Dana White still puzzled by Melvin Guillard, 'guarantees' Anderson Silva will fight Chael Sonnen (Video)
by Thomas Myers on Jan 21, 2012 10:00 AM EST
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Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) President Dana White shared his post-fight thoughts after the UFC on FX: "Guillard vs. Miller" event from the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tenn., on Jan. 20, 2012.
The big storyline coming out of the show -- the first-ever in the FX network -- was the performance of Melvin Guillard, who once again showed flashes of brilliance, but once again wound up on the wrong end of a submission courtesy of Jim Miller.
That's now 10 losses in his professional mixed martial arts (MMA) career, nine of which have come by way of tapout. Certainly a gaping hole that a 10-year veteran should have plugged by now, but one that he mysteriously hasn't.
White weighed in:
"I don't know what it is with Melvin -- I've been saying this since the second season of The Ultimate Fighter. Even yesterday at the weigh ins, joking around: I'm waiting for this kid to take things serious. I don't know. I don't know what to say."
He goes on to recap several fights in the video above, including the big wins of Josh Neer and Pat Barry, but it's his comments on Anderson Silva that are worth highlighting here.
That's because just yesterday during the UFC on Fox 2 conference call, Chael Sonnen boldly predicted that if he defeated Michael Bisping next Saturday (Jan. 28, 2012) on network television to earn the next middleweight number one contender position, "The Spider" would find another way to avoid the rematch.
Sonnen even went as far to say that the Brazilian champion "will never fight again."
White disagrees:
"I 100 percent, right here, right now, guarantee that if Chael Sonnen wins that fight [against Michael Bisping] Anderson Silva will fight Chael Sonnen this summer. And it will probably [take place in Brazil]."
For more on UFC on FX 1: "Guillard vs. Miller" be sure to check out our complete coverage of the event, as well as the lightweight shoowdown, right here, here and here.
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You don't have to guarantee that...
Unless there are people that really believe Anderson is a duck
I hereby declare that Edson Barboza is the true owner of the Showtime Kick
by Starr788 on Jan 21, 2012 10:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
time will tell
but 100% guarantees from Dana seem to always go the opposite way of his guarantee.
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Have faith it might happen. Better hope nothing weird happens and sonnen loses to bisping
by zesotheclown on Jan 21, 2012 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well played
Great movie
Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!
by PHISH_NATION on Jan 21, 2012 11:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought that movie sucked
Terrible stoner movie to watch because there’s actually several buzzkilling scenes.
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all of a sudden???
kinda slow on the pattern recognition there, eh?
Dude, Anderson has always been a duck. He has maneuvered every way he could to get out of fights he didn’t want. From Soares pre-emptive statements to the press saying “So-and-so doesn’t deserve a title shot.” to his calling out irrelevant fighters like Mir, Bisping, & GSP instead of challengers to his belt, to his suddenly acquiring injuries whenever Dana promises someone he doesn’t want to fight a “100% Guarantee” (injuries which mysteriously disappear as soon as that fighter is booked elsewhere).
Anderson has been talking about how he really wants to fight Bisping (of course because Bisping is the only guy near contention who isn’t an elite grappler.) But even after Chael pounds Bisping into the dust, Anderson will either fake another injury, call out someone he knows they’d never let him fight, or just flat out retire. Sonnen’s right, Silva won’t fight him. Even if Dana threatens to strip him of the title, (which he won’t cause Dana almost always gives him his way.) there’s a good chance he’ll just retire rather than fight Sonnen and take another 5 rounds of pounding while watching his legacy go up in smoke.
Time to face facts, folks. Anderson is the only champion in UFC history who has tried to dictate who he will and won’t fight. That’s a big part of the reason he’s the longest defending champ. Don’t get me wrong, he’s got AMAZING skills. But he’s also spent his whole career ducking the best guys his own size. He walks around at 220-230 lbs and is bigger than half the 205ers. He should have been fighting guys like Shogun, Rashad, Machida, and Rampage all along. But instead he’s used his freakish ability to cut weight to drop down and fight the weakest division in the sport and even there, he’s used every excuse and diversionary tactic imaginable to TRY to avoid anyone who might have the skills to challenge him. He tried repeatedly to duck Hendo, claimed Vitor didn’t deserve a shot, has said repeatedly that he won’t fight Sonnen again, and tried to dictate other fighter’s matchups to force them to eliminate each other, lobbying Dana to make Hendo & Marquardt fight each other and then to make Sonnen and Munoz fight each other.
Silva is a ducking diva douchebag and spirit-wise he’s the worst excuse for a champion the UFC has ever had. Evan Tanner may not have had anything like Anderson’s skills, but he had 10 times his heart and championship spirit. So did Franklin.
"Who's da MASTA?!!!"
Oh stop...
Anderson has faced everyone put in front of him, and won.
Okami, Belfort, Sonnen, Maia.. and before that he moved up a weight class to fight Griffin and James Irvin.
Lutter, Marquardt, Henderson and Franklin twice.
Don’t pretend that he’s been fighting cans or hand picked opponents.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
It has been isolated instances when he goes back on what he says. And people grasp onto those few times and ignore the several times he sticks to what he says.
isolated? really?
Maybe if he didn’t give absolutes with everything, like most normal people, he wouldn’t get called on his bullshit.
But when there are multiple cases of him going back on “100% guarantees”, then he needs to take heat and be remineded of his dumbassishness (like that word? I just made it up for Dana).
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
Things change in this environment. Maybe he shouldnt use the terminology of “guarantee” or whatever else he says. But more often then not Dana is spot on when it comes to doing what he says he will do
Hyperbole, I hate it
Dana is full of it because he is a promoter. It is inherent in the position. It is why he is good at what he does, but will be bad for the UFC in the years to come (which is a whole other argument).
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
Dana does what he is supposed to do
for better or worse. I don’t like the people who believe what he says as if its gospel.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I just trust him as you would trust a promoter. When he says the guy is next in line I believe it unless I come to an understanding that business is saying go another direction.
I don't ever trust promoters
Again, they are inherently salesmen that want your money, but with a product that no one ever really needs.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
Again debatable.
Lorenzo has kept him in check recently, so I mostly agree.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
I didn't care about his broken promises because he started putting all these free fights on Facebook
But recently the prelims have been on some obscure TV channel, which hasn’t made me a very happy panda.
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Dana
Stop waiting for guillard to get serious. He is serious. He just has absolutely no submission defense. No ones perfect lol
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by Kalejohncox on Jan 21, 2012 10:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
It's not the sub defense that's the major problem
It was that ridiculous knee he threw over and over.
"..That man has to be eliminated." - Fedor Emelianenko
oh
and his sub defense.
So he has no brains and no sub defense.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
ill go with that assessment
sounds about right to me
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by Kalejohncox on Jan 21, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
He actually has good grappling skills. He just seems to make these small mistakes, like allowing Jim to slip the arm under the chin. I believe his grappling is good, Jim Millers is just better.
His wrestling is good.
Grappling is not the same as wrestling.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
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not necessarily.
Maia is a world champion grappler, yet is very wrestling deficient. Explain.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
His wrestling is deficient? I disagree, he doesnt have the typical wrestling approach you may be used too but his defensive wrestling is absolutely stellar.
I may be used to?
Now you are splitting hairs which is quite childish.
Not up for an argument today. Peace.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
I dont understand? Just because a guy doesnt shoot doubles and singles doesnt mean his wrestling is deficient?
To an extent it does, if you throw in defending singles and doubles.
The takedown is the yin for freestyle and Greco-Roman wrestling. Defending the TD is the yang. Everything else revolves around those.
Maia has decent trips and throws. He has horrible single and double leg TD’s and average TD defense because he is so comfortable off his back from his jits background. That makes him deficient at wrestling, IMO.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
that’s a small mistake? i suppose Jim getting his back was a small mistake also?
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
Of course it was. The smallest mistake, letting go of wrist control or hipping out the wrong direction can lead to something as disastrous as getting your back taken and choked out.
Why does he make the same mistakes over and over again?
Because he is not a very good grapppler.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
Maybe so, I think it has more to do with Melvin losing to better grapplers then being a bad grappler.
Some of those "better grapplers" are no longer in the UFC, yet Melvin is.
why is that?
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
Melvin’s overall UFC record is 10-6 in the UFC. I wouldn’t call that heavily succesful. Top prize goes to the person who correctly guesses how he lost those 6 bouts?
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
hahaha
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
DQ?
No wait… unanimous decision?
Ahh shit, I give up!
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
Sounds successful to me. He won ten fights inside the UFC. That is more then alot of UFC vets can say. Sonnen is 5-3 and will very likely be the next UFC title challenger at 185. Nick Diaz is 7-3 and will be the next title challenger at 170.
your arguement is boring me now, you are fighting something which has stonewall evidence behind it.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
You said 10-6 wasnt heavily successful. Yet two title challengers have the same winning %.. obviously it is successful then.
i like this guy
welcome to mania, friend
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Opponents matter
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Nick Diaz is 7-4
And he lost three in a row as well before getting cut. Just goes to show you that cutting guys for losing is a really terrible move. Just look at Josh Neer. The UFC cut him and he’s back and better than ever.
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He's in the UFC because he wins fights and is exciting
Cutting Melvin would be a poor decision. He’d have to lose four in a row before I’d even consider cutting him. He’s a top 10-15 lightweight fighter with serious power.
And before cutting him I’d even suggest he make a change in a weight division to see if he could shake things up.
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i know i agree with everything you just said, i wouldn’t want to see him cut. I enjoy watching him fight alot it just frustrates me, he has so much potential i think. King Lujan was arguing that Melvin is still learning his jits even though he has had 40+ fights and then the debate just went off on so many directions.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
hey man
he’s new, and he’s doing a really great job, i’ve enjoyed this thread because of the both of your conversation. i like you as well
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I don't think so
Melvin consistently makes decisions that are likely to lose fights. So, there’s a compounding problem here. Not only is he deficient in grappling, he makes decisions that further weakens his position despite knowing he’s not skilled enough to get out again.
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i thought he looked really with it this fight
unlike his last fight. he just came up short against a top 5 fighter in the world. that’s saying a lot about jim, but it also shows how much respect melvin deserves for getting to this point
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I think miller will make anyone look bad
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by wyldeman99 on Jan 21, 2012 1:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I agree.......
I have all but given up on Melvin after the lost to Miller. I mean at some point you have to work on your weakness. Move to Brazil, move in with Demain Maia or something, but for fuck sake work on the Sub defense or grappling or whatever it is that stops the rear naked choke loses. And someone mentioned this ealier last week, the Blackzillians are on a hell of a losing streak. Terrible decision on leaving Jackson’s camp.
by Albino Garcia on Jan 22, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
No, I think Dana is right
Guillard doesn’t take things seriously. He still has that crazy relaxed, carefree, come-what-may style of fighting. If he could slow down his movement and fight more defensively, he could still be dangerous with his speed.
The problem is he fights like a dancer, and throwing a flying knee against Miller isn’t the wisest idea unless you’re sure you can get off your back again.
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hey
it was working as a defense for quite awhile there. he needed to do anything he could to win the fight before being taken down. i don’t blame him at all. if nate were forced to go up against miller he’d lose, diaz is getting the easy road, and melvin did not. same goes for nick diaz, if he was forced to go angainst fitch he wouldn’t be where he is right now
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people act like they dont know who jim miller is.
He submitted a great bjj practitioner in oliviera so just because mg got submitted by Jim miller doesn’t mean he is just terrible a jj he is still working at it.
by mguillardfan701 on Jan 21, 2012 10:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
still working on it after what 40+ fights?
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
hahaha
+1
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by Kalejohncox on Jan 21, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
BJJ isnt something that comes natural to anyone. With his wrestling and explosive boxing it is very possible he just never took the time to truly develop his jiu jitsu
then what does that say about him as a fighter? he has the time to continually develop something which he is comfortable in doing which is his stand up but not something which actually needs improving?
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
derp
Keep plucking that chicken. Guillard continues to be a joke of an MMA fighter.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
A joke of a MMA fighter? LMAO probably one of the most experienced guys in the division and easily one of the best strikers. Doesnt sound like a joke.
^^ what you just said is a joke.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Is he not one of the most experienced LW’s in the UFC?
Does he not have one of the best striking arsenals in the LW division?
No jokes here except for your comments
No, No.
Does he not consistently get choked out by anyone with arms? Does he only do well against lesser opponents?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Funny, tell me at LW in the UFC who has more fights and more wins then Melvin over a career span?
And tell me again, who has better striking? And dont just name one, I need multiple since I said is ONE of the best.
ssshhhhh
I just got an official “click this box” warning.. so I’m gun shy right now.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
see all your talking about is his striking how he is the best striker, we all know that he is one of the best strikers nobody is denying that at all. Your arguement is completely stupid we know he is experienced and a good striker.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
The guy said he was a joke of a fighter. How can you call someone with the experience and skills that Melvin has a joke of a fighter. That was the whole argument
He IS a joke of a fighter
If he can’t knock a guy out, he gets subbed. He is a one trick pony, and whether you noticed it or not, there kind of is a running joke about his lack of JJ defense – especially when it comes to chokes.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
He's the Rear-Naked Trigg of the LW Division.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
He said joke of an mma fighter.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
Well yeah
even if I didn’t specify MMA I think that would be understood, since he’s supposed to be an MMA fighter.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
How can a MMA fighter with over 40 pro fights who has beat notable names like Silver, Davis, Stephens, Torres, Tibau and Dunham be a joke of an MMA fighter?
Myth hates him
not worth arguing any longer.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
As I said, gatekeeper at best.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
He isn't a joke
He’s just not a very well-rounded MMA fighter
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Better strikers at LW than Melvin Guillard
Frankie Edgar.
Anthony Pettis.
Edson Barboza.
Sam Stout.
Nate Diaz (boxing-wise).
Donald Cerrone.
Takanori Gomi (arguably).
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
Okay, now how many LWs are there in the UFC? Alot more then that. Melvin in pure striking is just as good as anyone on that list. In my opinion much better then Stout and Gomi
A lot.
But you asked to name more than one guy, so I did.
Now Gomi I can probably give you, because he’s clearly declined over the years, but he still has insane power. Stout, however, has KO power, a solid chin and good movement. He’s also technically sound. Melvin has shown sloppiness with his punches on more occassions, just bullrushing guys when he has them hurt and paying for it.
He said he was going to try and be more careful following the Lauzon loss, but he clearly hasn’t learned the difference between being careful and being tentative. If he had, he could’ve won last night.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
(¯`i´¯)´·¸.)‹^›
i will say this to you and this is all i will say. He may be an experienced fighter, granted. But has he learnt from his experiences?
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
Who is to say he hasnt? Because he was subbed by two very decorated grapplers? That tells me that he has a ways to go before he can hang with elite grapplers on the mat not that he sucks at grappling.
He doesn't suck at grappling but he's clearly inferior
To accept that deficiency and not attempt to correct it after so many years speaks to an unwillingness to address it. Seems to me he’d be better suited going to Gracie Jujitsu than the Blackzilians.
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He is a fighter, but until he improves his weakest area which is so weak that he has lost via that way in 9 of his 10 defeats he is just a fighter, not a mixed martial artist in my opinion.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
He is most definitely a mixed martial artist. Just because his grappling isnt as good as Jim Millers doesnt make him “just” a fighter.
hahahah
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
His grappling isn't as good as Rich Clementi's
and he just lost in the Score Figthing Series…
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
He didnt just lose to Rich Clementi. Drew Fickett was just on a four fight losing streak, does that mean Josh Koscheck’s grappling is also bad?
Yes, now fuck off
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Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8
by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
At the time yes, it was.
Melvin hasn’t gotten better at grappling since the loss to Carlo Prater, yet he is given a pass because he has one punch KO power.
I don’t blame him, I blame Dana for force feeding us this guy against guys he should squash (other than Dunham) purely on his athleticism and tehn losing to every good jits guy he fights.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
You cant bring up Clementi for Melvin since it was so long ago. The fact he fought Torres and Tibau show that he can beat Jiu Jitsu guys. His loss to Miller shows he cant hang with the top Jiu Jitsu guys. Neither can Sonnen and he is a title challenger.
Similar thing, Sonnen was given Stann to crush on his return
They would have made the fight with Silva right then if they could.
Silva said Sonnen didn't deserve it
So they gave Sonnen the #6 guy in the division, followeed by the #3, who got hurt and got replaced by the #8 guy in the division.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
If the UFC could make it the fight would have happened
I don’t think a lot of fans bought into Chael’s number 1 contender fight against Stann. To me it’s like Melvin v somebody with terrible striking defence and no BJJ for a title shot.
If the argument is that Melvin is a top fighter and deserving to be in the “mix” because a fighter with similar glaring weaknesses Sonnen is, then I think that if Sonnen had to fight people like Weidman, Palhares, Maia that he would lose like Melvin is doing when stepping up.
One division is glaringly weak, the other is not.
There is your difference.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
Truth
One divisions fighters are for the most part amazingly well rounded and well matched against eachother. The other division it’s easy to make stylistic mismatches even in the top 5/10.
LW is less … predictable.
Sonnen managed to prove himself against Okami and Nate
But Sonnen does need to fight top BJJ guys at the top of the division. Same as Melvin needed to fight top guys.
Miller wasn’t the first person to sub guillard though
by zesotheclown on Jan 21, 2012 10:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
and won’t be the last. 9/10 of his losses are by way of submission but ‘he is still working on it’
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
Yea man give him another 5 years and he’ll learn how to stop people from getting his back hahaha. Oh please just cut him or send him to the waaaaayyyy back of the line
by zesotheclown on Jan 21, 2012 10:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
problem is now he will probably get a fight which he can easily win standing up then he will probably get a little streak on the go, until somebody with jits comes along and spoils his cocaine party.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
I’m thinking the same thing but hopefully he loses his next fight by a “fluke” how melvin likes to call his loses, so they can just cut him.
by zesotheclown on Jan 21, 2012 10:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't like him saying that he's waiting for Melvin to take it seriously
He fuckin is … and he’s losing. His walkout was funny as fuck though, right out of zoolander
he is lightweight version of Pat Barry but at least Pat has obviously improved
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
Great commentating by Florina in that fight last night
“Morecraft only has a crank, and Barry is not in serious trouble. They are too close to the cage for him to adjust” Barry shifts and gets out.
“Barry needs to step over with his legs to release the pressure and get out of hte armbar”. Then Barry steps over and gets out.
It was a great night for Kenny in terms of educating new fans. Too bad Anik doesn’t know what “High level” really means.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
kenny is good in a analytical sense but he just doesn't seem to have the voice or personality to truly carry a broadcast
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by letter19 on Jan 21, 2012 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
he hardly had someone to bounce off of, in Jon Anik did he lol. I think with Goldie or Rogan, Florian could be good.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
Anik was pretty weak
I hope that’s not their “ultimate decision”
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hahaha
zoolander, awesome!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Guillard has the physical tools to be a great mixed martial artist he just doesn’t have the spirit,mentality and drive to go along with it
"How much more success can I obtain? If the sky is the limit then I'm living amongst the clouds"-letter19
by letter19 on Jan 21, 2012 10:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions
meh
another example of wasted talent. It just shocks me that people hold him in high regard when his deficiencies are glaringly apparent.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
The people that hold him in high regard probably admire his ability to end the fight with a single strike like he’s done so many times and there hoping he can put the rest of his game together
"How much more success can I obtain? If the sky is the limit then I'm living amongst the clouds"-letter19
by letter19 on Jan 21, 2012 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I be one of those people
I’ve been waiting for years
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
LMAO
by Rampagelangford on Jan 21, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I told my wife last night its amazing for melvin to be so explosive in one regard and yet be extremely weak in another..
"How much more success can I obtain? If the sky is the limit then I'm living amongst the clouds"-letter19
by letter19 on Jan 21, 2012 11:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He literally has Chael Sonnen syndrome
Sonnen is a fantastic wrestler but so poor at defending submissions
Same goes with Melvin, extremely powerful striker but so bad on the ground
remember when Melvin used judo?? me too
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
LMAO
by Rampagelangford on Jan 21, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Pat Barry also, there is definately at least one in every division. But at least Pat is showing signs of improvement.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
true, true
but lets be honest Morecraft isnt the best, the way he managed to mount him so easily was laughable
What did you think id look like...
be honest aha - Me
I pictured you as a mid size fair skinned englishman
Not this furry majestic stack of pancakes - Scottidog
LMAO
by Rampagelangford on Jan 21, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
getting out of the armbar was unexpected to me.
I figured he would tap as soon as Morecraft rolled over.
Soccer...sort of like gay hockey on a giant lawn - Scottidog 1/12/12
i was definately expecting a tap at that moment, it’s all well and good being able to escape subs but the fact he was getting put in them with relative ease it looked like to me. I was biting my nails when he was on the ground.
"A man, as a general rule, owes very little to what he is born with. A man is what he makes of himself."
Strange things abound on MM today...
comments closed, warnings for things that are pretty common… I’m gonna go do something productive until things settle down.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
+ 100
209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!
by wooly shambler on Jan 21, 2012 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why are you guys shutting down every thread about Guillard?
Not to mention why did you delete my gif of the choke in the Guillard thread? I mean all that racism stuff was out of hand, not a gif that I posted
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin VS John Loceires
January 27th, 2012
Curitiba, Brazil at Pereira Arena
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 21, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions
Apparently you can't say anything bad about Melvin
Especially cause he looks like sisqos gay brother , and sucks .
Oh and muck felvin
209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!
by wooly shambler on Jan 21, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin VS John Loceires
January 27th, 2012
Curitiba, Brazil at Pereira Arena
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 21, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
That's just high level stuff by Miller. I won't get on Melvin too much for that. Jim submits anybody from that advantageous position.
"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)
No doubt, I just posted it cuz Holland deleted it yesterday.
Miller taps everybody but Aoki, G-sot & Bocek
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin VS John Loceires
January 27th, 2012
Curitiba, Brazil at Pereira Arena
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 21, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
The Miller - Bocek fight was one of the best fights that nobody talks about. I loved it.
And I think Melvin’s camp, the UFC or somebody else is complaining to JH and company about the comments and how “Melvin sucks.”
That’s why threads are being closed and people are being warned.
Just be really polite when posting about him. :)
"To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 3)
No problem guys I'll play by the rules!
Thanks OJ
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin VS John Loceires
January 27th, 2012
Curitiba, Brazil at Pereira Arena
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 21, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Weird.
I haven’t had to second guess my comments since I was on BE… this feels awkward here. :(
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
and Bendo
Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses. --The Knockout Mechanism.
I find Melvin’s loss kind of sad, you could see in his face that he was trying to be patient and trying to do the right things but as soon as he’s on the ground he’s outclassed.. I don’t know why all of you supposed mma fans want to see the guy lose so badly, I see a lot of potential in him and as a true fan of seeing people compete at the highest level I would like to see his ground game develop. Melvin with a ground game would make the 155 division even more exciting than it already is.
1) It isn’t all of a sudden. Many of us have disliked Melvin for quite a while.
2) How is five flying knees in under 2 minutes being patient?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I don’t know what you’re first point is referring to… Regarding your 2nd point the patience was seen in him backing off after he had Miller hurt and realizing he didn’t want to expose himself to be taken down, but I agree the flying knees weren’t a good strategy in order to avoid the TD…
I get that you don’t like the guy, that’s fine… But I have no idea why as an mma fan you wouldn’t want to see him develop to his highest potential when you know the only thing holding him back is training the right way… Even DW is disappointed because he can see the potential in Melvin.. Him having smoked crack post-katrina in no way affects my day to day life, I’m happy to see a man rebound from that… But strictly speaking in terms of sports, why wouldn’t you want to see this guy develop a ground game? There’s no question he would be an absolute beast and I for one want to see that level of competition; someone with that level of athletic ability only comes around so often..
by BlaiseBlaise on Jan 21, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
It isn’t that I don’t want to see him develop – it’s that he HASN’T developed, REFUSES to develop – and yet I, as an MMA fan, am expected to continue cheering for someone who has no desire to add anything to his arsenal other than swinging his fists?
How many times must a guy get choked out before we can say “ok, he still hasn’t done shit with his ground game”? How long are people like you going to talk about “potential” and “developing a ground game” before you realize how unrealistic it is?
How many gift paychecks will Melvin get before the UFC decides that the kid might have to actually fight his way into a main event, and not get one after coming off an embarrassing loss to an undercard fighter (Lauzon)?
And on top of that, his personality annoys the hell out of me.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
"Remember all that stuff I said about Canada?"
Well yeah, GSP is injured and we have 1/30th the population. What do you expect, Dana?
I'm not a racist. I hate all people equally.
Maybe we'll see Melvin backstage on Dana's next vlog
crying his eyes out because of another blown opportunity. He moves camps so that he can get to the next level……problem isn’t the coaching, Melvin.
I give Dana credit...
He is giving Melvin every chance possible to redeem himself against the sub loses. But every chance Melvin recieives he is blowing it. Miller very well known for his Ju-Jitsu, Lauzon,etc. The day Melvin submits someone I think he will show development. If I were a fighter in the LW I would get in line to fight Melvin, just to get a chance to choke him out.
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