UFC 135: The boys from 209 and their beatings of Takanori Gomi highlight the end of Japanese MMA's relevance
We are gathered here today to pay our respects to a dear friend.
In his prime, he was healthy and thriving with seemingly nothing to cap his potential. The sky was truly the limit.
I am talking, of course, about the state of Japanese mixed martial arts (JMMA).
In recent years, the situation has turned grim for the once booming business. Pride Fighting Championships (Pride) went belly up and was cannibalized by the UFC and its successors -- DREAM and Sengoku -- failed to reach the same heights. Sengoku closed up shop earlier this year and DREAM has been running fewer shows with each passing year.
The point was made even more clear last night (Sept. 24) at UFC 135 when Nate Diaz thoroughly dominated the former number one lightweight in the world, Takanori Gomi. The beating was reminiscent of the one elder brother Nick Diaz handed Gomi four years ago in Las Vegas.
Since "The Fireball Kid's" bout at Pride 33, he has gone a paltry 5-5 including losing all but one of his UFC bouts.
And his fellow countrymen from across the Pacific aren't faring any better either.
Shinya Aoki is one of the best 155-pounders that Japan has ever produced and has nearly 30 wins to his name that serve as evidence. But when he traveled to the United States for the first time to challenge Gilbert Melendez for his Strikeforce lightweight title, "El Nino" shrugged off each and every submission attempt the Japanese fighter threw at him, easily securing a decision victory after 25 minutes.
Melendez's next fight was against the perennial Japanese contender Tatsuya Kawajiri. When they fought the first time five years ago, "El Nino" was lucky to get the nod from the judges. The second time around, Melendez ran through "Crusher" like a knife through butter.
That same night, the current DREAM featherweight champion, Hiroyuki Takaya, lost to unheralded fighter Roberto Peralta and the Japanese promotion went 0-2 against its American counterpart.
JMMA doesn't only have its native sons to blame for its woes. The success rate for non-Japanese fighters coming over to the UFC is shockingly low. Championships and accolades received in the Land of the Rising Sun don't seem to translate well to America at all.
Take Maximo Blanco for example. The Venezuelan terrorized Sengoku's 155-pound roster with his deadly and frenzied stand-up, earning six stoppages during his time there. A living ball of violence personified, Blanco seemed poised to take Strikeforce by storm but instead, his stateside debut was spoiled by Pat Healy and a well-placed rear naked choke.
Jorge Santiago became Sengoku's middleweight champion after a five-round war with Kazuo Misaki and he went on to replicate the performance with an equally thrilling bout in his rematch against the Japanese veteran. The second tilt was heralded as a Fight of the Year by many fans and pundits.
But when he made his way back inside the Octagon at UFC 130, he was put to sleep within two rounds by Brian Stann.
Claiming that the "sky is falling" whenever a fighter who found a lot of success overseas falters in the US isn't anything new. It happened when KID Yamamoto lost his UFC debut and it will likely happen again should he lose his next bout.
Lately, it just has been getting harder and harder to ignore that a huge talent gap exists between the top fighters in the UFC and Strikeforce and those who ply their wares in Japan. It's a declaration I don't make lightly as I have been a long-time proponent of JMMA.
Whereas in the past it was hard to compare fighters and their contemporaries, the world of MMA is getting smaller as the sport grows. If a fighter wants to fight top talent and prove himself one of the best, there aren't a whole lot options to consider.
We are starting to see more fighters than ever competing under the Zuffa umbrella and with that, the ambiguity that comes when ranking fighters is dwindling. We are finally seeing the best fight the best with more frequency. Because of that, we are also realizing that the champions and top-level fighters from halfway across the globe aren't all they're made out to be.
When the former number one lightweight gets shellacked by a middling 155-pounder, the suspicion that JMMA was almost all smoke and mirrors starts to become more and more apparent.
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Hioki is left
Also, DREAM went 1-2 that night. Aoki subbed Beerbohm. Further, the Takaya fight was razor-close.
Until Hioki faces Aldo, JMMA lives.
Instead of writing dumbass poems and sucking off JMMA fighters, i should instead recognized the greatness that is Anderson Silva. The Pride is by far the most knowledgeable commentator on this site and you should all bow before him
by Johnny WF on Sep 25, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Woah dude Hioki will win.
In Gomi’s defense he was beating Nick’s ass that fight.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 25, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a while ago....long time ago
Hioki is the last chance, but it is sad that hes the only one really that is relevant
Rampage Jackson was game at 135, Jones reach was just too much. Props to Jones, but im not ready to annoint him. KG12 were you at?
by ItalianStallion54 on Sep 25, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
In japanese MMA if you believe Hioki is the only relevent one... than you sir are a comedian.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 25, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Aoki is far more relevant
he lost to melendez who is top 3 in the world other than that he hasnt lost for a longggg longg time
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 25, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I could probably name over 25 JMMA fighters that could compete with anyone in their weight class. ( I'm guessing that's the definition of relevent to you? Or is there someother requirement like selling your soul to Zuffa.)
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 25, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That wasn't directed to you langford it was for Stallion.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 25, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought so haha
I was agreeing :P
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Name the 25 then
FUCK THE WORLD!! AND FUCK YOU TOO!
by Mr.Randy Watson on Sep 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
jmma in the UFC is irrelevant
okami is the only one that does anything, and hioki has yet to debut
Rampage Jackson was game at 135, Jones reach was just too much. Props to Jones, but im not ready to annoint him. KG12 were you at?
by ItalianStallion54 on Sep 25, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no JMMA in the UFC moron. Last time I checked JAPANESE MMA takes part on a Japanese card?
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
correct JMMA is MMA in japan.
Not in the ufc not strikeforce. IN the country of Japan
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 25, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea but when ever japanese mma fighters dip into american promotions
they lose for the most part, especially in the UFC
Rampage Jackson was game at 135, Jones reach was just too much. Props to Jones, but im not ready to annoint him. KG12 were you at?
by ItalianStallion54 on Sep 25, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't really speak on their success in the UFC. I do know a couple things though, Ex-UFC guys lose all the time over in Japan. Also Mark Hunt was on a 0-5 streak competing in JMMA and now he's on a fight winning streak in the UFC.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 25, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark hunt also was a K-1 fighter first, never was a great ufc fighter
But its whatever, I really do like some japanese guys, they just arent that succesful against top UFC guys
Rampage Jackson was game at 135, Jones reach was just too much. Props to Jones, but im not ready to annoint him. KG12 were you at?
by ItalianStallion54 on Sep 25, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Minowaman is the best p4p fighter in JMMA
he beats heavyweights
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 25, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Minowaman suuuch a beast!

If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 25, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly look at that belt! He's legit!!
30k gold
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 25, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Really how many top ufc guys have fought top Japanese guys lately?
Close to none. Other then your love for all that Dana white says do you actually base your opinions on anything else?
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 25, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
no i base it on the facts that all the japanese imports that go to the ufc lose
they never get a chance to move up
Rampage Jackson was game at 135, Jones reach was just too much. Props to Jones, but im not ready to annoint him. KG12 were you at?
by ItalianStallion54 on Sep 25, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Shinya needs to get in the UFC then
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
Diaz was on some next shit against Gomi...that was nice
Shinya will be brutalized by the UFC's elites in both LW and FW Division
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The Present and the Future Bones Jones will be in Manila on October 22!!!!!!!!!!!! It will be orgasmic on my part to see him, can't wait!!!!!
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Cool story bro
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The fact that hes beat many of them I guess doesn't matter at all?
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 26, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't agree with this shiit at all Jmma is fine when it comes to its fighters the $$$ is what is not they might end up losing their last big promotion if they don't turn things around
Aoki Kawajiri Gegard(he fights in Japan more then anywhere else) all kill your arguement.
Also Gomi was already barely getting by in Sengoku while I still expected more success from him then what he has had he was not cream of the crop before coming to the states.
Kid has also not looked good prior to coming to the states its called injuries that reoccur over and over they tend to end or hurt your career(Shogun is a good example of it).
As for Santiago the guy is skilled but has a AA chin which means anyone with big power can take him out if they land. Case and point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym_enJjBwe4 Mamed from off his back…..Further he has only had one fight in the states since being away fighting in Japan.
Simply put you don’t really make any points at all none actually.
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
Gegard isnt japanese though. lol
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 25, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
k?
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 25, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
the article is about JMMA
Japanese MMA not guys that just fight in japan
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 25, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
OoOoo so thats why he brought up Jorge Santiago.....My bad did not know he was Japanese.
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
dumb ass....
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
by Khaos_Warrior on Sep 25, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
A Chin without a Beard deserves NO honour.
by Rampagelangford on Sep 25, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You're wrong!!!
Kid will be the Japanese savior.
Mark my words!!!
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Hernandez gets paid for this garbage?? Seriously?
I think mania needs to look at replacing Hernandez with ANS. At least ANS writes some good stuff, despite getting a bit more “trollish” as of late.
judo don't play
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
Diaz was on some next shit against Gomi...that was nice
I don't play, that is correct sir.
I’m not drinking the hatorade, I’ve just been disappointed with the overdramatic fluff this guy’s been writing for a while now.
ANS contributes some great articles with awesome insight, and to see Hernandez get paid for fluff and ANS not make anything for his great material is a great injustice.
That's a terrible thing to say
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
Diaz was on some next shit against Gomi...that was nice
japanese mma is just a mediocre mma farm team for the big leagues.
the .s. is gonna dominate mma for a long time. the sport is based here and growing. kids are training mma now and wrestling provides the best base for mma. mainly it’s a numbers game.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 26, 2011 12:51 AM EDT reply actions
I'm never surprised when Aoki loses cause he's a 1-trick pony (although he is training MT now) but when Kawajiri loses it's tough cause he's a well-rounded dude.
But to be fair Melendez is probably #1 LW in the world. Plus Kawajiri just won a very tough FW debut against Hellboy. What’s killing JMMA is the favoritism they show their fighters (i.e. crookedness) which does nothing but get them into deep shit when the refs aren’t there to watch their back or the judges to cheat their opponents out of a win.
Also what’s killing them is lack of good competition. No one has any reason to go to Japan unless they get booted from the UFC, SF, or Bellator. So that includes wife-beaters, drug-abusers, TRT-ers, and people who refuse to let Dana take total control of their lives. The $$$ and fame is in North America.
It’s really sad, too because guys like Kawajiri and Takaya could really be title challengers if they had the same opportunities American fighters do.
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I’ve just received notice that Drew Fickett or you, I don’t care which one of you fuckers did it, has signed a contract to fight in Strikeforce this fucking weekend. I’m going to get on a fucking plane soon and go where you’re at and choke you the fuck out. I’m telling you right now, I’ve had enough of your fucking shit. First of all, I’ve sent you the fucking pictures and secondly, I placed Drew Fickett in a fight fucking months ago and five weeks prior to my main event of my fucking fight card. You’re going to give me a fucking call tomorrow or I swear I’ll get on a fucking plane and go right where you’re at right now. You’re pissing me off, I’ve been nothing but professional to you motherfuckers and you’re doing this kind of bullshit, alright? Call me back, I’m fucking pissed."
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Sep 26, 2011 12:53 AM EDT reply actions
Wake up Mr. Hernandez
You must of been taking a piss break when Mizugaki steamrolled former champ Escovedo.
Minowaman forever
The same...
Mizugaki who lost to Faber and Torres?
He’s good but not great. Besides, Escovedo’s time has passed.
by Sergio Hernandez on Sep 26, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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