ADCC 2011: David Avellan blames leg injury on Rousimar Palhares who 'cranked' after referee yelled 'stop'
by Jesse Holland on Sep 29, 2011 1:41 PM EDT
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Rousimar Palhares has a tendency to be cranky when he competes.
Since his UFC debut back in 2008, the stumpy submission specialist has made headlines with his bizarre behavior and questionable stoppages.
Just ask Tomasz Drwal, who was damn near dismembered at UFC 111, despite tapping, after the Brazilian failed to release a heel hook when instructed to by referee Kevin Mulhall.
Palhares apologized, but it didn't save him from a 90-day suspension.
History has a way of repeating itself, and in the 2011 Abu Dhabi Combat Club (ADCC) submission grappling tournament, "Toquinho" locked on to the leg of David Avellan and didn't let go -- despite rolling out of bounds and being instructed to stop.
"He shoulder-butted me right from the get-go and smacked me in the head a couple of times, kind of uncalled for. From my guard, he was trying to pass to side and I was just really cautious with the leg locks. My memory is a little blurry on this but at one point I turtled and then I was in a heel hook. We started rolling and we went out of bounds. The referee said 'stop,' I stopped, he cranked, I yelled and my knee popped right there. He thought the match was over, I guess, he kind of clubbed me again, I dunno what's his deal, if he's slow ... I was pretty upset."
Avellan and his team discuss the injury, along with video of the incident, after the jump.
Alright Maniacs, let's get some thoughts on this latest mishap. Do you believe Palhares is good-natured but "slow," or a grappling bully hell-bent on hurting anyone who gets in his way?
Opinions, please.
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i thought this was given???
Paul is a cheater or a winner depending on how you see it.
If you want to educate yourself talk to Puck Head., he is Mania’s Sig Champion for a reason.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 29, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This mofo needs to be banned from all combat sports. This is seriously way beyond too much.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Sep 29, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It comes with the territory....can't ban him
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
"Obey my commands at all times"
Ask Babalu about that.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Sep 29, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
And what happens when the commands aren't clear?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
There will always be those situations but when the ref is pulling you off another combatant and you resist that's not confusion.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Sep 29, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's pure douchebaggery I agree...
The solution to douchebaggery is a good ol fashion beat down…but him in the cage with someone that hands that shit out…but if Paul ends up facking that dude up too, then what can we really say?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
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fw-garcia,aldo,torres,benavidez
K-1
Badr hari
gokan saki
remy bonjaski
tyrone spong
alistair overeem
ernesto hoost
andy hug
The speed of that gif makes that look soo much more vicious than I remember! Lol
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
choking someone unconscious is not the same as potentially blowing out someone’s knee completely putting them on the shelf for 6 months. do you even train in grappling to make that comparison?
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Sep 29, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said it “a grappling simple jack” lol
by ClinchKing on Sep 29, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
the grappling simple jack will fuck u up smokey
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K-1
Badr hari
gokan saki
remy bonjaski
tyrone spong
alistair overeem
ernesto hoost
andy hug
by infinite on Sep 29, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
big man Lou Ferrigno
and Palhares look similar actually..haha.
Paul does seem a bit slow
Give him Vitor, let’s see what happens, cos I think he has the skills to be ruthless. Especially if he keeps improving his wrassling.
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
by Starr788 on Sep 29, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Read the story. The ref instructed both of them to stop and only 1 of them did.
"It’s Mark Pavelich calling from the Maximum Fighting Championship,
I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Sep 29, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the story according to Avellan
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
you have any other story to go off of?
Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.
You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.
by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 29, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, do you?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
Are you suggesting we should go off a possible story that might exist somewhere out there?
Over the story we have right here in front of us?
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Sep 29, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope...are you?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
seriously, you're like a special ed, short bus riding, kind of stupid
Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.
You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.
by I.AM.miSTAKen on Oct 3, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
The guy is a REPEAT OFFENDER
c’mon man…really?
I'm not backing him up at all
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
not quite.
I suggest you see the actual video.
1. the ref was slow to react, unclear and inefficient. Rousimar even thought the ref had awarded victory to him right there.
2. he was cranking before and because of (1) he continued to do so.
3. if Avellan was hurting he should’ve tapped.
4. if Avellan was hurt after that he shouldn’t have agreed to restart in that position (which was clearly suicidal). It’s pretty clear he only got hurt after the restart which was completely fair game on Rousimar’s part.
avellan taps VERY clearly after the restart and palhares f***ing bends his knee brutally in the submission
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Sep 29, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
like i said before I'm glad nate did against this asshole
NICK DIAZ.... champ early 2012
by 209stk on Sep 29, 2011 1:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
greased?
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lw-melendez,g-sot,aoki,pettis,huerta,alvarez,guillard,tibau
fw-garcia,aldo,torres,benavidez
K-1
Badr hari
gokan saki
remy bonjaski
tyrone spong
alistair overeem
ernesto hoost
andy hug
No Knocked the moron out
FUCK THE WORLD!! AND FUCK YOU TOO!
by Mr.Randy Watson on Sep 29, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
greased?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
yeah
numerous displays of poor conduct from palhares, but were gonna trust his word that nate greased…brilliant
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I didn't say I trust his word...I was just playing off what infinite said
Also, I don’t see how the two correlate (displays of poor conduct and trusting his word)…it’s not like Paul lied after his poor displays of conduct, so where does “trusting his word” come into play?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
it speaks to his character
he consistently tries to injure people, so how is he a credible individual?
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Oh...well...I don't think he's a credible individual...he seems a little off in my opinion...
But dudes are in that cage trying to smash each other…or their rolling on that mat trying to submit each other…these fack ups are bound to happen…it’s just ironic that it’s the same dude facking up, over and over again….still, he’s already developed a reputation so anything he does will be looked at in accordance to his reputation
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
nate been popped a few times for steriod use and hitting people after the bell n his camp has been accused of greasing before
but were gonna trust his word
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lw-melendez,g-sot,aoki,pettis,huerta,alvarez,guillard,tibau
fw-garcia,aldo,torres,benavidez
K-1
Badr hari
gokan saki
remy bonjaski
tyrone spong
alistair overeem
ernesto hoost
andy hug
well, i wouldnt trust his word necessarily either
but youre misleading people a little bit there…marquardt hit almeida after the bell, but that was only after almeida held the choke too long…he also was only popped for steroids once…finally, everyone and their mother said that nate didnt grease that night, including the ringside examination and palhares’ camp…palhares himself admitted that he made it up…just because jacksons was accused once, doesnt mean that was true, which definitely doesnt mean you can use it against them in the future
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
sorry but wasnt it renzo gracie that attacked almeda after the fight
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almeida held the choke too long, marquardt popped him, renzo was cornering ricardo and came into the ring and kicked nate in the face for hitting almeida
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
I would never want to compete with a guy like palhares
He seems mentally challenged
His intent is to injury his opponent
"People love to make noise so I separate myself from the crowd.The purest thoughts come to mind in quiet moments"-letter19
by letter19 on Sep 29, 2011 2:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You wouldn't want to fight a guy who has the intent of injuring you?
I thought the solution would just be to whoop his ass up something proper….
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
nope..
Fighting against someone like palhares means if I get caught in a submission I could suffer career threatining injury
"People love to make noise so I separate myself from the crowd.The purest thoughts come to mind in quiet moments"-letter19
by letter19 on Sep 29, 2011 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Palhares just comes off as dumb. When was the last time he had a fight where he actually managed to stop when the ref told him to?
He has been grappling for so long, he certainly knows the kind of damage his leg locks can do to an opponent’s health, long term. Ref or no ref you have SOME responsibility to the other fighter’s well being. Apparently Palhares just lacks that.
by Shamil Magomedov on Sep 29, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions
;-)
Palhares clearly has brain damage
He makes Paulo Filho look lucid.
"Fedor is the biggest can-crusher in the history of MMA, and M1 Global is made up of gangsters." — Shamil Magomedov
LOL
FUCK THE WORLD!! AND FUCK YOU TOO!
by Mr.Randy Watson on Sep 29, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Palhares is the dumbest fighter in MMA
Stops fights on his own and declares himself the winner. Wouldn’t put him past him to cheat or intentionally injure. I could also see him landing the first punch in a fight and trying to stop the fight declaring himself the winner.
FUCK THE WORLD!! AND FUCK YOU TOO!
by Mr.Randy Watson on Sep 29, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
that was great^ he is entertaining i must admit
"People love to make noise so I separate myself from the crowd.The purest thoughts come to mind in quiet moments"-letter19
by letter19 on Sep 29, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah hes gotta be a ritard.
He is either celebrating too soon or still going after the fights over. Somebody get him a coloring book.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Sep 29, 2011 2:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
lol, ritard.
That movie is great.
UFC on Versus 6 Predictions:
Dominick Cruz def Denetrius Johnson by dec
Pat Barry def Stefan Struve by 1st Rd TKO
Anthony Johnson def Charlie Brenneman by dec
Matt Wiman def Mac Danzig by dec
by MMA Boss on Sep 29, 2011 6:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Live by the sword, die by the sword
One of these days, Palhares will face a training partner or buddy of a guy he recklessly injured and that guy is gonna break his leg on purpose.
I’d like to see an example made of this guy, as a repeat offender, before he ends someone’s career with his stupidity.
I think you're pretty tough....don't I?
Daffy Duck
by Scottidog on Sep 29, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i was just gonna say
i dont wanna wish an injury on anybody…but i would like to see how palhares acts if he were to come back from a, say, torn acl at the hands of a demian maia kneebar…i bet he wouldnt be as reckless, as you said, after that
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
Agreed
There are only 2 ways I can see getting through to this moron….
1) Hospitalize the prick with his own tactics
2) Don’t let him fight. Ban the fucker from competition for 2 years.
I think you're pretty tough....don't I?
Daffy Duck
by Scottidog on Sep 29, 2011 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Put him in the cage against Vitor...
If Vitor doesn’t teach him a lesson and Paul facks Vitor’s leg up as well…then…I can only become a fan of Paul…
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
Looks like you are already
Since your the only one on the whole site who seems to be sticking up and making excuses for him.
I came here to chew bubble gum and kick ass.....and I'm all out of bubble gum!!!
by TillaDaDrilla on Sep 29, 2011 3:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not making any excuses for him...I'll be the first to say he doesn't some dumb shiiiit
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
by Starr788 on Sep 29, 2011 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's just like the women I prefer
Dumb and dirty. Dude seriously needs to get a grip. I’ve seen him F’ up too many times.
Dude needs to "get a grip"?
If anything he needs to loosen it up.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Sep 29, 2011 4:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's interesting sometimes to see how we make distinctions
Palhares claimed that Miller told him to stop, so he stopped…in that same night Shogun claimed Griffin begged him to stop, but he didn’t, even though he felt bad about clubbing Griffin’s face into the canvas (that was some scary ish)….because the ref is the one that should make the decision…it sucks for fighters…a lot of times they have to make an immoral decision for the sake of the competition…Paul is confused…he doesn’t know whether to show mercy or to be an animal…dude needs some therapy if you ask me
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
paul need therapy and you need an education
Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.
You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.
by I.AM.miSTAKen on Oct 3, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it just me or..
If Chael loses to Stann, can we see Chael / Palhares?
Sonnen’s an extremely odd character in the truest sense as well…
Let’s put the two bozo’s in together… If anyone gets their leg broken, I’d like it to be Chael…Palhares is the man to do it. haha! Sign it. ;- )
I seriously think Palhares is missing in the brains department
And I would really like to see him fighting Chael on a day that he does not feel merciful!
Is it possible to shut Chael’s mouth forever with a rear naked choke, anaconda or the like?
Btw, I do not really think he hurts guys intentionally.
I am more likely to believe he keeps his hold for too long because his brain is not capable of doing 2 things simultaneously, them things being
1) Hold leg
2) Understand the referee
on second thought, I am not sure he is capable of understanding the referee even if that is the only thing he is supposed to be doing.
Gotta agree.
I’m pretty sure he dropped out of school and never really got a formal education so he’s likely not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Honestly I don’t think he even knows just how freakishly strong he is and coupled with him growing up below even the poverty threshold he likely developed a ridiculous will to win. Most people say he’s a nice guy and definitely comes across that way in interviews so I doubt he does with cruelty in mind.
If I were a Bloody Vag poster I would make some high-brow literary reference comparing Palhares to the simpleton Lenny from Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men
But I think I’ll just call him a fucking retard instead.
When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.
I think the Lenny comparison was dead-on.
In interviews and when talking about his poverty stricken youth it’s obvious he’s not a bad guy. He’s just not all there mentally.
I just don't like this guy
How does he have fans? He’s an obvious steroid abuser and a cheater. He crippled Drwal and ppl cheer for this fool? God I wish Dan Miller knocked him out after he pulled that shit in his last fight jumping up on the cage.
I don’t think he does steroids if you work your whole life I’m pretty sure you look like that too
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lw-melendez,g-sot,aoki,pettis,huerta,alvarez,guillard,tibau
fw-garcia,aldo,torres,benavidez
K-1
Badr hari
gokan saki
remy bonjaski
tyrone spong
alistair overeem
ernesto hoost
andy hug
by infinite on Sep 29, 2011 7:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Dude, he’s too dumb to know the rules to the sport he fights in. He in no way got that big without steroids. You gotta be dedicated and know a lot about what builds muscle and keeps it on to look like that.
This man
is deformed
Donald Cerrone on Jamie Varner:
"You can't take the bitch outta somebody that's just in em, it's in their soul brother."
Not sure of the details
but he injured Lovato also at ADCC. Lovato was the 3rd heelhook victim, he said his knee was ok, a little sore but his ankle was hurt. I wouldn’t be opposed to banning heelhooks from all events. They are likely one of the most devastating legal moves you can do.
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