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Larry Merchant respects Dana White for 'making a multimillion dollar business out of street fighting'

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What, you thought this was over? Silly little MMA fan!

Crumbling commentator Larry Merchant, who according to UFC President Dana White is senile and out of his mind, respects what the Las Vegas-based fight promoter has done in his short time as leader of the mixed martial arts movement.

After all, he made a multimillion dollar business out of street fighting and turned it into a so-called sport. At least that's what Merchant told Chris Robinson at Boxing Scene:

"Let’s see, anyone who can make a multimillion dollar business out of street fighting has to be respected. My opinion is that anyone is allowed to put up a tent, put on a show, and invite people to come. And obviously he’s had a lot of success. Good for him. I don’t watch it. I don’t get a so-called sport in which you can have a 6-2 record and be called a world champion. I just don’t appreciate the finer points of MMA. It’s a free country. I’m a commentator, and if I’m commenting and observing on others than how can I not be open to others observing and commenting on me?"

So what's the beef between these two?

Star-divide

White, a lifelong boxing fan, came out swinging against Merchant when the aging analyst interrogated Floyd Mayweather following his controversial win over Vitor Ortiz at the "Star Power" pay-per-view earlier this month.

The situation with Mayweather escalated to the point where Merchant, on air, was asking for a time machine to go back and "kick his ass."

Have a look:

Well Maniacs, what say you? Should White mind his own business? Or does he have a right to cheer and jeer his favorite sports just like any other die-hard fan?

Thoughts?

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Current MMA Record: 1-40-0

by CenturyCity90067 on Sep 27, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

^^QUEER^^

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 27, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 27, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

take that dumb shit somewhere else

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha...

Aww, that is refreshing.

Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great

I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name

by Starr788 on Sep 27, 2011 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

As you can see, we dont take kindly to the whole "First" BS

Why don’t you just find your way over to BE before you hurt yourself.

You mind your own damn business.

by jestermarcus on Sep 27, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It really should have never been.

He’s probably 13.

You mind your own damn business.

by jestermarcus on Sep 27, 2011 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Seriously dude

I’ll cut you some slack if you’re new and all, but at least make an actual comment about the thread. Then maybe you could play it off like the “first” was in sarcasm. Just saying.

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Sep 27, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's not new

that’s the sad part

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The sad part is, all of you crying are just jealous of his firsthood.

by TTB on Sep 27, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I post first

And you guys cry like little girls yet I should go back to BE? Aren’t we being a little sensitive?

You guys really showed me. Thanks P-Dub, Jester, Mistaken.

Current MMA Record: 1-40-0

by CenturyCity90067 on Sep 27, 2011 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

firstCenturyCity

QUEER!

JDS is no slouch on the ground,remember he submitted CroCop-Franklin McNeil

by OilCheck on Sep 27, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I don’t get how a guy can run up a 34-0 professional record while fighting nothing but street bums and human punching bags and be considered a title contender.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 27, 2011 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

haha wicked point

MMA Mania Pool Season 4 - UFC 134 Event Winner.....hey its better than most of you did...

by Newfie3 on Sep 27, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny this guy says retard among other things but above someone says queer

And it’s automatically take that shit somewhere else . Hahaha

by wooly shambler on Sep 27, 2011 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They weren't hating on the person that said queer.

They were hating on the person that said “first.”

Posting “first” is douche thing to do. You only do so because you seek attention and you have no other way to get it on this site.

One month sig bet with TheDragon on Cain vs. JDS
Cain Train ftw

by Armando Baez on Sep 27, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

^^ This

I’d rather be called retarded or queer than be the guy who says “first”

I think you're pretty tough....don't I?
Daffy Duck

by Scottidog on Sep 27, 2011 10:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Please try to keep up.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 27, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You ready Wooly???

reply back to me when ready and I’ll lay it out for you….

Greatest P4P fighter in the world......Cain Velasquez. Know it, Learn it, Live it.

AKA > Black House

by kg12 on Sep 27, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless of who you're fighting...

If you whoop on 34 dudes consecutively you have to be good…keep it real!

Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great

I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name

by Starr788 on Sep 27, 2011 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

even...

travis fulton?

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 27, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL.

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Sep 27, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That guy just enjoys fighting

"I started out with a hundred tapes, if you wasn't down then get the fuck out my face" - South Park Mexican

by antone04 on Sep 27, 2011 10:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

no doubt

but i wouldn’t say he’s that good though

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 27, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

not at all

"I started out with a hundred tapes, if you wasn't down then get the fuck out my face" - South Park Mexican

by antone04 on Sep 27, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not following?

lol it’s late here

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 27, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude, no

do not start feeding this troll again

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

why what happened?

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 27, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's surprising that he hasn't started in this thread but he really is just a troll

the last boxing related thread on the site was turned into a 500 plus comment thread because he just kept trolling everyone and they kept buying into it. he originally tried to troll in the Mayweather/Ortiz results thread but there weren’t enough people there that night so he failed.

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I made one comment

I love boxing, so yeah I’m gonna defend it and post about it, you are mistaken

"I started out with a hundred tapes, if you wasn't down then get the fuck out my face" - South Park Mexican

by antone04 on Sep 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol alright

easy there boys

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 27, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

A guy could become great at fighting cans

But as soon as you put him in against actual great fighters, he shows his true skills.

You mind your own damn business.

by jestermarcus on Sep 27, 2011 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

when did we start talking about Fedor?

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

When the convo switched to how much your mom loves getting pounded, in a fedor-like manner.

I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.

by Chorongota on Sep 27, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

a momma joke? and a weak one at that.

try harder bro. take a break and think about it for while. come back in a hour or so if you have something better.

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont...

hangs head in shame…

I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.

by Chorongota on Sep 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how someone can be called the most dangerous man in the world

when I could take him down n’ beat his ass

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, I sort of respect his post here but not really lol.

He admits he just doesn’t get it while at the same time he is being very judgmental and negative.

"I have come to believe that a great teacher is a great artist
and that there are as few as there are any other great artists.
Teaching might even be the greatest of the arts
since the medium is the human mind and spirit."

by Edgecrusher71 on Sep 27, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I respect my used up toilet paper more

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does have a point.

I will not lie, although, I don’t like him.

Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great

I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name

by Starr788 on Sep 27, 2011 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What point?

That a guy came into a sport early and fought top guys and won the title?

So that isnt being a real world champ but if he took 20 fights vs nobodies and went 20-0 then won a world title thats being a real world champ?

by Aldo27 on Sep 27, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's right..Chael Sonnen is 4-4 in the UFC..just lost a title fight, and is now fighting in a number 1 contender fight AGAIN

What does that say about your sport…when a guy is 4-4 in the organization, just lost a title fight, and is 1 fight away from another title fight?

It demeans title fights..he’s completely right…some guys like fitch have to win like 8 fights in a row to get a shot, and then win another 8 in a row to get another shot…but some guys can go 4-4 and get 2 shots….

UFC is fucked up…

sigs are gay

by HellaHectic on Sep 27, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

both sports can be full of shit

i think being the ufc champion is way more legit than being a boxing champion, in the case of chael and fitch your right, its bullshit when you look at it that way, but in boxing its three times as worse, too many champions and too many champions not fighting each other

"I started out with a hundred tapes, if you wasn't down then get the fuck out my face" - South Park Mexican

by antone04 on Sep 27, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It says a lot

It says you don’t need a padded bullshit 30-0 record before anyone in the sport gives you the time of the day.

Its a system that rewards fighters who go out and put it on the line when they compete. Fight hard and good things will happen.

Its a system that does mean a fighter’s career isn’t completely over should they lose. Its a system that recognizes it only takes ONE PUNCH (or submission) to finish a fight which doesn’t mean the loser needs to be taken out behind the barn.

Basing an opinion on a fighter’s win/loss record is such a blinders on boxing-centric high horse mentality and completely ignorant.

But I suppose it works for boxing since you could amass said 30-0 record fighting every weekend for a year fighting cans in backrooms, handed one of 175,000 belts available from 150,000 promotions, marketed as some kind of world beater so whenever someone more marketable comes along who actually has potential you are fed to them like wood to a chipper never to be heard from again which is okay since all a promoter has to do is throw and stick and he’ll hit like 172 ‘boxers’ ready willing and able to be the next 30-0 can as anyone who has ever laced up boxing gloves and can throw a punch could be considered.. a boxer.

The fact Chael Sonnen lost his title fight, despite a dominant performance against the champ, is getting another shot could also allude to the fact the sport is so difficult and demanding there are few worthy of fighting the champ unlike boxing’s 17 world champions. In other words there is very little room for cans.

Either way Larry Merchant’s opinion on MMA should be considered for what it is. A outsider perspective on something he doesn’t understand which is competition to what he’s supposed to understand. Boxers don’t seem to respect Larry’s point of view, mainly courtesy of Larry’s antics.. So why should we?

If it works for you HellaHectic.. all the power to ya bub.

by ArmChairMMA on Sep 27, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

“..Its a system that does mean ..” should be “doesn’t mean” muh bad ;)

by ArmChairMMA on Sep 27, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is just insane!

There is no UFC champion with a 6-2 record.

One month sig bet with TheDragon on Cain vs. JDS
Cain Train ftw

by Armando Baez on Sep 27, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

you are right

but Brock was like 4-1 and was one

MMA Mania Pool Season 4 - UFC 134 Event Winner.....hey its better than most of you did...

by Newfie3 on Sep 27, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

title shot with a 2-1 record

MMA Mania Pool Season 4 - UFC 134 Event Winner.....hey its better than most of you did...

by Newfie3 on Sep 27, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he won the title on his 8th fight, fastest in history.

But fack Leon Spinx, let’s never mention him again.

Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great

I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name

by Starr788 on Sep 27, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I take it Merchant never heard of Veerapol Sahaprom...

…who won the WBA Bantamweight Title in his 4th professional fight.

TFK

Check out the MMA Forums at http://www.boxingfanatics.com/forums/f24/

by TFK on Sep 27, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess not

attakdog

by attakdog on Sep 27, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone heard of verap...oh fuck that

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have

But you’re missing the point.

TFK

Check out the MMA Forums at http://www.boxingfanatics.com/forums/f24/

by TFK on Sep 27, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would hope you did since you posted his name

and since you obviously fell off the common sense bus…

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Says the guy who missed the point completely

That’s ok though. Enjoy the rest of your day.

TFK

Check out the MMA Forums at http://www.boxingfanatics.com/forums/f24/

by TFK on Sep 27, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You carried yourself well Mr. Merchant.

Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great

I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name

by Starr788 on Sep 27, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Exactly

Still think it’s time for him to retire though

by jtc5150 on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I usually respect other peoples opinions and give folks the benefit of the doubt but

this guy lost me when he called mma a ‘so-called’ sport. Just out of retaliation to what dana white said.. Fuck merchant..

by dragonassault on Sep 27, 2011 10:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Old school boxing purists will never accept MMA

Once Pacquiao and Mayweather retire, they’ll no longer be able to argue boxing’s popularity and revenue. Maybe the Klitschkos, but don’t think they’re a draw outside of Europe.

by post-it note on Sep 27, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

This guy is a bit of a loon.

Not sure why anyone would care about what he says.

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 27, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Whenever I see this guy:

I can’t helpbut think of this guy:

by renegadebjj on Sep 27, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Where did you get that photo of Al Davis?

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 27, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

He carried himself well

once we have mma champions brought up like Ali by the masses it will be not seen as a pure sport. We don’t have an icon quite yet

NFL-Peyton,Brady,Starr,Unitas
MLB-Ruth,Mays,Ripkin
NHL-Gretzky
NBA-Jordan,Magic,Bird,
]Boxing-Ali

the sports younga nd hopefully they can do huge with dos santos-cain but i’ve read it before and i liked it..time to get rid of the cage.

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto

by Lesnar's striking coach on Sep 27, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes we do have an icon....you may remember he fought this weekend.

Yep, Jon Jones. this kid will transcend the sport.

If you want to educate yourself talk to Puck Head., he is Mania’s Sig Champion for a reason.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Sep 27, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's what i think too

He gets his chael sonnen and you will see the fans start to believe in him regardless of his ‘cocky’ ego

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto

by Lesnar's striking coach on Sep 27, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean by "he gets his chael sonnon"?

Like, a guy that will test him and take him into the deep waters?

Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great

I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name

by Starr788 on Sep 27, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like Jones and all...

But he’s not an icon yet…please don’t say these things

Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great

I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name

by Starr788 on Sep 27, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Yet, no?

the guy has smashed gatekeepers-legends-wannabes. If he ebats Evans in dominating fashion or finishes..the talk must start. Are we seeing the sports’s icon?

"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto

by Lesnar's striking coach on Sep 27, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he can teach GSP how to finish and the sport could have two icons.

Wouldn’t that just be great?

You mind your own damn business.

by jestermarcus on Sep 27, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

he wont be either u need a personality

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez...Anderson St. Pierre...scary

Jose Aldo and Anderson Silva are the only UFC champions that aren't wrestling-based strikers....they don't fit the norm....that's why they're so great

I refuse to believe Bubba Jenkins is a real name

by Starr788 on Sep 27, 2011 11:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Street fighting?

Who cares what this old fool thinks, he may not like it but he has to dig at it callign it street fighting, like they have no skill, like it isnt a sport.

I guess if we had mma fighters who fight 20 bums and go 20-0 and then win a meaningless title thats a real world champ but coming into a sport and fighting top guys right away and winning isnt being a real world champ.

by Aldo27 on Sep 27, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

It's common knowledge Merchant doesnt support MMA

but I gotta’ give Merchant credit for his response to Dana White’s negative comment about him…. touche’ Merchant…. ur a dinasour….

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Sep 27, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Larry Merchant and boxing.

Both dead within 5 years!

"Hey, you got knocked out in the 3rd round, what happened there?"

Well, it's still a little hazy, but I believe that other gentleman was punching me in the face, and then I fell over??

by tap or snap bons on Sep 27, 2011 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

nice!

I heard cream rises to the top of that chest tatto

by Nokimono on Sep 27, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It still deeply disturbs me that..

these boxing clowns are under the delusion that MMA is street fighting. Boxing is a discpline of MMA, if anything boxing is more akin to street fighting than MMA. I know I am being sensitive, but, its just hard to ignore how blantanly ignorant these folks are.

by ChuteLegend on Sep 27, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

When will you kids admit that this is street fighting.

by danago on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

When its in the street with no weight classes, rules and they bring in kids from the street who arent world class trained athletes.

by Aldo27 on Sep 27, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

as soon as you stop posting on this site and just go away

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boxing fans are so retarded, did you see the shit they said on that forum? that Larry could beat Dana’s ass, that he is so classy, yeah so classy he was interviewing a fighter and threatened him. Real classy.

Then they say how mma fighters have no skills etc, totally clueless idiots.

Anyway Brock was 1 fighter in a special circumstance with Randy being out and Mir/Nog being made with TUF for the interim title so Randy needed a fight, Brock was a big name he got the shot and won.

Ok but what about

Jones, Anderson, Edgar, GSP, Aldo and Cruz?

1 loss, 1 loss, 1 loss, anderson is like 30-5 or something right? GSP has 2 losses, Edgar with a loss, Cain is unbeaten.

by Aldo27 on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Merchant was just taking a shot at White for taking a shot at him

BUT it is well known Merchant doesnt get MMA nor does he support it….

"Did you know that if you mix equal parts
of gasoline and equal parts frozen orange juice
concentrate, you can make napalm?"

by THORAZINE on Sep 27, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

This has been played out so many times in history

Seriously, start a debate with musicians about which genre or “style” is real music. They (us) will go on for ever debating every possible angle. Starting with each generation dismissing the next. It’s not a perfect analogy, but it fits in the since that these boxing dinosaurs will NEVER see MMA as a legitimate sport. Truth is, the UFC, and MMA org’s don’t really seem to care, and I’m with them.

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Sep 27, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Merchant tries to get himself over at the expense of the talent.

He spews more shit in a concise manner at fighters after fights than Chael Sonnen does. He takes credibility away from boxing – and boxing has no credibility to lose at this point.

by Wonderjudas on Sep 27, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

He said he did not get it and so does not watch it.

Nothing wrong or offensive about that statement. A lot of people don’t get it when it comes to any sport.

About the 6-1 record etc….Does the UFC count fights that took place outside of the UFC? Sometimes.

The whole record thing is screwed and the business model is different than boxing. Larry probably does not know that, should he? probably.

by sb905 on Sep 27, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

He said he did not get it and so does not watch it.

well yeah, once you write it up like that and take it out of context then of course there is nothing wrong or offensive about the statement. But if you actually include his entire quote it becomes derogatory and offensive.

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right? Hey, remember that time when Larry Merchant said that thing about MMA
I don’t get a so-called sport in which you can have a 6-2 record and be called a world champion.

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Sep 27, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you a short bus rider?
“Let’s see, anyone who can make a multimillion dollar business out of street fighting has to be respected. My opinion is that anyone is allowed to put up a tent, put on a show, and invite people to come. And obviously he’s had a lot of success. Good for him. I don’t watch it. I don’t get a so-called sport in which you can have a 6-2 record and be called a world champion. I just don’t appreciate the finer points of MMA. It’s a free country. I’m a commentator, and if I’m commenting and observing on others than how can I not be open to others observing and commenting on me?”

there’s the complete quote. and hey, look, holy shit, when you include the entire quote, instead of taking a single sentence out of context, then it’s nothing but derogatory and offensive.

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude...I'm agreeing with you 100%

My sarcasm didn’t bleed through. My point was, that one sentence tells you exactly how he feels, and of course it negative.

Secretly…I’ve always wanted a ride on the short bus

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by Jrandolph on Sep 27, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point being

He referred to mma as a “so called sport”

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Sep 27, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit, my bad, I completely misread that

I’m sorry for that and for the unnecessary insult I threw out there too. thanks for taking it and replying the way you did.

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Merchant's dead wrong

I just do not understand why anybody could not appreciate the brilliance behind mma. We have the most highly tuned athletes of any sport. In order to be successful in mms, one must be incredibly conditioned both aerobically and anaerobically, flexible, agile, strong, smart (you have to have a counter, stance, and move prepared no matter how your opponent stands, strikes, or shoots) and have tremendous heart. The reason that someone can be 6-2 and be a world champion is because our athletes don’t fight with pillows on their hands

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by Josh H. on Sep 27, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Who cares what Merchant thinks, even most boxing fan don't like his opinions on boxing

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by Puck Head on Sep 27, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

^ this, boxing fans don’t give a fuck what Larry Merchant or Bob Arum think. Give me a quote from someone who knows their shit like Roy Jones, Kellerman or Emanuel Stewart.

by BlaiseBlaise on Sep 27, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear mmamania,

please stop posting up threads in a pathetic attempt to polarize forum members. it’s pretty clear at this point your writing team takes the stupidest quotes from some of the stupidest people in boxing all for the sake of creating an argument. Engaging in a boxing vs mma debate is one of the hugest wastes of time on this planet. Anyone who is objective can clearly appreciate both sports and not take the narrow minded stance of saying one is far superior to the other. What Pacquiao does is just as impressive as what Anderson Silva does, there’s no real discussion to be made.

by BlaiseBlaise on Sep 27, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see an argument

He said “I just don’t appreciate the finer points of MMA.” That means that he acknowledges there are finer points and that he just doesn’t know/understand them. I think baseball is a great example. Some people love it, some people hate it and think it’s boring. They don’t understand how there can be set plays in baseball. The ones that love it understand those finer points of the game. I think that’s more where he was going. I don’t see anything to be pissed off about or anything to debate. It was a great answer from Merchant.

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by HonkeyKong on Sep 27, 2011 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

what about the sentence before that where he refers to mma as a "so-called" sport?

Statistics show suicidal people are a hundred percent more likely to kill themselves.

You know, some days I forget that I have a memory.

by I.AM.miSTAKen on Sep 27, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought about that. If you take it in context with the rest of the article I don’t think it’s a big deal. He says that before he admits that he doesn’t understand the sport. And “so-called” or not, he has a bit of a point. I’m still pissed Brock got a title shot after beating Herring and losing to Mir. To me that discredits the sport more than anything. A world champion that is 2-1 is pathetic. That’s a Strikeforce champion’s record, not what I expect out of the largest promotion on the planet. That’s besides the point though. With all the stupid shit Larry Merchant says if he was trying to be a dick I think it would have come thru much clearer. I think he was actually trying to tap out on this Dana fued to tell the truth.

King Kong ain't got nothing on me!

by HonkeyKong on Sep 27, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Timing is everything.

Brock is mid 30’s, has a huge name and is an amazing athlete who is 280lbs. Brock ran over Heath Herring and threatened to pound Frank into the floor before being submitted. Brock also only has a small window of opportunity and comes with a hefty price tag.

No other contenders were in a position to fight Randy so why not put Brock in and see what happened? If records are to be the be all and end all of a fighter’s worthiness then Randy should of handled Brock pretty easily no?

2-1 isn’t much to be sure but neither is 20-1 fighting a bunch of cans. Brock won a fight in the UFC and threatened a second. MMA is a sport where it only takes one punch or sub to turn the sport on its ear.

Fortunately the current and next generations of fighters will come with large records courtesy of growing up fighting though now and then to be sure some shining star will rise out of no where now and then.

by ArmChairMMA on Sep 27, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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