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Dana White: I would love to have Alistair Overeem in the heavyweight division

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So Dana White would love to have Alistair Overeem in his heavyweight division and "The Reem's" ultimate goal is still to become UFC champion.

Sounds like a match made in heaven, right?

Wrong ... at least for the time being. That's thanks to the suddenly contentious nature of the relationship between Zuffa, parent company of the UFC and the big wigs cutting the checks, and Golden Glory, Overeem's management team.

On The MMA Show, White broke it down:

"Yes, I would love to have Alistair Overeem in the heavyweight division. If we can come to a deal and we can make this happen and we can pay Alistair Overeem his check when he fights and he can pay Golden Glory, then absolutely we can do a deal."

As it stands now, at least according to the UFC President, Golden Glory wants to be paid directly at which point they will disperse funds to their fighters, instead of the other way around.

But that won't fly as long as they're dealing with Zuffa, as evidenced by the mass exodus of every fighter associated with the management group, including Overeem, who was Strikeforce heavyweight champion at the time.

Can they work out a deal and get the number three ranked heavyweight in the land inside the Octagon? We'll have to stay tuned on that one, Maniacs.

In the meantime, White discussed much more with Mauro Ranallo, including yet another heated debate on Fedor Emelianenko and his place in MMA history. I know, I know, it's been done to death but things get tense between White and Ranallo and it's certainly worth a watch.

Check it out:

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by scarnon on Aug 6, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think we all suspected this when he dissapeared from the tourny

but he also says shit like this to make the fighters the problem if they don’t sign to his controlling contracts not him. “we definitely want him here but he wont/doesn’t/ can’t”

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Aug 6, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i gotta admit

I thought the Zuffa/GG beef was gonna blow up and keep overoids from comin over..

Now it all looks like a smokescreen

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Aug 6, 2011 1:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What have I been preaching mamajama?

Fedor "The Can Crusher" Emeilianko IS NOT THE BEST HW EVER , in fact he sucks! he has the most padded record in the history of any combat sport, scratch that in the history of any sport. He has not changed as a fighter , he is still just as good as he was then, only difference is he isn’t fighting freaks and nobodies, I , along with many others have been duped into believing he is great, when clearly he is NOT!

by Starr788 on Aug 6, 2011 1:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

honestly?

No clue lol..
I’m gonna assume you’ve been preaching that its a smokescreen

by 10thDegreeWhiteBelt on Aug 6, 2011 1:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

whos mamajama?

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by scarnon on Aug 6, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mir vs Overeem...its going down!

Fedor "The Can Crusher" Emeilianko IS NOT THE BEST HW EVER , in fact he sucks! he has the most padded record in the history of any combat sport, scratch that in the history of any sport. He has not changed as a fighter , he is still just as good as he was then, only difference is he isn’t fighting freaks and nobodies, I , along with many others have been duped into believing he is great, when clearly he is NOT!

by Starr788 on Aug 6, 2011 2:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

overeem wont sign an exclusive contract unless k1 goes tits up

"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"

by scott1 on Aug 6, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

Overeem still has the desire to fight for FEG (K1/DREAM)

by robinhorobson on Aug 6, 2011 8:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you mean Overeem is going down

Mir will beat him. Mir is smarter and more well rounded.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Aug 6, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how you can say Mir is more well rounded...

They’re about equal to me..Mir’s jits can be compared to Overeem’s striking and Overeem’s jits can be compared to Mir’s striking

Fedor "The Can Crusher" Emeilianko IS NOT THE BEST HW EVER , in fact he sucks! he has the most padded record in the history of any combat sport, scratch that in the history of any sport. He has not changed as a fighter , he is still just as good as he was then, only difference is he isn’t fighting freaks and nobodies, I , along with many others have been duped into believing he is great, when clearly he is NOT!

by Starr788 on Aug 6, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

....um...NO!

Reem just got outstruck by Werdum in an MMA match. He would get dominated by guys like JDS and Carwin. He got KOd by Chuckles. The way Dana feels about the hype around Fedor is how I feel about Overeem. WHO HAS HE BEATEN? How did he earn this elite status in MMA? His only two ranked opponents at HW were Rogers and Werdum and I don’t see how the judges gave him the decision over Werdum.

Reem got TKOd by LITTLE NOG. Mir KOd Big Nog. Mir KOd CroCop, Reem kicked him in the balls to get out of that fight.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Aug 6, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

You call getting outstruck 2-1 by a BJJ guy “domination”?

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Aug 7, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet. Was hoping this would happen

love to watch wand, florian, lauzon, gsp, cain, machida, dos anjos
bones jones will be the champ for a VERY long time
damn that was fun watching tito choke out bader
fedor man its time to hang up the gloves

by Burlzilla129 on Aug 6, 2011 1:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

who would he fight though?

brock i’m guessing. so when is he back? i hope not mir, i want a big fight. plus brock v reem is huge pay day. if he should lose to mir first dana loses out on all those monies

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Aug 6, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

ALLLLL those cash monies

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by scarnon on Aug 6, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ow my toe.

Coward

I'm better then whatever your best at. Come get some!

by Joelsy on Aug 6, 2011 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

He did broke his rib

internet hero!

It disappoints me when some vocal people in cyberspace hide behind a pseudonym and make malicious and baseless attacks against athletes that have never failed a screen for banned substances. These keyboard toxicologists think that they can merely look at an athlete and "know" that so-and-so is a "juicer." There is a term for that. It's called "delusions of grandeur," and medication may help. (Dr. Johnny Benjamin)

by Sanderman on Aug 6, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offtopic. For anyone who is familiar with set theory and likes the Wu-Tang Clan, this Venn Diagram just made me laugh

After many years of savoring the sweet taste of Fedor’s gizz, it seems that some has shot into my eyes, thus blinding me into thinking Fedor could finish a legend like Dan Henderson, who has never been Ko’d in 36 fights. As always, Dana White had it right all along. Dana truly is God’s gift to Mixed Martial Arts.

by freenow82 on Aug 6, 2011 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

hahahaha took me about 2 seconds to process

Good shit.

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by cnevius26 on Aug 6, 2011 1:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

killah bees!

Ha that shit made my night

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by Joelsy on Aug 6, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

fuckin awesomre on a great roll today free lol

got over last weeks blues already i like it ;)

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by scarnon on Aug 6, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a time

where things I saw on Chappelle’s Show will cease being funny? No.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Aug 6, 2011 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reem will never be in the UFC. He will not give up K1 and his other income sources, since he knows the top UFC HW's would eat him alive.

After many years of savoring the sweet taste of Fedor’s gizz, it seems that some has shot into my eyes, thus blinding me into thinking Fedor could finish a legend like Dan Henderson, who has never been Ko’d in 36 fights. As always, Dana White had it right all along. Dana truly is God’s gift to Mixed Martial Arts.

by freenow82 on Aug 6, 2011 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

doesn';t k1 owe him a bunch of cash as is?

i have no other source for this info than the kickboxer i work with…he could be talking out his ass. but he told me k1 and dream owe him money

circa regna tonat

by sir.tickleberry on Aug 6, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember something about Dream not paying him, not sure if K1 was involved in that as well

After many years of savoring the sweet taste of Fedor’s gizz, it seems that some has shot into my eyes, thus blinding me into thinking Fedor could finish a legend like Dan Henderson, who has never been Ko’d in 36 fights. As always, Dana White had it right all along. Dana truly is God’s gift to Mixed Martial Arts.

by freenow82 on Aug 6, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Before the SF HW tournament started, back in Feb., Overeem was on mma live and said he still hadnt been paid for winning K-1 but I’m not sure if that has changed since then.

I’m wondering if agreeing to pay all debts was part of the K-1 selling agreement because if not anyone that hasnt gotten paid probably isnt getting paid.

by bigdmmafan on Aug 6, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck yeeeeeeah, that's what I'm talking about, ya smell me?!?!

Overeem vs Mir!!! It only makes sense…you guys need to talk about this as a possible match up more and hopefully someone from Zuffa’s staff will see it…its a long shot guys but its not so farfetched…

Fedor "The Can Crusher" Emeilianko IS NOT THE BEST HW EVER , in fact he sucks! he has the most padded record in the history of any combat sport, scratch that in the history of any sport. He has not changed as a fighter , he is still just as good as he was then, only difference is he isn’t fighting freaks and nobodies, I , along with many others have been duped into believing he is great, when clearly he is NOT!

by Starr788 on Aug 6, 2011 1:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd be down with that, should be a good fight.

After many years of savoring the sweet taste of Fedor’s gizz, it seems that some has shot into my eyes, thus blinding me into thinking Fedor could finish a legend like Dan Henderson, who has never been Ko’d in 36 fights. As always, Dana White had it right all along. Dana truly is God’s gift to Mixed Martial Arts.

by freenow82 on Aug 6, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

as it would mean an asskickiing for Mir.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Aug 6, 2011 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like a lot of fighters have bad management

well not necessarily bad but makes wrong decisions for the fighter which affects their future. in this case it’s overeem with golden glory and fedor with m-1. fighters need to know how to control their career and not let everything be handled by their managers or management team.

by daftshadow on Aug 6, 2011 1:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I like a lil spice in the HW division, but I don’ think Overeem would fair well against the top 3.. Cain/Dos Santos/Carwin

by ZuffaAttacks on Aug 6, 2011 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

i am more interested in seeing if cain is able to return to his old form after that surgery, rotator cuff injuries are no joke, and that surgery can sure impede his athletic progress. i will reserve my judgment until i see him fight JDS.

by legion4 on Aug 6, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty curious myself bro… My dad tore his rotator playing golf and hasn’t really been the same since.. Limited range of motion, for sure.

by ZuffaAttacks on Aug 6, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes after that surgery, scar tissue and calcium deposits form around the bones, which leads to loss of ROM, it takes years of physical therapy, still there is little chance of recovering 100% from it, kinda unfortunate for cain, coz he has so much potential.

by legion4 on Aug 6, 2011 4:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you put Kongo over Carwin? or perhaps Matt Mitrione?

by ZuffaAttacks on Aug 6, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lesnar mir

And if skinny Carwin continues to exist then yes I’ll take mitrione over him and maybe throw in peewee Herman and Travis Browne

by wooly shambler on Aug 6, 2011 2:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think there’s more to see from ‘skinny Carwin’.. He faced one of the toughest strikers the HW division has seen in Dos.. No shame in losing to that beast o’ Brasilian…

I wouldn’t put Mir above Carwin when Carwin clearly beat him to a fuckin’ pulp..

by ZuffaAttacks on Aug 6, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

"skinny" Carwin is only half a man

Big Carwin is a beast and definitely Top 4. Carwin looked sick (old school “sick” when that was a bad thing) against JDS. Before the fight even started, I was like, “Who the hell is that little sick dude posing as Carwin!?!”

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Aug 6, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure Dana would have loved to have Fedor in the UFC HW division too but we all saw how that turned out. GG is just as full of it as M1 was and that is why Overeem will continue to live off beating cans and being overated by dumb media writers and ignorant fans.

by Raker on Aug 6, 2011 2:18 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s hard to come to terms with the Dutch, it seems. :- )

by ZuffaAttacks on Aug 6, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dana is just mad

because Mauro is bald by choice.

@fjbar75 on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner

by _Felix_ on Aug 6, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Good.

I hope this totally happens. Reem vs. Lesnar for return fight.

by Leben the Red on Aug 6, 2011 2:28 AM EDT reply actions  

You are a smart man!

Fedor "The Can Crusher" Emeilianko IS NOT THE BEST HW EVER , in fact he sucks! he has the most padded record in the history of any combat sport, scratch that in the history of any sport. He has not changed as a fighter , he is still just as good as he was then, only difference is he isn’t fighting freaks and nobodies, I , along with many others have been duped into believing he is great, when clearly he is NOT!

by Starr788 on Aug 6, 2011 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Because I’d like to see Mir KTFO again.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Aug 6, 2011 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

no way. overeem vs..

schaub – nogueira winner. nuff said.

Couldn't think of a better screen name than real name. Boom.

by Cruz Jackson on Aug 6, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alistair Overeem in the UFC is good business

…hate him or love him you want to see him fight against guys in the UFC…I would say Overeem commands more interest than any fighter outside of the UFC

Fedor "The Can Crusher" Emeilianko IS NOT THE BEST HW EVER , in fact he sucks! he has the most padded record in the history of any combat sport, scratch that in the history of any sport. He has not changed as a fighter , he is still just as good as he was then, only difference is he isn’t fighting freaks and nobodies, I , along with many others have been duped into believing he is great, when clearly he is NOT!

by Starr788 on Aug 6, 2011 3:22 AM EDT reply actions  

IMHO i would say Hector

Lombard draws the most. i like the uber-man no doubt. but cant deny his lackluster performance against werdum was more impressive than lombard smashing. everyone out of ufc at middleweight other than that beast Mamed Khalidov. or whatever his name is.

Couldn't think of a better screen name than real name. Boom.

by Cruz Jackson on Aug 6, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you're opinion is "imHo" humble because it also happens to be rediculous

Hector Lombard is virtually unknown. The guy has a great record in little shows, but he’s hardly made a blip on the average MMA fan’s radar. To say a guy is a draw, when his most famous opponent to date is Kalib Starnes…that’s pretty daggum silly.

"Who's da MASTA?!!!"

by (shonuff) on Aug 6, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't control the modulation of my voice!!!

That Strikeforce guy is a Saturday Night Live character, except more funny.

by Charlie Brown 777 on Aug 6, 2011 3:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Jacob Silj.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Aug 6, 2011 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

All Mauro had too do

was bitch about the stoppage, and he would’ve been Snowden.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Aug 6, 2011 4:10 AM EDT reply actions  

This is going to happen

Alistair doesnt have near the clout that fedor did,and wont have as much bargaining leverage.

by superev1l on Aug 6, 2011 4:21 AM EDT reply actions  

He never responds!

To the actual answer. He never says anything about Nogueira, Randleman, Cro-Cop or Herring. But he mentions Herring when it comes to Lesnar. Lesnar didn’t fight Herring in his prime. Fedor DID! I like Dana, but he has to admit at one point, that i 2005 Fedor was the greatest, and he WILL go down in the history books :-)

by Tommy Skjeldestad on Aug 6, 2011 6:55 AM EDT reply actions  

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