UFC 142 a reminder too much of a good thing isn't such a good thing
In case you hadn't heard, UFC 142: "Aldo vs. Mendes" takes place tonight (Sat., Jan. 14, 2012) from the HSBC Arena in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It almost seems sensational to say such a thing but let's get real here: there's too much MMA these days.
Way too much.
I hate to toot the oversaturation horn but the quickest way to make something feel less important is to offer a lot of it. And now that Zuffa has purchased Strikeforce, we're to a point where "major" MMA fights are happening damn near every weekend of the year.
That's not a good thing, either.
Take tonight, for instance. One of the best fighters on Earth, Jose Aldo, will defend his featherweight championship in front of his home crowd against Chad Mendes, a strong American wrestler. And no one really cares. Sometimes it's difficult but if you can jump outside your MMA bubble and see things through a far more casual lens, which is what most fans are looking through, you'll realize how small time this fight feels.
In fact, as far as buzz online and all other business indicators, this event is DOA. MMAmania.com does rather well with page views and all that but it's obvious when an event comes that really moves the needle. So far, this one has hardly touched it. It's sad, really. These fighters deserve better.
But so do we, the fans. You know, the ones being asked to shell out $60 for these shows.
We're being told now to care about cards that are headlined by men who have never once even been on the main card of a UFC pay-per-view. It's entirely possible that a large segment of the fanbase who actually does bother to buy the show tonight won't have a clue who Mendes is or where he came from. They'll just see a small, compact fighter against another small, but speedy fighter but the speedy guy is champion, so at least we know he's kind of a big deal.
And that's the problem, ladies and sirs; with the UFC so eager to hold a new event every weekend, they're giving themselves no time to properly build up a veritable stable of superstars. If you put Jon Jones up on a pedestal, he'll stand out in a small crowd. But what happens if that crowd just grows and grows and grows and you don't get the necessary time to sift through it?
He becomes just another member of the crowd.
WWE fans have been dealing with this problem for some time now. The difference? The pro wrestling promotion holds a pay-per-view event once a month. Even then, fans decry the lack of a proper build to each event and can't help but feel cheated because they've been given no reason to care. And how could they? There are only three to four weeks in between major shows.
UFC, on the other hand, is trying to make us care while running shows almost every week. That's completely impossible. Fighting is not enough. Purists will tell me I'm wrong but the reality is that fighting is just not enough to make us truly care. Casual viewers enjoy drama and they while they don't necessarily need a backstory, it's far preferable than not having one. You know why the Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir rematch sold 1.6 million buys on pay-per-view? Because it had the proper storyline going into it. Or how about Rashad Evans vs. Quinton Jackson or Chael Sonnen vs. Anderson Silva. You can go back all the way to Chuck Liddell vs. Tito Ortiz and even Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock.
All big money bouts and not just because they were fights but because fans actually had a reason to care about them.
What exactly are we supposed to care about tonight? Brazilian defends title in front of partisan crowd against guy no one knows and they're both small enough to look like my kid brother.
Excuse me while I rush to the remote and place my order.
UFC President Dana White should almost feel grateful to Anthony Johnson for his weight cutting issues. It's actually provided an interesting story for fans to key on heading into the event. Everyone in Brazil seemingly loves Vitor Belfort and the guy who signed to fight him couldn't make weight. In fact, he missed badly, coming in a full 11 pounds over the agreed upon limit. So it was stipulated that if Johnson could weigh in at under 205-pounds today (he did), the fight would go on as planned. If not, they would cancel it the day of the event.
Intrigue!
As silly as it all seems -- and it is when it comes down to it -- it's something actually worth following. And now when fans are watching the event tonight, they have a reason to want Belfort to tear Johnson's head off, unlike the main event, which has provided us with no clear reason to root for either man.
Imagine this conversation at a party tonight between friends:
"Vitor vs. Rumble up next, brother, who you got?"
"Rumble will probably win but I really want Belfort to knock him out. You see he missed weight by 11 pounds? Dude is supposed to be a professional and he's coming in that heavy? Go Vitor."
That may or may not have been a conversation I just had today.
And the headliner?
"Who you got in the main event?"
"Who's fighting again?"
I rest my case.
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Articles like this paint the wrong picture IMO
I’ve read articles with both view points, that it’s OK to have so many events and that’ it means death. It’s a good card, and there’s no such thing as too much MMA or UFC to me. I will be watching this event with the same amount of energy and excitement I would have for any other.
I admit I may be in the minority when I say that though. Lets just enjoy the night of fights.
"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."
It's fight night, Who care's how frequent they are. I'm on your side here Wolf.
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Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
But you have to remember guys
WE are the HARDCORES…we dont give a shit who fights, we will watch
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
we all will watch
But how many will order it compared to going to the bar,friends house,stream,etc. Hardcore or not, when it comes down to money, its gotta be a good card. Its does not have to be ufc 100 every ppv, but they can do better than this for a ppv.
2 week sig bet with Armando Baez
ufc 142
Goldmouth- rumble Baez- Belfort
Yea im either gunna watch this live illegally
or watch it after…illegally
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
same here...do you know what site I can watch it on?
If you do ill give you my email to send it to me if its not too much of a hassle
Train hard to fight easy.
by the chubbster on Jan 14, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know a site you can watch it right afterwards....like minutes afterwards
but watching it live, i still have to find it
Whats your email
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
i got ya chubbs, whats your email?
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
you know a live stream?
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
not for you stallion you homo.
Go find heath.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Listen when ever
you wanna man up and sig bet me, Ill destroy you
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Man up and sig bet you, Bitch please i've taken your heart from your body
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"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
You aint done shit!! Man UP

I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Dude i raped your sig this last time, 2-0, Tito didn't get to fight Chuck for a third time did he?
Suck it.

"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh you see, Im more like rampage....I keep coming

I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Rampage you say?

"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Third fight
Step up
Franke/Bendo
I got Bendo
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Risky. I was thinkin Condit-Diaz.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why, I thought frankie was the man
DO IT
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Frankie is the man.
And i just wanna see who you’re picking in the Condit-Diaz Interim fight.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Its tough...IDK
there both badasses and I really cant see either getting beat
I think im leaning condit, but you never know
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well i'm Diaz, Frankie here.
And i’m not sig betting you til you get a win under your belt.
So wait til after tonight. I’m goin for a big name tonight.
I wanna jack Unam’s bitch sig for pickin Etim.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
I got a shit ton of wins under my belt fool
Just ask KG12
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
well maybe you should hope you win tonight.
Remember i’ve beatin ya twice now, It’s under my rules to take you on again, Feel Me?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
We will meet again
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I love your sig still.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Big names like David W-S it seems haha
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
ViolentMike, DarksideDrew and Yan will all fail.
On 30th December the Pain Train shall disband.
Mr David WS, you are a named Regular, And you are online.
So yes. I’m comin for anyone. I’m 2-1 over .500.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like Wanderlei is setting up for Rey Mysterio's "619".
P4P TOP 5 1. Nick Diaz 2. Nate Diaz 3. Fedor 4. Overeem 5. Junie Browning … Also Nate AND Nick will both be champions of thier respective brackets. Dont Fuck With Mean Mug he will make you slob all over your most hated fighters knob 209 BITCHES!!!!!!
by Cyclonejoker on Jan 14, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
HA so true.
Never looked at it like that.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions

Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Fail.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
press the up button you'll know who i'm talking to.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
post your emails.
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
anyone else?
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
jackson_cruz@hotmail.com
I got a few but you can never have enough, I missed Zombie ko Hominick cause one didn’t work
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Cruz that happened
To me too. When I got a working one Goldberg is all having a red bull oversdose “IT IS ALL OVER!!!!” lol.
Fuck man i was choked. Going in between my email, Mania, And the stream site,
Fuckin 18 comments come up at the same time. All like GOD DAMN IT OH SHIT! and shit like that. I was like WHAT THE FUCK DID I MISS! I missed the fucking replay even. I was choked.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
no prob
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Is that really your email Drew?
haha. Your some kinda half legit muh fucka eh?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not sure what you're asking?
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
nevermind. haha.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
f-i-10@hotmail.com
Thanks bud
Train hard to fight easy.
by the chubbster on Jan 14, 2012 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
alright sent guys.
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Dont got shit Drew.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
check again. it didn't get bounced back and i confirmed your address.
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
i could always use a 2nd stream
Can you hook a brutha up drew?triplemark3@yahoo.com
2 week sig bet with Armando Baez
ufc 142
Goldmouth- rumble Baez- Belfort
me too please
"Every time I hear of this guy , I wonder how he was possible." - Joe DiMaggio
by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 14, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
sorry guys, just got back from the bar.
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 15, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
agreed as well but they didn't really hype the fight up
From the promos of the ppv it seems like Vitor vs Rumble is the main event, they’re the first thing shown an correct me if I’m wrong but all the other ones have the main event fighters shown first…
I for one am pumped for the car regardless but he has a point a lot of casuals won’t care about this card
Train hard to fight easy.
by the chubbster on Jan 14, 2012 5:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Little guys are exciting to some
I want to see crazy fast flying ninja tricks. it’s cool looking…
"I am the tomato can that crushed your champion, live with it."
If i could post a GIF or even know where to find one i would right now.
I know two perfect ones right now.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
agreed. the times when you get 3 fights a month instead of 1 are the times i feel most connected with the sport.
Just like football on Sundays, I need my fix every Saturday.
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hard times.
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Very hard times
Now too many cards is a bad thing? Psh
Don't understand why anyone bothered to make this article
Just watch the elite of athletes scrap and shush lol
silly article any major sport can succesfully showcase multiple events a day or week
I just think these internet journalists are having trouble covering a ever more frequent and mainstream sport.if you’re not interested in watching or writing about it don’t true fans will always be here
Most major sports don't ask you to pay $60 to watch an event
So it’s certainly a reasonable argument to bring up when there’s 2 PPVs at that price that are both diluted cards in the space of a fortnight.
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
ViolentMike, DarksideDrew and Yan will all fail.
On 30th December the Pain Train shall disband.
how is it silly
the numbers.are going to drop on this card…. maybe this is a good reason why?
only afterwards when the truth comes, and turns out that yes, the numbers are dropping… maybe it will make sense to you… but you’ll probably blame the article for the drop in the card ppv purchases lol
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it's an article making a valid point
feel free to disagree, but the article isn’t stupid. the numbers won’t be high in comparison. sorry that the article states the obvious which you choose to ignore (cause you like fighting so obviously it’s stupid and wrong)
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it's an article making a valid point
feel free to disagree, but the article isn’t stupid. the numbers won’t be high in comparison. sorry that the article states the obvious which you choose to ignore (cause you like fighting so obviously it’s stupid and wrong)
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've been thinking about this as well
I agree that there’s a problem with diluting the talent by having more events more often. But as a fan it’s excruciating waiting for events. I mean, hockey fags get games every night. Baseball fags sometimes get two games a night. Football fags (which I know you guys have in spades) have games at least once a week.
But we the poor orphaned fans of just one sport, MMA, sometimes have to wait 3 weeks between events. That’s like not masturbating for 3 weeks. When it’s all over and you’ve blown your load you’re basically in agony knowing it’ll be a while before the next one.
I look forward to having multiple events a week. As long as the talent is there.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is untill they want another baby.
You Sad? http://www.emooranges.ytmnd.com/
by OMGitsME on Jan 14, 2012 5:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thats why i like going to the bar. my tab is usually less then a ppv costs, so i look at it as getting drunk and eating and getting out of the house all for free.
Who is the only Maniac to appear in every mmamania fantasy football league superbowl in league history?
by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if you can eat AND get drunk for less than $50
I commend you. I also may need to admit i have a problem.lol
2 week sig bet with Armando Baez
ufc 142
Goldmouth- rumble Baez- Belfort
$20 on food and $30 on drinks usually has me feeling pretty good by the main event. Problem is when my girl comes too.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
my problem is
Stopping at feeling pretty good. For me its sober or shit faced. No middleground.
2 week sig bet with Armando Baez
ufc 142
Goldmouth- rumble Baez- Belfort
i usually stop when i say "i'm junk" when the d's turn to j's its a wrap.
Don’t have a very high tolerance either. usually 6 total drinks is all I can handle. Unless I eat a lot in between.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Drew really showing your colours here.
GTFO!
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Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
I drink every day but have a very low tolerence. usually 4 shots and 2 beers.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Jager?
I could do 5 of jager. it’s my weak spot.
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Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
tequila usually. whiskey the last few weeks.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
The Wiserhood,
Golf Clap
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Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
makers mark and corona
Til i am stumbling
2 week sig bet with Armando Baez
ufc 142
Goldmouth- rumble Baez- Belfort
If i have 1 i'll have 13, become the worlds greatest singer and a dancin machine.
Courtesy of Blake Shelton
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah man im in Buffalo wild wings every fight night.
You Sad? http://www.emooranges.ytmnd.com/
by OMGitsME on Jan 14, 2012 5:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yep thats where i go. I've started playing the texas hold um between fights and it's a fun time.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
I don't drink
I usually get a prime rib and call it good I’m outta the bar for around $20
"Every time I hear of this guy , I wonder how he was possible." - Joe DiMaggio
by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 14, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
too much mma? $$$
This statement is true only in the context of MONEY. Pay-per-views are 50 bucks a pop. Casuals will never drop half a c-note every weekend to watch fights. Hell even hardcore fans won’t.
UFC needs to find a different revenue stream. Eliminate the ppv model completely. Free fights every weekend. Profit through advertising and merchandise and gate.
Im telling you, if UFC had $5 HD online streams with some ads…. partner with facebook, youtube….. mma would overtake all sports in under a decade.
by makaveli158 on Jan 14, 2012 5:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Your right, most casual and hardcore fans won't get every fight for $45 or $55
But a true fan as I am, watches every one, with the explosion of ppv’s, my cousin and I have started alternating ppv’s, and the others are free, and mma wont overtake any sport
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by antone04 on Jan 14, 2012 5:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well good for you
what about everyone else? huge masses need to cough it up for our favorite sport to grow… as a huge fan, you SHOULD be concerned. the numbers will be smaller for this card, no reason for concern though I guess
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You cant really blame the UFC
Only solution is to tell all the fighters they can only fight 1-2 times a year. Only person who would probably be down for that is GSP hah.
by AzCombat on Jan 14, 2012 5:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
As a hardcore fan i love having mma every weekend
and i dont give two shits about the casuals so im happy!!! and in the end thats all i care about
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1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with ItalionStallion on Vitor-Fatty. VITOR
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you won't be happy if this strategy results in sure
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
results in setbacks
maybe you should start caring
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
im not worried about it
The sports not going to die by any means. worst that happens is it plateaus(which i think it will soon) and im fine with that its in a good place imo
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with ItalionStallion on Vitor-Fatty. VITOR
STOCKTON MOTHERFUCKERS
Lots of MMA is better.
If you can’t afford an MMA event then don’t buy it, I’d rather have the choice than not.
P4P TOP 5 1. Nick Diaz 2. Nate Diaz 3. Fedor 4. Overeem 5. Junie Browning … Also Nate AND Nick will both be champions of thier respective brackets. Dont Fuck With Mean Mug he will make you slob all over your most hated fighters knob 209 BITCHES!!!!!!
and if lots of people stop purchasing when were hoping for our sort to
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sport to grow
maybe you’ll care cause the affects could be very negative
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Real reason nobody cares.....LAME CARD
Yes great fighters but no personality. People like personalities. I am a diehard so of course I will watch, but I am not most people.
Maybe this card is in Brazil because they know it would get no love in the states
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by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 14, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
they built this card for brazil.
UFC loves to fill cards with local talent when they go outside the US.
by factory of sadness on Jan 14, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
UFC PPV cards need to be once a month.
Give the casuals time to get to know the fighters, give the hardcores time to actually digest the fight coverage and build-up. Better fights. Better lead time.
No one can follow the insane amount of MMA coverage coherently w/o missing big stuff.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 14, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions
what have you missed? I miss nothing.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't missed anything either, and I haven't even really been trying to follow everything leading up to this event.
P4P TOP 5 1. Nick Diaz 2. Nate Diaz 3. Fedor 4. Overeem 5. Junie Browning … Also Nate AND Nick will both be champions of thier respective brackets. Dont Fuck With Mean Mug he will make you slob all over your most hated fighters knob 209 BITCHES!!!!!!
by Cyclonejoker on Jan 14, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Well, for me, it's hard to keep up with regional, international, and mainstream leagues all at once.
Considering all the extra UFC events going on, I’m reading 30 websites a day and still missing plenty of fight results and news.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jan 15, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
i check this site once every 6 hours on weekdays
and i dont miss anything
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with ItalionStallion on Vitor-Fatty. VITOR
STOCKTON MOTHERFUCKERS
weekdays. I'm 10am, 12pm, 3pm, then randomly through the evening depending on what i'm doing.
If i’m baked i don’t close it in the evening.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
wow you spend a lot of time at your moms house cruz jackson.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
I got an iphone for christmas.
When i’m posting pics, I’m at my moms for sure.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
weekdays i check it in lunch n studdy hall
then when i get home and then after BJJ. i dont miss shit lol
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with ItalionStallion on Vitor-Fatty. VITOR
STOCKTON MOTHERFUCKERS
me neither. I may be late to getting something. But sometimes if it is a busy day and something gets to the next page off the front page i get fucked up and i'll miss the odd fight announcement
Like Sanchez – Ellenberger.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Do my sig justice to Itallionhorsedick.mpeg.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Im dissing both of you guys when AJ knocks out that cheater
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Lol at Vitor being the cheater
AJ’s the clown who came in to fight at LHW. Now that’s cheating.
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
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haha. thanks Dave.
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Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Also you want a new sig?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I like dishing out sigs of shame
What fights take your fancy? We both have Vitor so that’s out. I know you have Mendes but he’s a massive underdog (even though I personally think he’s going to give Jose a very tough fight at least) so I don’t know whether you want to go for that fight.
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Etim - Barboza
Stout – Tavares.
Mendes is beating Aldo though..
It’s snowing outside :(
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
I've got Barboza (like Terry but he always underperforms against top guys), Stout and Aldo (even though I'm not convinced that he's going to perform well)
And it’s been freezing cold over here today. Wouldn’t be surprised if we end up getting some snow this weekend. Standing around watching my mate play badly at football wasn’t much fun.
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
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by mate you mean friend.
But in my mind at first i read it as your mate, You know your partner.. Fag.
All joking aside.
Gonzaga – Oliveira?
I’m unsure about picking Tavares, But lets have a pending deal on Mendes-Aldo, Only if UNAM takes Etim in a sig bet match with me.
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Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Lol damn Canadians don't even know what a mate is
I’m not touching Gonzaga-Oliveira I’m already expecting to suffer in the money pool for picking JDS’ fat training partner.
I’ll take Aldo if unam does take Etim (and in all honesty he’d be mad to take that bet).
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Etim by guillotine is the only shot he has. and fuck that's a good shot to me.
I’m a HUGE Terry Etim fan. But Barboza beat a VERY well trained Njokuani. So i can’t pick against him. Spinning wheel kicks FTW!
And i mean, If Unam takes Etim or ANYONE ELSE MAD ENOUGH TO DO SO, then all bets are off. If not then Aldo-Mendes and you got yourself a deal.
E-Shake, Pending Unam’s response?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Etim's got good submissions but he fades as fights progress and has always underwhelmed (Sam Stout win aside) against good opposition
He’s going to be fighting in hostile territory against a far superior striker. Edson’s going to batter his body and legs with kicks and I expect him to take an easy decision. If Etim can’t get a quick submission then he’s screwed.
E-shake.
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
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be ready to remove the shit off your sig.
Especially about the pain train, Old news bruh. ;)
Prepare for the shit talking to begin.
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Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Haha well it turned out to be true
Called that shambles perfectly.
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
ViolentMike, DarksideDrew and Yan will all fail.
On 30th December the Pain Train shall disband.
Alistair is an animal, PPL who doubted him are mad.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
For the record, I'm in the 15% of the money pool who took Etim
He has a finishing rate in his fights of 83% so someone is getting finished. In his wins, 93% have been finishes. Of those finishes, 80% are by sub.
Etim has all the makings of a perfect upset.
It is a good upset pick, but i didn't grab it. got any other stats to share on the pool?
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
just looked on playground. 33% gonzaga and it was the hot bout. interesting.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Very real chance of Gabe winning
I’ve heard good things about Oliveira but picking flabby HWs with no cardio usually costs me.
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
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Ahem. Mark Russow... Ahem.
your welcome.
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Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
i wasn't impressed by the footage I watched of the new prospect.
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by DetroitDrew1980 on Jan 14, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
but he's never lost.
Come on former number 1 contender on a tear is an easy pick to me.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Here, I'll copy and paste it here
Versus odds
Aldo by KO (60%) versus Mendes by decision (64%)
Belfort by KO (70% versus Rumble by KO (64%)
Palhares by Sub (69%) versus Massenzio by Sub (46%) or decision (38%)
Silva by Sub (64%) versus Prater by Sub (55%)
Barboza by KO (67%) versus Etim by Sub (80%)
Tavares by Sub (69%) versus Stout by KO (53%)
Gonzaga by Sub (58%) versus Oliveira by KO (62%)
Alcantara by Sub (46%) or KO (42%) versus Omigawa by decision (54%)
Funch by KO (50%) versus Pyle by Sub (76%)
Carvalho by KO (46%) versus Arantes by KO (46%)
The reverse versus
Main Event
Aldo has only lost once by decision, so it’s hard to know if Mendes can win by decision.
Mendes has never lost so we don’t know what his chin is like.
Belfort losing by KO (33% chance) versus Rumble losing by KO (33%)
Palhares losing by Sub has never happened (0%) versus Massenzio losing by sub (40%)
Silva losing by Sub has never happened (0%) versus Prater losing by sub (30%)
Barboza has never lost versus Etim losing by KO has never happened (0%)
Tavares losing by KO (50%) versus Stout losing by Sub (33%)
Gonzaga losing by KO (83%) versus Oliveira who has never lost
Alcantara losing by decision (33%) versus Omigawa losing by Sub has never happened (0%)
Funch losing by Sub (50%) versus Pyle losing by KO (38%)
Carvalho losing by KO (50%) versus Arantes losing by KO has never happened (0%)
For the record my standing bet with David WS is only if your taking me up on the Etim - Barboza bet.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Roids>getting sick and almost dieing
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody bought into the Rumble PR
He was only in that state because he didn’t bother to keep his weight at a healthy level in the build-up to a fight, if you allow your weight to balloon up and fail to cut it in a way that doesn’t almost kill you then you’ve failed to do your job. The fact that he’s still allowed to fight after “almost dieing” is beyond ridiculous.
As for roids Vitor did screw up there though he’s certainly not the only 1 to use performance enhancers. He got caught and paid the price for it.
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
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look I know AJ fucked up
If he had done the proper steps to cutting wieght, he wouldnt be in this situation
But let me just say, Ive been on the AJ bandwagon for a long time now
not just before this fight
Win or lose, I still like him
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
You remember him losing to Brenden Conlin?
Ha i stole this joke from someone else who posted it. I liked it.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Lol
Rumble’s an exciting fighter but I don’t like his attitude or his behaviour outside of the cage. I expect him to get badly exposed tonight as well, even before the weight drama I had Vitor winning easily.
Money Pool Season 6 begins 30th December.
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I had Vitor beating Anderson, And i would if they were to fight again.
Say when Chael becomes champ and Anderson has “Fun” fights.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Chael needs to get past Munoz first
And Andy is simply too good for Vitor. He’ll find a new way to humiliate him if they ever rematch.
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Vitor would win in a rematch in my opinion.
And Chael has a tough test in front of him. Don’t forget Munoz lost to Okami so quick though. And SQUEAKED past Maia, Who stood up with him all fight. Do i have to say that Maia is BJJ BB?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Munoz's chin and striking defence is a weakness but he has brutal power
His wrestling was ineffective against Okami but he seems to have had more success applying his wrestling skills in his last few MMA fights. I still expect Chael to win but you can’t count out someone with Mark’s power or with his confidence and he’s not going to be easy to take down.
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Very true.
His power is good true.
But Chael takes everyone down he fights.
Okami, Marquardt and Silva. Munoz will be on his ass.
60-40 Chael. maybe even 70-30 i’d stretch to.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Cause vitor is the cheater right?
AJ shouldn’t win. But he definitely can. It’s competitive.
Who Shot ya?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldnt really consider vitor a cheater
But i do know he popped for roids a while back
I got AJ
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck all this bickerin beef
I can hear sweat tricklin down ya cheak,
your heartbeat sounds like sasquatch feet.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
What?
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
C'mon Son.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yea i like that song
Is that like a lyric in there?
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
haha.
SLow today or what?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Im lost...fuck it
Ill see you guys later
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 14, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
yes it is.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
ill consult with u
cant let him off easy
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with ItalionStallion on Vitor-Fatty. VITOR
STOCKTON MOTHERFUCKERS
Nope. Just remember to throw something about his heritage,
His shitty picking skill, something maybe about a horse, or a unicorn would work. How gay he is, How he loves everything fat, including rumble and fat chicks. Be creative and clever. And the picture has to be hard work to think of and summarize the Sig.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
I would be willing to go with out
and wait for a super card
"Every time I hear of this guy , I wonder how he was possible." - Joe DiMaggio
by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 14, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Getting back to author's point...
… Without time for exciting dramas (like the examples provided) to develop, MMA will have trouble attracting new fans. People might hear about, say, the Mir/ Lesnar storyline, and tune in because it has an atmosphere of consequence. People respond to stories, and if they can be drawn in once they might come back. If, however, the rush of names and faces at events each week streak by, they won’t even get a chance to grow intrigued.
Mass commercialization does suck for the hardcores.
But those months that we go weeks with nothing but unleashed to watch are agonizing. Though they are a rarity these days.
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by butsecks on Jan 14, 2012 5:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wish PPV’s were once a month just because of the price. Now I am buying this one cause Aldo is my favorite fighter plus I’m still interested in what Johnson vs Belfort fight brings. Outside of that Barboza and Etim should be a “barnburner”. You also have Paul Harris in action who has weird shit going on in his fights.
"All hail the Flyers" Jim Jackson.
Also
u guys wouldnt pay money to see a human foot ripped off? cause ur gonna see it tonight
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with ItalionStallion on Vitor-Fatty. VITOR
STOCKTON MOTHERFUCKERS
lol.
I’ll take an arm, or a knee as well. Just watched his ADCC fight with David Avellan or some shit. I don’t understand what happened. He couldn’t understand that tthe guy tapped. Then they reset them in the heel hook spot. he rolls and taps again. Fuckin idiot officials.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
that wasnt even Palhares' fault
according to the rules if someone has a deep sub and it goes out of bounds the match starts standing and the guy trying to get the sub gets 2 points. instead the ref puts the poor dude back into that death grip lolll
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with ItalionStallion on Vitor-Fatty. VITOR
STOCKTON MOTHERFUCKERS
Oh i know.
It was out of bounds WAY too long for them to call it out. The Dude tapped. Period. Out or not.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
very true
If i was Allen i wouldnt have let them place me back in that leg lock. i wud have yelled and argued until i got DQ’ed or it started standing up. id prefer to walk away DQ’ed then to hobble off honorably subbed lol
Pro Sig record:10-5
1 Month sig bet with 10th Degree Whitebelt that DJ does NOT win the FLW tournament
Sig bet with KaleJohnCox on Alves-Kamp. ALVES
Sig bet with ItalionStallion on Vitor-Fatty. VITOR
STOCKTON MOTHERFUCKERS
but he was already subbed is my point.
Out or not, Shouldn’t have been replaced. Bitch tapped. Then got hurt due to fucking idiot ref’s.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
I enjoy having fights every weekend, but...
The fights often seem to lack the feel of a big fight. Waiting a few weeks to see a fight definitely builds the hype and excitement. Not to mention it gives the UFC PR machine time to work its magic.
by factory of sadness on Jan 14, 2012 5:46 PM EST reply actions
I think the every weekend assertion is a bit ridiculous
After this fight we have 2 free cards will you complain about those two because they are happening damn near every weekend?
I’m not resting until I’m officially Anderson Silva status.- Jon "Bones" Jones
If mma wants to be a real sport they need 3 events a month
209stk is the smartest poster on mania i will never doubt him or anyone from stockton ever again them boys out there are BEASTS
….nick and nate diaz will b champs this year and all the haters can elat a bloody vag…ultimatehuggingchamp is the biggest dumbfuck around and licks the sweat of my balls….STOCKTON 209…..y u mad 4 suckas!
by wooly shambler on Jan 14, 2012 5:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
1 PPV 1 Fox, 2 On Fuel/FX
That’s Mainstream.
They just need to make more money from the Fox deal and once that starts delivering, They’ll cut back on PPV’s, we’re just in that limbo shitty spot. They need the PPV money still
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
To me there can never be “too much” MMA, I’ll happily watch it every week if something decent is on. The problem is too many and too expensive PPV’s, the last one was just two weeks ago. They’re continually diluting these numbered PPV cards even more, and this event tonight is a prime example. It’s simply not worthy of the pricetag. It’s been a trend for some time now, way too many PPV’s with too few quality fights on them. I’d say at most one PPV per month, preferably fewer than that, and stack up as many free cards between them as you’d like. This is simply not viable for most consumers.
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Overkill
The UFC are making the same mistakes as boxing and pro wrestling, they’re putting on too many shows. If you put on too many PPVs then they’re going to be watered down because no matter how big your roster is you’re never going to have the amount of top talent to stack the show, plus you don’t have enough time to promote the show and create hype for the matches. Diluting the product through overkill is something that has wrecked the ratings and buyrates for pro wrestling PPVs as nobody wants to watch the same poorly promoted rematches at 3 PPVs because Vince McMahon’s too greedy to stick to the 1 PPV a month model and now the UFC are doing the equivalent with 1 meaningful fight shows as they aim to put on a show a week. Quality is better than quantity but greedy promoters don’t seem to understand this and all they’re doing is turning off their fanbase.
It wouldn’t be so bad if all of these shows were on free TV but when the majority on PPV it’s just not feasible for people to regularly order shows. I know for a fact that I wouldn’t order bi-monthly PPVs for £15 (the usual price for PPVs in the UK) nevermind the $60 that you lot have to pay. Hardcore fans or not it’s becoming unrealistic for the dedicated fanbase to order every PPV and at this point the only ones who seem to be happy at the regularity of these shows are the people who stream them for free anyway.
Even for me and other British fans who get the events as part of a subscription TV package it’s getting difficult to keep track of events and take the time to watch all of them. Having them pushed an hour back makes it that more inconvenient to watch them live.
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Most are free shows.
There are nine UFC events (not counting TUF) in the next 12 weeks. 4 are PPVs, 1 is a Fox event, 2 FX and 2 Fuel.
The UFC is certainly running more free shows than in the past, but I hope the rest of the year sees PPVS once a month. It looks like March-May have only one PPV a month…keep it that way.
like he doesn't make a good point
I’m glad all you ignorant meatheads love fighting, but everything he said makes sense when considering everyone BUT yourselves… hard to think passed yourselves enough to actually understand the article
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
people who aren't passionate fight fans will be less likely to order these cards
“I’m a passionate fight fan, I love fighting. wtf is this guy talking about? I love fighting, what is the point of this article?”
my head is going to explode…
but it’s worth it to read the articles (which are obviously stupid)
by Hollywoodsco on Jan 14, 2012 6:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
$60??
I pay $44.95 for PPVs.
Truth is that the UFC should not run more than one PPV every four weeks. That said, there are a ton of free shows coming up and I have to admit that I enjoy them, but am nowhere near as excited as when they were less often.
HD bitch.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
way too many to buy them all
illegal streams..got to…on top of that, no bar around here is allowed to show a PPV anymore
They aren't allowed how come?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
well its too expensive fot them to get a license to show it
so none of them do…used to be they could show every one, but now its too expensive to get the bar license
wow really?
Small town or what? Maybe they should spend more time promoting and solidifying the bar as a legitimate sports bar then just trying to get by and taking off the top. I’ve seen shitholes here in town play the fights and that’s due to them being ran properly.
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Go into promotion with a more legit lounge that will.
Not even BP’s Lounges?
"i think jesse just internet slapped his internet girlfriend" - RickDoobs Gold
Sig Bet Record:
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Frankie over Gray)
1 Loss - GrappleFan(Lil Nog over Tito)
1 Win - ItalianStallion54(Nate over Donald)
by Cruz Jackson on Jan 14, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
“They’ll just see a small, compact fighter against another small, but speedy fighter but the speedy guy is champion, so at least we know he’s kind of a big deal.”
this sounds like every other post about lightweight fighters.
if it’s Aldo vs Mendes I’d rather see that than Rashad Evans vs Tito F’ING Ortiz.
or Wand vs Franklin at catchweight.
name fights don’t make them any better. if anything, they’re big on name, and sometimes short on meaning or relevance.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Jan 14, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions
yah because the big names are getting old
So hardcore fans understand they aren’t what they used to be but casual just think WOW !!! Wandy or Tito or Franklin ! Awesome…….. face palm
"Every time I hear of this guy , I wonder how he was possible." - Joe DiMaggio
by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 14, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
There are a lot of cards
But this cards actually awesome big names or not
by theworldismine on Jan 14, 2012 7:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Agreed
I agree with the article. I’ve been a fan of UFC since day 1, but I have gone from not being as exited about an event to not even caring about some of these. In fact I probably won’t even download this event from the pirate bay. They are moving far to fast. You have to allow people to thirst a little.
Yah
Like let us hang for a little bit and then BAM hit us with a stacked card
"Every time I hear of this guy , I wonder how he was possible." - Joe DiMaggio
by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 14, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad i'm getting this card for free on x-box live, hopefully it works this time.
I can’t get enough mma, i’d watch it every night if it was on. I know it’s expensive for most people but i’ll never complain about their being too many events.
by MMA Boss on Jan 14, 2012 7:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
"Too much MMA" is a weak argument
The poster that mentioned needing a revised revenue model may be on to something, but the idea that a sport can’t handle multiple monthly events is a shaky argument. It is true that other sports have off-seasons, but boxing essentially has weekly events, and has for years. Are they all $50 PPVs? No, but that goes back to the revenue model argument.
I’ll take MMA every weekend.
One more thing...
…while “excitement and buzz” matter, it’s about building a sustainable sport with credibility, not “hyping events.” Yes, PPV numbers are decreasing, but again—>new revenue models.
It is degrading to the average MMA fan to suggest that all events need to be “hyped.” Not all events are going to blow your mind. It’s a sport.
true
but I do wish once a year they would do a monster stacked card from top to bottom
"Every time I hear of this guy , I wonder how he was possible." - Joe DiMaggio
by randallhumpfreeze on Jan 14, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions

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