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Dana White: Nick Diaz vs Georges St. Pierre could happen this summer

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Embrace the hate, y'all.

Apparently that's what UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre has done while he's been on the sidelines rehabbing his torn up knee. And it's helping the process along nicely, according to UFC President Dana White.

If he keeps going like he's going, White believes it's entirely possible the 170-pound king can "Rush" back into action this summer, far sooner than the target return date of November St. Pierre pegged recently on an episode of Inside MMA.

As White explains to Ariel Helwani, the French-Canadian is motivated by the extreme hate he feels for Nick Diaz. And he's praying every night that he beats Carlos Condit at UFC 143 on Feb. 4 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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"GSP's rehab could not be going better. I kid you not, he texts me every day. Tonight during the fight, he was texting me pictures of him kicking, of him doing things. He says, 'I am praying every night when I go to bed that Nick Diaz wins this fight.' I have never seen Georges St. Pierre hate somebody. He hates Nick Diaz. I've never seen him hate somebody. I've never seen him so motivated to fight somebody and to beat somebody as he is Nick Diaz. He's ahead of schedule now, being the freak of nature that he is and the hard worker and dedicated athlete that he is, I think he's going to be back sooner than doctors anticipated. (Perhaps the summer time), yes."

So if everything works out over the winter, we could be looking at Junior dos Santos vs. Alistair Overeem for the heavyweight championship, Chael Sonnen vs. Anderson Silva for the middleweight crown and Nick Diaz vs. Georges St. Pierre to unify the welterweight titles.

Let's not be hasty, though.

St. Pierre's knee injury was such that if he returns sooner than he should and something goes wrong, the results could be disastrous. Career-ending, even. Is that really worth the risk?

Then again, he really is a freak of nature and maybe it will all work out in the end. Or maybe Carlos Condit will defeat Diaz and none of this will matter come Feb. 5.

Stay tuned, Maniacs.

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Now are there any posters on this site that believe a good ol'wrassler will be the kryptonite of diaz..?

..or are you all actually super intelligent?

My daddy didn't come to my play in 2nd grade so now I do MMA.

by RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer on Jan 21, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I am not completely sold on that. His pure BJJ is better but I dont think his MMA JJ is better

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

MMA JJ?

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well his Jiu Jitsu functional in mixed martial arts. Being good in the Gi and doing well in no-Gi grappling matches do not always translate well into MMA.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

r u being serious?

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

of course I am. Why wouldnt I be? You are telling me that Nick Diaz has ever showed his BJJ translate against world class wrestlers in MMA? Because you can be a black belt in BJJ like Royce Gracie and still come into MMA and be dominated by a wrestler (Matt Hughes)

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hughes isnt just a wrestler

He also has black belt level BJJ

Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!

by PHISH_NATION on Jan 21, 2012 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

wtf

are you talking about? “black belt level”? Compared to his standup?

Hughs is all wrestler, and not very good at that; slower than molasses.

by charlyw on Jan 21, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He's actually right

Joe rogan said it himself, not that his word is prophecy lol. From the people I know who have personally rolled with Royce, they all say he’s about purple belt level by today’s standards, this coming from teammates of mine from AKA. Let’s be honest, Royce was tapping ppl out back when nobody in mma knew wtf jiu jitsu was….. That’s like when I tap out my buddies just fuckin around. Matt owned Royce on the ground, nearly submitting him. He passed mounted and took Royce’s back with ease. His armbar on Georges was beautiful, and his submission of Riggs was crafty too. Matt is a very good submission grappler, to call him black belt level is obviously debatable but not ludicrous.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

True enough.

His submission of GSP was indeed a thing of beauty. So was his front headlock on Almeida.

All in all, Hughes has 20 wins via submission and only 4 losses via submission. I do not respect the man, but I do respect his ground skills.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Jan 22, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

matt is more of a black belt

than rashad will ever be and only one of them was actually awarded said belt. That’s bullshit

pride never die.

by vhw_ on Jan 22, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Incorrect.

Hughes has NO belt in bjj, he just trained with jeremy horn, who is a black belt.

by WallyBallz on Jan 22, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick has competed in some high level no gi competitions. Believe me, I’ve trained with him. He’s far superior on the ground, which is funny considering people like to label Nick as a dumbass. I’d like to see Nick roll with Werdum, personally.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Isnt that a little too much of a size mis-match?

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

nope see gunnar nelson vs jeff monson

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I will have to check that out. I doubt I have ever seen that match. How does it go down?

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUaB5jrAA4

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

have a look

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If you wanna talk pure JJ

Its our good friend Vinny Magalhaes you wanna roll with

Shoulda seen the armbar Werdum had him in at thew ADCC last year and didnt tap

What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me

I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog

LMAO

by Rampagelangford on Jan 21, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Vinny was a trainer at Cesar Gracies...

When nick was still a brown belt. Nick probably spent a good amount of time learning from Vinny.

by Jaysleazy on Jan 21, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP couldn't even perform blue belt submissions on Dan Hardy.

He may be a good defensive BJJ practioner, but his offense is laughable at best.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

His passing of the guard is second to none in MMA. So I would say his offense is not laughable.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

"His passing of the guard"

Just stop please.

Every wrestler has good “passing of the guard.”

Well every one except T-Wood. I don’t think he even knows what passing the guard is.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 21, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Good? GSPs is great.

Everyone has an opinion, if you do not like mine that is okay. Guard passing is just as much a part of Jiu Jitsu as submissions.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You are just a ridiculous individual.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 21, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Why because I dont see what you see? Because my opinion differs from yours? Maybe you should be more open minded on public forums.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit

You sound retarded

my sigs the best

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Jan 22, 2012 3:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

GSP's guard passing is second to no man

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by unambig on Jan 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

second to none?

youre really short changing G-sot right there!

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 21, 2012 4:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

gsp is great, soto is just good

bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader

by Burlzilla129 on Jan 22, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrestler...

That is the thing everyone seems to forget about GSP. He was not a wrestler when he came into the UFC. He was a kickboxer. Listen this is the thing. GSP is a more of a well rounded mixed martial artist than a lot of his peers. And has just as many ways to win this fight than Diaz does. If not more.

by RazorBlades on Jan 21, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP has one way to win and we all know what that is......

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Jan 21, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Passing Hardys guard is hardly an achievement.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 21, 2012 4:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He has passed everyones guard that he has taken down

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

How many of his opponents posses the skills Nick does on the ground? Thiago is a striker, Koscheck is a wrestler, Hardy is not great at anything.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

how about matt serra?

by ibeffudled on Jan 21, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 21, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

However, everything pre Matt Serra is irrelevant. That GSP no longer exists. The GSP of late has failed to execute submissions and failed to capitalize when in dominant positions.

Nick schools GSP on the ground, easily.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 21, 2012 4:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

if you mean by becoming the only person to ever stop bj penn, battering fitch and koscheck in ways nobody else ever could, being the first man to beat jake shields in like 6 years and beating both alves and hardy in that time

by ibeffudled on Jan 21, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

the question here shouldn’t even be about GSP not finishing people, it should be can nick diaz stop GSP? no.. he got submitted once and learned from it. diaz will be on his back, and trying to throw his pillow punches at somebody actually moving around not just a stationary target

by ibeffudled on Jan 21, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Pillow punches???

Lol he’s the only guy to TKO Daley, & did you see what he did to BJs face??? You sound ridiculous

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You are the one who is ridiculous

You’re also absurd, moronic and just not a very clear thinker. Diaz didn’t TKO Dlaey or smash BJ’s face with the power of his punches. He did it with an accumilation of punches. Everyone knows that except you El Woppo.

by DerSpiegel on Jan 22, 2012 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

his punch's are harder than they look

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 22, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

don't mention hardy in your argument.

Matt Hughes stopped BJ before GSP did. Nice Try.
Johny Hendricks killed Fitch worse than GSP.
Koscheck lost to Diego Sanchez
Your argument is terrible.

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by Cruz Jackson on Jan 21, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The only thing that matters is GSP has fought against some of the best 170 pounders in MMA. Who has Nick Diaz beaten lately? A BJP who is out of shape and was clearly fighting in the wrong weight class.

by RazorBlades on Jan 21, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Gsp's mma jits is shit hot

Just because he is not tapping anyone doesn’t mean he’s not good. His control, guard passing and submission defence is all very good. Has everyone forgotten the bj second fight.

I agree with the guy who is copping the shit above.

Gsp would dominate Diaz on the ground. Top position ground and pound all night long.

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by Nick-J on Jan 21, 2012 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm totally un-opinionated on the matter

but you just brought up Koscheck losing to Sanchez after something like 5 months of mma training as a way to downplay Koscheck…your argument is far far weaker

Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...

by Honkleton7 on Jan 21, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick lost to Sanchez

And Koscheck beat Sanchez, also Hendricks knocked Fitch out, but compared to the 5 round mutilation that GSP put on that face, I would say it was alot worse what GSP did, not Hendricks.

by Punisher450 on Jan 22, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Hendricks managed fitch even better than gsp

by hexbreaker on Jan 21, 2012 7:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No no

Lets be honest, Alves battered KOS just as badly and Paulo Thiago put him away with 2 punches. Hughes stopped BJ first. Hendricks put Fitch out in 12 seconds. And your Shields argument is only valid if you actually think he beat kampmann lol not to mention ellenberger put a worse beating on shields in 50 seconds than GSP did in 25 minutes. GSP is well so well rounded and athletic that he out strikes grapplers and out grapples strikers. That excludes Serra & penn, whom he used his size, wrestling, and athleticism to bully. Diaz is the first guy who GSP will not have a significant advantage over either striking or on the mat, in fact most consider Diaz superior to GSP in both departments. Diaz is a terrible matchup for GSP, the first in years.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He's 5,5

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 21, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Lmao.

Very nice.

I was surprised at how fat he is. He looks like he weighs 220-230.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 21, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

he probably does

He should move to HW and fight pat barry.

by Portuguese Breakfast on Jan 21, 2012 4:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

he'd beat barry.

I hope to one day be as tired of losing as my family are of walking in on me jerking it to hockey fights. I need help. I penetrate myself with a signed Steve Nash puck and have overstretched my sphincter muscles. This is only one reason why I cry myself to sleep in a bath full of BBQ sauce while eating leftover takeaways. This is a plea while I’m of sound mind to help me raise money for corrective surgery to repair my mouth after years of abusing it working the gloryhole circuit. I’m finally ready to take the maniacs advice and begin the long and painful journey towards being able to keep my mouth shut.
Sig Bet Record:
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1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
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by Cruz Jackson on Jan 21, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree. Serra’s BJJ is top level. Penn’s as well.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Their legs are also shorter than GSPs arms

Good luck submittingn anyone from your back under those circumstances

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Matt Serra has he retired or something? Please excuse my ignorance. Just haven’t really heard boo from him since the Lytle fight.

by RazorBlades on Jan 21, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Thiago actually has a black belt in BJJ. And has one of the strongest TD defenses. Koscheck is again a strong wrestler. Diaz is going to get grinded into the mat. I can’t see him tapping or losing due to fatigue.

by RazorBlades on Jan 21, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re talking about JJ here incase you haven’t noticed, and the ability to attack and defend from your back. Thiago posses no skill off his back compared to Nick, I don’t care what belt he has. Nick is a calculated killer off his back, GSP will struggle to get anything going. He couldn’t even submit a BRIT LOL.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 21, 2012 6:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly

Thiago Alves has submitted…….. Who? But he did get triangled by spencer fisher lol comparing his skill off his back to Diaz is ridiculous.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

His passing of the guard is far below g sots

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by wooly shambler on Jan 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I dont think so. At all. Thats just my opinion but even so it still remains atop the WW division

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Different weight division

In the WW division, no man has been as elite at passing the guard

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by unambig on Jan 21, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Your comments are a little weird today

Diaz’s “MMA JJ” has been pretty elite and well regarded over the past few years.

I'm not a racist. I hate all people equally.

by unambig on Jan 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Against high level wrestlers? Or against guys who do not have spectacular wrestling bases? Because for as gritty as Cyborg is, I wouldnt label him elite level.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Diaz hasn't been tested against a wrestler since April 15, 2006

So that’s a hard question to answer.

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by unambig on Jan 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well not really. We have the answer. It is that Nick has found his biggest problems come against wrestlers. So until he proves that he can do better the answer will be his weakness is against wrestlers. Since he has shown nothing to prove otherwise all we know is what his career tells us.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Diaz got taken down by Penn

And in my opinion, getting taken down by Penn is more dangerous than getting taken down by let’s say, Kos or Ellenberger or Hendricks or whatever “elite level” wrassler there is at 170lbs

I hereby declare that Edson Barboza is the true owner of the Showtime Kick

by Starr788 on Jan 21, 2012 4:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree except for Ellenberger. I think that guy is the last person at 170 you want to be underneath. He has unreal power.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

You could sweep or submit Ellenberger, if you're Diaz.

Good luck doing that to Penn lol but yes, his power is unreal. Two totally different types of threats on the ground, both dangerous.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed Starr

Diaz recovered from Penn having his back,thats a dangerous spot to be in.Correct me if in wrong but i think Edgar did as well but that was late in the fight,this was early.

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Penn made the mistake of not turning his fight with Edgar into a grappling match

Too much pride and it cost him

I hereby declare that Edson Barboza is the true owner of the Showtime Kick

by Starr788 on Jan 21, 2012 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I wondered why that whole fight

Frankie must be hard to get ahold of and keep down, idk.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He is a black belt

And diaz tapped him 10 seconds after that fight hit the mat. I understand he may not have an elite wrestling base, but Diaz had incredible ease submitting a BJJ black belt literally as soon as he was taken down. Submitting a black belt is AT LEAST as impressive as submitting a wrestler in almost anyone’s opinion.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true

I just don’t think it’s the case with Diaz. Rani Yahya vs Chase Beebe comes to mind, I was extremely confused there.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

the big thing about gsp on the ground is he isn’t sitting still, he’s moving so he’s hard to get ahold of and submit, yes hughes did it, but since then he has put bj on his back, matt serra on his back and didn’t even come close to being submitted, diaz is a good fighter but i don’t think he has a shot in hell at beating GSP

by ibeffudled on Jan 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Diaz poses a completely different threat to GSP than Penn or Serra

You are being silly.

We won’t see Diaz on his back too often if he fights GSP…not in a 5 round fight…GSP isn’t dumb

I hereby declare that Edson Barboza is the true owner of the Showtime Kick

by Starr788 on Jan 21, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

jab, jab, duck under, change level, take down

attempt to pass guard, fail, get up, repeat.

listen, their is nothing terribly exotic about a GSP/Diaz fight.

"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow

by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 21, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you.

I don’t think there’s a single thing Diaz can do to stop whatever GSP decides is gonna happen.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

by Yan117 on Jan 21, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a lot!

First off, I think the crowd would cheer for Diaz…it would be something to see GSP react to not being favored and Diaz react to being cheered for against GSP

Second, I think Diaz can bait GSP into fighting his fight…

Let’s face it, if Diaz gets finished by anyone it will be a big surprise…and fighting Diaz for 5 rounds is a tall order, whether he lost to “wrasslers” 15 years ago or not

I hereby declare that Edson Barboza is the true owner of the Showtime Kick

by Starr788 on Jan 21, 2012 5:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

GSP has far too much Fight IQ to allow the fight to be fought under Nick’s pace

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

nothing in either of each of their past indicates that anything other than what i just wrote will happen

Nick can be taken down and no one is better at that at WW than GSP.
GSP treads very carefully against dangerous opponents and non may be more dangerous than Nick
Nick has not done well throughout his fight history against true wrestlers…..length of time since does not factor into the facts….sorry.
GSP has good stand up D. he keeps great distance and extends his reach better than anyone in the division save Nick, but Nick can’t fight himself so therefore he hasn’t experienced goo stand up defence in a long time. (examples: Cyborg, Daley, Noons and Penn the Fatter)

"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow

by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 21, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You conveniently forget that almost all of GSP's have gotten off their back...even Hardy

And the key to beating a wrestler isn’t necessarily to stop the takedown…stop that nonsense…

GSP is a badass, but he’s going to have a harder time with Diaz than any opponent he’s faced in the past, blee’dat!

I hereby declare that Edson Barboza is the true owner of the Showtime Kick

by Starr788 on Jan 21, 2012 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i haven't forgotten it at all

which is why i said he’ll take Nick down, attempt to pass, fail and then get up. Nick isn’t physically strong enough and GSP understands weight and balance to well to let Nick keep him down.

"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow

by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 21, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i also said

“GSP treads very carefully against dangerous opponents and non may be more dangerous than Nick”

"There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. ~James Morrow

by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 21, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

And Diaz beats him standing IMO

I’d be shocked if GSP out strikes Diaz for 5 rounds.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it has been his entire career so we will see if anything has changed

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP vs Diaz will look like Nate vs Rory don’t buy the hype

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by Jiguyg Fjhj on Jan 21, 2012 4:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I semi agree, just wont be as violent of a beatdown as Rory put on Nate

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

oh come on when does GSP suplex anyone jeez!

he will take Diaz down and boringly keep him there for 5 rounds

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He didnt say move by move the same. But it will be a one sided beat down is what I assumed he meant.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

it will be one sided i agree but not a beatdown

it will be a one sided humping

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

We all have our opinions on the fight. I dont remember the last time GSP laid on someone, or “humped” them. I remember GSP nearly ending Koschecks career. Shutting down all Shields offense.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

remember dan hardy getting jizzed on for 5 rounds?

I also remember the repetitive flailing for five rounds against shields

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Flailing?

I remember St. Pierre outstriking Hardy then taking him down with ease. Passing and landing strikes without any danger what so ever.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

somebody chime in for me please

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

he didnt use any gnp against Hardy

hardy never had one mark on him

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

except for the aftermath of the 25 minutes of pure sexual assault.

Hardy should’ve seen a shrink for post traumatic stress disorder.

by Portuguese Breakfast on Jan 21, 2012 4:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He didnt use ground and pound? His 174 strikes beg to differ? And his 26 guard passes over 25 minutes… ?

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess this guy must have watched it

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasnt happy that he didnt finish the subs but damn was it a thorough beatdown where the challenger did absolutely zero in 25 minutes of fighting to put the champ in any sort of danger

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Hardy looked ok to me after

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

? Anderson looked fine after the Sonnen fight? Bruising and cuts dont mean much in that context

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Lajun we get it you're in love with gsp. that's cool to each their own

no matter how gay it is. But come on, he did not hit hardy 174 times. he didn’t even throw 174 strikes. I guess he got credit for feints, air jabs, and lifting his feet off the ground. I guess those pitty pats he tapped hardy with while he was grinding on him count as strikes. 174 strikes…haha get off his dick.

by djkrazykill on Jan 22, 2012 1:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

how do you get an arm bar attempt and a kimora attempt and not advance your position? i’m no grappling expert but you still need movement to get excited enough to Jizz….

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by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 21, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

see alves and hardy fight

You only remember his jab sessions. Shields bloodied him up standing, wtf?

by Portuguese Breakfast on Jan 21, 2012 4:43 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

His jab session may have been one of the most impressive performances in terms of striking I have ever seen in MMA. He used the most simple of strikes to completely dictate the whole fight. And thoroughly beat him down.

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It's like using one single chess piece and checkmating the other with it.

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by Yan117 on Jan 21, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually I was thinking of that analogy as well. The worst part is we all know what Chess piece he will use… but yet nobody is able to do anything about it

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

All right mania ban this lajun guy I know you're not fruity like B.E. but he must never be allowed to post. gsp/shields the most impressive mma striking you have ever seen!!!???

I’m an atheist, but I will make a special trip to church tomorrow and pray that Jesus heals your brain. I pray that the heavenly father drives the nut huggery from your soul. Lajun parents. if you are reading this get your child some help. gsp bored HIMSELF to death with that horrible striking display that’s why he apologized after. Even his cult like, ass backwards, die hard, dick riding, Canadian fans were booing, but You thought that was mma’s best display of striking???

by djkrazykill on Jan 22, 2012 1:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yah we put him on blast earlier

but they deleted all our posts

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 22, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Shields punched up GSP

And won rounds on the judges cards, in a fight that was all stand up. The only other people who lost a round of striking to Jake fuckin Shields were contestants on Bully Beatdown.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me guess

Becuase Nick is Nates big bro, and Rory is Canadian like GSP??? Lol Nate is good, but he is NOT nick man….. Plus, rory is a natural weight class higher than Nate. But to be fair, that comparison is actually pretty decent. Nick Diaz is NOT hype though.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

so your one of those posters that insult my intelligence cause your boy sucks at wrestling? and stop misspelling it you ass clown you see those fucking red dots under it

like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
"He got knee'd right in the diverticulitis
by Balrog on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 PM PST"

by Mac Marley on Jan 21, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

why would anyone think that UFC wrestlers could possibly beat Nick Diaz?

Diego, Karo Parisyan, Joe Riggs, and Sean Sherk all out powered Diaz, took him down and beat him….

,,,,but it’s not like GSP has had success on the level of those guys at executing takedowns and controlling position to dominate fights.

by Clark Griswald on Jan 22, 2012 3:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont beleive it till i see it

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by stunt on Jan 21, 2012 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

The fight could happen this summer

But GSP will play it safe and not accept the fight.

Top 5 most boring fighters to watch p4p:
1. Jake "Mr. Snuggie" Shields
2. G "what's the Rush?" SP
3. Jon Fitch
4. Tyron "wanna cuddle?" Woodley
5. any wrestler w/ the same fight strategy as #1-4

by TheRassler on Jan 21, 2012 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I want both fighters at or near 100%. Why wouldn't you want that as a fan?

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by redfox54 on Jan 21, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe because GSP hasn't fought in a fight since the serra 2 fight.

that’s why.

Top 5 most boring fighters to watch p4p:
1. Jake "Mr. Snuggie" Shields
2. G "what's the Rush?" SP
3. Jon Fitch
4. Tyron "wanna cuddle?" Woodley
5. any wrestler w/ the same fight strategy as #1-4

by TheRassler on Jan 21, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

really where the fuck have you been up nick diaz’s asshole?

like water
and this was the way i felt watching the reem kill brock
"He got knee'd right in the diverticulitis
by Balrog on Dec 30, 2011 9:20 PM PST"

by Mac Marley on Jan 21, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

He's tried

but Danago was too far up so there was no room for TR. He’s content hanging on his nut like a lamprey.

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by hairybumcrack on Jan 21, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that playing it safe or placing high value on your career

If I were a dish washer, a great dish washer, and I hurt myself while washing dishes I would not return to work until I was able to wash dishes to my best capabilities…especially if I was a millionaire!

I hereby declare that Edson Barboza is the true owner of the Showtime Kick

by Starr788 on Jan 21, 2012 4:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

bravo!

Thanks for the analogy

by Portuguese Breakfast on Jan 21, 2012 5:02 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don't know about you

But I just use a dishwasher

I'm not a racist. I hate all people equally.

by unambig on Jan 21, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like he is gonna put a whopping on your boy

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by redfox54 on Jan 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

+209

wait, that’s gay… +1

you should totally twitter that on your facebook

by ~Peregrine on Jan 21, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like Georges is scared of every fighter nowadays

That explains why he fights scared.

Top 5 most boring fighters to watch p4p:
1. Jake "Mr. Snuggie" Shields
2. G "what's the Rush?" SP
3. Jon Fitch
4. Tyron "wanna cuddle?" Woodley
5. any wrestler w/ the same fight strategy as #1-4

by TheRassler on Jan 21, 2012 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

and wins, and dominates, and embarrasses his opponents.....

you basically discredit a group of top level welterweights when you spew this shit…..you do realise that don’t you?

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by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 21, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

in order to realize that

one must have a concept on what reality is. Rassler has no concept of anything.

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by hairybumcrack on Jan 21, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He out points his opponents, sexually assaults them and embarasses himself.

That’s why he always apologizes after his fights. He feels dirty and ashamed. inside. You Canadians misuse the word “dominate” too much. You know what’s REALLY, REALLY dominating? forcing the other guy to quit. You know what’s REALLY REALLY shutting down your opponent? Putting them to sleep! That shuts them down completely for real! Condit shut Hardy down. Gsp tried to get him pregnant.

by djkrazykill on Jan 22, 2012 1:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

you sound adorable when you USE CAPS

First, i’m from Jersey and second, i love Diaz as a fight fan. this isn’t nuthugging by any stretch of the imagination. if it makes you feel better sweetie, i strike the word dominate from the above post. so now GSP only wins and embarrasses his opponents,,,,m’kay?

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by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 22, 2012 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll say this Diaz is a thousand times the warrior that GSP is Diaz earns every penny he gets.

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 22, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

i often wonder about these types of statements.

Nick Diaz is a warrior. No doubt about it. What else do we know about Nick? I love that we don’t know anything else about him really. He could be a hilarious person. He could be in a really deep meaningful relationship w/ someone. Nick will not let us know and I respect him for that not only because it makes him intriguing but he doesn’t think we deserve to know and he’s right.
Most pros in any spotlight cave to the media or the constant pressure of the media so they are forced to give something up to the media and the public just to alleviate that pressure. Nick basically says Fuck You to that, turns that pressure into focus for his fight and opponent.My point is just because that’s all he shows us doesn’t mean that’s all he is.
Conversely, just because GSP is a media darling who represents this image of the poster boy “athlete” of MMA and is very forthcoming and supplicant when it comes to that. Just because he plays a more cautious game and strategy while in the cage does not make.him less a “Warrior”.
The Art of War has enough quotes to show how both these men are “Warriors” in the cage. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win”…..“Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat” for GSP……
For Nick. “Speed is the essence of war. Take advantage of the enemy’s unpreparedness; travel by unexpected routes and strike him where he has taken no precautions.”……..and for those who shit on Diaz’s striking i leave you w/ this one. “When torrential water tosses boulders, it is because of its momentum. When the strike of a hawk breaks the body of its prey, it is because of timing.”

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by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 22, 2012 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Zzzzzzz

For fucks sake make a fanpost

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 22, 2012 4:06 AM EST up reply actions  

RIF

i will not. just because i’m right doesn’t mean i want the rest of the site ti know.

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by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 22, 2012 4:09 AM EST up reply actions  

so epic that it wont happen lol

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by stunt on Jan 21, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

why should GSP rush into this?

See that play on words? But really, he will only ‘urt ’imself if he decides to fight before he’s 100% when he really only needs to be 70% to beat Diaz

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by hairybumcrack on Jan 21, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL Nice!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Jan 21, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP has a degree in Kinesiology...

I don’t understand why people are so amazed at his recovery. If not for fighting his fucking job would of been to repair knees..

by D-MoB on Jan 21, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

Didn't know that. Interesting though.

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by redfox54 on Jan 21, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are you fibbing?

I hereby declare that Edson Barboza is the true owner of the Showtime Kick

by Starr788 on Jan 21, 2012 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I went to prove you wrong, couldn't find the information on the UFC website..

got scared that I made up this information and I was about to look stupid..
THEN..

By 2001, St-Pierre was competing professionally. He’d remade himself as an expert in submission grappling. To pay for his training and kinesiology classes at a local college, he held three jobs: resurfacing floors, picking up garbage, and bouncing at a rowdy club called Fuzzy Brossard.

http://www.menshealth.com/celebrity-fitness/georges-st-pierre
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/28/new-5-oz-interview-with-georges-st-pierre-a-champion-prepares-to-fight-a-champion/
http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=52898

Ok, I might of been a bit off. I’m not sure if he ever GOT the degree.. but ya.

by D-MoB on Jan 21, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Ray Sefo is fighting Cro Cop, did someone say super fight?

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 21, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Angry GSP doesnt seem like the GSP anyone would want to fight

by KingLujan on Jan 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

He’ll decision you even harder!

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Jan 21, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Overreaction.

GSP releases pictures of him practicing his kicking motion=Dana White saying GSP will be fully healed and ready to fight in the summer.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

+1

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 21, 2012 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This should be a good fight although I think yall are writing off condit too soon

NBK is a dangerous opponent for anyone and if he does not try to stand and bang with Diaz he may have a shot at winning this fight, that been said I think GSP would wrasslefuck Diaz handily so long as he does not try to box with him

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by rooseveltdunn on Jan 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

thats why,as horrible as it sounds,i hope gsp is out a good while

so we can get some more exciting ww fights in.Thats a backhanded compliment by the way

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Jan 21, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol nice

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Unlikely it happens in early summer maybe late but then again its alwasy possible it wont happen at all because Diaz can lose White is just helping build the fight if it happens

Oh and its freaking hilarious reading DAnago(#1 troll) vs Kinglujan(#?Troll) go at it.

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Fuckin' epic troll showdown

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 21, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

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by JamPark on Jan 21, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t wait for this fight i don’t care when it happens I just want it to happen. It’s been a long time since diaz has fought someone like gsp and its been a long time since gsp has fought someone line diaz. I see this ending in the last round with diaz by submission. I’ll be rooting for diaz in the condit fight and for sure diaz in the gsp fight. And make no mistake diaz isn’t looking past condit at all.

by zesotheclown on Jan 21, 2012 4:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

andy will fight chael, gsp will fight nick….does Dana not give Bis or Condit a chance?

by Newfie3 on Jan 21, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

look at all this action here

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

he’s in half guard right?

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by F'n Clownshoes on Jan 21, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he's in full hump

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup and he checking the clock to see if he still has more time to hump hardy dry

by zesotheclown on Jan 21, 2012 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I want to know of anyone else who can pass into dominant positions 26 times in 25 minutes. Or even 16 times in 15 minutes. That is what you call outclassing someone on the mat

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

inconceivable!

Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!

by PHISH_NATION on Jan 21, 2012 6:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

“My name is Enrico Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!”

Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.

by MBOW on Jan 21, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Outclassing someone....

Are you saying GSP has elite BJJ because he outclassed Dan Hardy in the ground?

Wow.

I might agree with, if GSP did not fail multiple times to submit Hardy with blue belt level submissions.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 21, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

and he admitted it

all you people say is that GSP is one dimensional but what is Nick Diaz? One dimension all the way.

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by hairybumcrack on Jan 21, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

How is he one dimensional?? He has subed people, decisioned people, has a ko he stands and beats the shit out of people he has excellent ground game Jo way in Hell is he one dimensional. Gsp on the other hand may poses all these great skills his fans seem to think he has but he doesn’t use everything he either just stands with jj guys or humps stand up fighters. So sorry person but this is an argument you can’t win. No way is Nick diaz one dimensional

by zesotheclown on Jan 21, 2012 7:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Glad you chimed in

People state that GSP is one dimensional. All of this boring dry humping shit crap. Other than his last fight (and maybe the one against Hardy), he was boring. Diaz likes to stand and bang. He doesn’t like fighting off his back. Sure he has sub’d people and beat people up but he was on the beating end of some of those fights before he KO’d his opponent. Yes, that makes it a much more exciting fight with a surprise end to it. Harsh statement regarding Diaz as I do realize he is multi-faceted but he loves to stand and GSP loves to GNP.

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by hairybumcrack on Jan 21, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but diaz isn’t one dimensional that’s what in saying. Gsp may have a bunch of skills but when the Hell does he put them all together and finish a fight? Haven’t seen him do that in years

by zesotheclown on Jan 21, 2012 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's very impressive

But it’s kinda like owning Brock lesnar in a striking match, or out landing jake shields in a kickboxing match. Or submitting Melvin Guillard in a grappling match. You get the point……

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Passing into "dominant" position 26 times in 25 minutes means he failed in 26 attemps. Condits fist however went into dominant position ONCE in under 25 minutes....

And Hardy was snoring. THAT’S dominating, shutting down, out classing controlling and owning, your opponent. Hardy, could have gone 5 more rounds with gsp, he couldn’t go one more second with Condit.

by djkrazykill on Jan 22, 2012 1:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I wouldn't discount Conduit

He can beat anyone on his great days. Pretty lame that Dana is already looking past him here IMO

by TheChrish on Jan 21, 2012 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

Ray Sefo vs Cro Cop is official

Bobby Southworth

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ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Idk how to feel about that,

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by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 21, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

In MMA or kickboxing?

Special rules? I’m guessing MMA.

by grapplefan on Jan 22, 2012 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

If this is true, then GSP is pulling for Diaz because of the wrestling advantage and he thinks he can wrasslefuck him for 5rnds.

GSP is a coward,a pussy,mental midget and not a fighter at heart, just a good athlete

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by Big-dawg on Jan 21, 2012 6:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

did this thread just get shortened by about 30 or posts?

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 21, 2012 6:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah

And I’m gonna keep on shortening them since all weekend long every thread turns into an argument over who is a fag, who is racist, who sucks, who trolls, etc.

It’s getting old, real fast. So is the “I’ll reply with a funny pic I found on the web” comment.

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by Jesse Holland on Jan 21, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

oh ok..

I mustve been dragged into that somehow, all I can see was that I got wiped out..
Shit…and for once I was making a point somewhere too!

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 21, 2012 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

for once I was making a point somewhere too!

Sorry brother, collateral damage

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by Jesse Holland on Jan 21, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

its all good...i was just curious..

Keep slaying the trolls…

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by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 21, 2012 7:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

with the way things tend to play out in MMA..

All this looking ahead to Diaz/GSP pretty much guarantees a win for Condit against Diaz.

by cough on Jan 21, 2012 7:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i dont want the banhammer

Sorry for my vulgar dislay of immaturity

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 7:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

perhaps your sig should change as well too

Upcoming sig bet with OilCan - Diaz/Condit
Note to self - don't bet against Diaz but I just can't help doing it....again

by hairybumcrack on Jan 21, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I did it’s slightly modified

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 7:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

nick diaz would be an awesome maniac

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 7:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Bottom line is this, for the first time ever GSP does not have the advantage in striking or grappling

Serra is 5’6", Fitch was outclassed standing, Penn (when’s the last time he’s even attempted a sub from his back? UFC 63), Alves was outclassed on the mat, Hardy has no bars in terms of grappling, Koscheck (was gettin out struck by Matt Hughes, ‘nuff said), and shields striking is laughable. Diaz is the first guy who has the right combination to best GSP standing or on the ground. ALSO, let’s be real here, GSP curled up under Big John and tapped to strikes. Pathetic. He was willing to surrender his belt like that, that really shows the heart of a champion lol. Diaz is the most difficult guy to finish in the division, he amps it up as the fight goes on, he’s a true TO THE DEATH warrior. When the going gets tough, GSP gets going. He did in Serra #1, and in the shields fight he freaked the fuck out and started fighting like complete garbage. Diaz is the guy to beat GSP, but conversely GSP probably has the best chance of beating Diaz out of the whole division. But right now, I see Diaz pulling it off. He’s a bad matchup all around for Georges.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

I want Diaz to win as much as anyone

But I wouldn’t put money on him against GSP

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 21, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not?

It’s no blowout either way, but I really think Diaz takes it. Then again, I’m horribly biased lol but even if I wasn’t, I think I’d still lean towards Diaz

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone is getting ahead of themselves.

Diaz still has to get past Condit, which I don’t see happening. Condit is gonna kick his scrawny ass all over the place.

by GodDamnMike on Jan 22, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly

Danago makes alot of sense on this thread, I know you guys all give him a hard time but he’s spot on here. Lol just sayin.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 21, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

I would make a homosexual slur towards you but with the current climate at mania being what it is ....

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 22, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Regarding GSP vs Diaz: Who is the stronger and more physically fit man that night

GSP is the clear favourite for me. His ability to keep the fight where he’s wants it to be will get him the victory more times than anything. GSP will be extra slippery as usual and I feel that will come into play with Diaz throwing up sub attempts from guard. Ground and pound could also cause Diaz to tire, also GSP dominates from the fence and transitions/scrambles well from there.

I will not put any money down on this fight (whenever it happens) simply because I want both fighters to win. Diaz is crazy hood, and GSP is Canadian, both are near the tops of my favourite fighters. I really just want this fight to happen tomorrow and may the better man win.

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by aGenius on Jan 22, 2012 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

GSP is the favorite and rightfully so but I bet the odds will be close

especially with long layoff due to injury , I want Diaz to beat Conduit so bad so this fight becomes a reality

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 22, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

After seeing the primetime thing last night, it would be hard for me to ever root against Diaz.

He’s easily the most interesting character in mma. Carlos was the same contrived family man thing they do every episode, and too much of it was shown. That 5 minutes of insight into Nick was worth it though. I think he can and will be the welterweight champ and one of mma’s biggest stars. Anger isn’t a good thing for GSP to go into a fight with.

by theworldismine on Jan 22, 2012 12:54 AM EST reply actions  

i'm a big diaz fan as well

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 22, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

To bad for GSP cause Condit smashing diaz then coming for his ass . I’m saying it here Condit the next champ Ive said it for years now and I think GSP only wants diaz to win cause his scared of Condit ….. Oh yeah cause I know some of you are gonna talk shit and call me f-ING idiot and whatever suck a fat one d bags …………WAR CONDIT!!!!!

by 505mmacity on Jan 22, 2012 1:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

No,bro

Wtf

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 22, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

UFC 143

My response to Dana White’s prediction of Diaz vs St Pierre’s bout this summer……? I get it, it is what the fans want and GSP wants……. but just where does Carlos
Condit fit in here! There is a saying “never under estimate ur enemy”…..we will see who comes out on top, a week from today….. may the best man win, and that will be Carlos!!!

by nmlos84 on Jan 28, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

UFC 143

I like ur comment 505 mmacity! This one is Carlos’s!

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