Mayweather vs Ortiz cheap shot: Dana White slams referee Joe Cortez, who says 'Money' did nothing illegal
by Jesse Holland on Sep 19, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
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Cheap trick?
Floyd Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz last Saturday night (Sept. 17) at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada, in a hugely controversial finish to the "Star Power" pay-per-view boxing event. Ortiz illegally headbutted Mayweather and after being deducted a point, chose to try to hug "Money" and apologize for his regrettable actions.
As he was backing away, Mayweather landed a vicious left-right combination that flattened Ortiz and won him the fight. It was all legal and well within the rules, but the fans in attendance and millions watching at home felt it to be terribly unsportsmanlike and a disappointing ending to a multimillion dollar match-up.
UFC President Dana White, a lifelong boxing fan, didn't blame Mayweather (via his official Twitter account), he blamed referee Joe Cortez:
"You can't blame the fighters. The ref is in there to stop that shit from happening! That is the worst ref'n I have ever seen in boxing EVER. Boxers are always going after each other the ref is in there to keep it safe, clean and from turning into a real fight!"
Cortez responds (via BoxingScene.com) after the jump.
"I had already ordered them to continue fighting and the clock was running, but Ortiz wanted to apologize again and he was off guard. Mayweather, who is more experienced, he took advantage, but did nothing illegal. Nowhere is there a rule that says the boxer has to apologize and hug the other fighter and do it at least two or three times. If you get ordered to fight and the clock is running, you have to fight. Ortiz's inexperience cost him the fight."
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What say you Maniacs? Is Cortez to blame for not sending the fighters to their corners to restart the fight? Or did he play it by the book and take the fall for the quick-hit ending?
To see a GIF of the controversial ending click here, then sound off in our comments section below.
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I would assume you have to send them to corners.
Then ask “are you ready” to each fighter and then resume fight. Is that not how they do it in boxing? Either way both fighters threw a cheap shot
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
by Ponch-Hoe on Sep 19, 2011 9:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Im pretty sure thats the exact rule
This is why boxing is a joke, theres always something ridiculous happening like that fight recently where the guy got hit in the nuts about 20 times yet the referee warned the other guy for one low blow or something I can’t remember their names…
but in title fights like these the referees negligence yet again fucks up a guys career and their record
A Chin without Beard deserves NO honour.
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 19, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Any gifs of the headbutt?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
by Ponch-Hoe on Sep 19, 2011 10:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
its an obvious headbutt , but still he got docked his point
A Chin without Beard deserves NO honour.
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 19, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Im not condoning that either..
The whole situation couldve been averted if this referee sent them to their corners and actually WATCHING the fighters
A Chin without Beard deserves NO honour.
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by Rampagelangford on Sep 19, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely condone headbutting mayweather. but yes they should have been sent to their corners it was ridiculous to watch
by steady2wheels on Sep 19, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
oh same here but he should have got a point deducted for how shit it was!
ffs u use ur forehead not top of the head.no power in that kind of headbutt.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
It's a tragedy really...
That fight was getting exciting…both fighters were bringing it…I feel bad for Ortiz because he had a great opportunity Saturday night and then things got weird.
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
So is the commission siding with the ref on this?
Are they reviewing it or anything or is it pretty clear. I’ve only seen Gifs
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
by Ponch-Hoe on Sep 19, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What Floyd did was within the rules set by the commission
…so nothing will happen…I don’t even think they’ll have a rematch
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
agreed
I don’t see Mayweather remnatching a KO’d opponent. Even ubder those circumstances. But, you never know. there are not too many fights left for him since he won’t ever fight Pac.
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I think he'll fight Pac next summer
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
i think you're wrong
he won’t ever fight pacquiao
pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this
Keep the faith and you shall see
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
It isn't Mayweather who is ducking Pacquiao.
Mayweather said he would fight Pac if he agreed to more rigorous drug testing. Pac won’t agree to those terms. So how is Mayweather the one stopping the fight if he thinks Pac is cheating and wants it to be fair?
Me - "Vitor is past his prime, A. Silva will knock him the f*ck out!"
Sittingbull - "Weak trolling man, and Vitor aint past his prime, you'll see tommorow night."
You know so much! Yeah, I saw didn't I?
Pac agreed to those terms. Then Mayweather kept adding them including the request for 100 million dollar purse.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I am sorry to say but at the very least Pac has to go all Ali on Mayweather. Call him out, call his dadddy out, call his mama. Say he would fight any mayweather not matter how young or how old.
He should say he would whoop the whole Mayweather family tree. Cut it down, re plant it and whoop it again just for kicks. Unfortunately he has to lower himself and denegrate Mayweather’s manhood. That could be the only way to get the fight going.
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It's not Mayweather's job to dictate the type of drug testing his opponents recieve...
That is the job of the commission. Mayweather’s job is to fight and run his mouth like an idiot. Leave regulating the sport to the people whose job it is.
agreed vhw
mayweather will always use the testing as the excuse.Anyone who doesnt think he orchestrated this to get out the back door is naieve to say the least
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
I believe they will use this who embarassing act as fuel to fire up the rematch
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, he won't rematch him
There is no need. Ortiz is a nobody. When he retires he will be most known for hugging Mayweather and then getting knocked the fuck out.
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by ViolentMike on Sep 19, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He will be also known as the guy who had a legendary scrap with undeafeated Berto.
But this is an easy sell. This makes more money for Floyd then any fight other then Pac.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Your right about the props to Ortiz, he definitely isn't a nobody.
But on your other point, Floyd makes crazy bank no matter who he fights.
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not true. He doesnt want crazy bank he wants the most money.
The most money now is Pac and Ortiz.
He makes significantly less if he fights anyone else.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
ANS you're talking ish, Floyd mad 40+ mil for his fight against Marquez
Someone who everyone said was a nobody.
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He would make more in a rematch vs Ortiz and Pac.
And the reason he made so much is because the nobody was paid 3 million which means the split was outrageous. Floyd made all the money.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Victor got his highest payday he's not complaining
And Floyd made that much because he’s built his name for the last 10 years, people come to see him fight…he is quite possibly the biggest draw in combat sports…Pac is close though
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 12:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
pacs a bigger draw
mayweathers biggest fights numbers wise have been because of the opponent
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Haha yeeeeeah eh? Is that so?
So people were more interested in seeing Ortiz, Mosely, Marquez, Hatton, etc.? Haha…please scott, don’t say these things…I think the last person to make more than Floyd against Floyd was Oscar…hmm so I doubt it!
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hatton could seel out an arena shadowboxing
his following is huge! u telling me he had nothing to do with it.my point is his biggest fights have had as much to do with the following of the opposition.he got 325,000 fighting baldomir.pacman fighting another nobody Clottey did 700,000.gtfoh.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Clottey is more relevant than Baldomir
Come on now…any other examples?
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's a low quality video....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDzgGGsBRMQ&feature=related
The ref does break them up initially but then isn’t paying attention when the first punch is thrown. Seems like there’s no clear signal for them to re-engage.
Not very sportmanslike but I’d be pissed too if I was headbutted like that.
That's just terrible.
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look
at what he’s trying to do in a boxing match and people feel bad for ortiz really the hate for money is strong in here
hate
how can u like mayweather really did you watch 24/7 all 4 of them,the butt was fuck all it didnt cut him it didnt stop the fite he lost a point he said sorry. mayweather holding using his elbow what about that,the worst thing was how mayweather whined like a girl to the ref then he king hit ortiz when he wasnt looking cmon whats wrong with all you people how can you condone that shit in a world title fite rules or no fucken rules its about dignity you dont do that its not about anything at all cost karma will get that fucka
holy shit
even straight after the headbutt, he still blocks the next punch perfectly. What a boxer.
Steady like a river flow
Not in boxing
They don’t send fighters to their corners or ask if they are ready, in most cases. Usually, they just separate them and tell them to start again. That being said, Dana is exactly right. You can’t blame Mayweather for being upset after catching a head butt and taking advantage of an opportunity to end the fight. Joe Cortez should have retired 10 years ago and if you watch the replay, he didn’t even see the first punch thrown. Horrible ref.
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by KillaKaru on Sep 19, 2011 10:23 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
But he didnt even seprerate them
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
wwemania
Ortiz attempted the most exaggerated head butt of all time floyd took the cheapest shot ever cortez played the part of a distracted/unaware ref and merchant kept the drama rolling. Unreal. Unbelievable. A series of events that compounded into a dramatic finale. Pathetic. Disgraceful. Boxing is desperate and too eager for attention. Jesus H christ have mercy
by talkfight on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You act like a bitch, you get treated like a bitch.
I’m not a Mayweather fan, and never will be. But I don’t find any fault in what he did. I was rooting for Ortiz when this fight began, but if it weren’t for his own foul, he’d have never been put in that situation in the first place. I’d love to see all fighters who intentionally foul get the same treatment.
Best comment ive seen
Either way Floyd was whoopin that ass 76-23 or something like that and it was only the 4th round
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Actually Floyd lost a round at that point possibly two of them.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
no
nobody gave Ortiz more than one round at that point.
Steady like a river flow
ANS, Cecil Peoples is a better judge than you.
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the ref did not control the action
Even when they hugged in the middle of the ring the ref should have been right there to seperate them and call the fight to continue
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by letter19 on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed 100%
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Two piece no biscuit
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
The better dirty fighter won saturday night
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol at best boxer ever (that'll always be Sugar Ray Robinson) but Ortiz did deserve it
He did a blatant headbutt because it was the only way he could actually land a strike on Floyd and then tried to maintain his good guy persona by hugging and apologising, serves him right even if it was a blatant cheapshot that the ref didn’t see because he wasn’t even looking.
And Floyd-Pacman will never happen, too many egos on both sides for that deal to ever happen. Which sums up the current state of boxing and why neither of them deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the GOATs of the past like Sugar Ray and the Raging Bull. The days of the best in the world fighting each other regularly are long gone.
It's official the B League is being dominated by the English. 171 points, top that one boys. Miles Austin is my hero and the Steelers DEF no longer suck.
The matter of who is the greatest boxer is subjective and always based on opinion.
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Unless it is boxing in which it is clearly Sugar Ray
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha if you say so!
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 1:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I lost respect for Ortiz big time.
I’m not a Mayweather fan, but I can’t be mad at him for what he did.
Real losers are the people that paid to watch it.
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Yeah it's unfortunate...
The few times that we get to watch a good boxing match, and this happens
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
I actually paid to watch it, and trust me the interview with Larry Merchant was worth the 70$ just there.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 19, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
That interview was the only reason I wasn't pissed off at wasting my money
Best thing about watching Pretty Boy Floyd is when he goes off on one at the interviewers.
It's official the B League is being dominated by the English. 171 points, top that one boys. Miles Austin is my hero and the Steelers DEF no longer suck.
Really? An sound byte that was on YouTube for free within minutes?
In that case, you want to buy a PS3 from me for $1000?
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He should have kept em up.
It’s that simple.
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Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'
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Save us Pac Man!
I just find it funny that Mayweather was going in for the hug as well knowing damn well what he was going to do. I’m still calling it a bitch move!
He doesn't really go for the hug...
Watch the replay that they show during the Merchant interview…when they come together he’s putting his guard up and when he sees Ortiz trying to hug it out look at his face…he’s almost like “wtf, yeah yeah, okay whatever”….but then he two pieces him pretty nastily
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You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
Ya I can see that.
but I’m sure that by Ortiz’s perspective, it looked like Mayweather was being excepting.
but in the end… who cares. If I payed for this fight, or was there, I would have been very pissed. There’s only one fight I care to see, but I don’t think it will ever come to fruition.
by Brotherwolf on Sep 19, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
It will..keep the faith...by next summer
I am positive Mayweather took this fight to get warmed up for Pacman
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
I say always treat your opponent in a sportsmanlike fashion in the ring or cage…until they react in an unsportsmanlike manner. What Ortiz did was horrible. In doing so he showed no respect for Mayweather or the rules of the sport; I don’t see why Mayweather somehow owed him what he refused to show Mayweather. If anyone should be blamed for the outcome of this fight, it’s Ortiz. He showed no respect; he got treated with no respect. But at least what Mayweather did was legal, on only in retaliation.
Haha...
You’re jokes…you can’t even make out that guys face, it’s just a black guy…all black guys look alike eh? Lol
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You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
wait but it really does look like hammer, he has the glasses!
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by theoregonduck on Sep 19, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
That was
my first thought too…lol.
by shootfirstaskquestionslater on Sep 19, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i didnt watch that fight
just saw the gif…that was fucked up
no you cant blame the fighters, but that was a fucking cheap shot by Mayweather though, big time
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The losers are the fans for sure because we saw a fight that was very possibly 2-2 should round 4 have ended. I am a very big Victor Ortiz fan and I will be the first to admit the head butt was dirty. But at the same time he was penalized for the illegal shot. Head bunts are like groin kicks in MMA. If it doesnt look bad they just warn, if it looks intentional or happens multiple times they take points.
What Floyd did was worse. He sucker punched someone. People can talk all they want about keeping your hands up and all that but Floyd knew he could get his cheap shots in and did. If he hadnt thrown those punches, Ortiz wouldnt have launched his own sucker punches. When the ref is handling out of the ropes business fighters just await their chance to hook them up again.
Floyd may have been well within the rules to launch those punches but he hampered his own possible highlight victory of the year and didnt help the claims that he could or would beat Pac. If anything he drew more attention to the fact that he is a dirty fighter. Who knows maybe it was Roid Rage because you know how could he move from 112 to a champion at 154 naturally?
And trying to clown on Larry Merchant? A veteran of the sport? I dont care if he has said harsh words about PBF in the past, that is his job to have opinions. Floyd tried to bully Mechant and was clowned. He came off as even more of a prick
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
Mayweather didn’t break ANY rules, he was right to do what he did. There’s no possible way 2 legal strikes are worse than a blatant headbutt. Ortiz is a cheat, don’t bring hugs to a fist fight. And don’t bring headbutts too, you cheat.
Head butts just like kicks to the groin whether blatand or not are part of boxing and MMA respectively, and they are usually consequences. Ortiz got his point deducted. Should he have hugged May at that point? Probably not but did Mayweather have to sucker punch him? Again probably not.
Ortiz showed he was dirty, May showed he was dirtier. And a has no sportmanship. Floyd didnt prove to anyone he was the best boxer in the world saturday night.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
No
Kicks to the groin are accidental, headbutts are not. You go out of your way to headbutt your opponent, it’s cheating.
Again, Mayweather didn’t sucker punch him. He punched him, legally and stopped him. That’s about it, Ortiz decided to hug in a fist fight and got beat.
Kicking to the groin has been intentional and point deductions have come. They seperate the fighters and let them fight on.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I AGREE WITH DANAGO!
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To prove how much of an ingrate you are. Ortiz got deducted for his cheap shot, Mayweather got a win for his. How you can justify one wrong with another sums up the sad mentality of most people in the world today.
by Gargamel on Sep 19, 2011 12:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Better dirtier fighter won unfortunately
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
2-2? lmao, yeah okay.
Floyd won the first 3 rounds.
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by MMA Boss on Sep 19, 2011 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Arguably lost the first. Its called an opinion, and I am not the only who believes it could have been 2-2 or 3-1
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
3-1 maybe
but Floyd landed 3 times as many punches than Ortiz and it was only the 4th round!
Ortiz got frustrated because he couldn’t hit him and was taking shots himself.
So he got dirty and went for a cheap shot.
He pissed Floyd off with an illegal headbutt and got KTFO – rightfully so.
Ortiz had no business being in the ring with Floyd.
This was probably the best possible outcome for Ortiz
It was either that or get dominated for about another 8 rounds, if not KO’d
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Very untrue.
A young fighter in this level of high profile fight often will feel out of his element and succumb early. He is a hungry fighter that gets gritty as the fight wears on. Also a brawler like Victor becomes successful as the fight gets deeper and his power shots become more dangerous as fighters drop their defense even if slightly as they naturally do after several rounds. He also has a good chin with unreal power which in flurries make him dangerous in any round.
To say he didnt belong there is ridiculous when you really start to think about it. He beat Berto who was undefeated and a champion, he knocked down every single opponent he had ever faced. His two losses were due to a DQ when he KO’s someone off a break and when he had a fight stopped due to cuts. He had every right to fight that night.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
He had NO BUSINESS being in the ring with Floyd
Why the headbutt?
If the fight was tied or as close as you say why the headbutt?
Dude couldnt land clean on floyd for 10 minutes and got frustrated.
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And who are you to say he does or doesnt belong in there? he was a champion who had quality wins on his record.
Only he knows why he headbutted
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 19, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta agree with you here ANS
Ortiz was fresh off a victory over Berto and Floyd was challenging for his belt…People always write off a fighter’s victory when the fighter is great, and hmmm…black…think Anderson Silva…he fights cans right. Disgusting
Roger Mayweather is the best corner man in combat sports! "Keep backing that bitch up. When we get down the stretch we'll really tap that ass!" Haha words of inspiration right there...
You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mayweather actually outclassed Ortiz, who was frustrated enough to attempt one of the most egregious headbutts I can remember. Mayweather could have taken the high road and come out of the situation wearing the white hat. But that’s not Floyd Mayweather’s way. Instead, he tested the time honored boxing tradition requiring both men to protect themselves at all times. Mayweather was fighting. Ortiz was hugging. That was the difference.
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to aintnosunshine
i agree with you brother 100% you speak with truth and knoledge and i respect that im a fan of victor ortiz and he has earnt my respect and deserves it best fighter ive seen since tyson and i dont give a fuck what colour u r reality is in seeing hes a special kid destined i think if he continues and i think he will if mayweather has any sort of god in him like he sais"fucken joke" hell give this kid a rematch and i tell ya if he does im comn to vegas for the fite to see mayweather get beat.
3-1 plus a point deduction
You keep forgetting the point deduction. So best case scenario Ortiz was down 3 points after 4 rounds.
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mate i cant believe i found someone who speaks the truth i agree with everything you said im an ex boxer fought for my country as an amauter and still train at home and i love the sport i first seen ortiz fite against viv harris and i thought after seeing the fite and then hearing him speak to larry merchant what a nice kid something you dont c these days then i seen the berto fite and wow i said to myself this kid is special,i was so pissed after what mayweather did i had a knot in my guts for 2 days i had faith in this kid to beat that braggn loudmoth who thinks hes so fucken good and yeh he is good but after what he did the other nite has wiped me,to me he that 4th round and thru what i saw victor was trying to work him out and in the 4th he started to he made him miss e few times and he landed solid a coupl times,mayweather kept hold an that elbow bullshit should b totally ilegal when mayweather felt the power i think he took the cheap and cowardly way out to me i never heard cortez start the fite properly and mayweather jesterd to shake hands and then when the ref is looking at the time keeper or something boom i couldnt believe he wasnt dq then cortez just starts counting im like get the fuck outa here are these cunts for real,bring on the fucken rematch brother!!!!!!!!!!!
2-2?
it was 3-1 if nto 4-0
Did you look at the score?
76-23
Thats no 2-2- bud
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You call it a sucker punch. I call it catching the young buck slipping. But he was very gracious in defeat. What Floyd did was definitely not good for the game, I'll be the first to admit that. That fight had the potential to be great. Ortiz was definitely game, even though he was getting lit up. To say Floyd is ducking anyone is silly. When they fight, and they will (brilliant fight hype going on for the last couple years) I will video bet anyone that truly stands behind their words.
by Starr788 on Sep 19, 2011 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
confirmed
Mayweather is a no class bum just like we thought he was. He’s a punk and anyone who condones this sort of thing doesn’t know the meaning of sportsmanship.
by Gargamel on Sep 19, 2011 12:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
confirmed What
that ortiz is a dirty fighter as wel that couldent d any thing in the fight so the stared to fight dirty and give a man hug ’s and kisses like B while he knew what he was trying to do
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If you didn’t know anything about either of these two fighters you would ultimately come to the conclusion May won legally, and that Ortiz’ actions were illegal. Cortez was definitely part of the unfavorable outcome but watching the replay he clearly said “okay let’s go” and the reason he was looking off to the side was to make sure the time was in; he didn’t expect yet ANOTHER hug after he had already said “okay let’s go”. Not only that, but when you watch the different angles of the replay you can clearly see Ortiz wasn’t stunned after the left hook and elected to look at the referee for circumvention rather than put his guard up for the second punch. So if the basic argument here is that Floyd “sucker punched” Ortiz during a boxing match — I didn’t know sucker punching during a fight was possible, then that sentiment is clearly negated by the fact that Ortiz could’ve put his guard up for the second punch which was the one that flattened him. For Ortiz’ inaction, he has nobody to blame but himself. Next time put your hands up, don’t look at the ref for help. In addition to all of the above, it’s pretty clear Ortiz threw that headbutt because he was frustrated he couldn’t land cleanly on Mayweather. The ironic thing in all of this is that if Ortiz didn’t turn this into ideological warfare injected with the self-righteous indignation of him being the “good guy” then he wouldn’t have had the same amount of pressure that ultimately led to him playing the role of the dirty boxer against Floyd. He build it up in his mind to be a certain way and that’s because Floyd got to him pre fight.
dont
Try to justify parking lot rules in boxing. I’d expect this sort of thing outside a bar or after school. At a professional sporting event no. People that argue this case are the same guys that sucker punch people while they’re not looking or bring 3 of their friends to fight one guy. I don’t condone the headbutt, but let the ref and the judges handle the situation. This is why I don’t follow boxing anymore.
by Gargamel on Sep 19, 2011 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cortez
Cortez lost focus at the crucial moment. Things were heating up, you need to have them in the neutral corner, deduct the point then check with the time keeper before calling them to center ring to resume action. There was confusion because the ref spaced out and Ortiz followed suit. Mayweather kept his focus and continued fight. We’d like to borrow Dana White for a spell as head of a special committee to set Boxing straight, he’s a get it done kinda dude. AHH !! wishful thinking.
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