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Who is MMA's best lightweight champion?: The case for Eddie Alvarez

In Mixed Martial Arts the lightweight division is highly regarded as the most stacked from top to bottom. The most legendary being former two time UFC lightweight champion BJ Penn. Some of the best fighters in the world compete at 155 from Shinya Aoki, Clay Guida, Ben Henderson, Jim Miller, Donald Cerrone, Anthony Pettis and Gray Maynard.

The division is filled with some of the most exciting fighters and some of the most potentially exciting fights everytime.The upsets,favorites and rising stars have atleast made the stacked UFC lightweight divsiion a proverbial 'log jam'

The question i pose is- Who is the best champion of the 155 divisions?. Is it Bellator lightweight champion Eddie Alvarez (22-2), Strikeforce lightweight champion Gilbert Melendez (19-2) or UFC lightweight champion Frankie Edgar (13-1-1)?


Three fighters who pose challenges to everyone with their wrestling, striking and ground games. Three of the most well rounded fighters regardless of weight. If you gave some other division challengers their skill sets we'd see the belts switch hands sooner then later.

In this edition of a three part series we look at Bellator where in the 155 streets it's always sunny in Philadelphia

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The case for Bellator lightweight champion, Eddie Alvarez

Philadelphia,PA's own Eddie Alvarez is quite possibly the best boxer in mixed martial arts. His head movement and ability to stick a jab while alluding counters i amazing. The motor on him maybe his best tool because his pace hardly if ever slows down due to fatigue.

A champion in almost every promotion he has been has given many pundits the right to call Alvarez 'the best lightweight NOT to fight in the UFC'. That maybe very true but unlike his counterparts he has had some losses that may hold that against him.

Now being 22-2 in 24 bouts is amazing and i do not take anything away from Alvarez but his two losses were against some of his stiffest competition to date. In 2007, Alvarez squared off against Nick Thompson in his first defense of the BoDog Fight lightweight championship. Alvarez is a mere 5'8 in comparison to Thompson who clocks in at 6'1. The fight proved that sometimes, 'height kills'as Thompson avoided being picked apart due to his length. He kept Alvarez on the outside to batter him for a decision win. The fight also showed that Alvarez needed to improve his work of range but it was a loss against a then veteran compared to him

On new year's ever 2008, Alvarez took a huge leap in the 155 pool by taking on the Japanese contortionist himself, Shinya Aoki. Aoki, came into this bout with 10 submission victories ranging from regular old arnbars to flying triangle chokes and a rare gogoplata over Joachim Hansen. As good a boxer Alvarez may be his ground game was just not on par. Aoki made Alvarez tap at 1:32 of round 1 to secure the victory.

Alvarez hasn't lost since that unfateful New Year's Eve in Japan.

A free agent with two of his biggest fights being losses, newly formed Bellator Fighting Championship inked the 'broadstreet bully' to a deal, it payed off. Alvarez won and smashed the lightweights in the inaugural Bellator lighweighttitle tournament. He wouldn't use his boxing to stop an opponent or his wrestling to grind a decision but used his newly imprved ground game. He choked out everyone in his way including Toby Imada in the finals to put his stamp on the world.,

At Bellator 17, Alvarez would face Josh Neer in a 160 pound catchweight bout. Alvarez determined he can beat recognized names of the sport would take the challenge no problemo. He notched another impressive win by dominating Josh Neer at all facetsby locking in a rear naked choke early in the second round.

At Bellator 33, the competition got even stiffer as the first mixed martial artist on the cover of ESPN the magazine wondered into Bellator. Roger Huerta, a highly regarded 155er was coming into the cage to face Alvarez. The home court advantage was fully in Alvarez' corner as the fight took place in Philadelphia. Ironically, this was also the first time Alvarez had competed in his hometown. The pressure of pleasing the home crowd against one of the division's best was a tall task. Let's just say that the Flyers of the 1970's would have been proud ebcause Alvarez beat the living hell out of Huerta and stopped Huerta after two rounds when doctors gave him mercy.

At Bellator 39, Alvarez riding high off the Neer and Huerta wins had to face tough nosed Pat Curran in defense of his Bellatorlightweight title. The superior boxing of Alvarez negated a brawl with Curran but it also led to a decision. Alvarez fought almost tentatively and earned only his third win by way of decision through 24 bouts.

On October 15th, 2011 at Bellator54, Eddie Alvarez will once again defend his lightweight strap against season four lightweight tournament winner, Michael Chandler. The wrestler representing XtremeCouture will need to find a way to enforce his wrestling if he has any chance. He has beaten striker Patricky Freire of recent but i think Alvarez' diversity in boxing,wrestlinga nd grappling will be far too much for Chandler. Another W is on the horizon if Alvarez wishes to be considered acontender for best lightweight champion.

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Eddie's the fing man.

But is he the number one Light Weight in the world? Not at all.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

This

While he’s the better champion as far as title defenses and such, he hasn’t fought the same level of competition as Edgar.

by pbdb on Sep 5, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is,

we just don’t know. And as long as Edgar is the UFC LW champ, we’ll never see Alvarez in the UFC. Although I think he would do quite well for himself, his technical skills have really been improving lately.

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by ElliotMatheny on Sep 7, 2011 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

eddie is the best fighter in the world by far

way better then edgar cuz alvarez was even able to clear out his whole division, whlie frankie still has a million opponents waiting for him

by John G. on Sep 5, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Dumbest thing I heard all day.

Are you really saying that cleaning out the Bellator LW division is on equal footing to cleaning out the UFC LW division?

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He won a tournamnet, smashed Neer at 160 and beat Huerta. He has done very well but he needs to beat Chandler and avange the Aoki loss IMO.

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 5, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He beat guys who got kicked out of the UFC.

Since when does that put him above a guy at the top of the UFC. You guys are trolling I swear, John G. this place was better without you.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can can't even find a way to win against Maynard is stupid.

Maynard is the number 2 Light Weight around, you act like he’s not very good but it just shows how uneducated you are. I mean you did think Fedor was a “God”.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trolling? I am simply saying he is a very good fighter and yes Neer isn’t amazing but Huerta and him meet at a competitive time, Alvarez got the best of him.

He’s not number but i’m ask of the champions not division vs. division. Plus Alvarez is one of the few guys i can see tranistioning over and having a good impact. I’d take him over Pettis,Guida,Nate Diaz,Cerrone

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 5, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was referring to Johnny.

You’re more realistic.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say kinda.

I was confused because usually you believe what you say. I didn’t think you believed that so I guess I fell for it.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah no point in having a real convo about this with me cuz im super biased towards my boy eddie.

what i do know for certain is that when he spars wit frankie edgar, 2 different people with first hand knowledge told me that eddie usually gets the best of frankie!

thats all i know!

by John G. on Sep 5, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds good.

But I take Edgar over Eddie any day. Love both guys though.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d sure hope he didn’t mean that. Though i think Bellator’s 155 division is on par with SF. I just think SF has made more of an effort to give Melendez competition. Bringing in Aoki and Kawijiri were great ways to build the Melendez bandwagon.

It’s easy to compare win-loss but i’m doing this as if they all afced each once who’d have the most wins.

Pure talent i think it’s Alvarez, game plan is Edgar and Melendez is the wild card. His most impressive wins are Kawijiri (twice), Aoki and Guida. The biggest difference in comp between Eddie and Gilbert is the Guida fight. If Eddie avenges the Aoki loss and the Chandler defense this year he’d tied at 2 with Gilbert.

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 5, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eddie beat some decent 155ers but his resume of who he has faced and beat isn’t on par with Edgar.

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 5, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction: He cleaned a weak Division.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction: What division? it’s a tournamnet. It’s not like they face out of the bracket or even that often. Alvarez is good, how good? lets see after Chandler and Aoki.

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 5, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lightweight rankings imo

1 Edgar
2 Melendez
3 Maynard
4 Alvarez
5Aoki

Aoki hasn’t beaten anyone good in a while, hes very overrated imo

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by The Pride on Sep 5, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

If you ask me.

Aoki is lucky to be top 10 at all.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Aoki would have a tough time in the UFC

but I think he’s talented n strong enough to adapt and that fight with Melendez seems to have help him progress, the guy is 28yrs old and improving he needs another big test he’s a lose fit at #5 but I can see the argument for him in there.

"Some have wrestled without great skill - none have wrestled without pride."

by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a good list pride

personally I’d switch Melendez n’ Maynard

"Some have wrestled without great skill - none have wrestled without pride."

by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or any of the guys who know wrestling.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 5, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You obviously haven't watch much of Alvarez,

dude is a stud wrestler/ grappler. Aoki caught him, but he might just get his revenge.

Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).

"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates

by ElliotMatheny on Sep 7, 2011 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who ever wrote this shit fails....

Listed in bold are three of his wins Neer…Imada….Roger <——wtf??? Those are not his three biggest wins clearly someone knows jack about mma. There is no mention of him beating Kawajiri or Hellboy or Kikuno I mean seriously if you are gonna post something titled: Who is MMA’s best lightweight champion?: The case for Eddie Alvarez then at least try and make a fucken case.

As for the #1 LW its Gilbert if Guido beats Maynard then its Guido.

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by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not the fact of beating Imada it’s winning the Bellator lightweight tournament and winning the Bellator lightweight strap. Beating huerta who is in fact his highest profiled opponent is a huge win. Huerta may be down on his luck but at one time he was arguably the best lightweight in the UFC not named BJ Penn.

After seeing in hindsight what Melendez and Alvarez have done to kawairji i’m not impressed with him. Joachim Hansen a little more impressive but when you have faced Kawijiri and Aoki (best resume opponents) for a combined 4 times and are 1-3 you’re not winning me over impressively.

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 6, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gilbert my ass.

He hasn’t beaten anyone in the top 5 unless you count Aoki who also hasn’t beaten anyone in the top 5 outside of fake Japan.

"Sakuraba beats Silva majority of the time IMO" - "Striker" David Emerson

by guyverbob on Sep 6, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that's the question it's so scattered at the top 5

we can automatically guess edgar/maynard #1 n #2 but the fit is so loose from 3-5 I mean guys that say Guida is in top 5 have a great case, but Melendez “beat the hell outta Guida”… There’s MMA math written all over cases made for 3-5… there is no clear cut choices imo

"Some have wrestled without great skill - none have wrestled without pride."

by THORAZINE on Sep 6, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way in hell is Eddie Alvarez the #1 guy nor is there really even an argument for such. If he beats Aoki he would still only be #4.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 6, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

The purposes of this edition or series i should say is comparing the three tor north american champions.

If all three faced off, one on one, who would have the best W-L

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 6, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Melendez is the only guy who you could make a legit argument for as even a #2 guy. Edgar and Maynard rule this division.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 6, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not arguin their statue at 155, i’m arguing who is the best of the 3 champions, if they fough each other once who’d have the best record.

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 6, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maynard.

He already beat Edgar, drew with Edgar and would smash Eddie. 2-0-1
Edgar lost to Maynard, draw with Maynard and would beat Eddie. 1-1-1
Alvarez would lose to Edgar and Maynard 0-2

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 6, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha i think Maynard will win the trilogy myself

Maynard is just such a beast at lightweight

"What it means, and what it means for us, is the idea that anyone can fight anyone. ...Eventually everyone is going to fight everyone else. It's going to have to happen. It's inevitable. That's what the WAMMA belt stands for. It stands for the hope for the future that the best people in the world will meet the best people in the world without organizations, without contracts, without all this stuff getting in the way. That's why we hold the WAMMA belt in such importance. ... It stands for an idea. Not only for Fedor but for us."
-M-1 Global Evgeni Kogan on the importance of the WAMMA title

by WAMMA on Sep 6, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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