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Chael Sonnen thinks Anderson Silva is done and may never fight again

Photo of Anderson Silva by Jed Jacobsohn via Getty Images.

Remember all that talk from Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) President Dana White about Chael Sonnen rematching Anderson Silva for the middleweight title within the confines of a sold-out soccer stadium in Brazil?

Ain't happening.

Not that the promotion isn't sincere in its efforts to deliver said rematch to a nation of passionate mixed martial arts (MMA) fans, but Silva, currently rehabbing multiple injuries, is probably done as a combat sports fighter and will soon be hanging up the gloves for good.

That's according to Sonnen, who told media members at Friday's UFC on FOX 2 media conference call that Silva rejected a proposed rematch "four out of four times" and may in fact, never fight again.

Check it out:

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"I can guarantee you Anderson Silva and I will never cross paths again. He's not getting into the ring with me, ever. I called him out publicly. You call out a Brazilian publicly; you're going to be fighting that Brazilian. That's in their culture. I don't think he's ever going to fight again. That's my personal opinion. What I know for a fact is that he turned me down four out of four times. He personally said no to Lorenzo Fertitta's face. I think that (the UFC) is sincere. I think that they mean it. But I can tell you that behind the scenes, they've tried to put Anderson and me together four times and four times he said no. I become the number one contender and can get past Bisping, I'm gonna sit down with Dana and we're going to have a talk about (Georges St. Pierre) or Jon Jones. I'm not under any illusion that it's going to be Anderson Silva."

Former UFC middleweight number one contender, Dan Henderson, expects Silva's mysterious injuries to heal up fairly quickly if Michael Bisping is able to defeat Sonnen on Jan. 28 at the United Center in Chicago, Illinois.

If he doesn't, will "The Spider" ever return?

Sonnen isn't waiting around and has called out Jones and St. Pierre for the second time. Anyone interested in either of those two match-ups? Or is this just a bunch of hot air designed to pressure Silva into a speedy return?

For more from today's UFC on FOX 2 media conference call click here.

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Misleading title.

Chael clearly says he and anderson will never fight again.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 20, 2012 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

Failure to read article
I don’t think he’s ever going to fight again.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Jan 20, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, you are right, my apologies.

Ron Paul 2012. Roll Tide Roll. Nick Diaz UFC Champ 2012.

Hank_Mardukas just now found the gif of Andy dropping Chael with an elbow...bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

by EdSoares'Contribution on Jan 20, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

How the fuck is that misleading?

It says Chael Sonnen: AS is done and will never fight again.

Within said quote: it says “it is my opinion he will never fight again”

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 20, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

lol to be fair

up until the 3rd paragraph it does start to sound as if its about to be a reputable source besides sonnen

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta do what you gotta do to be….. wait for it…….. FIRST!!!

by AzCombat on Jan 20, 2012 6:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

AGAIN, HOW DOES SOMEONE REHABBING A HURT SHOULDER INJURE THEIR BACK??? how do they train wandy for cung le???

anderson only gets hurt when he has to rematch chael or hendo. in fact?? has he ever had an injury that didn’t in some way allow him to duck rematches with those two?? i don’t think so come to think of it. very fukkin interesting.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

and if Silva loses to Sonnen. Everyone will say Sonnen beat a past his prime Silva

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He finished both guys.

I don’t see your point.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

We don't get it because we aren't consumed on degrading silvas greatness

With goals for him and hoops to jump through while also pretending he’s scared to fight a guy who cheated just to compete with him and another guy who couldn’t even beat him while in his prime .
Silva doesn’t have to move up and he doesn’t have to fight injured to keep your little sonnens and Henderson happy and satisfied with their trash talk . He’s the best and he’s proved it . If you want to hate on him please do it in a way that makes sense . Then well get it

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Silva wants the big money:

GSP-sized paydays.

Whats wrong with that?

Isnt he the best?

He is tired of down playing his skills to make fights look competitve.

Was Okami competitive? Was Belfort competitive? How about Cote?

Only fools think Sonnen was a competitve fight.

It was a farce right up to the end. Silva just cant get himself to do it again.

His conscience is bored to death.

by bjpurity on Jan 21, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

i'd rather go under the knife

than get H-bombed! fuck that!

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 20, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Bro he already beat them lol

He fought them &won, I your accusation is kinda funny. Hendo held him down for the better part of a round, big whoop. He also came out and got creamed in the second. Silva fought sonnen with an injury the first time and still won, seeing as how it hindered him in that fight he is simply making sure not to give sonnen any advantages like that in a rematch. With all that is on the line, why wouldn’t he want to be 100%??? Vitor Belfort was thought by many to be the guy to KO silva, silva still fought him and won too.

by Mr.Italiano on Jan 20, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

And can I see you write a comment that doesn't make you look like an idiot?

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Not butt hurt, you just like making stuff up and it's funny.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha you mad?

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I was mad too after seeing that Charlie Brenneman fight.

Shit was frustrating.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Silva fought like crap for you wwe clowns

Did you cheer for Sonnen?

Wasnt it the beating you wanted to see?

Headlines: Silva finally challenged.

Silva play acted for you and you dont even appreciate the jesture.

by bjpurity on Jan 21, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah that is true, but to here the andy nuthuggers tell it, there is no fukkin way silva broke his rib in that fight. it had to have happened earlier.

which is pure bullshit.
if it was true, it would make his okami fight very odd indeed. why accept a fight hurt if the last time you did you got dominated??? doesn’t seem like rational behavior for silva to fight hurt again right?
the only reason why he claimed that hurt shoulder story was to get out of the hendo fight on fox. he had to say he was hurt before the fight because everyone knew he wasn’t training right after.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha he's the greatest fighter of all times.

Keep hating cry baby.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

not hating, just asking some legit questions. questions andy nuthuggers can't stand.

you can try to answer them, u might even see the light once you realize what anderson is doing.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll fight sooner or later.

He has to unless he wants to retire suddenly.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

if the options are a risky fight that could tarnish his legacy or retire, he might do that.

my guess is that he is hoping chael loses. i don’t think he is scared to fight chael or hendo because he is worried he can’t beat them, he already has, but they do have the best chance of beating him and that is an important distinction.

his legacy is at stake. he is the goat right now, but a loss would greatly diminish that.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

in a perfect world

Hendo fights Jones and beats him. Then challenges Silva to a rematch at 205 for the title

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be perfect.

I hate Jones and love Hendo.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

A loss wouldn't tarnish his lagacy imo because he's already the greatest of all times.

It would mark the end of him being the number one guy on the list. If he was to keep losing then I could see it giving his legacy a stain.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

well, silva's reality could have been fighting hendo on fox then chael right now.

those would both be two tough fighs for him. now he waits it out. hendo is already locked in at 205 and chael has to fight again and again with the chance he loses always there. it makes sense for silva to wait.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, but I think hendo needs to stay at 205, his cardio is crappy at 185.

Also, his win streak has come at 205. Hendo isn’t going to fight Silva.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

He shouldn't have to.

He already finished him, and Hendo is on a roll at 205, not 185.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm just saying, the fight was offered, silva said no, then ed soares held a press conference a few days later and said anderson had a hurt shoulder.

that’s what happened. whether or not you think he should have fought hendo is irrelevant. the truth of the matter is that after hendo ktfo of bisbing he was supossed to get a shot and anderson said he should have to fight marquart first, then anderson got hurt, then hendo left the ufc. for the ufc on fox card anderson again said no and got “hurt.” this is what happened. chael v. stann was a #1 contender fight and anderson again said no, so chael has to fight again. if he wins anderson will say no again.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he had broken ribs but obviously he wasn't himself , if he can triangle lutter he can sure as hell triangle sonnen in the first round when he's 100%

It’s not even the ribs that are a big deal but that sonnen with the testosterone of Thor failed so silva already beat the best chael you’ll ever see . Stop the stupid speculation and hypothetical question and request for the goat cause you hate him .

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I like Silva but to be honest I don't think his ribs were the reason he was losing.

Maybe they made him fight less than 100%, but in the end we all know that he was getting out wrestled and punched on by a guy using roids. He didn’t look himself because he getting his ass kicked which is something we’re not used to seeing.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I lost all respect for him after the Maia fight

He clowned someone he should have put away in the first. Then everyone wants to jump on the rib injury band wagon. Which there is zero proof of. Jim Miller didnt look like himself against Henderson but no one cried about that saying he didnt fight like himself. n look what happend, he was legit. But if its Silva and there is no proof then everyone defends him. Yes Chael fucked up. But with or without the trt, Chael is the toughest fight for Silva. To be the best, you have to beat the best. n thats what Sonnen wants to do. Couture didnt cry when he had to rematch Liddell. The UFC was built on rematches and trilogies

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

there is proof bro

I saw Like Water at Tribeca, goes over the whole camp for the Sonnen fight in depth. Shows the actual moment he gets hurt in training.
Just sayin, get your facts straight before you throw stuff out like “no proof”

This will not stand man, this aggression will not stand!

by RearNakedToke on Jan 21, 2012 1:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Anderson is faking his injuries

He is probably training with a BJJ master down in Brazil so next time he has to face Sonnen he can just sub him in the first round.

by p rock on Jan 20, 2012 5:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He's not faking shit

Sonnen is faking these behind the scenes occurrences he apparently knows all about .

Motherfucker you guys are fucking stupid , stop being chaels minions and get back to being mma fans.

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Half these guys didn't even like chael before he started talking shit.

And Sonnen is the fake if anything. He took roids which is cheating, and he’s a fraud in the real estate profession.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing in my statement had anything to do with just watching UFC.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Never said most people you dumb shit, can't you read?

I said half these guys, referring to most people on this site, not too many people liked Sonnen when he was tapping out to Forrest Griffin, or when he was a quiet guy in WEC.

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by Cyclonejoker on Jan 20, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i wouldnt mind seeing sonnen vs jones .. but that would mean rashad getting fd over again if he whins against davis.

by Nightmare83 on Jan 20, 2012 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

if rashad beats davis

Shad and Jones is happening. (injuries aside).

Fighters fight. Snitches Snitch.

by Deuce02 on Jan 20, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

He says it's his opinion that he'll never fight again

I guess when the wolves are leaving the sport some of the puppies start to bark to try and get the respect without the same level of achievement.

by grapplefan on Jan 20, 2012 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

-1

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 20, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

-1

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 7:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

wtf?

+1 = 0

now were even

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by OilCheck on Jan 20, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

KC -1
THE REST OF MANIA -0
i win Pictures, Images and Photos

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

well done! LOL!

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 20, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont think sonnen could get down to 170 .. not even in his dreams.

by Nightmare83 on Jan 20, 2012 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

lol huh he wasnt .. and he wasnt able to get to 186 either ..

by Nightmare83 on Jan 20, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

hey missed weight about half the time .. ufc 141 was not his first time missing weight.

by Nightmare83 on Jan 20, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

that's not the point.

The point is that is he was able to make 170 at some point so could Chael.

by jewjiffshoes on Jan 20, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because one fighter did,

Doesn’t mean another can. Is that the new MMA math?

You mind your own damn business.

by jestermarcus on Jan 20, 2012 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fuck 170 lbs

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It MIGHT be possible.

But no fucking way he does it. He used to fight at LHW, and at his age, that cut would be brutal.

You mind your own damn business.

by jestermarcus on Jan 20, 2012 6:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this is what i dont get though is with the injuries to both silva and gsp .. doesnt that give them time to set up a gsp vs silva fight at 177 ..

by Nightmare83 on Jan 20, 2012 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

that fight will never, ever, EVER, ever, EVER, EVER happen

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i know and that sucks .. its bs they should make them fight .. dana should be like look turds the only fight left is agaisnt eachother ..

by Nightmare83 on Jan 20, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

but dana could never do that

Dana has no control over a fighters BEST weight they feel they can fight at. If GSP says hes 100% at 170 and Andy says the same about 185, how can you tell one or the other that they have to take a hit to compete against the other best pound for pounder on the Planet?

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

thankfully that's the one thing Dana can't make a fighter do

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

everyone's got a price.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 20, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

really?

cauuuuuse Flloyd and Manny are at what 70 mill each + and still aren’t throwing down?

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the only person stopping it is Arum.

he’s not getting $70mill.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 20, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Dana should make them fight !

tell them look I’ll double the cut on ppv

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

dana isn't strong enough

to make abyone fight. especially not andy and gsp

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

If he threw enough money their way, im sure they'd meet at 170

nothings impossible.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 20, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i meant 177

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Jan 20, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

meah

Been talked about well over a year now. And its no closer to happening then it ever has been. It will never happen with the two in their prime and almost for certain never at all.

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 6:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thats what ive always wanted.

Neither title on the line, both guys making a sacrifice and meeting in the middle.

You mind your own damn business.

by jestermarcus on Jan 20, 2012 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

chael is just an idiot

it’s more than obvious he will fight again*AND* that if sonnen beats bizzy he’ll be taking that fight against Andy in no time flat.

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

exactly

no one should be fooled into thinking he isn’t immediately announced as fighting Andy should he get passed Bisping.

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

And that's because...

Stann was a #1 contender? He was also supposed to rematch before overdoing his TRT

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

jon fitch ufc 117

jon fitch ufc 127

pride never die.

by vhw_ on Jan 20, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

rashad ufc 113

rashad ufc 134 (i believe)

pride never die.

by vhw_ on Jan 20, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

if he says its a #1 contender fight

then yes thats what it is. Silva was already injured n then got another injury after. So now Sonnen is the number 1 contender fighting in another number 1 contender fight instead of waiting

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I get what you're saying

But is Phil going to get the shot with a win over Rashad?

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

no

they already said that fight isnt #1 contender for him

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet he sits at home after training and goes

now, what kind of shit can I come up with next so I can get people to talk about me.

by jewjiffshoes on Jan 20, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i guaran'fuckin'tee he does that

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i can't stand chael yawnnen

my bad.

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You have to respect the fact

that at no point has he hid from fighting whoever they put in front of him instead of waiting for AS. Does not care about risking his contender status because he really believes he is the best.

by jewjiffshoes on Jan 20, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have to respect shit about chael , he's a cheater so off course hell fight anyone when he's drenched with testosterone

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

of course he does that

and he laughs all the way to the bank

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

unless the injuries continue

I can see what Henderson is saying. N I think a lot of these injuries n stuff would be a good excuse for him and the nut huggers to use if Silva loses. Bottom line is he has avoided Sonnen and as the champ that’s not how shit works

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

how does a guy rehabbing his shoulder hurt his back? how does he train wandy? why is he in the gym all the time if he is "hurt"????

according to my memory, the only time anderson silva has come up lame involved getting out of fights with dan henderson and chael sonnen. very interesting.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Silva vs Bones is the fight that we should all be pushing to make happen

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

So tell me what the fuck is gonna happen then , oh wise one

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm so sick of hearing this bullshit.

How the fuck is AS scared of chael? How? He already beat him. Finished him to be precise. Henderson got his ass kicked even worse. What the fuck are you guys talking about?? Jesus Christ. This is getting old.

by emperorj on Jan 20, 2012 6:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

+ a million emperorj

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 7:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

gsp is the only champ who ducks fights

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Jan 20, 2012 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

just cause he "ducked diaz"

doesnt mean that jones didnt duck rashad and silva hasnt ducked chael and hendo

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah bc u seen him doin hard drills huh have u ever heard of a instructor FUCK y would he b scared of hendo or scumbag chael he beat both those girls on roids

I’ll say it AGAIN because alot of u blindly dismiss it and it cracks me up he was on ROIDS LOL

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Jan 20, 2012 6:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

trt, dr approved to get them to normal levels

ya sonnen fucked up. but if we didnt forgive them after then Diaz would still be smoking and not in the ufc

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

dude nick still smokes just gets clean before fights and im sorry ididnt know weed was a ped

Anyone who backs chael and thinks he’s right is a scumbag like him if u think he’s funny that’s a different story….and again THEY USE STEROIDS. And silva is the goat he doesn’t have to fight bums like chael and hendo if he doesn’t want to….better more fresh matches out there

NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012

by 209stk on Jan 20, 2012 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

not at middleweight

different weight classes yes. but after all of silvas big talk about lhw and hw he decided to say anyone that wants to fight him has to come to his division. n middleweight is slim pickings

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Here comes the...

“What better matches are there???” responses

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

if hendo can fight at 185 and 205

Anderson can too

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

hes cleared out the division. almost every champion has had rematches

its whats made the ufc what it is today
liddel couture
penn gsp
hughes gsp
penn hughes
liddell ortiz
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hughes trigg
i can keep going

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Cruz Faber

The difference is they didn’t overdo their levels of TRT, well Couture didn’t I don’t think. He is on a 1 fight win streak since being suspended man. Silva’s fought twice and I know Yushin isn’t the cream of the crop but so many people called Vitor. Look how easily he put him away and Chael got subbed. Was it luck? Do you think Chael could actually finish the goat in a rematch?

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i wouldnt say he couldnt

Vitor got his with a 1 and 1000 shot. Both are lethal and it could go either way 50/50. n thats my problem with Silva is that half of his title defenses arent cream of the crop

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

and yes i would call his win over Sonnen a hail mary

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that yes it was looking bad

I almost wish the spider didn’t even go for the finish and rode it out. That way Chael becomes champion til the results. The results come back and Dana cuts his ass. No way he lets him stay in the org cheating as the actual champion.

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He already fought them both

Get your head out of your ass

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i dont know i dont even think sonnen deserved his first title shot .. dude got subd by maia .. and dry humped nate the not so great down to the welter weight divison.. not that impressive … and he got his title shot and got subd and then whined about it .. its not like he said yeah anderson got me .. let me get a rematch .. he cried about taping out …

by Nightmare83 on Jan 20, 2012 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

sonnen beat dan miller, yushin okami,nate mardquart

then got a title shot,seems deserving to me

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by letter19 on Jan 20, 2012 6:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

WTF

Anderson pisses me off, if he never fights again I will look back at his career as massive let down

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

read the article, young illiterate one

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by daniel worby on Jan 20, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You'll look at his career as a let down because chael sonnen told you to ??

Wow you’re a fucking retard .
Hear me ?
Retard

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well

Chael did say it and has won over half of his UFC fights. What is there not to believe wooly?

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck you

I’ll be let down cuz he should of moved up to 205

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe he should lat it down .. fedor kept going look how that turned out … eventually father time will catch to him and hes no young spring chicken ..

by Nightmare83 on Jan 20, 2012 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

BULL SHIT

Go out on your shield , you don’t retire like this

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter if this fight doesn't happen.

AS has already beaten him.
And Sonnen was cheating when he lost!!!
Are they going to keep making them fight until CS wins, roided up or not?? Madness.

by WHTID on Jan 20, 2012 6:05 PM EST reply actions  

It does matter

There is no one else to fight if he won’t fight Sonnen or Bones , I’ll fucking call Obama !!!!!!!!!! I’ll do it man !!!!!!!

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

As a matter of fact...

Let’s just have Hendo rematch AS, no wait he lost in the 2nd as opposed to the 5th. So Chael Connin got closer to the victory, even though it would have been overturned anyway…

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Anderson shold be forced to fight bones jones

This epic match has to happen !!!! Anderson has wasted his career on meaningless foes ! It makes the UFC look pathetic .

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that's an idea

I’m at work and it keeps reverting me to your toilet pic, thanks Randall!

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasted his career on meaningless foes ?

Or do you mean never losing to professional , yes professional , fighters in the biggest organization of mma in the world.

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Worthless title defenses , look em up

He should be at 205

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

So chael was worthless , and he cheated . But silva should be forced to fight him again ...

Allah damn you’re delusional

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fuck Chael !!!!

Anderson should have been fighting at 205 yrs ago !!

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Because you're the one to determine what weight class is best for a fighter .

Shit he should be at hw just because you idiots just want to see him lose .

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

People like you make me sick

Silva’s career has been wasted on Leites , meia, the 2nd franklin fight, james irvin , patrick cote , okami , after awhile enough is a fucking nuff !!!!!!!

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

just make me Andersons match maker

You guys would be alot happier with his opponents

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

His next fight would be Jon Jones, we know.

Let’s just keep pushing Rashad to the back of the line. (I don’t think he should be at the front with a boring win over Rampage and a “great” win over Tito for the record) but I’d love to see Jon destroy him. And I became a fan after tuf too…

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck Rashad he can wait another yr

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And the best are at 205

Silva himself should have decided to make the move up 2-3 yrs ago when you’re the goat more is expected of you

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

anderson turned down the hendo rematch on fox too and after hendo h-bombed bisbing. he doesn't want to fight either guy.

i guess st. pierre should have never got a matt hughes rematch cause that bitch lost in the first. see how stupid you sound???

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Make this motherfucker fight Bones

I’m not letting this go

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It's be best if you did

Cause Andy is number 1 , not jones . If jones want to have the resume of Andy , let him call Andy out .

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Andy should be the one saying give me bones

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That makes sense cause jones is capable of being a mw

Andy hasn’t lost in the UFC , he’s the goat , and he’s a mw . He doesn’t have to jump through hoops and fight til he loses just because haters can’t stand that he just won’t be defeated .

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He should be saying to Dana give me jones

I am the greatest and I deserve the toughest match up possible

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Oranges and apples

You’re one to say somebody sounds stupid…

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be hilarious. Bisping as the interim champion

Why do you think he is faking injuries at the end of a legendary career? How do you know he is not hurt? You’re just speculating. He fought the best Chael Connin and won. The arguments are old and tired. If Chael would have won, then he probably would have been cut because they can’t have a champ cheating. And for the record I was actually going for Connin because I was tired of Silva’s antics.

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

u don't know that was the best sonnen. he has been pulling this nonsense since hendo left the ufc. in fact, it is a big reason why hendo left the ufc.

the argument is legit. there is so much evidence it isn’t even funny. silva sends soares out to say hendo doesn’t deserve a fight, then tries to fight someone else, the ufc pushes a little harder and silva says he’s hurt. this is the soares/silva method of fight control. chael can beat anderson. anyone who blindly says no is a nuthugger. btw, mild bursitis only takes a couple months to rehab. anderson is faking.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jan 20, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes best fight the best

But he already beat the best chael well ever see . The one that was soaked with testosterone .
So strip him ? Just cause everyone hates that he just doesn’t lose . Lol he’s injured people

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Anderson Silva is the second coming of Fedor. He beats Jones and Chael handily on the same night.

Chael is American trash, seriously this kid is representing you? This criminal cheat is representing you, and you have no problem with that? Us British are proud to say we support our own, Alistair Overeem.

That’s the direction America is going in though, putting criminal cheats on a pedestal. Idolizing the very scum of the earth, this only happens in America. America has no respect, no honor, no loyalty.

You don’t disrespect the G.O.A.T, period. You respect legends like Anderson and Shogun.

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by danago on Jan 20, 2012 6:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Oh, 8=Danago

Alistair Overeem is a cheat too. :-)

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Legends take on the toughest opponents possible

Anderson has failed in this aspect

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You're trolling beyond belief and it doesn't even elicit laughter .

So stop

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by wooly shambler on Jan 20, 2012 6:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You’re begging an old man to move up in weight to fight a young lion like Jones, are you serious kid. I guess every current champ should move up in weight then?

Anderson is the GOAT, he’s the second coming of Fedor. He’s beaten every opponent and provided some of the best knockouts over the years. Want to take that title away from him? Beat him.

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by danago on Jan 20, 2012 6:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Look when it became clear he was unrivaled at 185 he should of moved up

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He's still the GOAT don't get me wrong

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He's the goat... BUT...

you are so disappointed in him. We get it

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 20, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the rest of that pic is yungbull with his dick out

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

haha oh Danago

you have Bisbing, Daley, Hardy repping you
Your a WANKER
Gotta love Brazilians tho, always respectful with honor and loyalty. Thats why theyre murder rate and crime rate are 4 times higher than the U.S.

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The Brazilians support their fighters through thick and thin. The same can’t be said for the Americans. You push a cheating, criminal to the front? That’s laughable, American MMA is dead.

Let’s face it, America is a mess right now. It has been for years. When you have a generation aspiring to be those off Jersey Shore, you have problems. Brazilian and Britannia have respect and loyalty, something you lack. Settle this like a real man and come get some if you want, I’m a warrior.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 20, 2012 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

thats why you ignored my British point, your a cock warrior. You have been through many battles and taken many shots to the face

Bisping, Daley, Hardy……
Our government doesnt listen to us so get over it. They would rather make sure your country and everyone else is running good.
British MMA is dead, then again if something is never born, can it die?

your a wanker and your arguments are bloody awful. you’ve gone soft over the years

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh! BAMMA!

8=Danago likes the REEM JOB.

by OilCheck on Jan 20, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t blame the kid you voted in LOL. I will own you, just like my ancestors did yours. It’s in my blood, you have nothing for me. Call yourself a bad boy? I’m a bad man.

We have the face of K1 and MMA representing us. The one and only Overeem. Bisping will soon hold the MW belt, British dominance in MMA in underway.

Bobby Southworth

by danago on Jan 20, 2012 7:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

haha dont assume everyone falls for the celebrity vote

ahhh is bad man the clothing brand that shogun wears?
The closest Bisping will ever get to being the face off MMA is spitting in the face of the champion!
Dominance? Sounds like someone doesnt like America cause they cant get over how dominant wrestling is. what are Overeem and Bispings weakest areas? oh ya!
You are a bad man… bad enough that every newcomer here knows your a troll.
so go ahead, get your troll on!

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

also with Brazlians being respectful, having honest, and loyalty

Thats why Silva cried about Vitor being a trader and was respectful during his Maia fight.
So you have no point
RESPECT MY NUTS!

by KCmmaBadBoy on Jan 20, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure what this has to do with anything

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

yah

there’s resectful and disrespectful people in all countries

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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 20, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

but 8=Danagos countrymen are better than you. And brazilians.

I’m still attempting to cope. Ill be having a focus group setup soon so we can all try and be great men like… 8=Danago

by yungbull on Jan 20, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Sonnen is now a truth sayer?

I doubt we have seen the last of Anderson Silva. Why make it easy for Chael? Anderson probably wanted a chunk of time off to relax and recharge, and figured to give Sonnen grief while doing it. Notice Sonnen didn’t say or discuss Anderson vacating the belt and having a new MW champ???

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+1000000

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