Georges St. Pierre will train with Dan Hardy for UFC 137 fight against Carlos Condit
by Jesse Holland on Sep 28, 2011 11:23 AM EDT
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UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre is calling on a former foe to help get him ready to rumble against Carlos Condit at UFC 137 on Oct. 29 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Dan Hardy, to be specific.
"The Outlaw" knows a thing or two about fighting Condit, as the two 170-pounders made hay while the sun shined at UFC 120 back in October 2010.
He also knows a thing or two about getting knocked clean out, which is what happened at the hands of "The Natural Born Killer" when they traded blows last year across the pond. The defeat to Condit was loss number two in his current four-fight skid, which makes Hardy's addition to the TriStar training camp an unusual choice.
Then again, St. Pierre said he was adding "intensity."
Hardy, who was submitted by Chris Lytle at UFC on Versus 5 just last month, struggled against the wrestling-based attack of Anthony Johnson prior to that in his UFC Fight Night 24 bout earlier this year.
In fact, he hasn't won a fight since taking a judge's decision from Mike Swick at UFC 109 back in 2009.
How about it fight fans, what do you make of the newest addition to the St. Pierre training camp? Can the talented but down-on-his-luck Hardy help "intensify" the daily operations? Or was this a miscalculation at a critical point in the "Rush" camp?
Opinions, please.
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Yeah all this will help with is how to get Georges KTFO!
But I hope Hardy trains there full time…might learn a thing or a million about wrasslin’
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 28, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions
Are you trying to say training with GSP is a step up from training with Pig Country?
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and that there are as few as there are any other great artists.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan is teaching him how to not do this
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That exchange could have went the otherw ay..easily. Hardy is a little lower on the chin and gets a better torque.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Sep 28, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
well it didnt.. haha
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Not saying it did. But if you rewatch the Evans-Liddel exchange it was evident that Evans was just too fast at that point. Both punches tossed were KO worthy.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Sep 28, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
The right/left combo Condit throws to a flattened Hardy is fucking vicious.
Talk about landing directly on the chin!
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by ViolentMike on Sep 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
fucking laser beams man.
As proven, ULF has superior pick-em knowledge than I. I tip my hat to thee sir.
Don't pity those who tried and lost. Pity those who never had the courage to try in the first place.
Which is why I think Condit has a shot against Georgie Peorgie
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hardy's technique isnt as clean as condits.
thats why condits was more effective.
hardy actually has less toruqe on his punch.
As proven, ULF has superior pick-em knowledge than I. I tip my hat to thee sir.
Don't pity those who tried and lost. Pity those who never had the courage to try in the first place.
Hardy had awful technique that's by he was ko
He’s one of my favs but he threw 4 left hooks in a row last one was too looping and condit was was crisper and faster. Hardy was way to telegraphed
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by Kalejohncox on Sep 28, 2011 12:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Condit definitely felt that
he looked a little rocked. im impressed with how accurate that next shot he hit him with on the ground was. Still, condit is going down.
yeah i think anyone would look a little unbalanced after getting punched in the neck haha!
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 28, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya, iy was the neck
but damn that would still hurt like hell.
This is a bizarre choice in training partners
I would think that there is nothing Hardy could teach him.
Training partners are not always there to teach
Sometimes they’re just there to…..well…hmm…train
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
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For a title fight? It should be to learn something or get a training partner to simulate the tendencies of said opponent. GSP is always trying to evolve so I will have to assume that he feels he can learn something from Hardy.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
correct.
everyone can learn something from anyone.
GSP got to where he is with that motto. He isnt as arrogant to think because he beat hardy, hardy has nothing to show him, and training with him would be a waste of time.
As proven, ULF has superior pick-em knowledge than I. I tip my hat to thee sir.
Don't pity those who tried and lost. Pity those who never had the courage to try in the first place.
if he didnt think Hardy was a good striker
than he wouldnt have completely stayed away from his stand up in his fight.
I think GSP has a tonne of respect for hardy for not tapping to him. GSP couldnt believe it
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I still can't believe it myself.
Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.
Maybe he's there to train the pansy out of George
"Fedor is the biggest can-crusher in the history of MMA, and M1 Global is made up of gangsters." — Shamil Magomedov
Well for one, Hardy is a very good counter striker. And this is just another person that GSP adds that helps him improve. Hardy is big and strong and likes to throw southpaw. So he defintely has plenty to offer GSP.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 28, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Condit has excellent stand-up in his boxing and Muay Thai. ’Ardy is a sloppy brawler. The fact that they both happen to be lefties is merely coincidental. Add to that the fact that Condit is lethal off his back and in scrambles, and the decision to bring in ’Ardy makes even less sense.
When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.
Hardy probably asked GSP if he could come to Montreal to train with him...GSP isn't going to turn down an extra training partner, especially one that has been in the cage with Condit
And Hardy isn’t sloppy…his Tae Kwon Do is pretty solid
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
Yea and maybe Jones will bring in Chuck to train for Rashad
sigs are gay
by HellaHectic on Sep 28, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Soooo...does your sarcasm imply
…that Chuck, the greatest UFC LHW champion to date could offer Jones nothing in regards to his upcoming fight with Rashad? Is this really what you’re saying? Chuck who has legendary TDD and excellent Karate? And crazy experience in the cage?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
when is the last time he used his karate? I’m thinking that Segal has used his karate more recently than Chuck
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by hairybumcrack on Sep 28, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He used his Karate to break Franklin's forearm
Which was his last fight……anymore brain bustas?!
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
And he used his snooze button to lose a minute later.
When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.
No the ref had to hit it because he knew Chuck wasn't getting up.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Sep 28, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
exactly what im thinking
it doesnt say that GSP called up Hardy to come train, it just says Hardy is going to be training with GSP.
i’ll bet Hardy was the one who asked to come train with GSP
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perhaps he isn't interested in his MMA skills
perhaps he was looking for a new boy toy around his camp
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by hairybumcrack on Sep 28, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He's got Rory for that
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
Rory should have another match against Condit
or Kos, Alves, anyone else at WW as he’d surely win. I think that Ellenberger would also be a good match up for Rory……feed Rory to the sharks. He’ll survive.
You may have a point with Rory that I never thought about. His ears are quite large, in comparison to Hardy, and therefore much easier to get a grip on for Georges.
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by hairybumcrack on Sep 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha...
Rory is already booked unfortunately…but Kos vs Ellenberger would be dooooope….Alves needs to redeem himself big time
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
Not a sloppy brawler at all
One dimensional boxer maybe
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by Kalejohncox on Sep 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Killer instinct maybe. Teaching him how to go for the finish.
A personality like Hardy could be beneficial to a training camp which relates to what GSP was saying about him bringing “intensity” to the table.
by southpaw447 on Sep 28, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Good for Hardy
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em
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by ViolentMike on Sep 28, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Georges please learn some striking from Ardy
So i can see u sprawled out on the canvas unconscious.. twitching
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by 209stk on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Go back to your shanty in the 209, you faggot
by southpaw447 on Sep 28, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
haha u use the word shanty and im a fag
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by 209stk on Sep 28, 2011 1:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What else would you call the concrete and iron homes in Stockton?
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by 209stk on Sep 28, 2011 6:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Condit and Hardys stand up styles are very similar. I think it’s very smart on the champs part. But Condits ground game is very good and hardy can’t help in that area.
by The D-train on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
do you really thing GSP brought him in with the hopes of Hardy helping him with ground training?
he has Roger Gracie for that
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Dan will get
more out of this than George. Maybe this is just what Dan needs, a little refining around his already top notch striking and he can be dangerous. Go see how champions get it done!
this is nothing
pop into a recent Jon Jones thread!
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I would but..
I don’t want to be accused of ruining someones special day, so I’ll stay out of any jones thread.
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by TillaDaDrilla on Sep 28, 2011 11:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
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by Kalejohncox on Sep 28, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Now this is QOTW worthy ^^^
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He doesn’t even need to train to beat Condit. The level of competition GSP is facing isn’t the best. Condit, seriously? He couldn’t beat Kampmann or Shields.
I actually thought the decision wth Kampann could have been either way
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 28, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
too easy
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by hairybumcrack on Sep 28, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I just checked.
You’re right Danago, as always!
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Yep I thought that was condits fight
And danago your an idiot condit is top comp finished all his fights but one and has lost only once which was questionable lately. Just wait till hendo clean kos your boy so you can get all sad an emotional again
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by Kalejohncox on Sep 28, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I Thot condit took that fight aswell.
I wana see C-Los knock him out in a rematch.!
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Hardy moves a lot like condit they seem to be about the same size and height
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by letter19 on Sep 28, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hardy dwarfs Condit in size
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 28, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hardy is abig welterweight prolly at most 195 pounds at times.
Hardy isn’t even that terrible his only lacking hole is wrestling. If Hardy had good enough wrestling we wouldn’t be shitting on him. One english fighter has shown dominant wrestling and that’s Hathaway. Hardy is very young and if he focuses on training he could still be aplayer at 170 pounds.
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by Lesnar's striking coach on Sep 28, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Hardy is thicker but Condit is longer (no homo)
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
and Condit cannot speak spanish
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by hairybumcrack on Sep 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Baxter? Is that you?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
You pooped in the refrigerator?
And you ate……the whole wheel of cheese? You know what I’m not even mad, that’s amazing!
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Sep 28, 2011 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hard got outstruck by Chris Lytle....
I don’t see how any striking of his will help GSP, GSP is miles ahead in every aspect
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 28, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
GSP is probably miles ahead of everyone he trains with
Does that mean he shouldn’t have any training partners?
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
When its Hardy then no, Hardy brings nothing for GSP at all and I'm a fan of neither
Roger gracie for JJ GSP will learn from.
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 28, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Roger is all the way in the UK
That’s a far trip to make for every camp
Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great
I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name
He could always bring him over...
Considering Roger fights in the US
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 28, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
but GSP brings alot for Hardy
and thats why Hardy chose to go train with GSP. It doesnt say anywhere that GSP brough Hardy in
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Hardy is just dropping by to pay his respect and will be gone before you know it.
Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.
very interesting
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i dont necessarily thing that GSP "brought in" Hardy to help him for Condit
maybe Hardy called GSP up and asked to train with him! Losing 4 straight you need to mix something up, and you already fought the champ, so why not try and train with the champ!
dont think GSP necessarily hunted down Hardy
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Hardy comes from a camp with no champions unless Cage Rage welterweight champion Paul Daley is considered a champion there still. Champions breathe an aura into the room. AKA has Cain, Jackson’s has Jones, Black House has Anderson, ect ect. Hardy is gunna see what a champion is made of.
When Miletich had Hughes-Sylvia-Pulver the camp was strong as fuck.
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by Lesnar's striking coach on Sep 28, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Aside from borrowing his mouthpiece.....
i’m not really seeing how Hardy can help The Champ……
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Smart move on GSP's part.
The more training partners you have, the more dimensions you can corner. Question his methods all you want, he’s still arguably the best fighter on the planet, and the best trained athlete in the UFC.
Excellent idea IMO
Hardy maybe riding a losing streak but he brings a gritty toughness and fearlessness GSP’s performances maybe lacking as of late.
At least according to most folks who on one hand criticize fighters up one side and down the for not being ‘entertaining enough’ and on the other will criticize them for losing..
Why would GSP bring Hardy in? After you go to war with someone, you tend to develop a lot of respect for them like them or not beforehand.
Criticize Hardy all you want but I somehow doubt you’d pass up the opportunity to train with the guy given the opportunity yourself.
Good post.
Another good point is that GSP doesn’t need an inflatede ego to go about his business. This is his career and he’s doing a pretty good job thus far, I’d say.
by GodDamnMike on Sep 28, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i know
i mean just him and Hardy training together and thats it? What an idiot he is
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This is fantastic news..........for Dan Hardy
Dude should have been learning wrestling about 4 fights ago.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Sep 28, 2011 12:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yes, first thing I thought as well.
I believe it’s probably news that Hardy is going to Tristar to train sometimes.
by theworldismine on Sep 28, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Should have learned it 20 fights ago
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 28, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But it wasn’t obvious until 4-5 fights ago. I don’t know how you start climbing the WW latter without knowing you will one day have to fight either Kos, Fitch, Hughes (at the time) and/or GSP for the title. Crazy.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Sep 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm telling you guys one more time,
GSP has one or two fights left in the welterweight division. Teaching Hardy some wrestling moves is just another proof of that.
Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.
Im not seeing your logic.
You think Hardy is making another run at the title with a few months of wrestling training from GSP? I’m not seeing it. I doubt GSP is ever molding Hardy into anything spectacular.
You mind your own damn business.
by jestermarcus on Sep 28, 2011 9:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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