UFC 141 results: Reflecting on Brock Lesnar's short MMA career
It was a grim tableau. Slumped against the cage after absorbing a frightful assault to the body, Brock Lesnar wore the dejected look of a fighter done with the sport. Imagine realizing your career in a given vocation was obviously something you suddenly no longer wanted to pursue, with the impetus for that decision being a public beating like the one Alistair Overeem delivered at UFC 141 this past Fri., Dec. 30, 2011, in Las Vegas. It was one of the most poignant moments you'll see, yet painfully public at the same time.
His post-fight retirement announcement wasn't a surprise. In moments of adversity, you find out what a fighter is about, and Lesnar handled his interview with Joe Rogan very well.
Brevity goes a long way when making an announcement that will change the short-term landscape of the sport; he's done with MMA, and he did one hell of a lot to bump the game up to the next level in a mere eight fights, five of which were against guys who were former or current champions. He could have ranted about how he just got caught, how he wanted a rematch, and all the expected posturings that come straight from the "Beaten Fighter Playbook."
Those are the easy sells and juicy rationalizations. But Lesnar took his medicine like a man and reminded us that life goes on outside the game, with a quality precisely defined by how much you put into it. Family is key to him and MMA simply isn't worth the investment, especially considering his diverticulitis, which has been a recurring issue in the past two years.
His short, frank speech was a graceful exit given the tumultuous emotions he must have been feeling, and went a long way toward showing his real side, that of a family man who simultaneously accepted the need, at times, to play the heel, something he'd become proficient at during his pro wrestling days. He was certainly adept at it, sometimes pushing the envelope to strange places where the envelope seemingly ended, and unclassifiable viewer weirdness ensued.
His inimitable post-fight meltdown after battering Frank Mir into submission at UFC 100 was a Holy Trifecta of sorts, as he simultaneously offended the guy he'd just smashed, the promotion he smashed him in and a major sponsor (Bud Light) for the event he smashed him at.
In the history of the sport, there may have been no equivalent moment where a guy had the audience so ready to eat from the palm of his hand, willingly accepting him as the newly crowned champ. But Lesnar delivered a gleeful verbal smack to the face instead.
I always got the feeling that Lesnar was never fully comfortable with MMA, and was more of an athlete-as-fighter. His obvious deficits in the stand-up phase in fights against Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez and Overeem could overshadow the rest of his legacy, however brief. Given time to develop along the prescribed trajectory of a heavyweight prospect, he could have acquired the kind of experience and repetitive conditioning necessary to stand and deal with the harsh realities of the sport, especially stark ones when you're a heavyweight, where one-shot swings of momentum are the rule instead of the exception. It's a line of work that requires unshaking commitment, with brutal truths visited upon even the best of those who survive the numerous slips on their journey up the mountain.
In 1999, back during my boxing days, I interviewed Michael Grant, a rising contender who tossed off a verbal nugget I've kept with me over the years. Grant, a wonderfully gifted athlete, had the blend of looks and personality that made him an HBO darling. He could play piano and excelled in three sports yet wasn't fully transfixed with the idea of becoming a heavyweight champion.
"I see people like Evander Holyfield who have been in the sport for 25 years, and that's all they are," Grant said. "I want to be in boxing, but not ‘of' boxing."
Contrast that to Marvin Hagler, who said "When they cut open my head, they're going to find a big boxing glove. That's all I am."
Grant would go on to be summarily starched by Lennox Lewis in his brief and only title shot, while Hagler reigned as one of the greatest champions of his, or anyone else's, era.
I've never forgotten that, because Grant's reluctance to go all-in on pursuing a fight career was ultimately a huge factor in his eventual demise. And any time I hear a fighter talking retirement, it's a sign that he's probably closer to it than he thinks, for reasons he may not yet understand but will become painfully apparent in short order.
Lesnar's career trajectory denied him the chance to develop the experience against lower-level competition that might have served him well, but the flip side of that is he came along exactly when the UFC had a void he could fill like no one else.
Given the hand as it lays now, an exit from the sport is his best move. If nothing else, he leaves on his own terms.
That's a victory in itself.
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agree with the athlete part
Brock was never a natural fighter you could tell that but what he did in the sport in such a short space of time was nothing short of extraordinary.Good luck in whatever he chooses to do next.Oh and expect idiot19 and Mythbuster in soon to spread a load of shit!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Pro wrestling fans are very happy right now along with some mma fans as well obviously for different reasons
Soon we will see the former “ufc heavyweight champion” throwing people threw tables,jumping off of ladders and reciting horrible pre-rehearsed interviews..I’m sure my nephew will tell me all about it
"Exited the cage victorious on friday night. Celebrated the win on saturday night. Rested on sunday. Preparation for my next fight begins monday."-letter19
by letter19 on Jan 1, 2012 8:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
unless the UFC releases him,
he won’t be dkoing a damn thing in the WWE. why do people have such a hard time understanding how a contract works? remember when randy “retired” and thought it meant that he could go do whatever he wanted? dana can’t make you fight in a cage, but he can sure as hell keep you from doing it anywhere else.
i cant see Dana doing it to Brock though
he will release him.A few million plus ppv helps.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
right.
dana is going to tell brock “thanks for making me millions of dollars, now please go do it for someone else”?
wrong.
dana’s smarter than that. he’ll find a way to get a cut of it.
Long time reader.
First time poster.
And I don't consider wwe and UFC competitors -
so I don’t think danahasanything to lose. Possibly a chance to pick up wwe fans.
or a chance to allow brock out of his contract for a fee.
the fee being a percentage of his earnings in a WWE event. brock got a cut of the UFC PPV, Dana will take a cut of the WWE PPV.
Long time reader.
First time poster.
hello everyone.
I watched the weigh ins, Countdown and a few interviews with no issues.
Bad start for sure. But the app has promise. Nobody paid a cent….the tix they had were all free. So no harm done, this time. Fotobuch
by zackmiller091 on Mar 25, 2012 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
randy could do whatever he wanted to do
As long as it wasn’t fighting for another MMA promotion.
"Exited the cage victorious on friday night. Celebrated the win on saturday night. Rested on sunday. Preparation for my next fight begins monday."-letter19
by letter19 on Jan 1, 2012 8:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
and brock can't go to the WWE. dana has said it many times
but please, feel free to argue.
I'm not arguing
But I know brock signed a contract with the wwe recently and promoted the video game with his face on the cover
"Exited the cage victorious on friday night. Celebrated the win on saturday night. Rested on sunday. Preparation for my next fight begins monday."-letter19
by letter19 on Jan 1, 2012 8:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
it's a legacy contract
it means if dana releases him, then he can’t wrestle anywhere but the WWE. IF.
back to my original statement brock will be back in the wwe soon
"Exited the cage victorious on friday night. Celebrated the win on saturday night. Rested on sunday. Preparation for my next fight begins monday."-letter19
by letter19 on Jan 1, 2012 9:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
fighting is not what happens in WWE
this is a gray area, but I wouldnt be surprised if he is available to perform in WWE relatively soon
Odd thing happened today... had to re-sgn up for MMAMania. No clue why!
by PHISH_NATION on Jan 1, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
don't wory
I ll pray to win my favorate hero every time. wish you also best of luck. Suchmaschinenoptimierung
by zackmiller091 on Mar 25, 2012 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
whatever people say about brock
he played a big part in making more people watch ufc and mma in total in a short span of time. love him or hate him, he made the sport that we all love so much just a little bit bigger and we gotta thank him for that.
no. no he didn't.
poeple watch HIS cards, not ALL cards. that’s why the UFC only does 300,000 buys on non-brock cards. he brought his own fans and they will leave with him.
Yip
I agree…I actually think the sport has hit a level ground it doesnt actually seem to be growing in terms of finding new fans!
Yes it’s widening it’s general availability to the likes of brazil but the numbers don’t reflect that.
My mates here in the uk were getting into it around 3/4 years ago but due to it being difficult to access the just stopped! I think it’s went as far as its going to go, and in honesty Brock was about the best chance they had at taking it to the next level on that stage!! Anderson jj etc are far and away better fighters but if people don’t know who they are…they just don’t care!
by the real mo on Jan 1, 2012 8:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
can i ask you a couple of queations mo?
Was the cain v/jds fight screened in the uk and if it was what channel was it on?
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
yes it was screened in the uk. it was on the espn channel.
espn is about a 10er a month and shows all ufc events, atm
Kenny Florian is 0-3 in title fights. I am 0-0 in title fights. MMA maths mean I'm better than Florian!
by tap or snap bons on Jan 1, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
cheers i know the ppvs are on espn wernt sure about the fox fights
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
?
Jds v Cain was not on espn!!
Because it was the first fox event, it’s was on prime time sports and it was only on for an hour
by the real mo on Jan 1, 2012 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thanks mo
is fox 2 gonna be on there as well? Thats a free channel isnt it?
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
?
I’m not sure tbh…it was either prime time or premier sports but u have to subscribe to them both. It was freeview for an hour that night tho for that fight
by the real mo on Jan 1, 2012 2:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I couldn't watch it on ESPN either.
Nunes DEC, Riddle KO 2, Volkmann SUB 3, DHK DEC, Castillo Sub 2, Pearson DEC, Pham KO 2, Gustaffson KO 3, Fitch DEC, Cerrone DEC, Brock TKO 2
Said it before and I’ll say it againg! They need to leave the HEAVYWEIGHTS alone. Once you’re past that 206 lb mark you are a HEAVYWEIGHT PERIOD!!! and if you are 500 lbs you are a HEAVYWEIGHT! Making the heavyweights come down to 265 is not right! Leave them alone. It’s not fair to guys like Lesnar and even Bobby Lashley who really are heavyweights! Damn Dana, that’s the only thing I disagree with MMA about, otherwise the rules fit! Wayne Arthur, knower of all (just kidding)
wwe
A lot of people assume he wants to run back to wwe. I do not know if I believe that. I believe he may want to one day. I think that with the hard times he has had with his illness over the last two years and then training or doing the ultimate fighter as soon as he is feeling ok, has taken away the ability to do things with his family he wants. He always his talking about being a family man and spending time with wife and kids. I think that is what he wants. Now maybe if the wwe would offer him a light schedule of once every couple of weeks or months, then he might jump straight to the wwe. But I think he just wants some quality family time.
I have never been a real I want Brock to win fan but I did want to watch and see what would happen. I didnt care if he won or lost but I did want to watch
Going
I think it’s went as far as its going to go, and in honesty Brock was about the best chance Radio Stream they had at taking it to the next level on that stage!! Anderson jj etc are far and away better fighters but if people don’t know who they are…they just don’t care!
by zackmiller091 on Apr 7, 2012 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Love him or hate him, the fact is he picked up where Forrest v Bonner I left off. He helped Zuffa/MMA get more exposure and for that, everyone owes him some gratitude. I’ve always liked and backed Brock (except vs Ubereem, that’s my guy) and would continued to have as long as he didn’t go up against another fav. For those saying he hasn’t really accomplished something, you don’t get internet cool points for being a parrot. Be original and I promise, one girl will like you. Who knows, she may let you feel her boobies!
Cheers,
Jay Kilgore
http://www.jaykilgore.com
Nice article Jason
I enjoyed the reflection.
Irony is the clash of opposites. It is the juxtaposition of what is expected against what happens; what you know and what you think you know. And... Most people don't get it.
by irq77 on Jan 1, 2012 11:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Indeed.
This was a well written article. One of the better MMA articles I’ve read. I’ve rather disliked Brock over the years because I hate fake wrestling but this article actually made me feel for the guy a bit. Maybe I’m turning gay. You’re a powerful writer if you can make a man’s man like me think about another man’s penis.
Long time reader.
First time poster.
Brock for the UFC Hall of Fame petition.
i wonder how long it will tkae before Dana puts brock in the UFC Fall of Fame, Dana still needs to get one more pound of flesh off the Steoid before he go back to what he calls rela fighting… WWE. O yeah Fedor beat Satoshi Ishii last night iva TKO in the first round, in case anyone didn’t know
yeah ridiculous i know but watch him end up in there lol
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
the fact that it could happen is scary and ridiculous
Nunes DEC, Riddle KO 2, Volkmann SUB 3, DHK DEC, Castillo Sub 2, Pearson DEC, Pham KO 2, Gustaffson KO 3, Fitch DEC, Cerrone DEC, Brock TKO 2
Jason Probst, you are an amazing writer!
I praise your talent as a writer! You truly amazed me with this article – I LOVE your style and fluid articulations. You are far beyond the kitsch, and your writing is generations ahead of any evolution your average mechanical textbook writer could dream of touching. Awesome article!
- from another avid writer; scored 100% on written English recently, as well as the highest score out of the entire pre-university grade
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On the subject:
Yes, Brock Lesnar was an anomaly, seemingly born from rare yet concurrent shadows of potential and terror. Athletic gifts, scientific wrestling – so few attributes – yet built of crude prominence, enough to dazzle the unsuspecting and engulf the unfortunate. Lesnar’s career sloughed away in painful moments of overwhelming losses, starting with his doomed struggle against the superior Cain. However, his fate had not been enough to taint his legacy, for he has proven himself among the greats – with an atypical lack of experience – and left his mark much like a twister does after an intense few minutes of absolute destruction.
Lesnar – MMA’s tersest phenomenon.
http://savantfight.blogspot.com
"Lesnar’s career sloughed away in painful moments of overwhelming losses, starting with his doomed struggle against the superior Cain."
The guy only lost 2 fights his whole time in the UFC.
The way you say it, it’s like he lost 50.
And how did the “Superior” Cain do against JDS? Got clocked by a right hand…..THE END.
What a “Superior” fighter he is. ****rollseyes****
Thanks, Hugo! I appreciate. You are slinging some fine prose yourself – I can tell an English major every time ;).
by Jason Probst on Jan 7, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions

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