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Latest UFC on FX 1 odds and betting guide for Miller vs Guillard'

Jim Miller is pumped up after a big win at UFC 124. Bet he can get another one over Melvin Guillard in the UFC on FX main event this Friday? Photo of Miller via UFC.com.

Put on your blue suede shoes because it’s time to break it down.

Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) will make its way back down to Nashville, Tenn., for a Friday night (Jan. 20, 2012) fracas for the first time since April 2009 at the Bridgestone Arena.

Deposed lightweight contenders Melvin Guillard and Jim Miller will collide in the main event for a chance to scrape their way back to the top of the heap, while resurgent Duane Ludwig and Josh Neer will go toe-to-toe in their climbs up the welterweight ladder.

And whenever (and wherever) there’s high-octane punching, there’s money to be made.

Join us after the jump for a closer look at the odds behind UFC on FX 1: "Miller vs. Guillard:"

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UFC on FX 1 Under Card Odds:

Nick Denis (-225) vs. Joseph Sandoval (+175)
Daniel Pineda (-135) vs. Pat Schilling (-105)
Fabricio Camoes (-280) vs. Tom Hayden (+220)
Kamal Shalorus (-115) vs. Habib Nurmagomedov (-115)
Charlie Brenneman (-300) vs. Daniel Roberts (+230)
Eric Schafer (-140) vs. Jorge Rivera (+110)

Thoughts: I'm not going to lie, Maniacs, the pickin’s are slim this week. The "Prelims" are loaded with UFC debutants and painfully inconsistent veterans. The only guys I consider worth risking money on are Denis (as a parlay stuffer) and Nurmagomedov (straight up).

Denis is more experienced than Sandoval, both in quality and quantity of opposition, and plays Sandoval’s game far better than he does. He’s got truly ferocious power in his hands and Sandoval, while by no means a bad fighter, has neither the savagery of Marlon Sandro nor the sneaky submissions game of Yuji Hoshino.

Denis should be able to put him away with little trouble and is, in my opinion, worth a bet as low as -250.

While it’s always a risk betting against the more seasoned wrestler, Shalorus just does so many things wrong that Nurmagomedov, while probably a smarter play on the various sites presenting him as an underdog, strikes me as a solid bargain. I doubt he’ll be able to get Shalorus to the ground, but he’s a much cleaner striker and is significantly faster than Shalorus.

Put some down straight up on the Russian.

UFC on FX Main Card Odds:

Pat Barry (-175) vs. Christian Morecraft (+145)
Mike Easton (-400) vs. Jared Papazian (+300)
Duane Ludwig (-135) vs. Josh Neer (+105)
Jim Miller (-180) vs. Melvin Guillard (+150)

Thoughts: Interesting handful of battles. Let’s see what we’ve got in store.

I will never, in my time as an mixed martial arts (MMA) gambler, put money down on any fight involving Pat Barry ever again. He’s got enormous power, he’s much faster than he’s given credit for, and he has some of the best kicks in the division, but nobody snatches defeat from the jaws of victory quite like "HD." Morecraft looked pretty pathetic last time out against Matt Mitrione, but frankly, I have no idea what Barry’s going to do once the cage door shuts.

Leave this one alone.

Easton is a major prospect despite his decision "win" over Chase Beebe in 2009. He also holds notable wins over The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 14 veterans Josh Ferguson and John Dodson, even though the fights took place a while ago. Further, he trains out of Alliance MMA and has demonstrated serious power and speed in the Octagon. The issue with this bout, however, is my inability to find recent footage of Papazian, who owns wins over the likes of Abel Cullum and previously-unbeaten Marvin Garcia. With the amount of money needed to make a profit at -400, I can’t advocate putting money down on Easton (though I do believe he’ll win handily), and I don’t know enough about Papazian’s current abilities to risk anything on him.

Again, leave this one alone.

I was flat-out shocked by Ludwig’s performance against Amir Sadollah, considering his shaky chin and historically-porous ground game. I expected Sadollah to run roughshod over him. His takedown defense and crisp technique impressed me quite a bit and, despite his gas tank running low near the end, he nevertheless made me feel ashamed for writing him off.

If he wins on Friday, I’m going to feel bloody awful.

Despite that victory, the fact remains that "Bang" hasn’t won three straight since 2006, has been finished 10 times, and is a pretty small welterweight. Neer isn’t a world-beater, but he’s only ever been finished once by strikes, while having enough power to put down Ludwig and a submission game that is far superior. At +105, Neer is definitely worth putting money down on -- it ought to be a great fight, but he’s the more durable of the two and is far superior on the ground.

Miller strikes me as a terrible match up for Guillard. Not only does he possess the notorious Miller Brothers indestructible DNA, he’s got the sort of wrestling and grappling games that have given "Young Assassin" fits all throughout his career. Unlike Shane Roller, an accomplished wrestler who found himself completely unable to generate offense, Miller is durable and skilled enough on the feet to set up his shots properly and is more than capable of bringing down Guillard.

Naturally, Guillard could certainly score a knockout shot -- there are few people at 155 pounds I’d pick to eat a flush bomb from him and stay standing. With Miller’s relentless approach and the fact that Guillard continues to struggle against tough guys with his type of style, the latter strikes me as an excellent value at -180.

Therefore, cram Miller into a parlay.

UFC on FX 1 Best Bets:

  • Single bet: Josh Neer -- Bet $50 to make $52.50
  • Single bet: Habib Nurmagomedov -- Bet $40 to make $34.78
  • Parlay: Jim Miller and Nick Denis -- Bet $41.41 to make $51.63

Now go get on your 10-gallon hat on and enjoy some quality scraps this weekend.

See you Friday, Maniacs.

Remember that MMAmania.com will deliver live UFC on FX 1 results this Friday, which is as good a place as any to talk about all the action inside the Octagon, as well as what you've got riding on the sportsbook.

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Red is gonna choke Rivera out after getting punched in the face alot

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by The Pride on Jan 18, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Rivera has cardio for approximately 17 seconds

Hell, a gassed phillopou almost omaplated him.

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by The Pride on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

overall yes

But Shafer has very good BJJ. Phillopou’s isnt shabby by any means, but Shafer has been working his BJJ in MMA for like 14 years

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by The Pride on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

im shocked youre shocked

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

red looked like a invalid in his fight against simpson. The mans a one trick pony!

While i think rivera should be the favorite , its not by much. Im happy with the odds though, wont see me complaining. Guess you got red to wooly?

by letstalkmma on Jan 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m not sure how you can pick Rivera over anyone…..the dude is terrible.

by kg12 on Jan 19, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea I think red

209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!

by wooly shambler on Jan 19, 2012 1:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Schafer's fought a lot of wrestlers, Simpson being one of them.

Rivera shouldn’t be able to dictate where the fight takes place as easily but it might come down to who shows up. Can’t imagine Schafer will want to stand with him (which would be a disaster for any better and some fighters do things like that).

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 5:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I like your bets

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by The Pride on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

hmmm

I didn’t see any betting odds except for the Miller/Guillard fight until now

except the Neer/Ludwig and Schilling/Pineda fight I picked the betting favorites…. hmmm

"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."

by wolfman13 on Jan 18, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Great article

Its nice to see another gamblers perspective. Hope to see more in up comming events. Nice job mr stumberg!

by Danu on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Guillard at +150 is a bargain

Single Bet: Melvin Guillard— bet $50 to make $75
2 Parlay: Melvin Guillard + Charlie Brenneman — bet $50 to make $130.56
3 Parlay: Melvin Guillard + Charlie Brenneman + Nick Denis — bet $25 to make $95.37

Reasons why I pick Guillard.

-In sept 2009 after Guillards 2nd rnd submission loss to Diaz, Guillard joined Jackson’s gym and strategically Guillard has used his wrestling to keep it standing or to standup after getting takendown to go 6-1. This eliminates his submssion and cardio issues for the 1st 2 rnds at least while he’s feeling strong and puts him where he’s best, standup. Who says Guillard wrestling defense isnt good enough to stop Millers takedown offense?

Guillards Wrestliing Credentials:
-Guillard was a Lousiana state champion in wrestling ( not a tough state for wrestling)
-Guillard wrestled 1 year in Colby college and 2 yrs for junior national freestyle & Greco

Millers Wrestling Credentials:
-Wrestled high school in New Jersey, which is a tough wrestling state.
-Walked on to do some wrestling at Virginia Tech for 1 year… tough wrestling college… so miller must be good.

Final thoughts:
Guillard’s jaw is suspect
Miller has a sturdy jaw
Guillard weakness is submissions
Miller is flat footed and slow in comparison to Guillard’s speed advantage
Miller has terrible head movement
Miller has some distractions in his life, newborn daughter, newphew need kidney transplant
Guillard is now with the Blackzillians, positive or negative?

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 4:35 AM EST reply actions  

Problem being if Guillard loses, you lose all bets

Every time i’ve lost it’s because of this. I think it’s a hard fight for both; Miller has the advantage as the fight goes on imo, but he will unfortunately have to run the gauntlet standing with Melvin for good amount of time.

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 5:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasnt suggesting to do all the bets.. just to pick one of the 3 options

some may only like Guillard straightup, some guys like to do 2 fight parlays, and others like 3 fight parlays because they don’t like to risk much $.

Myself I think Im going to go with the 2 fight parlay of Guillard + brenneman
I will be doing some other parlays but this is the one I like the most.

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

that was pretty stupid of me actually. I've seen your bets enough to know that you'd not do 2 small parlays with the same two fighters

I do like Brennaman in a parlay and Melvin is where the value is for the main event for sure. Also it seems like there are good arguments for him to beat Miller just like it is the other way round. I’m actually torn because I think Melvin will not be cocky this time and considering Miller’s loses Melvin is actually a strong athletic wrestler too, with fast hands (thinking Maynard, Bendo especially).

I might not even touch this fight.

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

no prob

I was hoping guillard wouldnt come in over -150 (lol)… Im pretty thrilled to see him at +150

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

what's your opinion of my 3 fight parlay below?

Too risky? Just retarded. I don’t bet big because I’m studying so I try and find big value.

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Problem is I think Neer has to take it to the ground even though I think it'll be a close fight if he doesn't

Schafer is almost Pat Barry material where you just can’t bet on him, but I really like his chances against Jorge and I like Denis and Pineda to win and the value is twice as good for Pineda which is good for the parlay.

I like the value but 2 two fight parlays (or throw in Brennaman in one) might be better for betting.

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Denis, Schafer, brenneman, Guillard… I think the schafer and Guillard fight is the most volatile of the 4 but that’s why the odds are what they are.

Habib Nurmagomedov (-115) sounds interesting but I havent researched him enough yet to decide if Im going to do something with him … still got all of tomorrow.

Pineda is good on paper but I don’t have nothing more than highlight of Schilling

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

My parlay to add to those above, I think it's solid for this card;

Schafer, Pineda and Neer ($20) = $96.13

This is my multi event long shot parlay which I might make;

Pineda, Neer, Sonnen, Rashad, Diaz and Vitor ($20) = $260.68.

Not recommended, but I feel confident personally, below might be a better way to do the parlay after making a seperate one for the FX card.

Rashad, Sonnen, Diaz and Vitor ($20) = $61.68

If anybody replies and helps me out i’d appreciate it too.

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 6:08 AM EST reply actions  

about neer and Pineda

I have never seen Pat Schilling fight.. have u?.. I know all the reasons on paper point to picking Pineda, but since I havent seen Schilling fight Im going to pass

I havent seen Ludwigs last 2 fights vs Osipczak and Sadollah and I cant find video anywhere not even on UFCTV, odds have them pretty much around -110 sounds like an even fight to me… I have to pass on this fight for lack of video

Unfortunately for me, Im playing the moneymania pool and Ludwig vs Neer is the hot bout and I have to choose… so Im digging for as much info as I can and I think I have to go with Neer.

I like your long shot parlay of Sonnen, Rashad, Diaz and Vitor.. if Neer and Pineda lose.. just do those 4 guys and add 2 new picks to that list for you multi event long shot.. and continue with it.

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks Thorazine

I do love the multi event parlay because some are close odds with imo a fairly clear favourite (Rashad, Diaz, Vitor).

Yeah, I’m taking a risk on Schilling being outmatched by recommendation. He’s got one quick fight on youtube and he looked impressive in an unimpressive situation (derp). This is MMA and it’s not a good bet but like I said, bigger risk to win with less money for me.

I think Ludwig has the edge on the feet (not a great insight by any means) and I just wonder what Neer’s mentality is about taking it to the ground. I don’t see Neer getting finished easily at all either.

Best of luck on the betting and the pool.

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 8:37 AM EST reply actions  

lol.. that is my conern about Neer as well

If Neer decides to keep it standing he will lose, if decides to take it to the ground he most likely will win. I don’t know what neers mentality is on that, he seems to want to keep it on his feet lately, hes a tough customer but he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed, he may want to gun for fight of the night honors in losing to Ludwig via standup war.

On the other hand I know Ludwig is a good athlete has improved his wrestling defense by a lot, but I havent seen any video of him lately so I cant determine it myself… Neer on the other hand began wrestling in elementry school.

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

totally agree

It’s tough, I didn’t see Neer vs Keith Wisniewski but I did see Ludwig v Sadollah and from what I can remember Sadollah went for a few takedowns and failed.

Saying that I don’t think Amir can get the takedown like Neer, walk through shots like Neer or be able to perform as well after getting banged up for the first few rounds.

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah I gotta go with neer, I did see the fight with Wisnieski...

I swear Neer threw mega elbows standing, probably 50 and hit him with about 80% accuracy and end it via cuts, and I think I read somewhere he trained with diaz or diaz’s boxing coach. Neer doesnt have much power but he has that diaz style of jabing and punching

Ludwig is 33 years old walks around 195 lbs vs neer 28yrs old walks around 185lbs,,, Ludwig has stated how much he respects wrestling and has been training very hard with it. he is also on the Dolce diet year around to keep in top shape… so weight cutting is not a problem

I have to go with neer on this one unless I find video and re-evalute Ludwigs takedown defense

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

just got lucky and watched the Neer vs Ludwig

I pick neer, and his recent interviews indicate he’s going to trade a lot but not at the expense of losing, if he has to take it to the ground he will…

Neer has superior wrestling and cardio advantage.. Neer will have a hard time taking ludwig down in center of the cage but once he drives Ludwigs back to the cage he should be able to grind out takedowns, Ludwig gasses and wilts a bit when pressure for takedowns in that spot.

I like Neer in your parlay afterall

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that an interview? Where was it?

Thanks for the confirmation, I think a Neer willing to use his tools has an advantage beyond what the odds show (if all goes well).

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

ok but give strumberg a recommend there.. don't be stingy..

His info throughout ‘odds and betting guide’ really cut my time in 1/2. MoneyPool is for bragging writes, this side is for discussion. don’t pay any attention to anyone that disagree with 2 or 3 fight parlays… I’ve never hit anything above a 4 fight parlay… but I keep trying…it’s like a lottery ticket for me.. I keep buying it but I’ll never win ‘sigh’.

Cya next strumberg site if your going to continue betting on cards… I need a running partner on here.. u fit the description….lol… I got lots of info on methods of parlay if u wanna post yr email.. gud stuff some math, but all you really need to do is understand the principles of parlay, ask me anything u wanna know.

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

sorry P-shizzle. Never remember to do that, even if I comment to show my appreciation.

I pretty much always read these depending on if i’m reading mania and enjoy them.

by grapplefan on Jan 19, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean Josh Neer interview links...duh.. got all kinds of names runing through my head

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Jan 19, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  


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