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WWE star Triple H says UFC fights can be 'long and boring' and that MMA 'needs to evolve'

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Mixed martial arts fans who like to open fire on the pro wrestling industry just got a fresh round of ammunition.

That's because World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) star Paul Levesque, who goes by the in-ring name of "Triple H," doesn't believe his product needs to evolve in the wake of Ultimate Fighting Championship's (UFC) surge in global popularity.

In fact, he thinks it's the other way around, as he explains to MMA Fighting:

"I don't see us needing to evolve to what UFC does because quite frankly sometimes the fights are long and boring, guys lying around and sometimes the fights are fast and over in five seconds. I've always thought one of the things about us, if you look at us solely from a sports standpoint, is that we always give you a good show. We're never going to give you a crap game. I think if anybody needs to evolve, it's them. Give more of an entertainment standpoint. Give more form; they just have fighters who walk in in T-shirts and shorts and just stand there and then they fight and then they win and then they go "thanks, I'd like to thank my sponsors" and then they leave. The whole world was up in arms when Brock was flipping people off and was cussing at the beer company because they didn't give him any money and everyone thought, "oh my god, he's disrespectful," -- the whole world was talking about it. They couldn't wait to see him get beat up. And then he did well, and he beat some guys and then people jump on his bandwagon going 'Brock's the greatest.' I'm good friends with Floyd Mayweather and Floyd would be the first to tell ya, 'I make the most money in boxing and I have the biggest buyers because I have the biggest mouth.' He'd be the first guy to tell you that. That's what it's about. Sports is entertainment."

From a programming perspective, the WWE and UFC compete for the same demographic and despite a completely different product, the layperson, historically, often lumps the two brands together.

Star-divide

Both entities are driven by the pay-per-view model, something WWE has done with great success since the debut of Wrestlemania way back in the mid-1980's.

It should come as no surprise then, to learn that UFC President Dana White keeps close ties with WWE Chairman Vince McMahon, even paying him a recent visit in Stamford, Connecticut, to talk turkey and "bounce some stuff off him."

One of this sport's worst kept secrets is how many mixed martial arts fans have been (and still are) fans of professional wrestling, though few would admit it due to the Scarlett letter that gets assigned upon such an admission.

But if you are indeed a fan of both, what do you make of Triple H's comments? Can the sport of MMA improve its product by embracing more of the entertainment aspect?

Or should it abandon it all together?

Would you prefer to have a roster full of Rich Franklins or Quinton Jacksons? Or somewhere in between?

Opinions, please.

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moron.

That is all.

by meed55 on Sep 15, 2011 11:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He is actually a very intelligent. Married Vince’s daughter, now has share in the company.

Wish I would have been that smart.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

another point well made for ANS, who the fuck are these fans to call HHH an idiot anyway, what he said is true. do we wanna watch jon fitch and clay guida hump some people? or do we wanna see demain maia slapping on a triangle from mount, or anderson silva giving a facial to vitor belfort? most of the people calling HHH a moron are the same people saying the UFC should add the old pride yellow card rule anyway..

and you know what they should!

by ibeffudled on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

That ""facial" to Vitor got knockout of the night,

there’s many gifs about it and people still talk about it today. I don’t think anyone would call it boring or not watchable.

by Armando Baez on Sep 15, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think "ibeffudled" was calling it boring

I think you might want to read that one again.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind watching either Fitch or Guida

I don’t blame them for their opponents inability to come up with a gameplan for an attack which is no secret and they should know is coming. Shame on them for having training camps that revolved only around what they planned on doing and not how to deal with what Fitch and Guida were going to do.

As far as evolving for entertainment, I think a little more pre fight and post fight banter will be a good thing. I mean unless its a big superfight, somethimes it’s hard to get excited about a C or B level fight especially one without any prefight hype between the two fighters. Example being, I was more pumped to see the Dan Hardy/Marcus Davis fight than I was to see the Matt Hamel/Mark Munoz fight strictly because of the prefight rukus. Most of the time the fights don’t live up to the hype but we still couldn’t wait to see them

by getrawbc on Sep 15, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think there is a way to plan around something like that?

if there was, guida and fitch would never win. the thing with a style like that is that it shouldn’t be allowed and it is a bad example of mma, simply cause it’s not mma.

the big problem they have in the UFC is that they still need to try to make it more competitive, less personal and less about a dude working for a company and just pure competition.

RobDeezy88 , ps3! Tito Ortiz = God !

by RoBerto. on Sep 15, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the rules in mma need to evolve so that it doesn't favor wrestlers, plain and simple.

this will fix all the boring matches which 95% exist from boring collegiate wrestlers.

by TheRassler on Sep 15, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fucking Hunter. Look if you want more pyros and lights and shit that is fine but lets leave the drama to the fight not the fighters.

Ohh and the yellow card idea is lame.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the guy is a genius and hope one day I can marry a woman who helps me own a share in a multi-million dollar company

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that correction.

Billion dollar company

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

He got some options, big whoop

I am an owner of 17 multi-billion $ corporations. The point is that anyone can own a piece of a public company for about $100.

HHH won’t see any of her money. It is protected by pre-nup and trust funds.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You dont think he has a more then just an average share of the company? And you think he wont stay married to her? Because if he does all that pre-nup and trusts mean nothing as they share money between each other.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has the amount any other executive would

the McMahon family owns 88% or so of the WWE, the memebers of the board of directors own probbly another 3%, mutual funds and private owners another 8%, leaving a combined 2% for the executives.

He owns more than my entire portfolio’s net worth, but he hardly has a “stake” in the company and has zero say in the final matters.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree that he has zero say. He has pull in the family. That goes for alot. I have heard alot of stories from cageside about how political it gets and HHH always comes out on top.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am talking company, not product.

All executives have say over their own branding and product development. HHH is the same.

HHH could not decied to refinance any of the debt on the company without Vince’s approval. Or acquire another company without stockholder approval.

One is product, one is company. HHH has little, to no, say in the Company.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well in that case then yes, I get that.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

and nevermind the fact his two projects failed miserably

kong (kharma]?) is having kid so she’s out for 9 months, sin cara (mistico) has an attitude backstage and is not liked, on top of doing roids and getting caight. Oh, and does awful matches too.

so i’d say hhh power within the company isn’t that great

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously it is to bring them in as projects. Shows he has power.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, if he had any to begin with

he just lost it

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's thinking long term with Cara

Rey aint gonna be around forever and the wwe’s target audience (under 5’s nowadays lol) love a masked superstar doing crazy moves. Could be a shrewd move.

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You would be very stupid to do that.

Only a moron marries for money, these kids are right.

by danago on Sep 15, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know if you know this guys story but damn is it a good one

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, I would marry Opera tomorrow. Lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also enjoy a good opera

But how would you marry one?

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol, did I mess up her name?

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think her name is OPrah

Or something. Opera is a performed art.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, well there went my shot at her. Cant even spell her name. Oprah sounds better as I spell it out Lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

fixed
Opera is a performed art.

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd marry Oprah and tounge her ass twice an hour

She shits money, so some of that could be mine.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt marry a woman solely on money, well unless she was Oprah. However, it would be a plus for her to pay for the first meal. Lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do know how she looks like right? You would need a dick droid to take the place of your real one. She is ALCOHOL on the OJR scale.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth." - Stephen King

by OJR on Sep 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

just go the Irish route

stay drunk all day. Easy.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

works for me

BTW, anyone try this Bacardi Oakheart on the side bar?

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t, but I clicked the ad, it just went to facebook, which I don’t have. I will be picking some up though.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

nor a big spiced rum fan

so let me know.

My new mixed drink of choice is a whipped cream vodka and orange crush tastes just like a creamsicle popsicle. Girlish, but oh so tasty.

Need about a months before I will be making freshly juiced bloody mary’s.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

whipped cream vodka??? Man. I may have to try that. I have been drinking Captain’s and 7up lately.

I want to make bacon flavored bloody mary’s. I saw this bar who “infused” vodka with bacon and used that for them (they basically took a thick cut piece of bacon, massaged it into the bottle and let it sit for like a week. Sounds so damn good.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is a local distillery here

filtered 6 times, guaranteed no hang over. Can’t remember the name right now, but went to a tasting and it was primo over ice. Better than grey goose, not quite Tito’s, but cheaper than both.

I have seen ads for the bacon vodka, but I am a purist for my bloody mary’s. I have been using the same recipe, ingredient wise, for many years. The only change has been to the juice content. Suprisingly, juiced cucumbers work remarkably well with tomatos and vodke.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you use the Jack Lalane to get your Bloody Mary’s done. Can I get a recipe? I will use it to make some for football on Sunday.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The juice is a bit different every time as I am still not happy with the results

but roughly.

10 -15 tomatos, I use the plum tomatos as they juice better with less seeds.
1/2 english cucumber – more mild taste
1 orange or yellow pepper – greens are too strong.
1 tomatillo – very ripe.
2 sticks celery
freshly ground peppercorns and coriander
pinch of sea salt
big dash of celery salt
big, big dash of Old Bay seasoning
worscestshire sauce to color
tsp of horseradish (or less)

Shake and add vodka to desired strength. Garnish with a celery stalk for stiring.

Don’t let it sit too long, the water will separate from the veggie juice nad it will look nasty and you will sip a veggie mush on the top of the drink. Not sure what they put into tomato juice in stores that prevents this.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

(this makes more than one)

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn, forgot the heat

I also have tried:
1 jabanero pepper – too hot
1 jalapeno pepper – too hot
1 hungarian hot wax pepper – not hot enough

So I have just been adding Frank’s red hot for heat until I can find some fresh cayenne peppers.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you take the seeds out of the jalapeno? The seeds and veins have most of the heat.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet

going to try this or a variation of this on Sunday.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.pinnaclevodka.com/flavors

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know OJR, a billion dollars may change your tune. Lol, now if it was Rosie O’Donnell or something … but Oprah isnt THAT ugly to not get with when money is involved. I would be her male stripper.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could you really pity me if I did marry her?

And would I care?

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go ahead send Dan a million dollars for his sympathy

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed.

I’d marry Oprah and tounge her ass twice an hour
She shits money, so some of that could be mine.
Pity Shitty

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by Kevin Haggerty on Sep 15, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

racist that Oprah is

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

HHH is The Cerebral Assassin. And I love the yellow card idea. These wrestlefuckers who come in with no ability or intention of finishing a fight, but to only hold a guy down for 15 minutes need to be sent packing. If it takes point/purse deductions to get that message across then I’m all for it.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

How about just proper referee training to know the proper time for stand ups

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

+14 1/2

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well if someone goes the Jake O’Blanket-Heath Herring route, it’s takedown, hold for 30 seconds, stand-up and repeat. It’s an awful fight, but there is no choice but to give O’Blanket a win, so where is the incentive for him to actually fight or the disincentive to not LnP? It’s in point and pay deductions.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wont happen.

Then maybe someone, or alot of people should learn to wrestle. Easy enough.

If you get taken down multiple times in a fight then you dont deserve the decision. All fighters know wrestling dominates the MMA world yet so many fail to do anything about it.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

YEP

It’s easier to complain about wrestlers than it is to learn to wrestle.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Which is the problem. Fans will agree with fighters who complain about the rules when these have been the rules for nearly a decade. Unified rules arent going anywhere.

In this sport the evolution moves fast and if you arent well rounded or have the skills to nullify wrestling then you dont deserve to be the winner.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care if someone relies on a strong amateur wrestling background, so long as they use it for something other than to hold a guy down in full guard. Those people are every bit as 1-dimensional as the guys you say should stop the takedowns if they don’t like them. why should their dimension be rewarded more than the the others?

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 very well put

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because their dimension results in winning?
why should their dimension be rewarded more than the the others?

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, octagon control. They made the offensive choice to make the fight go there. And as long as they stay there they are in dominant position.

Which is why guys need to learn simple escapes. I swear if everyone learned the SIMPLE little technique Hendo used on Fedor people would be better off. You start there… that doesnt work? Even more simple, you learn some jiu jitsu and try a sweep.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or work your TDD and don't end up on your back

If you want to fight on your feet, you should learn a way to stay on them.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chuck did a nice job of it, as did Mirko. You learn to sprawl, you work on hip movement and reaction time. Your reflexes. Working to establish underhooks and upper body strenght.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEp

And that’s why I liked them.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

fixed
If you want to fight on your feet, you should learn a way to stay on them.the ground you should fight on the ground, not just hold down your opponent

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

The top guy should always be moving, trying to finish the fight.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also agree. Except that doesnt mean punching without discipline. If the top guy isnt striking or looking to pass then he should be stood up.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no need for a yellow card either. If the fighter does this repeatedly then the well trained referee should warn him the next time he stalls there will be a point taken.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

I like that as well. I think a point should be taken for stalling. 100%.

No cards. One warning.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. No need to take money, make them lose the fight. That fight with Lentz vs I think Demarquez.. if he would have been warned in the first he would have been deducted points in round 2 and 3.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s really been my point all along. Yes, I know wrestling is a huge part of MMA traning UFC. But there is a huge difference between offensive wrestling and just stalling. Stalling has no place in MMA. Basketball has a shot clock, football has a play clock, MMA needs something similar.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

only because the judges don't know their shit

and they tend to score the match by wrestling rules.

take down your opponent +1
pin him +10 round won
check oil +10 and locker room bonus

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No actually they score properly.

Takedown… hmm he made the fight go where he wanted offensively. The guy from underneath cant get up.. hmm that means the top guy is controlling the fight.

round winner… top guy.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Takedown… hmm he made the fight go where he wanted offensively. now if he could just fucking throw a punch, the round would be his. Alas these fucking wrestlerfuckers think a shoulder hump should be considered a strike

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is a strike.

It does so many things. Doesnt allow the bottom guy to create distance… distance is a valuable tool for both top and bottom fighters. It distracts the fighter, irritates them to not be fully focused on escaping. It applies pressure to prevent the bottom fighter from gaining any sort of composure and frustrates them which is huge mentally.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It results in winning why? Because Cecil fucking People says it does? The wrestlefucker could, and many times has, spent the entire fight on top defending submissions and inflicting no damage but winning a decision. How is that right? Oh right, you’re a GSP fan.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No because he is controlling the fight. Easy as that.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither is the guy on the bottom

He’s been held down against his will. If purple nurples and titty twisters or wet willies were allowed, he be getting those too.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is fighting. It is MMA. The bottom guy can hit him, submit him or sweep him.

If you cant do any of that you dont belong in there.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the guy on top can't pass, submit or ko he doesn't belong in there either

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every fight?

That makes no sense. So don’t take someone down if you can’t stop them.

So kickboxers should retire the first fight they don’t KO someone?

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, no point in having them fight if they lack ko power :)

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean if the guy on bottom cant get up from underneath, cant sweep someone or cant submit someone let alone not defend a takedown then he is in the wrong sport.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I know is this.

When I was a young whipper-snapper, being put on your ass and forced to say uncle to the older brother, cousin, friend, whatever….that was being put in your place. If I can’t get up, I got beat. Simple really.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t pay to watch that either. Unless you were both about 16 or so. And shirtless. Wait, what?

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

nice

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the guy on the bottom should win?

Why? What did he do that was so impressive? You don’t think being able to control what another person does for 15 minutes is hard to do?

1 punch from top position is worth 50 from bottom.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Instead of a post like this, maybe voice your opinion and argument. Instead if looking like a fool.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just said one from the top is worth 50 from the bottom ...

That’s the root problem of why boring fights reward okay fighters who can wrestle and why people get pissed at the judges .
What’s in your ass today ANS ?

by wooly shambler on Sep 15, 2011 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pretty sweet claim. Took limited talent and athleticism and became the top of the company.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer his as well. But for all the Rock did to maximize talent, Paul maximized his revenue by just getting deep into the family.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, that's uncalled for

stephanie doesn’t like it when you go deep, she just wants to feel the tip ;)

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I agree overall OJR…

HHH is the boss now so regardless of what you feel towards him or respect him he is one of the most powerful men in his business. The Rock is just powerful to the fans.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's chairman only storyline wise

he’s got a few more years ahead of him to truly be powerful inside wwe. Sure, he can pull strings with steph but he’s not replacing vince anytime soon… unless the old man expires (this time not storyline-wise)

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not talking story line. But from what I know is he holds loads of power in the company just with his relationship with his father in law.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much did the Rock do to earn his spot in the WWE in the first place OJR??

I’m sure being a third generation WWE star sure helped on his climb up the greasy pole!

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It helped but he had to get over on his own. Remember when the the Rock first came out.

On Shotgun Saturday night the fans were chanting DIE ROCKY DIE. he had to change and so he turned Heel, joined the Nation of Domination, and exagerated his true persona X’s a 1000. That was the start of him getting OVER with the fans.

I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
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by dandeman on Sep 15, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

But much of what he just said was stupid……first with this comment " if you look at us solely from a sports standpoint, is that we always give you a good show." for one Paul what you do is not “sport” you have a predetermined outcome so in that regard you can not compare it to the UFC. Secondly a lot of the reason people were up in arms is because most of the MMA fighters come from a martial arts background where they learn respect for their opponent so when Brock comes in riding Herring like a horse or pointing in his face laughing or shit talking about everything from sponsors to other fighters it does cause a negative reaction because it’s not the norm and it sticks out much more….look at guys like Bisping or Kos or any of the guys who act that way they are disliked by many MMA fans similarly to how Brock is.

by Modusopks on Sep 15, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree hhh is business savy

and i would love to see the ufc bring more to the entrance and fighter profile side of things ,and promos before fights that way u can create rivalrys and nothing sells better than two fighters who really dislike each other and want nothing more than TO GET IT OOOONNN!!! pride was good for that with the big entrances and in massive arena’s, And if were all honest ,when we were kids we all watched wwf with hogan and warrior and the feeling u got watching wrestle mania ,But i always used to say wouldnt it be awesome if they actually punched each other for real .Now the ufc have what we all wanted ,“as real as it gets” but they need to create fighters we can enjoy the ride with, Follow the ups and downs with a passion, There is a few like that now with a history behind them but i feel they struggle to bring up and comers through with the same effect ,Once the old guard finally retire and there’s no originals left and pride legends, we may hit a stagnant period unless dana steps it up a level with big arena’s 50’000 -60,000+ fans all the macheezmo that goes with it . Just feel we need more its all a bit clinical at the minute, we need the pride entrances and build up i want a ufc ppv to have all the build up and bells and whistles that wrestlemania has . and i think thats why danas been visiting uncle vince. Learn how he can electrify the whole show make it a bigger spectacle …just sayin ,by the way , i love the ufc but u can always improve a product .

"There are three classes of people those that see,those that see when they are shown and those that do not see at all"

by brocksweatytrunks on Sep 15, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is a moron.

His walkout to the ring and spray water bit takes forever and is the most tedious thing in wrasslin’.

"Seriously, who taught you how to punch? Your husband?" - Pam Poovey, H.R. administrator for I.S.I.S.

by Greenbeard on Sep 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

you must have not seen wrestlemania 27

his entrance was the stupidiest thing ever. Also taker’s entrance is fucking boring and longer than it should be

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give me the Ultimate Warriors entrance anyday

Blink and you’ll miss it and 1000% testosterone from start to finish! The crowds couldn’t get enough!

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 best eva!!

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Sep 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been a long time reader of this blog but this is the first time I am posting. I follow both wrestling and MMA. Triple H is crazy if he thinks the UFC and the sport of MMA need to evolve based on the entertainment aspect. The only evolution MMA needs right now is to educate referees to break up fighters who are stalling (either on the ground or on the feet) and encourage them to reduce points or yellow card them (like Pride) the next time they do it.

I’ve always hated Triple H – too much of a politician and backstabber in his day. But since becoming a part time wrestler and being more in charge of storyline stuff, he’s tried to buildup wrestlers like they should be.

And best entrance has to be Stone Cold!!! Stone Cold!!! Stone Cold!!!

by mmafan4life on Sep 15, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Triple H (and any "professional wrestler" who thinks that) are retarded

I think its bad enough that they make corny MMA movies with fighters let alone acting like idiots for “entertainment”

Danago should be banned from mmamania

by COOLKALE91 on Sep 15, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Come on man, they're cool.

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now that wasn’t fake, That was Pure jiu jitsu. Ya know the kind he’s teaching in Tampa right now.

by SprucesWild on Sep 15, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liddell: 'I'll fight anyone, Silva? Yeah sure, Quinton Jackson? Sure, Randy Couture? Sure'

Reporter: 'What about Fedor Emelianenko?'

Liddell: 'Well if I'll have to...I'll fight him...if I have to'

by tkotom on Sep 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

i guess you can make anythiing look good when its fake lol

by big_shogun on Sep 15, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

How are you going to call wrestling a sport?

Donald Cerrone on Jamie Varner:
"You can't take the bitch outta somebody that's just in em, it's in their soul brother."

by kwyjibohunter on Sep 15, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

pro wrestling...

…i mean

Donald Cerrone on Jamie Varner:
"You can't take the bitch outta somebody that's just in em, it's in their soul brother."

by kwyjibohunter on Sep 15, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

what..they should introduce chairs into the cage...

the corner guys could leave the stools and ice buckets and it could be fair game in a fight…sigh i will never understand wwe wrestling..it could be my vagina that is the problem.(though i could be wrong and maybe lots of chicks like it??).it is just a strange thing to me..like watching pretend humping over real sex or something..

by sarah- on Sep 15, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

GREAT response sarah.. lmao

I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac

by Roger81 on Sep 15, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your vagina is not the problem. Don’t ever say that again. WWE is a soap opera for men, if they can accept it for what it is. Sometimes we get boring fights, sometimes WWE has boring matches. It happens. I do miss angry trash-talking Brock and want him to come back in place of humble, respectful, post-diverticulitis Brock, so in that regard HHH is right.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaa

"What are you gonna do, hit him? No, that's a terrible idea, I'll tell you why.. it doesn't unbang your mom. "

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Sep 15, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"What are you gonna do, hit him? No, that's a terrible idea, I'll tell you why.. it doesn't unbang your mom. "

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Sep 15, 2011 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Let me translate for you...

I understand where he is coming from, PARTICULARLY with casual fans. Fans want Griffin/Bonnar 1. Fans want epic battles, back and forths, etc. — something which pro wrestling delivers in spades (even if it is staged).

Let’s be honest. Triple H is saying MMA needs more Genki Sudo!

by AngryTwinkie on Sep 15, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

WAR NEO SAMURAI

Gono, Miller and King Mo can all go suck a lemon.

Resist Much, Obey Little.

by Reedy on Sep 15, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Angry Twinkie

Your user name = win

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

It all goes back to when I first started playing video games with a team in college. I’m half Korean, and my neighbor was half Vietnamese. She said we were twinkies — yellow on the outside, white on the inside. I laughed, and started playing under the name Twinkie.

Well, I went to register Twinkie as my gamer tag on Xbox Live… and some fucker had already taken it! Grrrr! Hence, AngryTwinkie.

by AngryTwinkie on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Annnnnnd he promptly kills any and all mystique. Good job.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not one for mystique

I like facts and evidence!

Plus, the term Twinkie can have a COMPLETELY different connotation… and that ain’t my thing.

by AngryTwinkie on Sep 15, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least we won't call you a ding dong. Black all over with white filling.

I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
X Box Gamertag: OneRabidDingo

by dandeman on Sep 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vagina's they can be such a hassle sometimes.. lol
it could be my vagina that is the problem

I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac

by Roger81 on Sep 15, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I though I escaped the vagina Monologues

I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
X Box Gamertag: OneRabidDingo

by dandeman on Sep 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's room for smack-talk

 to hype a fight, but when you begin to put “entertainment” twists into the competition itself- I think personally that you de-value the product. Remember, the main difference between MMA and WWE is that one is a real sport, and the other is a show. You cannot take “boring” fights and “5-sec” fights out of the equation, because it’s unpredictable, not scripted. So, what he’s asking for is basically to start fixing fights to make them more appealing. I don’t want to attract entertainment fans, but true sport fans.

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

True Nick Diaz is the closest thing to that.. but he is still cool..

I devise a plan,
I'm in the trunk as she drives the van,
Aint no disguise, Imma die as a man-- Tupac

by Roger81 on Sep 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea cause Sonnen is nothing like that

I don't really need a sig anymore..cause gyverbob follows me around and replies faster than my sig can display..

by HellaHectic on Sep 15, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does he mean boring like those badly-acted (and badly written) rants and “feuds” from his show? If anything needs to evolve it’s pro rasslin’! Should have followed the original ECW template a decade ago (before Vince neutered it).
At the least watching MMA is exciting because they really are trying hit each other (and not fake a chair shot)!

by pstrkelly on Sep 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Comparing WWE to MMA

… why? Only idiots would see them as similar. I mean, for real. Let triple-haytch come in and tell Cain or JDS what they’re doing wrong. Maybe he’ll win via pedigree.

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Belcher beat Cote with a Pedigree.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Urijah did some insane piledriving move in the WEC once. Rampage used a powebomb to finish Arona.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

and i heard jon jones

was gonna unleash a massive leg-drop on rampage next weekend

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably an atomic drop

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remember when Dan Severn pulled the Benoit move of multiple belly-to-back suplexes?

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do. And I remember when Jon Jones did one to Bonnar as well.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did not, but I used to hang out with the recipient of those suplexes.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mad Dog Macias???

It was none other than WWE veteran Al Snow.

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s him. Funny story — I once went to this bar near SMU with Mad Dog, a dude who was about 6’2 and 280 pounds, another guy who was kind of a wuss but had long hair and looked scary, and me, 6’1 185 at the time. A couple SMU preppies were eye-balling us for a while, then their girlfriends came over to tell us we were sitting in their booth. We told them their boyfriends were welcome to come over and take it back.They did not, so we sat and drank beer and laughed at them until we felt like leaving.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice story

but what’s an SMU preppie??

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

st marys university?

MMA Mania Pool Season 4 - UFC 134 Event Winner.....hey its better than most of you did...

by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dubs is from Texas

He talking bout those damn methodists, methinks.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch that

there are Orangemen aboot.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

St. Mary's, like is San Antonio?

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i meant St Marys

as in Nova Scotia lol

MMA Mania Pool Season 4 - UFC 134 Event Winner.....hey its better than most of you did...

by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry. Southern Methodist University. It’s a private school in the extraordinarily wealthy area of Highland Park in Dallas.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheers

That makes the story even better

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha… I thought so. But I figured its probably not correct and there must be another place named that.

by judopei on Sep 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like the episode of king of queens with Randy, Rampage, Trigg, Hendo and Bas

they wouldnt give their spot back

tough guys

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Triple H is right

UFC/MMA needs more fighters with personality/character to draw more attention to the sport

"I smile at foolish people who hate what I stand for.I'll continue to pray for them because they're to ignorant to pray for themselves."-letter19

by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 11:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

True 100%

We need all personalities for this sport to grow. We need the quiet guys, we need the trash talkers, we need the smart intellectual type, we need the ego driven types, we need personalities.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Diego Sanchez

is all of these things wrapped into one.

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is true..

if it was all totally plain across the board we may as well put fighting robots in like rock em sock em..though i don’t appreciate the douche bag types as much (chael type) they are what sparks conversation and hype around fights..and ol’ gsp with his cookie cutter responses kinda blows too..wtf now i don’t know what i want to hear outta fighters..maybe not much..i just want to watch em fight their asses off..now i will compare fighters to chicks..better to watch than to listen too..lol

by sarah- on Sep 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

There will be fans that just want to watch fights which is fine. But in a growing sport we need Chael Sonnen, Michael Bisping and the like to generate interest. A new store that opens will quickly close if they dont advertise right…

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sarah....

youd better be a hot chick or im asking for you to be banned.

Would Vitor vs Shogun not be a sick ass fight???

by PrivateBox on Sep 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watch your step little man….just watch it

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get back to work.

She can defend herself.

Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.

by Yan117 on Sep 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man the fucking hammer is coming down today en masse … I can feel it

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you must eliminate me,

aim for the head.

Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.

by Yan117 on Sep 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Put it back in your pants Holland, holster the hammer

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take a walk Junior, the grown-ups are (s)talking

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have the worst boss ever. You never even communicate with me unless it is about my sarah who you wish you had the skills to talk too..

:)

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have the greatest employee ever. He works for free, does all my bitch work and believes me when I tell him that Sarah secretly likes him.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch, you win.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

The bitchslaps are coming down you meant.

Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.

by Yan117 on Sep 15, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

George C Scott FTW!!!

“I read your book!”

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fucking Zing

Holland bringing the big guns.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously…

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to worry

I always pictured Holland tooling around with MM on the Jersey Shore. I can picture the two of them picking out bedazzled skinny jeans and doing fistpumps when they find that perfect pair.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always pictured Holland playing XBOX what was modded to play old Nintendo games while eating a slice of pizza pants unzipped and 3 day old t-shirt.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny, that is how I picture Sergio. Holland is fistpumping after breaking his lifting record at the local Y. Geno is confusing some wine drinkers after he changes the subject from the benefits of vegetarianism to swear at some Green Bay fan as his friends mutter “I can’t believe he watches that barbaric sport”. Brian….I picture him hanging out in the quiet floor of the dorm room trying to get his latest interview up and he swears about how loud the stupid frat kids are down stairs.

Tom, well, he gets to be whoever the F he wants.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe you are right lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is what is so funny..

it’s all who we perceive..and since most of us don’t know each other personally..and some of us know each other via facebook..so i have been able to put faces to names and such..but really most of us are left to just imagine who the people we shoot the shit on here are actually like..

by sarah- on Sep 15, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am very pretty in real life.

Not handsome, very pretty.

Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.

by Yan117 on Sep 15, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit

I may have blown my cover. Carry on. Nothing to see here.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good job on lifting up the mood in the money pool thread.

I had a good laugh in what was previously a depressing thread.

Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.

by Yan117 on Sep 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am trying

All of that shit is annoying.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

I think that was mean. But, to be expected.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

True story

“The Situation” and I worked together as bouncers at a bar in Jersey. You couldn’t have found a nicer guy. He was always so polite, good sense of humor, just a little warped. I’d be talking to him and in the middle of a conversation he would just pick up his shirt and ask “Bro, do my abs look ripped?”

The Jersey Shore thing was his dream, he told me after he auditioned this is what he was meant to do and he made it. I was so happy for him. But I’m not like any of those guys, I grew up in the sticks. Yee-haw! And I know how to read.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are there any other true stories we need to know of involving you, Sitch and a couple guidettes in some cesspool of a hot tub in the wee hours of the morning with a nice Jaeger buzz?

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m going to New Orleans this weekend for the fights, so stay tuned.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holland and the Situation talking Abs. This little gem needs to be put in play more often. Awesome.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was talking abs

I think I was talking astronomy. To the wrong person, clearly.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I guess that subject came out of deep space so you both did start from the same point only the divergence was far and extreme.

I've got something to say; it better to burn out than to fade away!!!
Is it really funny Mayhem, please tell me its funny.
X Box Gamertag: OneRabidDingo

by dandeman on Sep 15, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he was talkin about...

Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS) (chemical formula (C8H8)x· (C4H6)y·(C3H3N)z) is a common thermoplastic. Its melting point is approximately 105 °C (221 °F).

you just weren’t pickin up on it.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Sep 15, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I pray (for my own safety) that you googled that. If that came out of your head……I may run.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I killed that other thread

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, gotcha

I knew all that and yesterday wasn’t your fault. It would have happened eventually anyway.

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

What went down?

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing important

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahahahahaha...

well gee that seems totally fair…i have not heard much complaining about my looks..glad it should come into play on an internet forum…well privatebox..if you have been around here long enough you would know what i looked like :)

by sarah- on Sep 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

his loss.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

long time posters/stalkers know!

You’re milf cred is well established with us, the uneducated & uninitiated need not apply…exclusivity always has its benefits! Now excuse me as I duck the hammer that’s being swung around here!

I don't lose what I give away....

PS BAD LEFT HOOK is weak sauce! Boxing's answer to Bloody Elbow!
Never more than 10-15 posts on any thread, I get them up to 40 by waking those geezers and I get banned! I'm so misunderstood! Fuck it, y'all were boring anyways!

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Sep 15, 2011 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

the user names are killing it today another winner

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you kind sir! between the inhalation of Entennman's products & illicit "party favors", i earned that name well in my younger years..

But Jesse, you’re like a jealous stalking husband…Like you’re waiting in the bushes outside her job to see who Sarahs talking to on lunch break!

I don't lose what I give away....

PS BAD LEFT HOOK is weak sauce! Boxing's answer to Bloody Elbow!
Never more than 10-15 posts on any thread, I get them up to 40 by waking those geezers and I get banned! I'm so misunderstood! Fuck it, y'all were boring anyways!

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Sep 15, 2011 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

worse

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's ANS and AK standing by the car, lol.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Sep 15, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does Jesse always get to beat me up? WTF? Can I win just one?

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

goddamn!

Go ahead, might as well finish marking your territory & pee on her! I’ll stick to easy conquests like ABB…at least with him there’s no need for diamond rings & negotiation for “backyard” playtime! I conceed & withdraw!

I don't lose what I give away....

PS BAD LEFT HOOK is weak sauce! Boxing's answer to Bloody Elbow!
Never more than 10-15 posts on any thread, I get them up to 40 by waking those geezers and I get banned! I'm so misunderstood! Fuck it, y'all were boring anyways!

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Sep 15, 2011 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

backyard" playtime

Fairly confident that is EXACTLY what you will be negotiating with ABB.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you missed the bus Deuce!

With ABB there is NO negotiation/lube/ or shoe horns! He demands straight donut punching from the door! If he likes you, he let’s you tuck the balls into the mudhole too!

I don't lose what I give away....

PS BAD LEFT HOOK is weak sauce! Boxing's answer to Bloody Elbow!
Never more than 10-15 posts on any thread, I get them up to 40 by waking those geezers and I get banned! I'm so misunderstood! Fuck it, y'all were boring anyways!

by Fat Daddy Doobs on Sep 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lmfao!

No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth

by d*locc on Sep 15, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ive been here since the UFCmania days sarah.

Seems like you get a go on the looks…..pardon the interruption, carry on.

Would Vitor vs Shogun not be a sick ass fight???

by PrivateBox on Sep 17, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

But that’s why I don’t like the idea of jds vs cain on fox neither will peak the curiosity of someone who might consider watching they have zero charisma/star power/attitude

"I smile at foolish people who hate what I stand for.I'll continue to pray for them because they're to ignorant to pray for themselves."-letter19

by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That fight wont need it.

The most talked about title in all of combat sports is the Heavyweight Title. That sells itself.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

The HW title won’t sell itself that’s why the klitscho brothers struggle on ppv and don’t have fights in vegas the ufc has had dozens of HW title fights and only the ones with brock have did great numbers and that’s because brock has that star power and the ability to tap into peoples emotion to make them love or hate him and jds and cain cant/wont do that

"I smile at foolish people who hate what I stand for.I'll continue to pray for them because they're to ignorant to pray for themselves."-letter19

by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Whats funny is that for as much flack as the Klitschos get they are still notable names. People know their names for a reason.

When the JDS/Cain fight shatters the record for most watched MMA fight then I will make sure to remind you that the HW title fight free on network TV doesnt need to be sold by personalities.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

shatters record for most watched mma fight?

It won’t be because cain/jds are stars who u kidding? Bro just the fact that it will be the most heavily promoted fight in ufc history combined with the fact its showing on basic cable it should shatter records.

"I smile at foolish people who hate what I stand for.I'll continue to pray for them because they're to ignorant to pray for themselves."-letter19

by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 12:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Do you know what the most watched MMA fight is currently? Or the top ten for that matter?

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

why wouldn't I know? huh

Get to the point

"I smile at foolish people who hate what I stand for.I'll continue to pray for them because they're to ignorant to pray for themselves."-letter19

by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What is the most watched fight in MMA?

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

( letter19 running to wiki...)

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

will you please stop encouraging him to continue typing

pretty please?

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

letter19 doesn't run...

Letter19 knows the answer
Letter19 wants to know the point of the question

"I smile at foolish people who hate what I stand for.I'll continue to pray for them because they're to ignorant to pray for themselves."-letter19

by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The point is for you to answer. Since you didnt I understand.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a stupid question from the get go

And u should know I don’t answer those..

"I smile at foolish people who hate what I stand for.I'll continue to pray for them because they're to ignorant to pray for themselves."-letter19

by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 12:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny

"I smile at foolish people who hate what I stand for.I'll continue to pray for them because they're to ignorant to pray for themselves."-letter19

by letter19 on Sep 15, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

by Ulf Murphy on Sep 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a clue

It doesn’t involve Jon Fitch ;-)

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or the UFC

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

innit a kimbo fight? i thought i read that here somewhere before

by aewyfk on Sep 15, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, ding ding ding… winner winner

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think OJR knows the answer to this

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

OJR’s just jealous coz he can only dream of growing a beard as good as Kimbo’s ;-)

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think OJ just booked a ticket…..and that bronze bandit is on his way to ya. Watch yourself AD!

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The K-Bros struggle because boxing is on a serious decline, and everyone knows there is no legitimate threat to them. The UFC brand + HW title fight means automatic interest.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take that back!

Everyone knows that once David haye’s little toe is mended he’s gonna be the man to dethrone them! ;-)

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prolly won’t matter anyway, because the last thing people are going to see on Fox is probably someone getting jacked up on the undercard. And Americans can only remember the most recent history. Don’t think JDS v. Cain will go all 5.

by SprucesWild on Sep 15, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

For all you know they time it right and it ends towards the end of the broadcast. And people dont have that much of a short term memory to forget a title fight after 30 minutes. Exxagerate much?

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really an exaggeration, more of an observation. And they can’t possibly time it so it ends towards the end of the broadcast. It is going to be live. If it only lasts 2 minutes, theres 28 minutes they gotta fill. And people aren’t going to stick around and watch Joe Rogan chit chat for that long.

by SprucesWild on Sep 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

You put the fight at the 25 minute mark of the hour. The walkouts/intos take 5-6 minutes. You prep a figth 25 mins plus 1 minute rounds = 30 minutes.

So now if it ends early you are just fine. You show the replay, you interview the champ, show the replay again. At most you have 15 minutes.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

15 minutes is a long time to sit and watch someone talking. They are gonna want as much action as possible. It’s not about the first show on Fox it’s about all the subsequent shows. People gotta come back for more.

by SprucesWild on Sep 15, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats why the schdules possible exciting match ups on the undercard my friend. But beleieve me if the HW’s end in a stoppage it will be hard to forget that

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was exactly my point. The people are going to see the exciting match up last. Not the Main Event. Did you read my initial post ‘friend’? And if it ends in a triangle choke, it could for very forgettable for people who are new to the sport. You gotta remember this deal on Fox is for the football and baseball fans who are ignorant to the sport. Not you and me who already know all about it.

by SprucesWild on Sep 15, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And my initial point was that regardless noone has that short term of a memory to allow 15 minutes to go by after the HW title was just ended in a stoppage. If it was a triangle it would be amazing.

If the Klitchos ended a fight by a finish early and not 10+ rounds in they would generate much more attention.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but once again, everyone understands a blow to the head knocking people out. Few people understand WTF a triangle choke is. Especially people who are new to the sport, which is exactly who this network deal is targeting.

by SprucesWild on Sep 15, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why they now have the option of using 15 minutes to talk about what went down.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of you need to take a step back and breathe.

Nobody is comparing WWE and MMA. Nobody considers them to be the same thing. The WWE is not a sport it is sports entertainment, there are real athletes performing real moves with staged conclusions. There are plenty world class wrestlers and athletes in the WWE.

The UFC is also in the entertainment business, so the guy is right. Brock has the name he does and Floyd has the name he does because they know exactly how to get the masses to talk about them and tune in to watch their craft.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

No he didnt. He simpy talked about the model the UFC and WWE follow, the evolution and progression of each and said the WWE didnt need to change the UFC did. That isnt a comparison it is an observation.

Big difference.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

When someone brings up two products, talks about the features of each one, the positives and negatives- it’s called contrast and comparison. Well, at least that’s what I was taught in skooool

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then you were taught to ignore context.

He never compared the two brands to being alike… but there is no argument that the two companies follow similar business models. Its all in context

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I can read between the lines

And you, my friend, are a wrasslin fan!!! lol.

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can I be? sure sometimes I am. Its fun to watch, not for two hours but hey 15-20 minutes if you catch a bright spot. I enjoy Chael Sonnen so thats basically 35% of what happens on the shows anyways.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

truth

I enjoy watching a good match, but sometimes have trouble getting through all the bad ad-libbing that is required for the first 30 minutes before anyone fights. I miss the days of Stone Cold and the Rock.

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I miss those days as well

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

he never compared

he only contrasted

"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"

by magicmike on Sep 15, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Floyd because of his mouth but I guess i'm in the minority since I won't watch him.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you know who he is. Thats what matters. If you mention to someone you hate him that person may now want to watch. Or maybe he mentions his name to someone else who watches.

Thats all that matters is you know who he is.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is partially right

They can be long and boring, and they can also be fast and exciting, and are unpredictable. And mma has been evolving over the last 2 decades- it doesn’t happen overnight

"eat shit." billions of flies cant be wrong

by salamagogo on Sep 15, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Says the guy full of steroids and painkillers is a retarded redneck

My 6year old watches wrestling from time to time because he is 6, Iv’e tried to bare and watch it with him, If “entertainment” is 48 minutes of talking nonsense and wrestling for 12 minutes on an hour long program, I’ll pass. Triple H is a dumbfuck

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by Big-dawg on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Yet you know his name.

If you take WWE for what it is… an athletic choreographed soap opera then it can be fun.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!

"eat shit." billions of flies cant be wrong

by salamagogo on Sep 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sometimes it is to me too. When I see someone fly off a ladder and through a table I dont feel its too fake anymore lol

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

win

"What are you gonna do, hit him? No, that's a terrible idea, I'll tell you why.. it doesn't unbang your mom. "

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Sep 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

did you not see where I said Ive tried to watch with my boy, so I know who Triple H and John Cena are!!!!

I like bacon...
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!! Nick Diaz would mop the floor with GSP and the fight with Sheilds confirms it!!!
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his"
..."Son...you gotta panty on your head"...

by Big-dawg on Sep 15, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOOK

I am a big MMA guy, i love it and wwe is a thing of the past for me, it just doesnt do now for me what it did entertainment wise, but PLEASE lets not get it confused, the amount of athleticism and work thosee guys put in is insane and imo it is a sport, its just fake. but the moves and everything, Its just like learning an armbar or any other submission in mma. WWE guys cannot just come in to the UFC and know what there doing an compete, but it works both ways, besides Brock lesnar, NOBODY from the UFC is just jumping in a WWE ring tomorrow

by finsfan1331 on Sep 15, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

The difference between

learning a wrasslin move and bjj is that in bjj the guy isn’t helping you apply it.

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not true, when you learn BJJ you actually learn from a guy who helps you apply it.

And in WWE they use alot of actual wrestling moves which are taught just like BJJ

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

He means your adversary isn't helping you apply the submission on him.

Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.

by Yan117 on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Still doesnt work entirely.

Even with the help of someone I cant just jump on someones shoulders flip around their body and head scissor launch them.

The guys in WWE are real athletes performing legit moves.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

but theyre taught to do it with help

have someone try to do that same shit on a football player or something…it would never work cause no ones helping him

"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"

by magicmike on Sep 15, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That isnt entirely true, alot of what the wrestlers use in their matches are actual legitimate wrestling moves and submission manuevers as well.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

to an extent

but if they were really doing a legitimate move, guys would actually be tapping and stuff, and theyre not…ill never deny that all the wwe guys are athletic as fuck, but it is not and will not ever be a sport

"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"

by magicmike on Sep 15, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody would ever call it such either. It is sports entertainment. Like I’ve said it is a pre determined contest between highly athletic actors.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

"pre-determined contest" is an oxymoron.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Sep 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you must not be a Globe Trotter fan then either huh?

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loved ‘em on Gilligan’s Island. And on Scooby Doo.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont be so sure. Guys like Rampage and King Mo would jump in there if the money was right. Plus there are loads of MMA fighters who do pro wrestling matches in Japan.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see Mark Coleman's last wrestling match in Japan?

It was posted here somewhere.

It was so sad.

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by ViolentMike on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sounds awful

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

more sad than his last MMA fight

cause that was pretty sad too

"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"

by magicmike on Sep 15, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wont disagree

but i never said guys wouldnt do it if the money was right, but my point was no one can show up to a WWE event, get in the ring and wrestler a match against Triple H and not get hurt or mess it up..thats all im sayin

by finsfan1331 on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

We all know

Rampage would jump- he’s talked about it. And whenever Josh Barnett is cycling off he runs to Japan to wrassle

by Roger Goforth on Sep 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Many more then just Barnett

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

that may be

but lets be real it is a small % still that could do it and IMO still even smaller if your talking WWE not japan

by finsfan1331 on Sep 15, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I stopped reading at:

“if you look at us solely from a sports standpoint

by Brotherwolf on Sep 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Why? Everything he said is made with legitimate points. Maybe you dont agree but he made well thought out points and their his opinion.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

A sport should be a competition by definition.

They are awesome athletes for what they do but artistic ice skating is more a sport than WWE will ever be.

Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.

by Yan117 on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just because the results are scripted doesnt mean it shouldnt be taken serious. As adults we know what it is already… if you watch it and think man this shit is stupid it isnt even about competing, it is fixed, blah blah of course you will have these things to say but if you watch it for what it is and enjoy the more athletic spots of matches then it can be entertaining… and gasp… entertaining? It must mean its sports entertainment..

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I grew up watching wrestling

I grew up on that stuff! I don’t enjoy it now, but that’s just because I think it went down the drain in regards to characters, story lines, etc etc etc. I think every big wrestler wants to take their shots at UFC because they are getting their asses whooped in ppv sales. For instance, remember what that idiot (and worst character ever) John Cena wrote about the UFC?

I still tune in from time to time but I’m amazed at awful it’s become.

by Brotherwolf on Sep 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is very true

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

UFC merch & sponsors

I think it’s tough for UFC regarding merchandise, because of all the sponsors and the articles of clothing they have that fighters wear.

I feel that UFC is just starting to push their own merch through commericals.

by Brotherwolf on Sep 15, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of those companies wish they could generate the revenue the WWE does. They all pay the UFC. If non-UFC sponsors knew they could make that sort of money they would be able to pay the UFC to become sponsors.

The WWE is light years ahead of the game in terms of merchandise.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Go to a live UFC show and go to a live WWE show and see who’s wearing what.

99% of people at a WWE show are wearing WWE t-shirts (the kids are wearing the sweatbands, caps and necklaces too), they cant get enough of it.

Less than 5% of people at a live UFC show are wearing UFC t-shirts or any other UFC merchandise. Less than half the crowd are wearing anything MMA related at all!

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ice skating results are just as fixed as WWE.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

At international level perhaps.

Not only would GSP have finished Diaz, he would have done it much faster than the 7 minutes it took Silva to finish Okami. Ceasar Gracie is a defamation cunt artist and a dishonorable loser.

by Yan117 on Sep 15, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is the dumbest statement ever made

I’ve always thought one of the things about us, if you look at us solely from a sports standpoint, is that we always give you a good show. We’re never going to give you a crap game.

They are a soap opera…scripts…its fake! So they can always make a story to create a “good show”. They guys are athletic but it is hardly a sport.

but this does make sense

I’m good friends with Floyd Mayweather and Floyd would be the first to tell ya, ‘I make the most money in boxing and I have the biggest buyers because I have the biggest mouth.’ He’d be the first guy to tell you that. That’s what it’s about. Sports is entertainment."

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Well you cant just make a script and it is good. If that was the case every movie would be a classic. It has to be a godo script that gets people buzzing and it has to be performed well.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

at the same time

you have to be out of your mind to follow an adult, male soap opera involving massive dudes on steroids..

im a sports fan, not a scripted fake sport fan

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why out of your mind?

People watch TV right? They watch their favorite shows whether it be CSI or Glee, they watch movies whether it has Denzel Washington or John Wayne in it. Drama or Horror, they all watch what they like to watch.

So if someone likes to watch pro wrestlers what is the difference. Scripted just like any other show.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, im just a huge sports fan

so a scripted sports event is dumb to me.

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am an enormous sports fan, and sports entertainment can be entertainment to me.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it used to be

i used to love wrestling. even went to see it a few ago when it came to town lol

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEy I went and seen CWI too

I left after one match.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

we had free beer and a booth

it was fucking hilarious…honestly, i just felt bad for those poor fuckers. Like look at that bushwhacker…man what a sin

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was ringside

Saw the guys in kilts wrestle two people I’ve never seen before.

I can’t even watch WWE on TV for free, I don’t know what made me think I could watch this. Waste of time and money.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the intermission killed me

the guys having to sell their own merchandise to try and make a buck….10 dollars an autograph….

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are

they holding hands really looks that way

by LoBoTrOn on Sep 15, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I think triple H makes some valid points, they always give you a great show

I’ve been to four live WWE shows and eight live UFC shows, and every wwe show I’ve always paid my £50 for a ticket and gone away happy. I’ve seen all the stars Cena, HBK, Flair, Taker etc, the good guy’s always won and there were many great fights. You know you will always get that from the wwe.
That obviously doesn’t always happen with the UFC and a few times I’ve gone home slightly disappointed. But of course its easy to have great matches and the good guy always winning when the fights are staged and the outcome pre-determined. Such is the nature of real sport like MMA, you’ll always see more snoozers than you will barn burners and your fave wont always win. There isn’t much that can be done about it, thats the unpredictability of sport..

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice thought out post.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think here is a point as well. For if all the matches are boring, the UFC can do other things to entertain you between fights. Like football halftime shows. Speaks to the Entertainment aspect of sports. They gotta always keep you coming back.

by SprucesWild on Sep 15, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

it is without a doubt

a sport, the competition they have is with putting on the best show possible for the fans, if they dont do that, they are failures and thats how they feel and sorry but thats fact some ppl here just dont understand the WWE at all, and with some of the stuff im reading you just sound clueless and dumb(i do want to say again, i am an MMA guy and thats all i watch, but i was a WWE guy for a long time and they deserve respect)

by finsfan1331 on Sep 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

WWE is great

Always been impressed with the show they put on, very entertaining. Do I want to see all that fake trash talking in MMA though? No.

Moving on

by danago on Sep 15, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Without it the sport doesnt have character or personality. We need trash talk…

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

WWE is trash talk with acting. Not a sport. Redneck soap opera i ofter hear it called.

Nick Diaz will burn himself. He's the Charlie Sheen of MMA. The car on fire you can't take your eyes off of.

by PiperMike on Sep 15, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is entertainment. Just like football baseball basketball racquetball boxing and MMA. So there is a fair comparison to be made here.

by SprucesWild on Sep 15, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sport is the Entertainment.

by danago on Sep 15, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

so are books, tv, plays, operas, stand up comedy

entertainment is anything that entertains you, which could be absolutely anything

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sour grapes

nothing else to see here

pride never die.
silva is a can crusher, try and deny it after wacthing this

by vhw_ on Sep 15, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

this coming from an actor/bodybuilder

Nick Diaz will burn himself. He's the Charlie Sheen of MMA. The car on fire you can't take your eyes off of.

by PiperMike on Sep 15, 2011 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

MAde a good point here
They couldn’t wait to see him get beat up. And then he did well, and he beat some guys and then people jump on his bandwagon going ’Brock’s the greatest.’

But I don’t want the UFC trying to entertain me with stupid gimmicks. I don’t mind that the fighters “walk out in shorts and Tshirt, take their clothes off, fight, thank fans and leave”. I don’t mind that one bit. What I don’t want is pyrotechnics like Strikeforce and the WWE employ. I don’t need to be entertained any further than the fights and the fighters true reactions.

When sun rays crown thy pine clad hills,
And summer spreads her hand,
When silvern voices tune thy rills,
We love thee, smiling land.
We love thee, we love thee,
We love thee, smiling land.

by jay. on Sep 15, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

True, I agree.

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

i enjoy the true passion for the sport

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, a WWE guy saying the comp needs to evolve? Next thing we know, a boxing person will say the comp needs to evolve and then, an mma artist will say the same.

Lets nip this in the bud before it becomes an epidemic.

/sarcasim

Cheers,
Jay Kilgore
http://www.jaykilgore.com

by killgore on Sep 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I just wanna see your wife naked hhh quit bad mouthing the sport we love and show us some pictures

Jackie chan hates MMA. Well FUCK Jackie chan I hate shitty movies!!!

by malito3og3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Triple H is actually a very well spoken and pretty intelligent guy

but he needs to make sure and remember where the line lies. To an extent he holds a pretty valid point, in that would it raise the interest levels for alot of casual fans if more fighters adopted the Mayhem Miller entrance themes and the Chael Sonnen insults?- No doubt it would! To a degree the success of all sports is dependent on how good the show is as opposed to the actual science of the sport.

But he also has to take into account the original appeal of the UFC…
“As real as it gets”
Triple H needs to remember that the reason mma amassed such a large fanbase is due to the honest nature of the sport. Dont get it twisted, I respect pro-wrestlers hugely but as impressive as the athletes in the WWE are, the outcomes are pre-determined and rehearsed. MMA is pure competition, and the more jazzy the show becomes the more it takes away from the pureness of the competition!

Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...

by Honkleton7 on Sep 15, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

This is another quality post

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheers buddy

I actually used to be a bit of a WWE fanatic when I was a kid but even then I was never disillusioned about what I was watching. I think theres far too much emphasis placed on comparing the two companys when infact they dont have that much in common. Thats why I totally agree with what you’re saying above in that if you take Pro-Wrestling as what it is which is essentially a drama, then theres no reason to have to pick between supporting WWE or UFC.

I hate when people argue that boxings much better than WWE or WWE is more entertaining than UFC. If fans just enjoy the different sports for what they are instead of constantly comparing them, then the ongoing rivalry between the sports would eventually die out

Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...

by Honkleton7 on Sep 15, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

so a fake “sport” is going to tell a real one to evolve? what a joke. go work on you predetermined endings.

by detroit_fan on Sep 15, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

In a perfect world you tuf nubs would understand the sport and tune in to watch technical interesting fights. You wouldn’t need fake drama, Dana wouldn’t need to promote it and the sport would be better off.

by danago on Sep 15, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

in a perfect world...

the JDS/Cain fight is inturrupted by the shattering of the glass, out come STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN who stunners Cain, stunners JDS, a drinks 8 steveweisers, one for each corner of the octagon

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Jones should change him tattoo to "Austin 3:16"

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

MY GOD, THE RATTLE SNAKES STRIKING AT EVERYTHING THAT MOVES!!

Sakuraba beats Silva, Aoki would beat Miller and Vitor Belfort didn't deserve his title shot - In my opinion, the craziest points I've read on this site...

by Honkleton7 on Sep 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana’s music hits and stares at him from the ramp. Setting up the next UFC on FOX!!!

"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson

by AintNoSunshine on Sep 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the loser gets a big

YOU’RREEE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRED!

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or they can join the Kiss Vince’s Ass Club.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

A most distinguished club

by attakdog on Sep 15, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldnt mind seeing a good ol Anderson Silva/Chael Sonnen casket match

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

its like Joe Rogan said

people can sit back and watch 4 hrs of baseball, then they sure as hell can sit through >5 minutes of ground fighting

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup...

I see it happening already. More and more refs are standing fighters up too soon. This is a trend of pleasing the fans over MMA fairness. I’m all up for standups during prolonged stalements, but most fans dont want it to hit the floor AT ALL.

I bet IF THE SECOND the fight hit the ground the ref were to stand them up, FANS would cheer their heads off. That’s the fanbase and that’s what Dana & Fox will appeal to.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Sep 15, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

but most fans dont want it to hit the floor AT ALL.

They should go watch K1 or boxing then. Lame.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

most of these fans have already been sucked into the UFC hype machine...

they know the fighters/characters, the storylines. UFC is readily available and advertises everywhere. They’re geniuses at marketing their product.

K1 they dont know…they dont care about the guys/characters. And the majority of fans dont want to go look for new promotions, they just wanna go to the bar and watch the UFC fight – it’s what everyone else is doin. It’s the new cool kid in town.

I find it funny how 6 years ago nobody liked this sport, callin it “human cockfightin”…nobody wanted to cover it. People looked at me weird when I mentioned it Now it’s cool. Truth is…these people aren’t real fightfans, they just jump on the new cool thing to do. Like girls who say the love the UFC. Give me a break! It’s VERY RARE do I meet a girl who actually likes MMA fights. 99.9% of girls just say they like it cuz its “the new cool kid in town”.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Sep 15, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It can be fun and infuriating to have conversations with these types of fans. I have yet to meet a girl who truly follows, understands and respects the sport.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was at a Jay's game a few weeks back and was talkin to this nice enough fella...a friend of a friend...we got talkin about mma...

his favourite move was the Colombian Necktie, lol.

I didnt hate on him…i just politely corrected him…he’s the majority of fans…infact most fans wouldn’t even have a clue about the Peruvian Necktie…this kid atleast knew it was supposed to be some South American country.

I remember watchin a card at a bar with this chick…she kept on pickin the black guys to win cuz they looked meaner. This is the typical so-called female MMA fan.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Sep 15, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Columbian necktie is awesome. I always laugh when I hear “submission him! submission him!” But I get so friggin mad when you watch a great single, where both guys are working, it goes all the way across the cage, then goes to the mat…..and you hear boos. Same guys that cheer for tackles in football (and these guys are tackling to fucking perfection) and they are friggin booing. HATE IT.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i used to watch at bars..and i was usually the loudest person there..

kinda embarrassing…and i went from knowing sweet fuck all 7 years or so ago..to knowing quite a bit about mma..so hopefully some of the hair twirling female fans actually turn into someone who learns about what they are watching..i know i did!

by sarah- on Sep 15, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

Am I too late to make the first fake wrestling joke?
Stupid work.
Cuttin into my Mania time…….

I think you're pretty tough....don't I?
Daffy Duck

by Scottidog on Sep 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

hell no lets see it

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was bluffing

I don’t have shit :)

I think you're pretty tough....don't I?
Daffy Duck

by Scottidog on Sep 15, 2011 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

tease

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Not even a knock-knock joke.
I must be slippin

I think you're pretty tough....don't I?
Daffy Duck

by Scottidog on Sep 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

unidirectional mics

The ufc could take it to a whole new level with a soundman using unidirectional mics during the rounds—every punch-kick.slam would be very loud while shutting out the crowd noise

by sgt thai clone on Sep 15, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad

thing is the ufc need sh*t to sell fights or else people wont watch .
Fighting a thing we all do so why wont america buy it cause the rest of us around the world dont pay for the ppv thing we watch but you have to pay for it .
So how come you like the fake sh*t when drama is involved but not the real thing where people respect each other?

by LoBoTrOn on Sep 15, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

So “talking sh!t” sells does it? Thanks for the heads up Triple H..

There is logic with what the guy is saying of course to appeal to more fans give them something they can identify with.

Trouble is the inherent problem with Triple H’s logic, to create drama and tell stories, is one punch (or submission) in MMA can change everything.

Kimbo is a perfect example. One punch changed everything. Though someone should of run with an angle for Seth Petruzelli about how he ko’d a promotion in one punch..

by ArmChairMMA on Sep 15, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

His rant poses a real question

Is the UFC a “sport” or “entertainment” – (I know it’s both, but what is the main focus?)

by ~Peregrine on Sep 15, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

When you put a bunch of dudes living in a house together for a reality show like the freaking Real World, it's no longer a sport..it crosses the line into entertainment

You can’t have a stupid fucking reality show of a bunch of dudes sharing a house together and then try to clown WWE for manufactured drama…

I don't really need a sig anymore..cause gyverbob follows me around and replies faster than my sig can display..

by HellaHectic on Sep 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how you can say cumming in someone’s sushi and pissing in fruit salad isn’t a sport. Get a clue.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

so it's not too far fetched

to think some drama (like the switch of the UFC 137 card) is manufactured drama?

by ~Peregrine on Sep 15, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No man, that’s just gross. Now pooping in a bowl of chili on the other hand is both hysterical and athletic.

When a Texan decides to take his chances, you know chances will be taken.

by P-Dub on Sep 15, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I hate that shit too

I don't really need a sig anymore..cause gyverbob follows me around and replies faster than my sig can display..

by HellaHectic on Sep 15, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep...

Not much else to say, but I’ll say it anyway.

COULD NOT CARE LESS what he thinks. Asking a “pro wrestler” what he thinks of MMA is like asking Snookie what she thinks of Meryl Streep’s latest performance.

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Sep 15, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

flagged

No one says “Meryl Streep” here. That is rule #1.

I will blind you with my Albino Mormon Rainbow Powers of Sunshiny Joy™. - Dak

by Deuce02 on Sep 15, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2 for agreeing with you opinion and proper use of the caring continuum.

however, -1 for mentioning Meryl Streep in an MMA blog.

so you get a +1 total.

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Sep 15, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...as soon as the post registered

I knew I would take a hit for that, but using “J-Lo” or “Hillary Duff” seemed a little lacking. Still, I accept full responsibility in any part I have played in the castration of manood in this thread.

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Sep 15, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean long and boring as oppsed to FAKE and CHILDISH???

I can’t believe WWE actors (bad ones at that)/entertainers (yeah, entertaining if you’re 12 years old or have the mentality of one) actually have the balls to say ANYTHING about a REAL sport. One with actual athletes who dedicate themselves to the sport and put themselves in the octagon for REAL!!!!

by YossGold on Sep 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

thread Hijack.....and you dont think real fighters are reading this shit?

In a thread titled "Hey Hendo" a poster named ‘skooter’ took issue with Dan’s statements:

"Stop flabbing your jaws…….

You SHOULD have to earn a shot at Anderson……

You SHOULD have to beat Chael or Mousasi FIRST….

But we all know that will not happen….We all already know that DPW will “give” it to you on a silver platter…..
It didn’t take long for Hendo to get his troll hunting hat on:

"Skooter, the difference between you and me is that while you sit at your computer and make ignorant statements while hiding behind an anonymous screen name, I am willing to test myself against the toughest fighters in the world, in front of hundreds of thousands or even millions of fans, over and over again. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but I always come to fight. I’ve been doing this for the past fourteen years, and I have at least a few more strong years left in me. What have you done in the past fourteen years other than act like a moron on this forum and hang on Anderson’s nuts? Tell me where you work so I can come watch, and whenever you have a bad day I’ll demand that you get fired with no opportunity to redeem yourself. Sound fair?

I’ve gone 6-1 since the Anderson fight, with wins in three weight classes against world-class competition. Considering my recent success along with my career accomplishments, I think I’ve pretty much earned the right to call out anyone in the world—and I believe I’ve demonstrated over the course of my career that I have a better than average chance of beating whomever it is I choose to call out. Whether you like it or not, Anderson and his management have done their best to avoid a rematch. I think I’ve proven myelf worthy to face him again, and if he believes I’m such an easy fight, why not take the payday? I would not have left the UFC if it wasn’t obvious that Anderson was avoiding a second fight, and he’s doing it again."

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

quote hijack

I’m stealing that and making a post

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Sep 15, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats the boy

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

what site was this on?

"You never know. I don't know. You know?" -Nick Diaz

by Two_Words on Sep 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

from the UG. read it on another site...

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by Newfie3 on Sep 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I don’t understand mixed martial arts. I talk shit on things I don’t understand. MMA is hard for me to follow because there’s no script and it’s an actual sport. It hurts my head, the same way “Math” and “multiple syllable words” hurt my head. Also, I’m more or less an actor, as opposed to a legitimate athlete. Most of what I say is written for me. If I say “UFC,” and, in particular, I say negative things about “UFC,” you will tune in and fake wrestling gets more attention. See how smart I am? Oh yeah, by the way…Kid Rock rules." – HHH

"Why? Will all his opponents be wearing Twinkies and Spam?" - Dakatak

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by Kevin Haggerty on Sep 15, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the translation

It all makes sense now

"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"

by Jrandolph on Sep 15, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

shut your mouth bitch!!!!

this guy has no fuckin room to open his mouth… the WWE is terrible to watch because they dont have any real entertainers, people that were actually funny or had a good gimmick. hes not even a true athlete!! hardly any of the pro wrestlers are anymore. theyre just a bunch of random fuckin guys over 6 feet on steroids with a new name!! just because every fight doesnt go toe to toe for 3 straight rounds doesnt make it boring, the same way not every boxing fight ends in a tyson style knockout!! mma is the most entertaining combat sport and not every fight is going to please everyone, least of all doesnt need to make this roided fucker happy.

by I_know_my_shit on Sep 15, 2011 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Triple H needs to STFU

He’s never been in a real fight. Only choreographed ring dancing and gymnastics. Stick to what you know HHH, like GHG, roids, fake fighting and soap opera acting. Freak.

by Gurthee on Sep 15, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

This guy is old news. Get back to your D-BOL and CLEN-CLEN, Triple H.

by Jonny Kush on Sep 15, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Doesn't have a clue what he's talkin about

I’m not looking thru 400 posts to see if this has already been discussed. But the guy wrong about sports just being entertainment. combat sports are gruelling displays of competition where it’s one man against another after (not 3 on 1 semi-conscious guy plus special guest referee and his wife) months of preparation. To most fighters, it’s a way to make a living as an athlete. Most fighters are hungry and out to prove their worth. Sure some like putting on a show. But Triple H should just keep his mouth shut and stick to scripted shows where skills and physical prowess mean nothing – because even a tiny mexican guy in a mask can dominate in his line of work.

by Rob556 on Sep 15, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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