your ass…;)

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you nailed it on the head right here...
“somoeone’s solution to self-defense is to go out, buy a gun, and put it in their closet, "just in case",

it’s the best bang for your buck, and that’s what people see. pepper spray aint gonna do what a gun does. and whats cheaper and more effective? taking a martial arts class twice a week, putting your body through wear and tear just so you can throw a guy or flex your finger a few times and the threat is done?

you dont have to be a competitive shooter to shoot a gun. even if you miss your threat target…just flex your finger a few more times.

and this line is just ridiculous:

" Most competition shooters are in better shape than some UFC fighters."

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, maybe not most, but some, lol.

My first archery instructor was a national level competition shooter (.22 pistols). He benched 400 pounds, could run a 5 minute mile, and used to bike 50 miles in a day. He also used to spar (boxing) for 10- 5 minute rounds. The 5 or so competitions I went to, everyone was in that kind of shape, or very close.

You can’t tell me that every UFC fighter is in shape. the number of guys that gas is atrocious for this level.

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to be anal (not being facetious), the best, most effective way of true self defense is to run away. A long range weapon is a close second, unless the other person has one as well and is a better shot.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed.

Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think I could bring myself to run for it if someone pulls a gun on me

I know most likely they aren’t going to shoot but you never know 100% for sure.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck. you got shot at bro? for real?

"Jack of all trades, Master of none. Master of few, Jack everyone."- Greg Nelson

by A.K on Jan 23, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. I am very lucky it was a piece of shit street thug. I still needed an adult diaper, though.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

man

I have had a piece or two pulled out, and had a guy shooting one in the air at a party I was at, but never at me. Fucking hell.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He was high on something and mistook me for somebody else. Of course, I found all of this out AFTER the incident. I was too busy making a bronze blur to give a shit the how and why...

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I had a guy chase me with a gun but luckily I didn’t get shot. Although, we went down there to buy coke, and my idiot friend got robbed, so I brought the ol crowbar and started banging on the kids windows to his projects or whatever. Man, those windows don’t break for shit huh? I hit that fucker hard as I could like 3 times. 2 of them ran in the building, the other ran up the block and started fiddling for something on a car tire. By then, I knew what time it was and got the hell out of there. I was probably really lucky he didn’t run up to me in my car and blow my brains out.

Ah , youth.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You were hit the lottery, bang the super model in Hawaii, survive a plane crash lucky. Very, very lucky. Sitting in a car = fish in a barrel.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m confused OJR. You trying to say I’m making the story up?

I seen him run one way, then I was like, Oh, he’s getting a gun, so we ran about half a block the other way to the car, had to get it started unlocked and everything.

It was just pure luck, or fate, or whatever. I’ve been in numerous life threatening situations, I never gave a shit about my life, and it showed by a lot of my actions.

If he wanted to, I’m sure he could have caught up and killed me right before I pulled away. But luckily, I ran into a guy who wasn’t blood thirsty. Lucky me. And yes, I realize what a dumbass I was, but I didn’t give a shit about nothing when I was younger.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I posted that you were very, very lucky to be alive or not in a wheel chair, or having a colostomy bag or worse.

"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)

by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh shit, comprehension was not my friend right there. My bad. Yea that was crazy lucky.

That friend of mine is a crazy bastard I got some awesome stories about him.

He actually jumped out of my car coming over the Whitestone Bridge when I was going 55 mph. He’s a sick maniac.

People who are too smart for their own good are big fucking problems. And me, I didn’t care if I was alive or not, so I was always down to do some crazy shit.

That crazy bastard just jumped out through the window, like nothing, because he asked me " Do you dare me to jump out of your car " . Hahahah.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck that noise

crackhead with a gun?? Fuckin hell.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Drug dealers. My friend, who was one of the genius physocotics, and we went to a really expensive school together, and he was like 99% in everything, went to the rebel / drug route. He hung around some shady creepy people, still does, and he had his friend, who is a little weak white kid, buying coke from drug dealers from Yonkers projects, haha, so he got robbed quick. So I was like oh yea, let me show you how you treat these fucks. Haha, they definitely got a big surprise from me! Luckily I didn’t die for it though, but it’s possible I cared about my life even less than those fucks. ahha

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Fighting people with guns is so easy. Just give up. Ok you win. Case solved.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Your forgot the last step

praying that s/he doesn’t get sketchy and execute you where you stand.

You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"

by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That could happen. People generally don’t kill people for no reason though, I like my chances. Some prefer to pull out a gun and kill the guy, I’m ok with this style.

But if that fool tries to get too crazy I’m punching him in the face, and we can find out if he’s really ready to kill.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

In the moment, everyone has to decide

what is the best course of actin for themselves and their family.

I’d rather bring a gun to a gun fight, than a pair of knuckles, but I like to play on an even field, preferably with an advantage.

You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"

by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It depends. A lot of these scenarios happen in bar scenes. Unless your speaking of just doing family stuff and some random thug tries to do something then I would agree, we should all have guns.

Me personally, I never cared, figured it would work out and heck, if that fucker isn’t ready to kill / die, he’s fucked because I always was. Always waited for that opportunity to finally get to kill someone and not go to jail. Self Defense is a savior!

But, doing the family thing, I definitely want a gun 24/7.

Where do I need to move to to be able to carry a concealed weapon legally in NY? I’ll move there.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I see you can read, that is a good first step

now step two…comprehension.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Politics is just one big ass blast.

by Rolandando on Jan 23, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

My comprehension is fine, your missing my point here duecey..

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I think we understand how mainstream works and would like to watch our sport develop, which would bring in more money, which would bring in better fighters, which could lead to more free fights.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought FOX was one if the most conservative broadcasting companies out there....

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Fox is moderate , everyone else is liberal but fox just doesn't want true violence being associated with a "sport" they show and promote

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 23, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you couldn't have just meant what you said about fox being moderate

Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark

by HitokiriX on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

FOX is moderate?

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yea i don't know where dude got the balls to say that

Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark

by HitokiriX on Jan 23, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s Rush Limbaugh is some piece of shit.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Eh I don't think he's any worse than Keith Olbermann, I am not a fan of either one of them anymore.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet your dumbass never listened to him one time.

Dumbass!

There are three types of people in this world; sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Which one are you?

by daxawyes on Jan 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Talkin about Rush "The Greatest"

There are three types of people in this world; sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Which one are you?

by daxawyes on Jan 23, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on man.

Rush Limbaugh is one of the biggest assdouches, and his support for Newt Gingrich is proves that.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

And he smokes cigars.

"Haven’t we had about enough of this cigar smoking shit in this country?…Sigmund Freud said ‘Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.’ Oh, yeah? Well, sometimes it’s a big, brown dick, with a fat, arrogant, white-collar business criminal asshole sucking on the wet end of it." -George Carlin

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Listened to enough from him to know he's not on our side

When he calls Ron Paul “nuts on parade” and acts like saying “Ching chong ching chong” over and over again is speaking chinese that pretty much tells me what I need to know.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

p123 is one piece of shit.

There are three types of people in this world; sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Which one are you?

by daxawyes on Jan 23, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey? Why am I a piece of shit, fuck you fag.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s not a bad thing. I like the UFC tightening up that tie. It’s a good look. This sport will continue to get better and better.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Good move......

…should have been done long ago.

by Taiter on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

fuck you

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

he's from Detroit.

that’s reason enough.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh

Business decision, plain and simple. I couldn’t care less really. I own plenty of guns, but I wont buy one from gunstore.com just cause it’s plastered on Matt Serra’s rear entry point either

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

Considering the number of good pawn shops near me.

I would never buy a retial gun again.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here

Although, the last semi auto I bought at a pawn shop gave me trouble. Revolvers are always a safe bet. I will buy the used semi’s at a place I know though.

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by Jrandolph on Jan 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Lot of rage over this…not sure why.

by otherdarkmeat on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

does this mean no more marines ads?

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by elmojo on Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

No that's okay.

Self defense is bad, but soldiers for the war machine is good.

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ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to protect oue $3/gallon gas.

Did anyone see that India and China are bartering for gasoline with Iran and skipping the settling transaction in US Dollars?

Iraq started settling oil accounts with the Euro 6 months before we invaded.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Mainstream = Death.. should have stayed with spike !! lol

by MMA Dan on Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

Speaking of dirty……. :)

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

lol fuck u cali

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ppv isnt effected

some fighters will get screwed if they fight for a fox card and they are sponsored under by ammo

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by elmojo on Jan 23, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

This is wrong on so many levels

Even if you are not a gun supporter. The UFC gets blasted because of (allegedly) low pay, but now they want to tell their fighters who else can pay them? How is that not a monopoly?

by msdough99 on Jan 23, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

How Un-Americain

Banning access to guns and the right to download. Onward Christian Soldiers!

by charlyw on Jan 23, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

What's wrong with gun?

I only see a problem with people who use them for wrong.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 23, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

In reality - Nothing

But, FOX believes it will bring a negative image. So many decisions are made on perception.

by otherdarkmeat on Jan 23, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

And once against, the fighters make less money because some one else is being dumb.

Guns aren’t bad, they’re just dangerous. I’ve never been around guns or even fired one but I have no fear of them unless the wrong person has it, everyone else should feel the same way. Stupid FOX.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

About the less money part

Fox/UFC believes that no gun sponsors will equal growing the sport with more fans/money in the future. They could make the case that the increased revenue would trickle down to the actual fighters.

Short term, this hurts the fighters, but it may not long term.

by otherdarkmeat on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll just have to see I guess.

Still kinda wack.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Disgusting!

This is fuckling America, guns are a huge part of our history and culture.

"If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective."

by detroit_fan on Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

Implying that is a good thing.

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by danago on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It isn't am implication. It is a statement in truth

Since everyone else likes to play along that you are English, you should know why we are no longer a colony of your “Homeland”.

How have you been Cr8? Been awhile since dana’s liberal personality was on here?

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

one of the very few times i agree with Danago.

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by Two_Words on Jan 23, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck the UFC

Just fight. If I wanted politics and lobbying I’d watch CNN. I can’t remember the last time I paid for a UFC ppv. Shit like this is why. First it was Justintv, then SOPA, now gun control. What the fuck? Just fight.

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by HonkeyKong on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

Damn, I'd hate to be the person who stole his Twinkie.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

12 year olds are not allowed to own pellet guns??

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I can understand this decision

I really hope ZUFFA has the decency to take care of the guys at the Gun Store for all of their help getting them to where they are. Maybe give them some free advertising elsewhere.

This is like when the artist starts making it big and can no longer use their parents as their “manager”

by otherdarkmeat on Jan 23, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

Things you must do in order to go mainstream

Leaving my personal opinions about guns and gun control aside. I assume all of us here want MMA and the UFC to get the notoriety that it deserves. Its easy for us to forget that most people think UFC is a sport or that TNT, MMA, UFC, and WWE all stand for the same thing. In order to appeal to the mainstream advertisers, you have to advertise things that are not controversial. Sorry, but guns, ammo and hunting, like it or not, are controversial – Supporting the military is not. While the UFC was (maybe still is for a while more), it was able use controversial advertisers but in order to take the next step and not be considered a bunch of “tattooed blood thirsty animals” or whatever crap they think out there, you have to make concessions.

BTW
While I was watching the Football game yesterday I kept thinking about that guy (cant remember who it was) on TV that said MMA fighters are all tattooed (as if that’s not okay). I think I counted about 10 people on the field that didnt have visible tattoos and those were the coaches. So the “clean cut – okay to watch” football players can have tattoos and are not considered inbred blood thirsty lowlifes?

by Assafkip on Jan 23, 2012 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 23, 2012 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

There you go readin my mind again bro

"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,

I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."

by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jan 23, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no legitimate reason to have a handgun.

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by danago on Jan 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

+1, even though pluses don't do shit.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Please tell me that the next time you get mugged

The last guys that tried to mug me only saw the handle of my .357 and decided to turn around and walk away.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

No goatee? That does it for me. And the sight of my beautiful bronze skin.

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by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Self defence is not a legitimate reason. You have a ridiculous amount of deaths by guns, our gun violence is almost non-existent.

What happens when someone with a gun mugs you? Goes to shoot you, misses and hits your child in the dome.

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by danago on Jan 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Lmao.

After the UK banned handguns, death by handguns went up 300%

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ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

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by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The bad guys didn't turn in their guns? What? No way?

When you take away the guns, the only ones who have them are the bad ones.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt.

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by OJR on Jan 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Our numbers are DOWN, look at the numbers, fool. Yours on the other hand are ridiculously high. I don’t want to live in a society where my kids life is at greater risk when walking to school.

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by danago on Jan 23, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to live in a society where you are allowed to have children.

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ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

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by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

What happens when someone with a gun mugs you?

He is dead by my hand, as I can guarantee that I have fired more rounds through my weapon and have a better comfort zone with my weapon than any mugger.

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by Ulf Murphy on Jan 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope a home invasion is destined in your near future.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be in his favor

as long as they’re at least 3 dudes.

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by OilCheck on Jan 23, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as it's THESE 3 dudes

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ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

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by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

american guns kill mexican "people"!

well, they actually do kill innocent people from time to time though we like to believe is mostly criminals shooting each other.

but take that, you silly american gun laws! On the bright side, the mexican drugs are killing america slowly through incresed public health bills and reckless driving, so there’s that.

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by vhw_ on Jan 23, 2012 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

We send you guns, you send us drugs

The way of the world today.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

can't you send us beer? or girls, even?

not the fat ones, the “scene” hot ones. The hollywood type too.

that’d be much appreciated!

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by vhw_ on Jan 23, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I also think cops should use non lethal weapons.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

criminals wouldn't go for it

so yeah, not gonna happen

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by vhw_ on Jan 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

A shotgun with bean bags fuck you up. Just cause its non lethal doesn’t mean you don’t get fucked up.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That still doesn't change the fact that the criminal can still fire off one lethal round and kill the officer.

Your argument is the same failed argument.

You take away guns from law abiding citizens and police officers…CRIMINALS STILL HAVE GUNS.

Do you honestly think they will just give their guns? Really? Are you that naive?

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ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

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by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Food for thought

Replace the word “criminal” with “terrorist” and read your post again. Just an interesting thing to think about when you look at how we’re policing the globe.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want us policing the world.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

ItalianStallion54 fondles himself to thougts of family members..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 23, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I didn't say you did

I just think that the new world for “criminal” is becoming “terrorist”. One tactic those in power like to use, when trying to get an agenda across is to just call the same thing something else. It’s a great tactic because unless someone knows better or looks into it it just doesn’t register. People don’t usually think that way.

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

word*

I live in America! Land of the coward, home of the slave. Watch that TV, go to that football game, that circus, CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other mainstream media are not owned by large corporations, they are always honest and fair and they never lie to you. Whatever you do don't read history books, don't study the constitution, do everything you can possibly do to be happy in life. Just don't ever get involved in your government, big brother will take care of you. Your elected officials always do what's in your best interest, there is no corruption in our government, good little sheep, just make yourself happy, just entertain yourself, the government is only here to entertain you and take care of you and feed you and make you happy, don't you worry your little head over world affairs.

by O damn he got caught on Jan 23, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

google fast and the furious you ignorant fool. the government sent guns to mexico by the thousands in order to inflate the number of guns going to mexico

to build a case for more gun control. the truth is that most of mexico’s guns, grenade launchers, machine guns come from overseas.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 23, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

So guns legal but lawndarts aren't?

Thats it I’m moving to Canada

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by Garbanzo on Jan 23, 2012 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

ban

When is the ban supposedly effective? Josh Neer wore AMMO to GO this Saturday night on the FX show!

by drewjitsu82 on Jan 23, 2012 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

the best part

and the most overlooked…he is too fat for the stall.

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn that fucker is fat. I want to get in an eating contest with that guy, so jealous.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The gun talk got too crazy, I had to duck out of there, I was getting shot up.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

wanna start a fat thread?

obesity and firearms are both major problems here in the US.

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by OilCheck on Jan 23, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell no! Not with you fucker. I’ve seen way too much poop, and gay stuff for a lifetime. I hate you for what you’ve done to me!

Shit, I was thinking of how to make a perfect government thread. Or how to fix the world in like 10 steps thread. Figured we could have fun with that.

Or we could do another gun thread, but now that I want a gun, I probably won’t be as much fun.

I still think a little training couldn’t hurt. But fuck it, give me one of those bad boys.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m starting to buy into this cowboy shit. Where am I allowed to conceal a weapon legally?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

NY, much like CA has very strict

gun laws, and is a May-issue as opposed to shall-issue.

I am no expert and you should do some research, but on the whole, you’re fucked for concealed carry, just like I am.

Here is a NRA link with various info. on NY guns laws.

http://www.nraila.org/gunlaws/nyc.aspx

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn liberal states. But aren’t gun laws essentially illegal to make?

Damn man, you going to really make me read? Can’t you just summarize? Can I have a concealed weapon or not?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

No you're fucked

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck. That’s bullshit.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

So I guess you gotta play the, hey can you stop mugging me now, and come back to my house and try again game?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

essentially

but remember,

“it’s better to be judged by twelve, than carried by six”

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell no, prison sucks man, rather be dead. Depends on what kind of time we are talking about to.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you been convicted of a felony (if you dont mind me asking)

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. And I only got arrested once and the charges were dropped. So I don’t have any issues concerning that.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

master p?

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by ClinchKing on Jan 23, 2012 10:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Come to AZ

no permit required for conceal and carry. Merica!

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by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I got a good city job here, and guys like me are very lucky to get a good job. Although now, I’m a good citizen and can keep a job, I still wouldn’t risk it. Family as well. About to make 85k a year in a year or two, that’s pretty good money if you can get a house a little upstate of NYC.

Arizona sounds great though. So dude, you just walk around with a gun all the time? That’s so fucking awesome. Do people never get into fights there or something? If everyone has a gun, I’d expect no one wants to fuck around?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

not everywhere, but most people I know have a gun in their car at all times and a gun on the nightstand.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That is definitely awesome. So what’s the rules? If someone tries to mug you , you can shoot them in self defense?

Can you kill anyone who comes on your lawn?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You just wanna ground someone, I have a feeling.

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, yea man you have a sixth sense. Haha. Na, I’m ok, I have my little girl now, I’m just trying to be an upstanding citizen in every facet of life. There’s just so many pieces of shit out here, wish they could make being a vigilante a job or something. Some people are just born this way to want to take out the trash.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I know

AZ is the shit

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You kids are still posting on this? I thought we established that guns are always a bad idea, and that America is trash? Come on kids, move along.

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by danago on Jan 23, 2012 5:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Haha. Na dude, I definitely want to be able to carry a gun now. It’s my right as an American. I wonder if an AA12 can fit in my pants. ahhahahahahaa.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

there is plenty of room

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 23, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, so how can I do this? I want to be ready to fire when someone looks at my family. Man, the level of safety would be genuinely awesome. Fucking NYC definitely won’t allow shit though. Gotta move upstate.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to be ready to fire when someone looks at my family.

Whether you are in the right or not in a shooting, you’re going to be spending money, time, and incur levels of stress not before known.

With great power comes great responsibility. Carrying a weapon requires a cool head in the midst of situations where you might act differently if not carrying.

If you ever are involved, remember this one rule ABOVE ALL ELSE.

“Shoot, and shutup”

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahah awesome. Yea dude, I could see the anxiety attacks coming, I’m a bit on the crazy bastard side too, I’ll start looking for any hints of anyone needing to be shot hahahaa.

Or how about once your adjusted with weapon, and then your without, you’ll freak. Well, that;s why we train MMA right?

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Carry a gun and you’re a coward.

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by danago on Jan 23, 2012 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You wanna fight?

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by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

you can do better

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You can all carry guns and continue to kill each other off for all I care. You’re a reflection of your Goverment, bottom of the heap savages.

I will deck you all, you can’t be sure to have ammo on you at all times. You don’t carry the thing around with you at all times. My two iron fists are with me at all times and I believe I’m prepared to swing whenever.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 23, 2012 6:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think it's time to change your sig

I went 0-2 against Phasebook. Why do I feel that I am just padding his record?" Next time I won’t pick a guy whose best weapon is a somersault against a real bad guy like Scarface.
Check out what I've been drinking lately

by ShivanTiger on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit you did quit the turn around in one thread!

You have been banned from Bloody Elbow.
I don’t know what you said, but I don’t like you.
12/22/11
"You actually got banned 3 times in 2 minutes by 3 different people"

by *Californication* on Jan 23, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I did. I thought what I was asking was quite reasonable. Just some moderate training. Want to drive a car? Here let me show you how. Want to play basketball? Sure, hold on. Want to shoot a gun? Here, you got this man, you don’t need any guidance, blast off kiddo!

Just didn’t make sense. But, really, my whole issue, is these fucking gang members with unregistered guns. The registered people’s stats I’m sure are like nothing, it’s these fucking pieces of shit who are carrying illegal guns all day every day, and they are still around. It’s ridiculous. We need the Punisher.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

you are finally get back on point

I was worried man, you were slipping.

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 23, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, well I’m a bit loose man. You read some of the stuff earlier right? Pacifying ourselves because these animals are out of control, is stupid. I just didn’t look at it from the right angle.

I’m just tired of these guys, every day in the paper someone else is killing someone. This is no way to live. People are terrible.

by p123 on Jan 23, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  


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