UFC 141: Nate Diaz rolls in 'style' with big win over Donald Cerrone in Las Vegas
by Jason Probst on Jan 1, 2012 2:00 PM EST
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Nate Diaz's performance Friday night (Dec. 30, 2011) at UFC 141 from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, was a reminder of the reason(s) the Diaz brothers look often-beatable on paper, yet consistently deliver above expectations.
I'm firmly in the camp that while both of them can be decisioned, it's going to take one hell of a fighter to make either of them openly admit they flat-out lost.
And while Diaz' three-round, record-setting battering of Donald Cerrone doesn't erase the memories of fights he's lost because of better wrestlers, it's a reminder of how vexing and paralyzing the "Stockton Style" really is. I won't be surprised if Diaz is decisioned by the elite grapplers at lightweight, but even in the five UFC fights he's dropped -- all via decision -- a similar template was followed in three.
Nate was simply held down by Joe Stevenson, Clay Guida and Dong Hyun Kim.
Gray Maynard refused to even go the ground, opting to risk a razor-thin stand up match with little meaningful action. Rory MacDonald is the only guy who has risked himself enough to open up against Diaz. It speaks volumes about how stifling his game is that he can lose fights against this level of competition, while taking relatively little damage.
Simply put, along with brother Nick, the Diaz style of high-volume boxing and constant, accurate punching throws virtually every opponent into a kind of operational chaos.
Foes become transfixed, unable to get untracked, resembling a man trying to get out of a phone booth while being punched in the face. You know what a guy can do going into a bout against a Diaz, yet he is seemingly underwater and getting shots bounced off his head and midsection.
It will be fascinating to see how the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) matches Nate next. Ideally, someone willing to strike -- say, the victor of Anthony Pettis vs. Joe Lauzon -- would make for a can't-miss match up.
Bring it.
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Exactly, I said Diaz would smash Cowboy...and I was right. Most people on here were saying he didn't have a chance. They got real quiet after the fight, hehe
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING is FUCKING RETARDED
i got mind control on you..you say "shut the fuck up"..i be quiet..you leave...i be talking again!
He got the win. Good job. Shut the haters up for 15 mins..but we’re here lurking..And believe we’ll be right here when he loses again! bet that! Cowboy fought like an asshole…no gameplan, hesistant on the strikes, no head movement. Fucker cost me money!
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 1, 2012 2:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cerrone was a meathead that night, not a fighter
Cerrone’s pride got in the way. There is no way he could box with Diaz, they are excellent at that. Get them on their backs and wrestle with them and it is a different story. This is MMA, not boxing. Anything goes in this so for those that say wrestling is gay, I say boxing is gay. I’d rather see a technical fight with some thought as opposed to two meatheads swinging for the fences. I bet those that love boxing were fans of Houston Alexander and Matt Riddle.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Get them on their backs and wrestle with them?
They’re better at BJJ than boxing, you know that right?
Duh
I’ve seen most of Nate’s fight, even before he was in the UFC. He has wicked skill. But good wrestlers subdued that aspect of his game and there is no way Nick could keep up with GSP. No way. Guida did a great job at nullifying Nate’s jits, and Bendo stuffed Guida. I don’t think he can beat a good wrestler.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say a wrassler's kryptonite is a 5 round fight
Unless it’s a guy like Jones who finishes….or Brock
Agree
There is only one exception to your 5 rd wrestler who will never gas.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot him - 2 guys then
Edgar and GSP. I don’t think Edgar will beat Bendo and if he does, I can’t see him beating Nate. But if Bendo wins, I can see Ben beating Nate.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
How can u NOT be a fan of Houston Alexander?
That dude is VIOLENT!!
by mthom on Jan 1, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was extremely violent against Kimbo.
So violent in fact, they cut him from the UFC immediately following the end of that fight.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
That was a weird fight and they only fight that has ever left me thinking, "fixed!"
No other way around it, I still believe that it was fixed!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
*the, not they
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Especially to his son!!
I smoke two joints in the morning
I smoke two joints at night
I smoke two joints in the afternoon
It makes me feel alright
by wyldeman99 on Jan 1, 2012 7:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol Just bc we didn't comment on it, doesn't mean we didn't get it.
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
Fans get sand in their vags over personality
People judge Diaz on his “temper and attitude problems” way too much and just try to dismiss his skill set and gameness. Personally I just assume these dudes got slammed or dogged a lot in school by “thugs” or “wigga’s” and can’t let it go. Like they feel a need to project their own past short comings towards a fighter they don’t know but reminds them of the mean mugging guys in the cafeteria lunch line.
Keyboard warriors keep typing and the Diaz brothers Keep fighting.
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What a dumb post!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! But now Tito is closing in! lol Maybe not, but I'm so fn happy that he beat Bader! The excuses were really getting to me, but when he wins, we don't hear about them.
why?
He gets one win over a relevant opponent in the division & it warrants a title match? Sure he’s got Back to back wins, but they’re right after back to back losses & got run out of a higher division. I don’t like him or his fucking brother, but you’re obviously a fan. Whatt makes you think this ONE win warrants him jumping the line?
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 1, 2012 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cuz there’s no one really knocking on the door for a title shot, Nate has paid his dues, and then some, and just beat the hottest guy in LW…
Not a fan, but if you weren’t impressed with that stomping of the hottest guy at LW, I don’t know who is.
Who else deserves a shot before Nate right not? Certainly not Miller or Guillard, and GIlbert isn’t here, and Maynard has to wait his turn…
Nate is ahead of all of those guys…
The guy is 3W - 3L in his last 6 LW fights
A win against Cerrone means a title shot? His previous win was against a declining Gomi who lost against Guida before he fought Diaz. C’mon, get realistic if you think he deserves a title shot. One more fight, and if he wins that, give him a title fight. Make him a fight against a wrestler in his next fight and you will surely see another loss.
Cerrone was just a meathead as he thought he could outbox Diaz. Dumb mistake.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Who gets the title shot then bum licker?
Who’s next? The champ can’t just sit on his ass all day. Gotta make the next title shot, got make a decision.
Ummmm, the last time I checked the CHAMP is fighting Bendo
Pretty sure that is who is in line. Who do you think you are, mini Danass? I’ll give you credit for the last part.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
So what? That fight is soon. Gotta have the next contender ready. The only option here is Miller / Guillard. And if Guillard wins, you would be putting someone in who has lost to Nate. How about that.
I agree that neither of those 2 should be considered
But that is not up to me. I agree that Nate should be considered as I stated previously, but he needs one more fight. I’m not too excited about the Gomi win as Gomi was already on a downward trajectory. Cerrone was a meathead and he deserves to go on the undercards until he can get his ego in check. Nate is a better fighter than Donald because he still controls his ego.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
you're a fighter
why don’t you step up to the plate. Just call out the champ like everyone else is doing.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I love you
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
and that is why I love you
((_)====D SHHWWWIIINNNGGGGG!!!
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
It’s funny how you dump your fighters when they lose. It goes to show what sort of fan you are. You favored Cerrone heavily and completely underestimated Nate at the same time.
Instead of dumping your fighter why not admit Nate was the better man and came in and enforced his gamplan and dictated the fight from the get go. Not that Cerrone didn’t fight his gameplan… You’re a joke kid
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Jan 1, 2012 3:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
are you retarded?
Why don’t you read some of my replies asswipe. I admitted that Nate was by far better – how could anyone argue that? Cerrone admitted that he didn’t follow his plan otherwise Jackson wouldn’t have been so animated.
Where did I dump Cerrone as a fan? You need a life. And quit calling me kid you jackass. Ok CHILD???
You are the biggest hypocrite on this website by far. You shoot out dumbass comments to get a rise out of people. You are a Vera fan for fucks sake!! If that doesn’t speak volumes, then I don’t know what does.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t drop my fighters in it like an angry little emo kid when they lose, like you. He couldn’t follow his gameplan because Nate forced his fight, why is that hard to admit?
Instead, you want Cerrone to fight on the prelims so what we don’t have to see him. You don’t want to see him succeed or even make a living in the sport. You are a disgrace kid, where’s you loyalty kid?
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Jan 1, 2012 3:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what?
what did you say?
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Dan's mansion
Here’s where he drops all his winnings from his fight bets
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
One of his women
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting.
I just bought a 10 pack of that same underwear. Hot.
Long time reader.
First time poster.
Kinda looks like London
but there’s no dope sick junkies laying up against the buildings
Long time reader.
First time poster.
And Dan and his RV
Just heading off to one of his rave’s that they host in his name
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Everybody a Diaz beats these days is a a fight "already on a downward trajectory"
GTFO of here with that shit
Gomi isn't on a downward trend?
I guess 3 losses in his last 4 fights is level? Or 5 losses in his last 8? I consider that a downward trajectory but then again, I deal in stats all week long. Kenny and Guida beat Gomi so what is incorrect in my original statement?
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
The same thing was said to downplay Nick's powerful performance
BJ is on his way out, he’s no good… yadda yadda
I agree, Pettis/J-Lau winner would be a good fit.
Also Siver (yes I know he came off a Loss but had like 5/6 in a row before that) or maybe Sam Stout would be a great fight. Maybe Barbosa would really test Nate’s boxing with his crazy Muai Thai. That’d be a sick fight!
losers make excuses, winners make it happen...
by Wingblade on Jan 1, 2012 2:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How long do you expect the champ to sit? The champ would have to be out for like 6 months if we did it that way.
Give Nate the next shot, and let Miller / Guillard determine the next one.
Don't forget about Maynard.
He still has 1 more coming. The true rubber match
Long time reader.
First time poster.
True but Maynard was finished convincingly. He needs a good two or three fights to get another title shot against Frankie…
have him fight Guida
fuck Maynard, he’s boring as fuck. Only time he is exciting is when you match him up against Edgar.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
I somewhat agree with him being finished convincingly.
However, if the ref stopped the fight in the first round (Edgar/Maynard 2) when Maynard was bombing on Edgar most would say that Maynard finished Edgar convincingly. It’s all relative.
Maynard vs Penn?
Long time reader.
First time poster.
Penn is irrelevant
and potentially retired. I say he comes back for one more fight and if he loses, him and Matt will farm together.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Penn will never be irrelevant.
He still has 145 and 135 to try out. If Aldo gets killed in a random veterinarian overcoat production plant then BJ will be a force.
Since when did Matt Serra know how to farm? I thought he was an esthetician.
Long time reader.
First time poster.
He’s talking about Matt hueghs
by zesotheclown on Jan 1, 2012 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Umm what? You haven’t heard of Matt hueghs? Ufc hall of famer? Known as one of if not the best welterweight ever? Is this a joke?
by zesotheclown on Jan 1, 2012 6:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maynard needs to win 3-4 fights again before he gets a fourth fight
And nobody wants to see it anyway
I don't want to see it either.
But the score won’t be settled until it happens. The problem is that this fight would not be enough to carry a PPV card. They would need a 2nd title fight to even stand a chance of breaking 250,000 buys.
Long time reader.
First time poster.
If Nate gets the next shot then Pettis would be after
I think Pettis goes first, unless those two fight
Yes please!!
Hell ill talk about fucking UFC 53 or any other card. Every fucking post has been different ways of saying Overeem beat Brock and is fighting JDS, Brock retired and had a good career, Nick Diaz beat Cerrone….whats next. There literally been like 10 different post about each one of those subjects. How about yall announce this fucking Gray Maynard/ Clay Guida match up thats been brewing the past 2 weeks. Now I see why you hate whit people so much Starr
I have issued my statement. If Chael wins against Silva, im officially the coolest guy on Mania and have the coolest dvd collection. If he loses.....then I shall leave Mania for good....
Before this fight did you think anyone in the division would beat Cerrone up like that? Most strikes recorded in a 3 round fight, was there anyone capable of putting that sort of beating on Cerrone? There wasn’t, Nate earned his shot. He went one step further in not only getting the win, but beating the cowboy out of Cerrone.
Bobby Southworth
by danago on Jan 1, 2012 2:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
True
It’s alot more impressive than dogging a guy out for three rounds in dominate fashion than winning by flash Ko. See Gegard Mousasi VS Keith Jardine. Penn VS Edgar 2, Diaz VS Penn
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by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 1, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
more impressive to*
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. Jander Yenn via TKO(Punches) at 0:54 of RD 1!
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 1, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Nate should get the next shot
But I won’t disagree that Lauzon/Pettis are right up there too…unfortunately they fight on the same night as the champ so a decision must be made…
I have a question why is everyone talking about giving nate a title shot now if not the champ will sit out for 6 months? I though bendo wasS fighting for the title did I miss something? But all that aside I’d like to see nate fight for the title I think we are owed as fans since all we had was eadgar and maynard fight for the title
by zesotheclown on Jan 1, 2012 4:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its pretty obvious whats going to happen imo
Hes fighting the Pettis-Lauzon winner for a title shot. All the other big contendors are coming off loses so it makes sense
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Sig bet with Unambig on Sanchez-Ellenberger. SANCHEZ
Bring ABB back to Mania
Stockton Motherfuckers
So what does Edgard do for 4 months?
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. Jander Yenn via TKO(Punches) at 0:54 of RD 1!
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 1, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
That’s the whole point. The champ just sit around while you pansy fucks build a perfect contender that will never be. You make the fights that you can at the given time.
Why you getting all mad at us?
We don’t make the matches.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not the point though. Who should get the next title shot has nothing to do with if we make the matches, it’s just a quick process. You should be able to handle the whole concept of the champ is supposed to fight every so often POV.
I'm pretty sure that there was a plan in place before the Nate/Donald tilt
It’s not like TUF where they look at pictures of the fighters and ask people who should fight who. They had scenarios for both of them. I’m sure this will all come to light in the near future.
Danass is still in some Thailand tranny shop getting his jollies for the new year so maybe by mid-week, there will be an announcement.
Nick Diaz - Undisputed 2011 No-show Champion
by hairybumcrack on Jan 1, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
maybe Daba is hoping Bendo and Pettis both win its easy then!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Dana
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
i'd actually prefer calling him Daba.
It’d be great if we could have an online petition to try to convince Helwani to call him Daba in all future convos & broadcasts. It sounds tougher than dana anyways.. I knew a Dana & she was a big titted Irish chick with red dreadlocks. She’s what I think of when I hear the name…not that bald headed fuck.
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
by Fat Daddy Doobs on Jan 1, 2012 4:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea I can see Pettis getting snuck in there. But Nate IMO, is probably a better sell, has more time with the company, and why wouldn’t you want Nate to get in there, especially considering Nick is up there too.
Nate is more sexy to UFC than Pettis right now IMO…
I doubt it would happen, but I was thinking they should have Pettis jump over to Strikeforce to figth Gil. A few positives could come out of it for all involved. They don’t really have anyone to match up with Melendez and Pettis would be marketable. (They did say they had a few things they used to entice Showtime. Perhaps that means a few UFC guys moving over.) It would benefit Zuffa in that way. Potentially Gilbert if he wins, and Pettis, if he agreed to do it, would get a title shot he had earned before the draw debacle. Even though it would involve leaving the UFC temporarily, winning a championship belt in another org’ would help his promotability.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Jan 1, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
he shud get Melendez inbetween
but thats not happening
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Bring ABB back to Mania
Stockton Motherfuckers
hmm I guess
he#s due a step up in competition though and Nate is definitely a big step up for him, would be another classic aswell
Slappin da Bass mon.
by Rampagelangford on Jan 1, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ur willing to scrap his fight with Etim though?
Barboza
NOVA UNIAO
Tomas Taverin Def. Jander Yenn via TKO(Punches) at 0:54 of RD 1!
by CharactersAnalysis on Jan 1, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
oh hell no
forget I said anything haha! I completely forgot about that fight!
Slappin da Bass mon.
by Rampagelangford on Jan 1, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Njokuani beat Barboza
Anthony gets ripped off a lot. No way did he lose to Castillo, I need the fight metric on that shit.
I thought Pearson shouldve got the nod too to be fair against Barboza
Slappin da Bass mon.
by Rampagelangford on Jan 1, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
well its not a W on his record..
it should be but yeah
Slappin da Bass mon.
by Rampagelangford on Jan 1, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
all u mother fuckers stfu nate lw champ late 2012
STOCKTON WHAT! !!!!
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Jan 1, 2012 3:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
ey up look who it is!
Slappin da Bass mon.
by Rampagelangford on Jan 1, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Give him g sot after he subs gomi and let George show him some real bjj
Beat cheeks
by wooly shambler on Jan 1, 2012 3:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
wooly ready for ur sig
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Jan 1, 2012 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know what I gotta give credit where it’s due, Nate backed up his talk in the cage big time and got the biggest win of his career. Cowboy on the other hand put on an embarrasing and career low performance that basically made me wonder if he had even trained for the fight.
Seriously watching UFC 141 was like watching a replay of UFC RIO with alot of guys that I respect crapping the bed and putting on pathetic showings that were up there with their worst of their careers. Alot of guys stole money that show and I hope for their sake that they come back stronger because I lost alot of respect for alot of guys that night.
"@bigfootsilva, I want to tell you a joke so funny it will make your head grow. It goes like this..Oh wait, I see you have already heard it." -Chael Sonnen
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