UFC Quick Quote: Dan Henderson clowns hapless Internet troll
by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 1:43 PM EDT
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"Skooter, the difference between you and me is that while you sit at your computer and make ignorant statements while hiding behind an anonymous screen name, I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I've been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson's nuts? Tell me where you work so I can come watch, and whenever you have a bad day I'll demand that you get fired with no opportunity to redeem yourself. Sound fair? I've gone 6-1 since the Anderson fight, with wins in three weight classes against world-class competition. Considering my recent success along with my career accomplishments, I think I've pretty much earned the right to call out anyone in the world--and I believe I've demonstrated over the course of my career that I have a better than average chance of beating whomever it is I choose to call out. Whether you like it or not, Anderson and his management have done their best to avoid a rematch. I think I've proven myself worthy to face him again, and if he believes I'm such an easy fight, why not take the payday? I would not have left the UFC if it wasn't obvious that Anderson was avoiding a second fight, and he's doing it again."
Incoming! Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion Dan Henderson drops an H-bomb on a silly little Internet troll, who tried to get loud on The Underground and tell "Hendo" he did nothing to earn a rematch against reigning middleweight champion Anderson Silva. As you can see from the above retort, Henderson makes a fairly convincing argument, but can he leapfrog some of the other top contenders en route to another 185-pound title shot? Anyone picking Chael Sonnen or Brian Stann over the former PRIDE fighter? Join in the debate, Maniacs.
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You reading, trolls?
Dan is the man.
"In a sport dominated by wrestlers, a striker is the best." -Lesnar's striking coach
3-0-1 when it comes to sig bets
we know the fighters are
but not many of them have the time or desire to respond. Gotta love Dan’s response there.
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by ScrapPackBackAgain on Sep 15, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
While I like most of what Dan said here...
I still think he’s a joke for pretending that Anderson is ducking him and thinks it’s crazy that he expected him to turn around for Nov 12 right after he fought Okami. He has a legit injury so it makes me think that he wants to make sure Andy isn’t %100 so he can have a better chance like Chael did. It’s not like the first fight was that close. Dan got him down and laid in half guard landing baby hammer fists and disrupting his breathing… wow! 2nd he tried to take him down again but Andy avoided it and came out fired up like he usually does after the first few min of the fight. He rocked Dan on the feet and beat him on the ground. Hendo said himself that he was done at 185.
Last time he fought there he lost to the 170 lb Shields. I’d rather see him against Shogun or Machida cause I don’t see the Andy fight going any different plus those new match ups are better for him and ones we haven’t already seen.
by Chuck LiNasty on Sep 15, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan is the ONLY 185er that has the power to KO Anderson...
Possibly Vitor…if he doesnt come in like a timid mouse.
But Chael put the Blueprint out there for everyone…
Dans style has been go after the son bitch lately…
He just goes after and starts swinging, whether its Feijao, Fedor, or whoever.
That is the only way Aderson is going to lose.
Vitor has the KO power but also the speed to catch him...
unlike Hendo. Plus his style is high clinch greco takedowns until double legs like Chael. Plus Chael cheated against an injured Silva and I doubt he’d even lay that so called blueprint down again like he did the first time. A rematch would most likely show this and I think he’s more deserving than Dan.
He swung like crazy in their first fight. Andy knows his distance better than Feijao and even Fedor I believe plus has the reach to keep it there. Let’s not forget the head movement. If Hendo caught him it would be because Andy made a mistake. This isn’t Bisping we’re talking about here. Hendo needs to fight Machida or Shogun instead cause it’s new and don’t think a Silva rematch is deserving just because he beat Fedor.
by Chuck LiNasty on Sep 15, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny boy is on TRT...
I was at Dan/Anderson and Dan/Palhares…
Palhares Outwrestled Danny Boy…
But thats not the point…
Dan does NOT double leg anyone!!!
Thats not GReco…
Also, I dont know if you have watched Dan lately …
The mothefucker just swings for the fence like Josh Hamilton and Knocks the son bitches out of the park…
Dan would just swing away at Anderson untilt the 1st was over…
Thats his >40 style!!!
Alot of people are on TRT but...
Dan’s levels didn’t spike way above normal come test time like Chael’s did and that’s the difference. That’s why Chael was punished and not Hendo.
You’re right, Dan doesn’t double leg but that IS Greco! What are you talking about? Even if the terms confuse ya we still saw the diff between his fight than with Chael’s against Silva. (Again, knowing that Silva had injured ribs could have played it’s part more so.)
Like I said before, he swung combo’s like at Andy… just saw the fight again recently. Doesn’t matter how hard he comes. Silva knows his distance too well, has the best head movement and timing and knows his distance too well. Watch how when Hendo was swing at him in the 2nd round Andy was picking him apart and didn’t even have to juke back cause he had him figured out like he does with everyone after the first few min to the 2nd round.
by Chuck LiNasty on Sep 16, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Machida would destroy him
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Don't think he'd do as good as Andy but...
at least it would be a new fight instead of a rematch.
by Chuck LiNasty on Sep 15, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I did provide plenty of facts along some speculation....
that anyone who isn’t an idiot could comprehend. Don’t make yourself look like a dumbass because you’re a Hendo fan and you don’t like what I said cause that in fact makes you look like the ignorant one and now I’ve embarrassed you for it. Just say you disagree and then say why instead of trying to act like what I typed wasn’t credible when it was. What were you really trying to accomplish with that dumb reply? You know it was a lose, lose for you right? Why don’t you just reply to everyone you don’t agree with and say generic stuff like “you’re stupid” or even the classic mindless come back… “that’s gay”. Would be about as credible as what you tried here. Come back when your ass heels if you want to give me a real reply by admitting I make logical point but pointing out where exactly you disagree. Or we could do more immature trash talk which you won’t win either. lol
by Chuck LiNasty on Sep 15, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed completely.
And I’m glad you addressed the common misconception that Hendo avoided his wrestling in the 2nd round. He did indeed attempt a takedown and fail to get it. The other main excuse on his behalf is that he gassed, which is also pretty weak. Conditioning’s a part of every sport, so maybe he should take his own advice and avoid 185. If that becomes the case, it’s asking a lot for Silva, who won the first match convincingly and remains middleweight champ, to jump up a class and appease Hendo’s wishes. I mean, he owes him nothing really. And I’m fully aware Silva has fought at 205 before, but it’s out of his comfort zone and should only be pursued for a grand opportunity, not a lukewarm rematch.
That leads me to my next point: rematches shouldn’t happen unless all other options are exhausted or there’s serious unfinished business. A 2nd round submission seemed pretty conclusive to me, so at the very least, let’s see Dan win a UFC middleweight fight and only then should we revisit the topic. Otherwise, take a fight with Machida or Shogun, as you suggested, and perhaps target Jon Jones instead.
So in summary, I took all this time to just say…I agree with you lol
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Of course you do cause you're smart! lol
That’s why Pickafight couldn’t hang when he picked a fight… boy can live up to his name but he must be a GSP fan cause he sure can’t finish a fight.
by Chuck LiNasty on Sep 16, 2011 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions
well most pros (i would think) dont really give a shit what the common folk thinks
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I think you are way off base there Newfie
They definitely think what the common folk think.
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*care what the common folk think
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yeah probably
im pretty sheltered here in NL. Not too sure what is going on in the world around me..
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Alot of them read the internet sites. Alot of them.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Good - I hope Diaz has been reading....that is
IF he knows how to read. You know, being a social outcast may affect his ability to do many things like missing his job responsibilities which may be directly related to the fact that the man just cannot read. If you can’t read, you don’t know what flight to catch or to which destination that it is going to, how much money he missed out on because he missed this fight, etc, etc, etc. This is a side of Diaz that nobody knows about and is rarely discussed. That is why he has signed onto SF fights for a couple thousand bucks because when he has a fistful of $1 bills, he doesn’t know whether it is $2000 or $200000.
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by hairybumcrack on Sep 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Classic first post
Must have taken you quite a bit of time to come up with that rebuttal – welcome to mania.
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by hairybumcrack on Sep 15, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I have read that same response to you 40 times.
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that is the purpose of the name
to entice a response so that I can have some fun with DDIQ members.
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by hairybumcrack on Sep 15, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Dick Duster IQ?
Like moustache?
i’m here.
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by Cruz Jackson on Sep 15, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
LOVE IT!!!!
Dan is the real deal, a real person, and a great fighter. Nothing he said was wrong. He was 100% correct and anybody who thinks what he said was out of line, probably is a troll like the guy he is referring to. That is all.
this
"What are you gonna do, hit him? No, that's a terrible idea, I'll tell you why.. it doesn't unbang your mom. "
by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Sep 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks
This was great to see, i’m glad he spoke out, more fighters should be like him, breath of fresh air
So fighters should be reading forums and calling out fans?
And baseball players should be lurking in the bushes of sports writers?
Should football players be hunting down fans of opposing teams?
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Yes, yes and yes. I hope Kimbo comes looking for me. I really do.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
So no freedom of speech for you?
Do you think the president should be allowed to have the SS hunt down detractors?
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We love thee, smiling land.
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No, Jay. But if you are going to talk shit then get ready to have shit thrown back at you. I don't think Dan overreacted - he didn't threaten the guy. He just owned him on the interwebs.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
They both have the right of freedom of speech
Dan is just better at it.
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes." - Jack Handy
What do you got on Kimbo Slice, munchkin?
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Everything except a half shaped taco looking chest design and a bird's nest for a "beard".
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I'm gonna build a nice, comfy hole in the desert for you in Vegas, mate. Oh yes, indeed.
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Just to humor you
yes :-P with night vision goggles and tranquilizers
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by Pillow Pants on Sep 15, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
football fans focus their ire on fantasy football players. See: Twitter.
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
football fans don't like fantasy football players?
I’m not following.
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lots of football players talk trash towards guys who play fantasy football.
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
But they don't single them out
They don’t say “Jerry who plays on Yahoo football is a pale faced nerd who’s never been laid”.
They speak in general terms. Dan should have just said all fans. He shouldn’t have singled this guy out.
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Moron and nuthugger arn't that bad.
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Saying he hasn't amounted to anything in 14 years is kinda mean
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but Dan doesn't know Scooter, so why would the guy take it personal.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
Just calling someone Scooter is an insult.
When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.
every “Scooter” i’ve ever known was a complete punk-ass….
Greatest P4P fighter in the world......Cain Velasquez. Know it, Learn it, Live it.
Scooter fixes the General Lee for race day.
Only scooter i’ve ever heard of.
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by Cruz Jackson on Sep 15, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
why can't he single him out?
This guy singled Dan out. If someone says something about you you have every right to fire back. I don’t care if you say it about a celebrity or not, if you make the comment, be ready for what comes after.
by thegr8stkybrdwarrior on Sep 15, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck Jerry.
Pale faced virgin…
by WallyBallz on Sep 15, 2011 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
alot of them PLAY fantasy football
Matt Hasselbeck and Maurice Jones Drew always talk their teams.
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true true
maybe i am reaching for straws here.
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I have seen guys call FFB players “pitiful”
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitiful is wanting to sleep with Oprah for money. :)
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Lol, I stand by that still
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Drown yourself in hard liquor first.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I'd drown myself in asscheeks
And hundred dollar bills.
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And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
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OJR, you wouldn’t tap the most powerful and influential woman on the planet? even there was a buttload of cash in it for you. And with the size of her butt, that would be a LOT of cash.
When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.
I have seen her in person. It ain't pretty, brother.
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Fuck One, Kill one, Marry one.
Your Mom
Rosie Odonnell
Oprah Winfrey
GO!
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by Cruz Jackson on Sep 15, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither for all 3.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
lol, If you had to pick. I forgot which movie it's from.
Harold and Kumar maybe? the first one? not sure.
but i already know the regular answer.
Marry my mom,
Kill rosie,
Fuck oprah-except i’d have it on camera and it’d be the biggest scandal since paris hilton!
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by Cruz Jackson on Sep 15, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop reaching for straws you coke head!!!! ;-)
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so nice i'n postin it twice....well, if you are a fan of conan (and who isn't) all i can say is about fucking time hendo!!!!!
well, if you are a fan of conan(and who isn’t) all i can say is about fucking time hendo!!!!!
i’ve been saying this for years along with a few other posters who don’t have selective memories and remember the fake injury anderson pulled when it was anounced that he would be fighting hendo again.
since he has been reading my posts and taking my talking points, allow me to inform everyone how hendo can win and offer my training services to hendo for the fight.let me say this first: the only way to beat anderson is to fight him like a regular man. anderson silva is considered the best p4p fighter in the world because he is a great fighter. if you further elevate him by worshiping his skill you have mentally created an opponent to powerful to overcome. for years people did this with fedor. once the armor was chipped, fedor’s aura fell apart.this has happened with roy jones and anderson silva too. all it takes is a challenger with no fear. if hendo believes silva is ducking him, then he isn’t scared of the man.
how hendo can win: hendo’s greatest asset is his wrestling and power when used in combination to rough guys up during transitions. he isn’t going to outstrike silva on the feet, but he can outstrike him during transitions and as anderson tries to get up after takedowns. the torpedo h-bomb used to ko fedor and the way he battered franklin against the cage would work against silva.
dan’s strategy needs to be to take silva down often and look for opportunities to drop bombs during standups and take down attempts. he should also be able to deliver more damage against anderson via gnp than sonnen, but i believe transistions will be his key to victory.he has to fight silva with sonnen’s attitude.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 15, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
PRIDE FC WW, MW, MW Grand Prix, StrikeForce LHW, UFC Tournament and Rings Tournament titles.
Yeah, I think his titles speak for themselves.
Dan is the only fighter to have ever pulled off two titles at once in a major MMA org and was able to grab three tournament titles. Rings, UFC and PRIDE tournaments were the last big tournaments that mattered.
Narcisist aka: Alberto Martinez, former owner of URDirt.com.
Now, regarding this "Anderson is ducking me" nonsense
just no. You were finished.
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3-0-1 when it comes to sig bets
so he is never allowed a rematch?
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he definately does
Dan won rd 1 against the spider. Second fight could play out different, and 1 smack from Dan and you are done
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who else is there as a challenge for the spider?
at least we know Dan has the wrestling ability to compete with Andy, and the KO power to knock his ass out.
can you imagine seeing Andy knocked out cold?? That would be a surreal sight, and Hendo may be one of very very few men able to do that
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Why would Dan deserve a rematch?
Anderson isn’t declining yet. He’s only better than he was the last time Dan gassed against him.
Dan hasn’t even improved the one element of his game that killed him against AS, why should we have to sit through a rematch? He just got beat up by Jake Shields ffs. This is ANderson Silva we’re talking about.
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We love thee, smiling land.
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This.
Dans been beating up lesser comp at lhw. Don’t get me wrong, his KO of Fedor is amazing, but that does not mean he should get a shot at the MW title.
"In a sport dominated by wrestlers, a striker is the best." -Lesnar's striking coach
3-0-1 when it comes to sig bets
Dan is great and has been on a run but Andy gets to fight whoever Andy wants and I don't think he wants Dan.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Sure he does. He has nothing to do with his matchmaking?
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Wrong
Silva is the only one who holds power over his body. He can walk away at any time if he doesn’t like what DW and Silva have to say.
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Sure he can decline a fight
but if we know anything about the ufc and dana white in particular…if hes pissed off about somebody declining a fight, he’ll let him and the public know about it!
Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...
They can't do nothing to Silva
Silva (while he has the belt) holds all the cards.
He can retire, drop to WW….He can do whatever he wants and DW and company have to take it because he’s the best fighter in the world. The best promotion in the world can not lose the best fighter in the world.
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And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
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Thats an incredibly naive way of looking at it
I’m not disputing that Silva has a degree of pull over who he fights but to say he effectively match makes for the upper-echelon of the ufcs middlweight divison is nuts! Dana White and Joe Silva make the matches, not anderson! Are you telling me that Silva has wanted to fight everybody that hes defended his belt against so far? Because by your logic he must have wanted to fight them because he’d simply turn down a fight against them if he wasn’t interested?
Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...
He hasn't always had this power
He wasn’t born with a 12 fight win streak in the UFC. Of course he’s had to accept fights against guys he believes are beneath him.
But right now, at this point in time, he could say “I’m 1 fight from retiring, if you make that one fight Dan Henderson I will retire now”.
Or he could say " I’m working on my legacy right now, I don’t need Dan Henderson’s name on my resume twice. Find me another fighter or I’m injured for a year".
AS can do whatever he wants and Dana has to take it now because AS has the leverage he didn’t have 5 or 10 fights ago.
I’m not saying AS would do these things, but Dana would have to be a moron to have not thought of these possibilities.
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I think he has already done these things.
He has claimed injuries a few times but I don’t recall them ever being listed in the post-fight medical suspensions. Just when he gets back to Brazil and wants some time off.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Sep 15, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Well when you are champ you dont really have a say in who you fight. Whoever is the best guy out there mixed with who ever the company wants is who you get. You can avoid a guy for only so long.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He's got money and fame
He can walk away whenever he wants. Nobody can MAKE him fight anyone at this point. That’s what I’m getting at.
DW doesn’t have a knife to his throat telling him he HAS to fight anybody.
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Definitely no knife. He has the money. Now he has the fame. I wonder what retiring might do to his new BK contract though?
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Retired athletes still make bank
And how much does it cost to live in Brazil anyway?
He’s already set.
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When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
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not disagreeing there. But I am still curious if his contract would be voided.
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Well it would be effected because he wouldnt have the apperance opportunities to promote the label
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
curious
what kind of clauses you see in these things. Can divulge anything? Like, let’s say you get hurt. How is that handled?I know you couldn’t speak to all, but in your experience?
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Alot of times sponsors pay you in terms of fights.
Like wear this logo for 3 fights you get 10k. So basically 3,300 per fight. Or we will pay you 5k each time you wear this shirt at a press conference. Or in these cases its by the commercial or appearance.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I would imagine the number can change if you happen to hop promotions mid contract, or go from undercard to main card, to televised card etc?
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Yes.
Example. Math skills going to work… I would say I have had a 75% increase when it was televised then when it was just a regional event.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
make that whole contract in one fight/one press conference
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Pressers is where the moneys at because of all the pictures taken. Wear one shirt and make more then most people could imagine. Outside the UFC other promotions will pay you to wear their clothes when attending other events. Politics.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeha for sure they dont even have internet there
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
funniest chael rant ever.
“i chose my medium very carefully. i went to the internet. i didnt know they have internet in brazil! I never would have said those things if i knew brazillians could have found out about it”
As proven, ULF has superior pick-em knowledge than I. I tip my hat to thee sir.
Don't pity those who tried and lost. Pity those who never had the courage to try in the first place.
Chael makes me happy when I am having a bad day. I watch that interview or the one when he said Fedor was 3-2 or any of his post conferences from Anderson and Q&A’s.
He is hilarious and a genius the way he is so quick to answer to things.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I laugh at those vids too
The Fedor one is the best I’ve ever seen.
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the guy is a comedian
I think it is even funnier when guys he has talked shit to come back with “he even apologized to me after the fight” like him being anything other than a troll is supposed to come off as a shock. Someone really believed he was serious when he said The Nogs pet a bus?
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People always get pist about it and argue it being wrong or right and Chael is probably laughing his ass off about it.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
havent seen the fedor one actually.
link?
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Let me see, I think it is with Maura.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Mauro.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe you
but only because you’ve seen GSP run away from a match with Anderson for years
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Thats different, you cant be forced to move a weight class. Especially since neither are each others #1 contenders.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
So you think that before they set up a super fight that GSP should have to move up an beat a Chris Leben type first rather than getting an instant title shot?
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I do
I think he should HAVE to beat someone of consequence in that division before getting a title fight.
Look at BJ Penn, he was killing fools at LW. Moves up to WW for a free title shot, and can’t even put on a competitive fight. GSP should have to prove himself a bit at MW before being thrown in there with the GOAT.
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Yes and no.
They should fight once there to earn the shot but of course politics and marketing play a key. BJ got his shot off hype and off beating the best WW ever to fight.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ got his shot off hype and off beating the best WW ever to fight ONCE HE WAS PAST HIS PRIME
How come you discredit Dan for beating Fedor when it doesn’t matter, yet try to condone BJ’s title shot after beating Hughes?
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I was talking when he took the title from Hughes
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think he really deserves a rematch
but he is one of the guys who has the potential to beat him and there arent too many of them around.
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plus, dan is not the same animal @ 185
If a rematch should took place dan has much better chance @ lhw
by dia mette on Sep 15, 2011 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not after losing to the SF MW champ, and racking up wins at LHW and HW
No, imo, that does not warrant a rematch with the ufc mw champion
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Winning a title at 205, smashing a legend at 205, beating the acclaimed best HW in history all make up for the Shields fight and more.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
But a fight with Anderson?
At 205, sure. But not for the title.
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3-0-1 when it comes to sig bets
The thing is .. us fans, the hardcores amongst us want things to be fair and be the way it “should” be. However, this is a business and cashing in on Hendo is a smart business move.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But does he deserve the shot?
Did he earn a shot at the UFC MW title?
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He has earned the right to put his name in the mix at both MW and LHW. It comes down to who else is in the running. Who else is there to fight Anderson right now?
It may be a case of right place right time.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Winner of Sonnen/Stann
Bisping, should he win.
That’s all I got.
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Bisping doesnt deserve it over Dan. Stann does should he beat Sonnen. Sonnen doesnt unless solely based on marketing.
In my opinion.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I definitely agree
And I suppose I’m contradicting myself here, but the ufc finally has options at this point. Bisping may not deserve it, but you better believe he’ll be howling for a title shot with his first 4 fight win streak in more than 3 years. Agree that Sonnen doesn’t deserve a rematch, yet. But the UFC could market the hell out of that fight (and it would actually be a fight) Stann is the only MW who would be deserving of a title shot with a win over Chael.
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I would think that Dan would prefer to fight Anderson at 205
He wouldn’t have a weight cut, and he wouldn’t have to cut weight his next bout when he’d be defending the MW title. Dan has earned the right to only fight legends.
Ponder this – say Dan got the MW title shot and won. And Sonnen beat Stann. Does Sonnen accept a fight against Dan?
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Easy, he takes it in a heart beat. If not, his whole gimmick crashes.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
^ THIS
Couldn’t agree more, he had no business stepping in the cage that night against Shields, but he’s a gamer, and went for it anyways, i don’t think he’ll make the same mistake in his weight cut again.
He's made that same mistake cutting weight EVERY time
Don’t say he won’t make it again.
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He has won at 185
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And Rashad has won at HW.
Do you think he should get to demand a fight with the winner of Cain/JDS?
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If he has extensive time and success at HW then yes
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
But Dan has shown he can't compete at MW anymore
He can’t even beat top 5 WW’s at MW.
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He hasnt fought a WW. He was a 185er.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake is a top 5 WW.
He fought at MW because of Nick.
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But was still a MW and the champion at that
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgot about all his wins at 185?
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn’t won at 85 since Andy has he? That would be like giving anyone who fights for the title an immediate rematch.
ding ding ding!
IMO, Dan Henderson’s been given alot of priveleges. Back to back title shots entering the UFC. Then an immediate titleshot entering Strikeforce.
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He had the resume that should have earned him a UFC title shot so I'd hope Strikeforce would give him and immediate title shot
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Nto even close to the same.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree
He wants to fight at MW. The last time he did that he lost to Shields because he couldn’t go 2 full rounds.
Last time he fought AS he gassed in the second round and got choked out.
I think the Shields fight and his other MW gassings are the only thing that matters here. How he does when he doesn’t have to cut weight means nothing.
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Gassed?
I remember him getting rocked but not gassed.
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You should watch the fight again
Against both Silva and Shields he won the first round and the fatigue was easy to see in the second. He also went pretty much full out in those fights but regardless the fatigue late in round one was obvious in both fights
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I remember him coming out at half the speed of the first round
And not being able to take AS down (like he did in the first with ease). I figured that was from being tired?
I could be misremembering though.
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I think he slowed as well but I also think being rocked played a huge part in it
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He slowed down near the end of the first round
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What Puck said.
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He only got hit because he'd already slowed
His feet are always the first to go. First round he was picking AS up, second round he couldn’t even catch him to wrap him up. He slowed.
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lol your nuthugging of Silva is bordering on nauseating
Who did Anderson beat to get a title shot? Oh yeah Chris Leben
I’m sure Dan’s accomplishments in his latest fights are no match for a win over Chris Leben.
You should know better than anyone since you’re on that Zuffa dick, that fights aren’t made based on who earns, but who and what sells more often than not.
You would be the first person to lobby for a GSP/Silva or Silva/Jones superfight with either Silva or GSP doing anything to earn it.
You are either a blind nuthugger or you are just scared of your butt buddy having to give Dan a rematch
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Do some homework.
Chris Leben was 19-1 when they fought and looked to be a very nice contender in the UFC which you also have to realize was not what it is today.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He was on like a 6 fight streak at the time
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by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A win over Fedor means more than a win over Chris Leben to get a title shot whether it's 2006 or 2011
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No it is not.
Beating Fedor now means little compared to beating one of the brighter prospects in the whole promotion then.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean like Rich Franklin who Vitor beat to "earn" his shot.
He’s just as washed up as Fedor the only difference it Dan (a MW) took a fight against a Heavyweight and arguably one of the greatest to ever compete in tis sport.
Who is Anderson supposed to fight now? Bisping? Please
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personally i think Silva should grow a pair and go to lhw
apart from the sonnen rematch ive got zero interest in any mw fights.GSP is too small im not interested in that.Imagine if he did go up and beat Shogun say before fighting JBJ for the title,just WOW!
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Same. I want Andy at 205 but he is too old, now. 37 next year? Not happening.
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He's not too old he just won't got to LHW if it's not against a complete can or tailor made match-up
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Really? You think every fighter can be like Randy? 37 is old for any sport - especially combat sports.
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Your right but Andy is no ordinary fighter
Then again injuries seem to be popping up alot lately
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
that makes no sense, OJ
Anderson fights better at 205 and it’s much easier for him to make the cut to 205 than 185 (though he still has to cut 20 lbs even to get to 205). 205 is a better fit for him, especially as he ages. The only reason he won’t go there is because the competition is stiffer. He’s only average size for 205 and won’t enjoy as much of a reach advantage and he would have to fight higher level fighters, which he has always gone out of his way to avoid.
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It makes no sense for you because you want to see Andy beaten senseless. Cutting weight to 205 would be easier but his body would still be 37 years old.
Give me a list of fighters who maintained a high level of success after 35 not named Randy and I will consider your view as objective.
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Rich Franklin is not even close to being as “washed up” as Fedor. Try again.
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They are both gatekeeper status fighters.
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No, Rich isnt 0-3 being finished in all of them. That is called done. Rich is still winning.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
when? lol
his last legitamate win was okami in 2007
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"i dont get it"
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Against Chinless Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei? lol Matt Hamill could beat those guys. That doesn't man Rich special
Fedor has lost to two top tier heavyweights. Henderson was supposed to be a gimme fight and he survived an early onslaught and pulled out the win being the smaller man. That is much more impressive than a win over Liddell who, at that point was 10x more ’done" than Fedor.
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Bigfoot and Werdum are top tier? they have recently proved otherwise.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Recently?
Like Chris Leben? Strong pulling out the double standard
Silva and Bigfoot pulled out wins against Fedor in just over a year ago.
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Sorry Werdum and Bigfoot
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Chris Leben when he fought Ando was 19-1 bright spot 6 fight win streak.
Bigfoot just came off a win over a 205er who clocked him round 1 and came back to win round two and before that went 1-1 in his two biggest fights to date vs Werdum and AA.
Was Bigfoot promising? Sure. I give you that one.
Werdum.. not as much.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They were top 10 ranked HW's
What is top tier, if that?
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Bigfoot was fringe at best. And Werdum volted to that status for beating Fedor. Nobody really had Werdum that high prior.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Finished?
In what sense? Andy clearly beat Dan the first time around and will most likely do it again but I am not a fighter, an agent or a promoter so I would not know if there is any truth to this argument. However I do know that Ed Soares has been critical in the past about competition not being worthy enough to fight Andy which leads me to believe that there is at least a glimmer of hope that this argument has some strength.
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by ScrapPackBackAgain on Sep 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
finished as in the fight was stopped in the second rd
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Well with this logic GSP would never have been Champion.
As Hughes finished his ass in their first skirmish. Care to rethink your Hypothesis Newfie3.
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by ScrapPackBackAgain on Sep 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
what the fuck are you talking about?
he said hendo was finished by Andy and he was
GSP was finished was Hughes
there is no logic being used, just facts!
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That is totally different!
GSP was young and still evolving as a fighter back when he fought Hughes the first time. Now GSP can say he’s evolved to the number 2 p4p. Hendo was at his peak going into his unification fights against Rampage and Silva.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Newfie3 that was supposed to be directed at Rivulation
I am saying just because someone loses the first time convincingly it does not mean that they should not get another crack at it so I brought up GSP as an example. As far as Hendo not evolving I feel that he is improving thus if he keeps winning he deserves a shot.
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by ScrapPackBackAgain on Sep 15, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand your point
My point is that beating lower tier light heavys in Strikeforce does not get you a shot at the middleweight title. Or, at least, it shouldn’t.
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well with that logic you are wrong again
because GSP was dominating hughes until the armbar
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Now, I’m not saying that there is not a possibility they have been avoiding a rematch with Henderson . . . but
Ed Soares and Anderson Silva has explicitly stated in the past that their vocal criticism of Silva’s opponents does not equate a refusal to fight. Silva didn’t care to fight Belfort, Leites, Cote and didn’t think much of Maia. The UFC presented the contracts, they signed.
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by VeeisAnimated on Sep 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva didn't care to fight Belfort or Hendo
he had no complaints about Leites, Cote, Irvin, etc. In other words, he only complains when he’s asked to fight a legit TOP-3 opponent.
And apparently, he only gets injured when he’s asked to fight Dan Henderson.
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oh because he never ducked him before, right?
Wasn’t it Anderson that say he thinks Nate and Dan should fight each other instead of Dan getting a shot?
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That was his opinion and many believed it should be that way as well. I know I did.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
dumb opinion
where is it written that the champ gets to sit around with his thumb up his ass till an undisputed No.1 contender can be found???
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That definitely would have provided a clear-cut number 1 contender
Probably not necessary, but why wouldn’t Anderson want to fight the better fighter? Bear in mind, he had already finished both men.
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at that time, who exactly was the "better fighter" amongst MW's than Dan Henderson
Dan was on a 3 fight streak. Marquardt was on a 1 fight win streak. I think it’s pretty clear cut Dan was the more deserving of the two
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Not true. They both had been beaten and finished by Ando and they both were winning at the top levels. Nate lost a controversial fight.
They both should have fought.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hendo would have KO'd Marquardt
There was no need for that fight.
Hendo should have gotten his title shot after his huge KO over Bisping.
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Then blame the UFC not Ando. All Dana had to do was book the fight, instead they didnt even re-sign the guy.
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I do blame the UFC.
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Which is who everyone should blame, their really isnt ducking in the UFC. I mean you can try to avoid but at the end of the day it comes down to what the UFC wants.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
those same rules don't apply to anderson silva. whoever has the greatest fighter in the world
has instant clout. that is why anderson silva, a guy who can’t sell a fukking card to save his life, makes “ander$on $ilva” money.
i have been saying this shit for years, i’m glad hendo finally called him out on it. fighters turn down fights all the time. he wanted no part of a hendo rematch after bisbing and he sure as hell doesn’t want it after fedor.
i’m not even saying it is out of fear, but it is lose/lose for anderson. he risks alot fighting a guy with the skills to beat him. a choke artist like vitor and mid level fighters like okami are much more enticing.
anderson might just want legacy fights at this point, and a loss to henderson would tarnish his legacy.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 15, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
right on, Conan
Anderson has been hand-picking for years. He’s the only champ since Tito who’s ever played the spin game to avoid opponents…and he even went so far as to fake an elbow injury last time they wanted him to fight Hendo, then miraculously heal as soon as Hendo left the UFC. Now they want him to fight Hendo again and suddenly he has a shoulder injury and can’t fight till next year…or whenever Dan gets beat or is set on a path at 205.
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how awesome was it that hendo said this? we have been saying it forever,
but now he is calling him out hardcore! i hope this blows up and people realize all the spin and ducking anderson and soares have pulled over at the ufc.
for anyone else at home. silva ducks legit threats, takes easy fights and then acts like a fool. some champ.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 16, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
preach it, Brother, preach it!
IMO Anderson is the worst UFC champion of all time in terms of Championship attitude and spirit…okay, maybe second worst after Tito. Unfortunately, I have to admit he’s very likely the most talented UFC champion of all time as well….but that’s no excuse for being a ducking diva douchebag, avoiding challengers, dissing opponents, and spending his whole career bullying the weakest division in UFC history when he’s the same size as the most competitive and star-studded division and could have been giving us legendary matchups for the past 5 years instead of a massive load of bullshit. Instead of watching Silva fight the Lutters, Leites, and Cotes, we could have been watching history making matchups against Shogun, Couture, Rampage, Rashad, Machida, Chuck, Tito…the who’s who of the UFC HOF.
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by ItalianStallion54 on Sep 17, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
No the proposed rematch for Dan/Silva was suggested @ UFC 100 after Dan racked up his 3rd win over Bisping
Marquardt at that point when Anderson suggested they fight each other. Marquardt had just beaten Gouveia and Kampmann. Sorry 2 wins not 1.
But still 3 wins > 2 wins.
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But still 3 wins > 2 wins.
No, its never that easy.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually it is.
2 is more than 3. That’s basic math.
And one the subject of math. Henderson is bigger name and bigger draw than Marquardt. So yes it really is that simple
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Not at all, 3 split decisions isnt better then 2 first round finishes. And even at that if the three splits are against the #1, #2 and #3 guys and the KO’s are over nobodies it makes a difference.
So no, 3 wins doesnt always trump 2. It isnt that simple.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Here it is
Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...
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Dan has earned the right to call out whoever he wants. He probably won’t beat Anderson at any weight, but Dan is always game.
I agree with cbrody here.
Dan is a gamer. He comes to fight and for the most part his fights are interesting. If Dana H. Christ feels that he neeeds a contender fight at mw to prove himself then so be it but Dan has earned the right to call out anyone.
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by ScrapPackBackAgain on Sep 15, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
How has he earned the right to call out anyone he wants?
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
I'd rather see a legend calling out a champ than a champ calling out a mid-level douchebag.
How is it that Dan, a multi-division, multiple time champion gets criticised for calling out a champ, but the “greatest fighter of all time” doesn’t get shit-pasted for calling out Michael frakkin Bisping? At least Dan has ambition and balls. Time for Silva to grow a pair and start at least calling out top guys his own size (like Shogun & Rashad) instead of picking on Welterweights.
In all seriousness people, for 10 years Fedor fought the best guys they could get from 185-300 lbs. Anderson is the same size as Fedor but won’t even fight 205ers like Shogun, let alone 240 pounders like Bones and Cain. You can criticize Fedor for losing to Hendo, but at least he didn’t try to dodge Hendo.
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Could watch this all day.
He fucking whipped that right hand.
It’s so beautiful :’(
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by Cruz Jackson on Sep 15, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I call ghost writer
Never heard him talk that intelligently and I’m a fan!
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Not necessarily...
He could have easily typed it up and had someone review it prior to posting. I personally think it is him, from what I’ve watched and read in interviews in the past, a lot of the points he brought up are the ones he likes to state when defending his position in terms of rankings and title contention. Besides if it wasn’t his account, im sure some of the regular posters on the UG would have pointed it out by now.
He is actually a very smart guy, I knew guys who have went to his seminars and say many great things about them.
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naw i just stuck that in a thread as a comment
copied and pasted from the site
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check and mate - Hendo's response is awesome and he definitely deserves a second shot, if Rich deserved one so does Hendo
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Rich didn't deserve one.
poor guy had to get corrective surgery. One injustice does not warrant another.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Rich earned his in the ufc
Dan has not.
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Anderson didn't earn his in the UFC did he? Of course not and that is really a moot point of where
they earned their shot
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at this poibnt in his career dan cant beat the top 3 MW or top 3 LHW
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And you base this off of what exactly?
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
His last fights against the elite in those divisions..
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Both were victories? I'm sorry but you have to be a little more thorough if you're trying to get a point across. Don't look foolish.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's see
Dan’s last fight against a top 3 lhw. Loss to Rampage. A top 3 mw? Anderson.
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Last top 3 WW
Loss to Shields.
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Yeah with Dan his endurance at MW is an issue
If he could prove his endurance would not I would love to see him fight Silva again. At LHW I would like to see him fight any top dog.
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Agreed
that’s the only reason I don’t want to see the rematch. A match at 205 would be perfect, but we all know Anderson is content at 185.
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If Dan was willing to go in and face Sonnen/Stann winner then I would be fine
But I prefer to see a Shields and Hendo rematch over Anderson because of the endurance issue
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I thought his was referring to his stint in the UFC.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well lets see.
1. Anderson Silva is quite possibly the best Middleweight of all time.
2. If Rampage beats Jon Jones anyone could make a believable case for Rampage being the #1 LHW all-time.
No shame in losing in either.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Page #1 LHW of all time?
I don’t like the sounds of that.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not disagreeing
Just don’t like the sounds of it. Not a Page fan.
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If he then beat Rashad and Rua he would go down as the greatest. Until he avenges those losses he’s top 5, not 1.
Not even close. Wand and Rua, not to mention Chuck all have more valid claims. And I know you will say Page beat Chuck but Mirko isnt the better HW over Barnett even though he beat him 3 times.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If Rampage beats Jones, and goes on to beat Rashad he could go down as the greatest. Of course that isn’t going to happen.
Still no. I think he has to avenge to Rua to become the best.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, should Page win the belt and defend it just once against either Rashad or Rua then he becomes up there. Then if he defends it a second time against the other then I would say … he can be called the greatest LHW so far. But that is 3 wins away.
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Hey, ANS, I just made another bet.
I know you like my bets so much, figured I’d shout it out to you.
I bet Drew that Josh Freeman scores more fantasy points this season than Jay Cutler.
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Well after all those emails I learned a little more about you lol… these bet makings make sense to what I think of your personality. I think you lose this one.
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Freeman is currently down 6 points
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Lol.
I like Freeman but Cutler to me has A. a more pass style offense and B. more weapons to pass too.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but Cutler is a head case. I hope you are right because that means the Bears go a long way this year but I am skeptical.
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Wait, people are now calling Johny know and Earl Bennet and Devin Hester weapons?
What is this world coming to?
I’ll give Cutler them 3, and for Freeman I’d take Mike WIlliams and his sisters and I still like Freeman’s weapons better!
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but Cutler tends to forget which team he's supposed to throw to.
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Disagree
Mirko isnt the better HW over Barnett even though he beat him 3 times.
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Yeah thats a tough one stlye wise CC had Barnett's number
The other thing that takes away from Barnett is the roids he was caught using three times. I would have to put CC ahead of Barnett right now based on that alone but if Barnett was never caught I think I would have him ahead of CC.
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When its all said and done. Barnett will go down as the better heavyweight in their MMA careers.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
What if Cormier starches him
"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."
by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It says more about Cormier then Barnett. Barnett could retire today and go down as one of the best HW’s ever
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Already top 5
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
When all said and done, he will be remembered as a cheat. His only really big win is against Nog, that’s about it. What are you talking about?
There is no doubt during his era he was top five
Fedor, CC, BArnett & NOG were without a doubt the best after them it was debatable
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
LHW division doesn't really have a #1 all time because it is so competitive compared to the other diviisions
Cases could be made for Rua, Chuck, Wandy…..as well. The LHW division is hands down for the last decade the most competitive division in MMA.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
1. Shogun
2. Wand
3. Page
4. Chuck
5. Tito
(Sakuraba deserves to be in there if you consider him a 205er. I do not so I won’t.)
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Good list of fighters no doubt
Personally i have Wandy at #1 his Pride era to me is still greater than any other LHW’s accomplishments but I’m not going to argue much with any of those guys
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I would have Page ahead of Chuck as well though??
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I have page ahead of chuck
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Good list and without a doubt I agree they are top five AT
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
I can see it either way Wandy at #1. Can’t argue with that.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Calm down skeeter, he ain't harmin nobody.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
They kept track of fights in Japan?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They were really good at keeping track of stats in Japan
They even entered them early sometimes (since the outcomes were predetermined).
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Oh, gotcha. That makes sense. Sherdog had spoilers in the fight finder.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
LHW
1.Rampage
2.Wand
3.Chuck
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by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rampage as the #1 LHW ever??
Who the fuck are you? Tiki Ghosn?
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+1
for him being Tiki and forgetting to wipe his chin off before he posted.
by Chuck LiNasty on Sep 15, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
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Rampage WILL defeat Jon Jones on Sep. 24....Mark my words!!!
by ItalianStallion54 on Sep 15, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Theres a first time for everything but you're lists pretty spot on
I agree!! Maybe have Chuck ahead of Page but thats just a matter of opinion
Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...
in my opinion no way..
Rampage absolutely smashed chuck twice he has 11 more victories and has faced tough comp his whole career
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by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fair doos bro, just a matter of opinion
I think Chuck dealing with Randy the way he did, murdering Tito twice and battering Wanderlei in a FOY classic gives him a solid case though. I’m not a Chuck fan, just think he did a huge amount for the business. But I understand what you’re saying, Page did beat him twice
Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...
not quite possibly
he is..
"What are you gonna do, hit him? No, that's a terrible idea, I'll tell you why.. it doesn't unbang your mom. "
by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Sep 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Silva, that is..
"What are you gonna do, hit him? No, that's a terrible idea, I'll tell you why.. it doesn't unbang your mom. "
by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Sep 15, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Depends how you determine it. Is he the most succesful? Sure. Is there other great Middleweights that I believe could beat him prime vs prime? Sure. Anderson has showed a lack of submission defense.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah like 8 years ago lol
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you ever reply to me? You're a wannabe unsuccessful troll. Your opinion does not matter to me.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
But he's right
When was the last time AS looked incapable of stopping subs?
If anything he can’t stop wrestlers. Subs aren’t his problem anymore.
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And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
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We love thee, we love thee,
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When's the last time he fought an Ace grappler that was competent enough to get him to a dominant position?
Don’t get me wrong, AS is great I just think that’s his hole in his game. ( Keep in mind the one and only hole is a very small one too.)
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Maia and Leites were not successful in their grappling because Andersons is that good. Takedowns are part of BJJ in case you have never seen a BJJ match.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Chael, who possessed no BJJ and Travis Lutter are the best examples I can think of.
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
Lutter is also a very very legit grappler. And did take him down and did nothing with it.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
he had him in mount but his gnp was pathetic
ok silvas knees were shot but a none gassed Lutter would have finished him there imo
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
And in shape Lutter probably would have. But Lutter has never been the best professional nor has he been focused enough. The talent was there.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yh what a waste of talent
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
I’ve probably seen more than you not to mention competed in more of them than you. However in a BJJ match you’re flagged for not engaging back in terms of grappling now in MMA its ideal for Anderson to not engage. It’s very separate entities. (/Unsuccessful much?) Slaying you every other day does get old. Just give it up.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, compete in ADCC then let me know whats up.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I WISH. Ricardo Arona style baby!
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, no one has any love for Ricardo Arona. Fine.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Arona is good, waste of potential and talent.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he's a complete fuck up. Have you seen recent pictures of him? Completely roided out.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He has a slim window left on his career… and I hope he actually takes it.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That sucks half my picture is cut out
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
you competed in ADCC? or are we talking about someone else i can’t be bothered to check the rest of the conversation lol. I was hoping to get to this years got a few friends who live in nottingham where its taking place.
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
We will leave that convo for another day. But you should go it will insanely fun.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i was thinking about it, but not many of my friends are mma fans let alone fans of submission wrestling
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
What I suggest is look up guys you may know competing. Like Jacare and Estima. Find sick highlight vids or one great match, show friends. Go watch.
Easy way to kill time there is doing these three things.
-Watching gyms. Like say the guys who came with Estima.
-Look for the stars who may be there. For example Nate Diaz and Ben Hendo were at the Worlds.
-Catch the interesting match ups. Like Gracie Barra vs Alliance, big gyms vs big gyms.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I love your posting style
Assumption after assumption, without a care in the world.
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
I said probably because I definitely have done more of both of them than the average poster on this website. And as of now thats the only statistic I have to go on.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even close. There are more posters then the one on this post, dont assume people who are online dont train and compete in sporting events.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I will bet my left nut I have witnessed more and competed more than the "Average" poster on this website.
Aleksandr Karelin for GOAT!
by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
And ironically it wouldnt matter.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
no one wants your left nut
The right one on the other hand, it may hold some value.
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
beat me to it Deuce lol
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
whats wrong with the right one?
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
just attend an mma gym for 2 days and you've seen more action than the average poster.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
I count my backyard brawls. They definitely count.
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
playin in the couch cushion fort doesnt count Deuce.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
But what if we made it into an octagon-like cage?
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
If I walked into Greg Jackson's just to simply take a dump in their restroom and quickly scurry out, I'd have more MMA experience than 95% of the people that post here
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watch a Pride fight and you have more experience than the average mma poster.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
^ And that's all I said. I'm not claiming to be hot shit just saying I have more experience than most of the people here. ( I'm not even saying that makes me more knowledgab
^ And that’s all I said. I’m not claiming to be hot shit just saying I have more experience than most of the people here. ( I’m not even saying that makes me more knowledgeable [Even though It may] I was just trying to prove my point.)
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree Emerson.
your not sayin there are no other experienced fighters here, your just sayin you believe you have more experience than the average poster. Agreed.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
I agree that Emerson knows jack shit and he is pulling stuff straight out of his ass.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
IF ViolentMike walked into Gregs just to take a dump that would be awesome. People would be like, um hey who was that guy hwo just went in and took and shit and left?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hemad hes clowned by me numerous times.
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You are as full of shit as they come.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Thats what makes ANderson dangerous most the guys that have the ability to get Anderson down Anderson has better JJ than
The guys that have better JJ can’t bring him down.
"I felt like I was getting raped by Freddy Mercury"-Tank on losing to Dan Severn
Exactly. So he lost 3 fights before he peaked, before he even progressed. And since then he has never even been in danger of submissions.
So again… 8 years ago? I think his Black Belt in BJJ under the Nogs says different now.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re a wannabe unsuccessful troll
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
I want to be a unsuccesful troll. Lol. I have always wanted to be.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
you should change your Ultimate Submission articles
into Ultimate Backyard Brawls and just for fun call the first one Volume 48.
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
What should I highlight on? The vice grip I have on Zuffa’s nuts? Lol….
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the first one should be titled “how to trane UFC (not the pussy wrassling style), dominate and be a bad ass”
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
Lol… I fought on saturday… and DOMINATED.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
bloody hell ANS i thought Kev had just rocked up lol
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Lol
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
who's talking about shame?
He has lost to elite competition since beating wand in pride
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by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 2:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the last elite fighters dan has faced
He got choked by anderson
Lost decision to rampage
Lost to a true WW shields
Hasn’t faced a top five MW or LHW after losing those fights.
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by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rich?
"Aut Viam Inveniam Aut Faciam"
by ScrapPackBackAgain on Sep 15, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Rich was robbed.
Why doesn’t Hendo try to fight Rich again?
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he won
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Robbed?
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your an idiot if you think that
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
LHWs that can beat Hendo.
Jones, Rampage, Rashad, Shogun, Lyoto.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Nostradamus
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by David Emerson on Sep 15, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Granted he would struggle to beat those guys, But MW who is their apart from Anderson? Nobody
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
I would like to see him fight Vitor again at MW. It could be much more competitive
and Hendo doesn’t have a gas tank at that weight.
Sonnen can take a hit, he’s also a really good wrestler and has great cardio.
These two fights can go either way but Hendo is not guaranteed a win over these two.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah and he has a great chance against anyone of those guys too. the dude is elite until he gasses. he roughed up rampage for three rounds until he gassed a little in their fight
i thought it could have gone either way, but it was a good fight.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 15, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan in high school...
He looks like a total dork but I can say that because I am hidden behind and anonymous screen name…
Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...
What Dan henderson says applies to all fighters
while you sit at your computer and make ignorant statements […] I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans […] Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I’ve been doing this for the past X# years
Tell me where you work so I can come watch, and whenever you have a bad day I’ll demand that you get fired with no opportunity to redeem yourself.
Now apply that to any recent MMA controveries and you realize how ignorant peoples comments can be.
jake is a good fighter Dan
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So does Henderson
Come win a few fights against top comp at 185 in the UFC and then call for a shot, a win over Fedor is old news. A win over Fedor is like a win over big Tim, no one cares. It doesn’t matter, fight in the UFC or STFU. Come fight Bisping if you want a shot.
bisping doesnt deserve another shot at hendo
love to watch wand, florian, lauzon, gsp, cain, machida, dos anjos
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
fedor man its time to hang up the gloves
by Burlzilla129 on Sep 15, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Bisping is probably closer to a title shot than Hendo is.
Bisping will at least try to be a title contender by beating Miller rather than saying he is entitled to it because he knocked out Fedor.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Miller warrants a title shot? really?
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Fighters have gotten title shots for much, much less in the UFC.
At least Bisping is fighting MIDDLEWEIGHTS in the UFC and he’s getting wins. Not to mention hating Bisping is the cool thing to do so the fight would be marketable.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because its happened doesn't mean it should.
Mayhem isn’t quite in the top 10 yet. So he is gonna jump Sonnen/Stann who have beaten guys that mean something and face Silva…Okay.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Sonnen and Stann are more deserving of course.
However, what happens when Silva vs Sonnen/Stann happens?
I’m just saying Bisping seems like the logical choice after that fight.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Bisping's gonna need atleast 1 more fight (if he beats Miller)...and it'll have to be against a Top contender.
someone like Belfort.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
Bisping has been on a tear since that fight winning against top competition. A win over Rivera at this point means a hella lot more than a win over Fedor does. Throw Kang and Akiyama in there and Bisping is pretty close to a shot. Henderson hasn’t fought in 2 years.
Kang, Rivera and Akiyama
hahaha that’s a fucking resume.
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Well it is.
Akiyama only had 1 loss when Bisping schooled him, he was the superstar coming over to get a shot. Bisping ended all that hype and Akiyamas career at the same time.
Henderson has literally done nothing since beating Bisping. Like it or not Bisping is on a tear
Sexyama was never going anywhere. He wasn't a hot prospect when he fought Bis
He was/is a gimmick that they thought they could use.
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Bisping isn't on the rise
He’s lying dormant in the middle of the UFC pack. Contenders don’t sign fights against the Rivera’s of the world, then come off the fight thinking they’ve slain a dragon. Bis is a token. That’s all he’ll ever be.
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Agreed.
You need to be climbing a slope, not walking across a plateau. Rivera was a step-down from Akiyama, IMO.
He was on the right track with the win over Kang and a step-up in Wandy, but Wandy knocked him back down a peg.
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
You could argue that Belcher ended that hype...
"We mortals are but shadows and dust..."
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Stout: Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez : Lombard
If Dan deserves to fight AS again
Then fucking right Mick Bisping deserves to fight Dan again.
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Yeah but...
In Hendo’s defense , that wasnt his best or even 2nd best performance. He looked really soft and gassed in that fight, something thats not common from him. Still great heart displayed by Shields, being so close to being put away early on.
does anderson have the wrestling that jake does? no he doesn’t. this gif has no warrant on a spider/hendo rematch
love to watch wand, florian, lauzon, gsp, cain, machida, dos anjos
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
fedor man its time to hang up the gloves
by Burlzilla129 on Sep 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan lost to Jake due to gas tank
Not wrestling. He was winning the wrestling WHEN HE COULD BREATHE.
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Yeah, Dan was barely able to stand at the weigh in
Horrible cut for him, 205 is where he is strongest
Rafael Cavalcante, Rich Franklin, Fedor, and yes Sobral
Cavalcante was the LHF Champ for SF and was rated in the top 10 i believe. Rich Franklin who also was top 10 at the time if I recall, Fedor who is a HW and he fought him weighing 207 i believe (just two pounds over the LHW limit), and Sobral is no slouch no matter what you think, he fought for the LHW title in the UFC and held the LHW title in SF, so say what you want, but those are legit wins against top level competition, where he weight 205-207
Better fighters don't lose to worse fighters in the first round.
When they are both fresh.
Better athletes do that. Jake out-conditioned him. Nothing more.
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Conditioning is a skill so Shields was the better fighter.
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by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
I won’t get hung up on terminology.
I think Dan is a more complete fighter. He has more tools in a fight when he isn’t tired.
Shields is better at JJ and stamina. That is it IMO. So Jake is a better athlete, Dan is a better fighter IMO.
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Interesting. I would say Jake and Dan are pretty damn even.
I think they both are incredibly skilled fighters. And I think Dan is also a damn good athlete. With bad cardio at a small weight class he shouldnt cut too if he couldnt cut correctly.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Fantastic.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
GOO HENDOOOO
they should contend at lhw tho then Andy will get better competition out of him
by johnnysmash on Sep 15, 2011 2:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
this makes sense
but it won’t happen. Dan’s just achin’ for a taste of ufc gold.
"In a sport dominated by wrestlers, a striker is the best." -Lesnar's striking coach
3-0-1 when it comes to sig bets
I think Dan should have kept out of it
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After a while its get sort of annoying and frustrating. Even hurtful for alot of guys, especially ones who have put all they have into this sport.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That's understandable
But why ‘toughman’ a fan like that? He’s allowed to have an opinion without Dan calling him worthless or meaningless like Dan is implying here.
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Maybe his delivery is questionable but damn, imagine if you just put in 10 years of training, injuries, fights, letdowns, etc and you want to put on these great performances for your fans to help the sport grow and each time you go online you see stuff like “Hendo sux, he gasses everytime” “All he has is an overhand” “You dont deserve shit or title fights” etc.
I watched a Ed Soares interview where he talks about reading online and how it hurts his feelings. Like when he reads when Nog loses “Nog is done, zombie nog, Nog is closer to death then a title” then when Nog wins “Nogs back, Nog will beat X fighter, Nog is a legend”
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That's showbiz
And those same fans are paying their bills, so suck it up. When a customer of mine tells me a delivery was late or I’ve fucked up a shipment, I take it. I don’t send an email to them telling them their lives are pointless and I’m better than them.
I just don’t get why any public figure (Dan and Nog need us to watch them) would get angry at fans. Did they expect every fan to like them? Did they think MMA was sacred and fans wouldn’t ever talk shit about them? If you’re going to get angry about haters, why actively search for their opinions?
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It is a little different then jobs like yours. They are putting their health and well being on the line. That is something much more extreme. It is just a little hurtful.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It should not be, though. Some things are said and should not hold any weight because one knows that the person commenting has very little insight.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I agree 100% with all of you on this but the thing is there are times where its less bearable then others. I have had days where I say to myself seriously… Ill never read the comment sections again. Then there are days where I laugh about it all.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay is a new product tester at the world's largest extreme dildo manufacturer
How dare you say he doesn’t put his health on the line at his job!
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Not to mention that he probably cracked a tooth or 2 testing out the durability said dildos.
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I think Chael Sonnen said it best
when he said being a fighter is a luxury and there are people out there with bigger problems. Chael didn’t complain much about his suspension, he sucked it up like a man.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Henderson's sense of entitlement is getting pretty annoying pretty fast.
He wants the winner of Bones/Rampage while asking Rashad to wait longer for his opportunity which he EARNED. Now he feels like he deserves a rematch against the Spider because he survived one round with him.
Id rather see Hendo at LHW.
MW is to blah for him. There are exciting matches for him at LHW. I say give him Page if he loses.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
I like Hendo but I think thats pretty on the money
I’ve heard alot of noise recently from Hendo and he seems to believe he’s entitled to any fight he wants. Doesn’t seem to realise fighters in the ufc have actually been climbing the ranks since he left and theres other people that are more deserving
Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...
Riding a streak towards the end of his career trying to secure a nice pre-retirement pay day?
How can you blame him?
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Because I am openly an Anderson Silva nuthugger and I will order all his fights
and I would rather not wait x amount of months to order a fight and see Silva finish some guy that has no gas tank at MW.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He just finished Fedor
Albeit an aging shade of what Fedor used to be, but still…. he’s the most qualified guy right for a MW title shot now.
smh
"In a sport dominated by wrestlers, a striker is the best." -Lesnar's striking coach
3-0-1 when it comes to sig bets
Werdum just beat Fedor
Give him a LW shot while we’re at it.
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He beat Fedor over a year ago.
He doesn’t deserve a title shot anymore.
by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
seems like at least one fight in the UFC at 185 is in order...
Funny that we r all arguing about who gets a second crack at AS… You all lost. Nobody deserves an immediate title shot without beating the other top contender. Regardless of your strikeforce accomplishments, get in line.
This will not stand man, this aggression will not stand!
by RearNakedToke on Sep 15, 2011 2:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
respect... to the roider
ok, now that is out my system, yeah fuck diva silva, he’s avoiding the rematch
pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this
lol
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3-0-1 when it comes to sig bets
All Danagos hard work has finally paid off!
This article is surely reffering to him…theres not bigger troll in the game! Good work buddy!
Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...
Phuck you Dan
It’s called an opinion and you shouldn’t call somebody a moron that you don’t know. He should be bigger than to disrespect a fan like that. For all Dan knows any one of us could be very successful individuals in our own right. And besides Dan’s slow ass will get clowned again. He’d suffer his first tko loss if they rematch.
I agree OM20
It’s cool for him to state why he should get a rematch. But why disrespect somebody that you don’t know and who is just stating their opinion. Even if that person talked smack about you, who gives a phuck. Keep it in perspective.
I agree with you and OM20. Good points.
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Dan did absolutely nothing to Anderson in their first fight
when he had him down in the first round. He doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of landing that right hand on Anderson. Anderson could see that shit coming and have his head six feet from that punch by the time it went by. What is going to change in a rematch? Dan’s got nothing for him. Tremendous cardio, an explosive double leg and top notch submission defense are what can beat Anderson. If GSP was a natural middleweight he’d beat Anderson 8 or 9 out of 10 times.
got to agree with u Adam T
but Sonnen is gonna take his belt anyway
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
ok then im third
that would without coubt be my greates mma moment ever!
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Absolutely love me some Sonnen
and I don’t care if I get hated on for it.
You 3 better pitch in and buy a big supply of tissue boxes because Sonnen will never beat Andy. He will not be able to duplicate that performance.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
why he did it against Okami and Nate
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
I'd be happy as hell too
But not nearly as happy as I was when Werdum choked Fedor into submission. That was great.
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We love thee, smiling land.
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Yes that takes some topping
but for me nothing will beat Dan’s punch that launched a thousand gifs from UFC 100.
recently i loved nog koing schaub
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Same, AD. Same. Now if Mayhem can choke out Bisping until he turns purple and then shits in his shorts - I will feel complete as an MMA fan.
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it is going to happen.
I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak
sig bet? no way Miller wins
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Miller handles him, man handles that is.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
he wont sub him but wins a comfortable dec
better hands,better cardio,good enough tdd to keep it on its feet.the si bets there guys
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
About as much as he had it with Hendo...
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Except Miller couldn't knock his way out of a paper bag
Bisping by decision
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
Neither one of them is going to have a mark on them when it's over.
You won’t be able to tell if they’ve even been in a fight.
I guarantee there won’t be a KO.
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REally?
You guys taking Miller? Sub I’m guessing?
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against Bizz. Hells. Yes.
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not happening Bisping by unanimous decision.
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
Yup
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And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.
yup
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
If the fight is in the UK, I am inclined to agree. If not in the UK then Mayhem takes this.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
I was taking Bisping...but after seeing that picture of him bloated up, makes me doubt him.
but im still leaning to a fat Bisping.
"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz
I will take him for a decision actually
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i see it going the same way
Sila starts off slow so Sonnen will definitely get hold of him early and take him down,beat him up a bit and tire him out so its possible.I dont see why its out of the question.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Too many questions about Sonnen's physical attributes.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King
Thanks Jay
You CANNOT strike with Anderson, period. Nobody at LHW can strike with Anderson, much less MW. And I hate the phucker. It’d make my mma life if somebody lit that phucker up but it ain’t happening.
Dan Henderson is the fucking man
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When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.
I figured I would try my hand at matchmaking
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Dan's a whiny bitch.
I’m sick of listening to him complain all the time. Why would he even respond in the first place? And how is silva ducking him? It’s clearly documented silva was hurt before the fight with okami, the ufc knew all about it. He said he was taking time off right after the fight at the press conference. Silva only has a few fights left, he doesn’t feel dan deserves a rematch. It’s not like the first fight was even close, he laid on silva for 2 rounds then got dropped and submitted. Beating up a few cans shouldn’t get you a rematch, dan should beat a top contender first, like sonnen’s doing.
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wouldnt call them cans, come on now. As much as im not a fan of Fedor he is not a can, Calvacante is dangerous also, Renato not so much
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
Sobral is still dangerous. Calvacante is also a legit guy who will become champion again at some point in SF.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i know he is dangerous definately
i said that wrong
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
LoOk Dan
I have no problem u calling out a troll.I wish more fighters would write on the these threads that I know they read. YOur last performance at 185lbs was pitiful and your last fights at 205lbs were terrific. A few 205lbrs have stepped up at 185lbs since yr departure, Sonnen, Stann n’ Munoz. YOu havent fought either of them… if u want another shot at anderson, have 1 more fight at 185lbs first against any of those guys… I’d prefer to see u at 205lbs IMO, there’s lots more interesting fights for u there.
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I'm no Bisping fan but I'd feel terrible for the guy if he got his wish
Anderson could put his hands down and throw jabs and knock out Bisping when he wanted. I’d feel genuinely sorry for Michael.
I'll be the first to admit that GSP hasn't been the most exciting fighter in the world
recently BUT he is the #1 p4p fighter in the world. As I said above he’d beat Anderson 8 or 9 times out of 10 if he was a natural middleweight. The key there being natural middleweight not a guy who cuts pretty easily to welterweight. He’s the exact kryptonite for Anderson. And Condit nor Diaz have shit for him.
il be the first to admit that you are not the first to admit
and no he isn’t. and no he wouldnt.
Whatchoo talkin 'bout Willis, I love tea and crumpets! What of it biatch.
“Skooter, the difference between you and me is that while you sit at your computer and make ignorant statements while hiding behind an anonymous screen name, I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I’ve been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson’s nuts? Tell me where you work so I can come watch, and whenever you have a bad day I’ll demand that you get fired with no opportunity to redeem yourself. Sound fair? I’ve gone 6-1 since the Anderson fight, with wins in three weight classes against world-class competition. Considering my recent success along with my career accomplishments, I think I’ve pretty much earned the right to call out anyone in the world—and I believe I’ve demonstrated over the course of my career that I have a better than average chance of beating whomever it is I choose to call out. Whether you like it or not, Anderson and his management have done their best to avoid a rematch. I think I’ve proven myelf worthy to face him again, and if he believes I’m such an easy fight, why not take the payday? I would not have left the UFC if it wasn’t obvious that Anderson was avoiding a second fight, and he’s doing it again.”
FAG!!!
circa regna tonat
by sir.tickleberry on Sep 15, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
GSP is Sonnen
with better striking, cardio and top notch BJJ. The only edge I’d give Sonnen is chin, he
s a one tough bastard. Look I didn’t say he’d finish him but he would beat him more often than not.
Hendo via KO!
How can anyone not love this guy.
And hes fuckn 40
I'm better then whatever your best at. Come get some!
I HOPE HENDO READS THIS
Hendo has accomplished a lot of things is a sport and I respect his accomplishments but for him to say the anderson silva is ducking him is simply ridiculous I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes and I’m not going to speculate but as a united states soldier who is a huge fan of mma I am sick and tired of fighters claiming that other fighters are ducking them especially if I do like anderson silva. There is no logic It just makes no fucking sense whatsoever. If dan henderson Doesn’t like this comment And question my accomplishments well that’s fine I’m a to time combat veteran. I’m not saying I’m a war hero Or anything like that But I put my life on the line for this country Twice And I’m not talking about sitting behind a desk Also known as A "fobbit " in my opinion is far more dangerous then mixed martial arts. Like I said I don’t know will goes on behind the scenes But doesn’t dana white And lorenzo makes the fights not the fighter. Once again I got respect for hendo but the whole anderson silva ducking him is some fucking bullshit I would really like to hear your response mister henderson with all due respect
by nathaniel gray jr on Sep 15, 2011 4:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like you and all Dan Henderson...
…but you can’t just be jumping line all the time…there are other fighters in the UFC at 185lbs that are ahead of you…either wait your turn or move on…stop being spoiled!
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hendo earned his shot at ufc 100. no one is in front of him.
hendo/sonnen/anyone at . those are the only fights silva needs to take.205
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 15, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hendo, Belfort and Miller
all deserve a title shot. Spider is way over rated IMO.
Win or Lose, Still a Big Fan of Vitor Belfort
well, if you are a fan of conan(and who isn't) all i can say is about fucking time hendo!!!!!
i’ve been saying this for years along with a few other posters who don’t have selctive memories and remember the fake injury anderson pulled when it was anounced that he would be fighting hendo again.
since he has been reading my post and taking my talking points, allow me to inforn everyone how hendo can win and offer my training services to hendo for the fight.let me say this first: the only way to beat anderson is to fight himlike a regular man. anderson silva isconsidered the best p4p fighter in the world because he is a great fighter. if you further elevate him by worshiping his skill you have mentally created an opponent to powerful to overcome. for years people did this with fedor. once the armor was chipped, fedor’s aura fell apart.this has happened with roy jones and anderson silva too. all it takes is a challenger with no fear. if hendo believes silva is ducking him, then he isn’t scared of the man.
how hendo can win: hendo’s greatest asset is his wrestling and power when used in combination to rough guys up during transitions. he isn’t going to outstrike fedor on the feet, but he can outstrike him during transitions and as anderson tries to get up after takedowns. the torpedo h-bomb used to ko fedor and the way he battered franklin against the cage would work against silva.
dan’s strategy needs to be to take silva down often and look for opportunities to drop bombs during standups and take down attempts. he should also be able to deliver more damage against anderson via gnp than sonnen, but i beliee transistions will be his key to victory.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 15, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
Ridiculous.
Dan doesn’t have the cardio to keep taking silva down in a five round fight. He won’t be able to land that right hand, he threw it over and over in the first fight and didn’t come close to landing it. Even if he survives a round or two, he’ll get ko’d or sub’d eventually.
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by MMA Boss on Sep 15, 2011 9:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i don't think the fight would go to a decision. I think Hendo finishes it early with that strategy
he can’t land it in the standup, the spider is too good, but during transitions he is as vunerable as any fighter.
by Conan the Barbarian on Sep 15, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
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