UFC 137: Nick Diaz will share his training camp with boxing champion Andre Ward
by Jesse Holland on Aug 12, 2011 1:08 PM EDT
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Former Strikeforce Welterweight Champion Nick Diaz is tasked with fighting one of the best wrestlers in all of mixed martial arts when he challenges Georges St. Pierre for the 170-pound title at UFC 137 on Oct. 29 in Las Vegas.
So it should come as no surprise that he's enlisted the help of boxing champion Andre Ward.
From DiazBrothers.com:
Nick and Nathan Diaz will be joining the camp of Olympic Gold Medalist, Andre Ward. Ward will be fighting in the finals of the "Super Six Tournament" against Carl Froch on the same night that Nick Diaz is set to fight UFC Champion, Georges St. Pierre. Nick and Andre have sparred infrequently for the past 10 years with each man acheiving immense success in their respective sport. This be the first time the two fighters collaborate to spar frequently in an official camp.
St. Pierre is a frequent collaborator with famed boxing trainer Freddie Roach, who also happens to associate with the world's most dangerous pugilist, Manny Pacquiao.
Diaz coach Cesar Gracie is not impressed:
"I know that Georges is training with Freddie Roach but I doubt he's sparring Pacquiao. Nick will be sparring frequently with Ward and I think it will help him tremendously."
St. Pierre is coming off one of his least inspired performances since regaining the welterweight title from Matt Serra back at UFC 83 in April 2008. "Rush" went toe-to-toe with Jake Shields for five rounds up in the Great White North and not only failed to secure a finish, but lost a couple rounds on two of the judges scorecards.
It was the first time he had failed to win every round since his Aug. 2007 fight against Josh Koscheck -- a contest that saw a much-improved jab and flinty footwork.
But does anyone expect him to keep it on the feet when he battles the crowned prince of the "209?"
The Stockton, Calif., native, who recently scored an improbable come-from-behind victory via first round technical knockout over British striker Paul "Semtex" Daley back on April 9, is riding a 10-fight win streak where he's finished all but one of his opponents in dominating fashion.
This will be the first time Diaz has competed under the UFC banner since a Nov. 2006 win over Gleison Tibau and he hasn't fought in Las Vegas since Feb. 2007, a submission win over Takanori Gomi (later overturned to a no contest thanks to a failed drug test) under the Pride banner.
Will he make a triumphant return to "Sin City?" Or wilt under the constant takedowns of his Canadian foe?
Anyone think this is a good gameplan?
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As much as i like nick i think he should be training with more wrestlers not boxers
i think his boxing is already alot better the gsps
his boxing is alright. not a lot better than GSP.
And what would ward teach him? how to clinch and hold guys? Diaz isnt a staller. But yes, working on his wrestling would seem to be the smarter idea. Then again he’s been doing MMA for how long and he still hasnt shown an ounce of wrestling inclination so why bother now – not like he’s gonna suddenly stop a takedown much less one from GSP.
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 12, 2011 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or how to use his head!
I hope Froch knocks Ward out.I doubt it though Wards a little too slick but Carl carries his power into the 12th so hes always dangerous
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
he's just trying to avoid having his orbital broken
silly diaz bro., he’s getting pinned down and smashed from time to time, not out boxed! that’s definitely not the gameplan
pride never die
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he's obviously not ONLY training boxing..
you guys think all he’s going to do is train with ward?
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by stinky~fingers on Aug 12, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
it doesn't matter who he trains with
gsp is still winning that fight. Not that i don’t think nick has some skill or whatever but he’s far below gsp and come fight night, it will show
pride never die
We've got a Smurfs movie and a Yogi the Goddamned Bear movie, but still no Arrested Development movie? Shit Hollywood. Just ... shit. - Chris Bucholz
Yeah as much as I like this it won’t help a great deal against GSP I don’t think…..he needs to bring in Ben Askren not Andre Ward imo.
even sonnen at his camp would benefit a lot more
pride never die
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+1
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by poundnground on Aug 12, 2011 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Their styles are vastly different.
GSP throws feints and jabs with looping leg kicks, while Diaz plods forward with pitter patter shots that serve to measure distance before unloading combinations.
But I agree Diaz should be training to stop takedowns. Not that it’ll matter. If Koscheck can’t stop the shot, neither can Diaz. But what makes it interesting is that GSP feared taking down Shields because of the Jujitsu, but Diaz is arguably better there than Shields.
I agree he should be training with wrestlers
but i dont think diaz boxing is better than gsp
"I've had no desire to follow in anyone's footsteps. I didn't believe in the term role model until I became one"-letter19
His boxing style is whats totally different and often frustrates his opponent into making mistakes he capitalizes on, technically GSP’s boxing is great excellent jab footwork head movement, but he doesn’t know how to string together combos the way Nick can he’s not relentless as Nick nor is he willing to take a big shot to give you half a dozen smothering jabs and hooks. Nicks boxing style is perfect for MMA and would be even more effective if he would mix in leg kicks/takedowns/trips then use some of that ceaser gracie JJ for the sub, a good display of what I’m speaking of is the sequence before the cyborg fight even though cyborg was the one who took him down he did so because he was getting smacked upside the head with those smothering combos then Nick immediately with for the sub before Cyborg could even think to adjust. Nick is a great great fighter but like many MMA fighters he falls in love with one aspect of the fight game and does not mix things up as well as he should……and for gods sake the kid should train TDD defense but he’s so confident in his bjj he doesn’t care if he’s taken down which the way judges score fights is a big mistake.
TDD is easy
he doesn’t need to work on this, and stop going by fights from yeeears ago, fighters change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrTB-iiecqk&ob=av2e
it cant hurt to train with dre
but something tells me this fight is not going to be contested mostly on the feet
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
which is why he should be training at AKA with cormier, not with ward.
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
Dark Horse for the Mania Money Pool. Watch out Old Man...
i could be wrong, but that Gracie camp seems to be out to lunch. From Diaz’s gameplan against Daley, to Jake’s gameplan against Georges, they just seem to be dumbasses
Poor guy must fuck like dog shit
jake sheilds eye poking was there best gameplan
"I've had no desire to follow in anyone's footsteps. I didn't believe in the term role model until I became one"-letter19
I credit that to the liddell instute of eye poking more so than Cesar Gracie camp.
I know chucky and jake are good pals.
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 12, 2011 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I second that.
Shields never eyepokes his opponent, so why all of a sudden is he throwing eyepokes every round against a guy he knows he can’t takedown?? Highly suspicious.
Two_Words.
And that's the word.
He should just bring in power double guys, thats it. His striking is already legit.
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 12, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
we just got a new wrestling coach at my gym. and holy hell-in just a few weeks, my wrestling has already improved a lot. i mean, im still a novice, but im leaps and bounds better than what i was.
when your wrestling is weak, a good coach can get improve you a lot in a short time. im not saying nick would be able to stop all of GSP’s doubles, but bring in a legit wrestling coach, work a few tricks, and at least have a chance of stopping one or two so you have the chance of landing your strikes.
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
Dark Horse for the Mania Money Pool. Watch out Old Man...
At least learn something simple in terms of countering, there is so much to learn in wrestling defensively
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 12, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
AK you can just come here
our wrestling coach is decent
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
his striking is legit
against sub-par competition no where near the level of a top WW
"I've had no desire to follow in anyone's footsteps. I didn't believe in the term role model until I became one"-letter19
His striking is legit period. No better offensive striker in my opinion
"......I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey....My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious......." - Mike Tyson
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 12, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
truth^
he out struck Daley. however, he was tagged and dropped by him as well. his striking speed is his greatest strength. i am just curious how he fares against someone who can get off as fast as he can.
if he gets dropped by GSP at any point he’s in some serious trouble. GSP just has more options than someone like Daley.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Aug 12, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick the Goat thomspon outstruck Daley.
It’s not special to outstrike Daley. People might still be in awe of volume punching but Freddie Roach has seen a million pressure fighters. Dont doubt that GSP will break him standing.
Sometimes, these things happen in MMA
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 12, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
while it's true gps's boxing is better
i seriously doubt he’d follow that route. Diaz is not easy to break and has cardio for the days, the only way i see this fight standing is if gsp wants a corner stoppage or doctor stoppage due to bleeding (which means gsp would have to jab the shit out of diaz’ forehead and eyelids)
pride never die
We've got a Smurfs movie and a Yogi the Goddamned Bear movie, but still no Arrested Development movie? Shit Hollywood. Just ... shit. - Chris Bucholz
his greatest attribute is his ability to mix up his power
now im half decent with my hands but when im throwing combos its usually 1-2 with the power on the 2 or if im throwing 3s or 4s there all packing power.To be able to hold back on certain parts of the combo is amazing ive tried it even on the bag and its seriously tough.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
gsp,alves,condit,penn,rumble beat diaz on the feet
"I've had no desire to follow in anyone's footsteps. I didn't believe in the term role model until I became one"-letter19
who has the edge?
"I've had no desire to follow in anyone's footsteps. I didn't believe in the term role model until I became one"-letter19
by letter19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nick in my opinion
Nick has cardio. Nick has a very active guard. Nicks boxing has combos, angles, volume.
Penn sometimes lacks cardio. Penns bjj isn’t as active as Nicks, bj shines when he has back control but nicks bjj shines about everywhere. Penn has solid boxing but it is very stiff, see the Edgar fights.
That being said, Penn vs Diaz is a matchup to end all matchups. Its like a dream fight.
You're saying he's a better offensive striker than Anderson?
Nick has no kicks, no knees, no elbows. He’s an okay boxer but I’d put Njokuani, Barboza, Anderson, Shogun, and Machida way above him. And those guys actually have defense.
He’s not even the best offensive striker at 170. Alves has a far more varied attack and can seriously hurt you with his legs. He also hits harder than Nick.
The itsy bitsy Spider went up the waterspout
Down came the Thunder and washed the spider out
Up came the sun but Thunder still remained
And the itsy bitsy spider never touched the belt again~
by Johnny WF on Aug 12, 2011 3:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Story outstruck Alves, Alves striking is very overrated. It is very good but overrated
And I meant at WW
Please
Story had a slight advantage in the first two rounds due to the threat of a takedown. In the third, when it was mostly standup, Alves beat the piss out of him.
And if Nick had to worry about takedowns, he’d get murdered. He has no TDD.
The itsy bitsy Spider went up the waterspout
Down came the Thunder and washed the spider out
Up came the sun but Thunder still remained
And the itsy bitsy spider never touched the belt again~
by Johnny WF on Aug 12, 2011 4:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I disagree
Nick often throws headkicks although we have not seen them be used effectively yet, he throws them very fluently. I know he threw a few in the Noons fight.
Nick used knees very well in the Zaromskis fight. He had Zaromski pinned against the cage and landed about 40 straight knees. He could barely stand after that.
Nick threw some elbows in the Daley fight. We haven’t seen Nick use many ground elbows, but up until now ground elbows were banned in Strikeforce.
I think Nick is the best offensive striker at 170. He got the best of Lawler, Smith, Zaromski, Noons, Santos, Daley. All of which are very respectable strikers, especially Daley which Diaz finished in the first round.
Alves is the only credible case left for best WW striker, but I think Nick beats him. Nick has been finishing almost every striker they put in front of him. Alves has that brawler style which Diaz has ran through every time. And I think Nick has a more varied attack with his striking style. Alves best chance would be to use his monster leg kicks but Im not sure that will stop Diaz anyway, see the Cyborg fight.
Alves is not a brawler
He’s a precise sharpshooter. His punching is tight and he has some of the best timing I’ve ever seen when throwing knees.
And Nick’s only knees to Marius were to the thigh against the cage. In center ring, he uses punches nearly exclusively.
Also, the word is “fluidly”. Unless you meant his kicks could speak well.
The itsy bitsy Spider went up the waterspout
Down came the Thunder and washed the spider out
Up came the sun but Thunder still remained
And the itsy bitsy spider never touched the belt again~
by Johnny WF on Aug 12, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fluent works too
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fluent
:)
I still think Alves would do best to use his kicks vs Diaz. And muscle him around a bit with his raw strength. Trading punches with Diaz is a no-no for anybody.
Besides Daley.....
he hasn’t faced an extremely high level striker and his striking wasn’t that good against Sakurai.
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by F'n Clownshoes on Aug 12, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
tell that to paul daley
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
no, no you got that wrong
he doesn’t train with dre, he smokes with dre!
it cant hurt to train with dre
pride never die
We've got a Smurfs movie and a Yogi the Goddamned Bear movie, but still no Arrested Development movie? Shit Hollywood. Just ... shit. - Chris Bucholz
St. Pierre is coming off one of his least inspired performances since regaining the welterweight title from Matt Serra back at UFC 83 in April 2008.
That fight was uninspiring?? He finished with knees to the body for fuck sakes!
Poor guy must fuck like dog shit
He missed a coma after performances.
by d.rok on Aug 12, 2011 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You misunderstand, I think
I don’t think Jesse was calling GSP’s win over Serra uninspiring. I think he was saying if you look at all his defenses since winning the title from Serra, the Shields defence was the least inspiring.
you're doing it wrong.
UFC 83 was exciting. all of the fights since then have been “uninspiring”. The shields fight being the worst of the list.
thats what he’s saying.
Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.
Dark Horse for the Mania Money Pool. Watch out Old Man...
ahhh gotcha
am i am dumbass, or is it worded werdily enough that its confusing?
Poor guy must fuck like dog shit
i misunderstood at first also
"This could be the worst disaster we've ever faced"
"With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour"
am i am dumbass
uhhh…yes?
The new US "debt deal" cut $2.4 trillion in deficit spending over 10 years. So instead of a $1.5 TRILLION deficit in 2012, we will only have to borrow $1.26 TRILLION to run our country into the ground. O_o
lol, you are such a good sport
The new US "debt deal" cut $2.4 trillion in deficit spending over 10 years. So instead of a $1.5 TRILLION deficit in 2012, we will only have to borrow $1.26 TRILLION to run our country into the ground. O_o
I think he meant since georges has regained the title
That was his Least inspired performance.
Drink.
Pee.
Repeat.
by DonnMcslick on Aug 12, 2011 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn you guys are quick
Drink.
Pee.
Repeat.
by DonnMcslick on Aug 12, 2011 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah the Shields fight was the only time I recall
seeing a guy get dropped with a flush headkick and not get finished or at least almost finished. Uninspiring. But GSP all the way against ND
I'm your Supa Dupa Man. Here to save you from loneliness, protect you from the words "lack of sex," make your body feel magnificent. - R. Kelly
I am sure Nick's wrestling has improved since, Chael jumped on board for a bit
Plus working with Jake Shields and Gilbert Melendez aswell. His striking is damn good but he’s gotta to have it at it’s best to even stay in contention with GSP. He’s aggressive and if he can puch Ward and Ward push him then that’ll give him a mental toughness increase.
I know Nick has been embarassed by wrestler’s with less statue in the 170 division then GSP but his striking was different, his confidence was different. His striking is ten times more fluid and his ground game is still crazy.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Aug 12, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
GPSP is not goign to stand with Diaz, this wil lbe a on the ground all night. Godd thing about that is that Diaz is a prodigy on the ground. Cant fuckign wait for this fight, Diaz with the victory round 3 submission via “WHOA DID THAT JUST HAPPEN?”
Bring back the Chute Boxe of old!!!
i see Nick by Kimura aswell.
"with a good physique and explosiveness anybody can perform a takedown"
-RoBerto
by Lesnar's striking coach on Aug 12, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No it's going to be:
HE’S GOT AN ARMBAR MIKE, AN ARM… he let it go
HE’S GOT A GUILLOTINE, HE JUST HAS TO… he let it go
HE’S GOT A… and he’s out
GSP UD
easiest pick in the pool. Picked it the second it was added.
Poor guy must fuck like dog shit
Easy UD for GSP
His gymnastics training will just be too much for Nick
I'm your Supa Dupa Man. Here to save you from loneliness, protect you from the words "lack of sex," make your body feel magnificent. - R. Kelly
how can any of u say gsp boxin is better
When was the last time gsp finishd someone with it to show its better. .. and dont foeget he
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 1:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
has been training with chael a very strong wrestler
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dont forgot
Jake spent the entire training camp with Chael
it meant absolutly fuck all
Poor guy must fuck like dog shit
did jake shoot more than once?
i honestly blocked that shit off my memory
pride never die
We've got a Smurfs movie and a Yogi the Goddamned Bear movie, but still no Arrested Development movie? Shit Hollywood. Just ... shit. - Chris Bucholz
i dont think so
he completely abandoned the ground game which was insanity on his behalf
Poor guy must fuck like dog shit
abandoning ground game
Got him a win in 2 rounds on the scorecards. 1 more round and Shields would have been walking out with the belt that night. He faired better than GSPs past 5 opponents or so.
jake fought a stupid fight he didn't shoot more then twice
Nick will not b lost in the cage like jake lookd
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It will be a better fight because unlike Shields, Koscheck and Hardy,
Diaz will be there to win. He won’t be satisfied with just surviving like GSP’s recent opponents were.
Shields never eyepokes his opponent, so why all of a sudden is he throwing eyepokes every round against a guy he knows he can’t takedown?? Highly suspicious.
Two_Words.
And that's the word.
It meant fuck all?
He wasn’t able 2 keep the fight standing & win a couple rounds ?
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
did GSP try to take him down?>
no. so him “being able to keep the fight standing” was the easiest thing he ever did
i honestly dont think Jake won a round, regardless of what the judges say. and we all know why he “won” a few rds.
Poor guy must fuck like dog shit
GSP should have taken him down...
atleast once, he really underestimated his own grappling in that fight, i think he could hang with sheilds on the mat.
or not
I like bacon...
#1 Quinton Rampage the Dragon Slayer Jackson fan for LIFE..FTW!!! Nick Diaz would mop the floor with GSP and the fight with Sheilds confirms it!!!
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yes
By what though… i wonder
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tko or choke after he rocks'm!
No escaping pain
You belong to me
Clinging on to life
By the skin o' my teeth
tko from strikes while applying the rape choke
Thats more like it
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He shouldn't be concentrating on boxing or wrestling more so than
His jits because despite his advantage in the punching department , gsp and his camp will nullify it with their gameplan , and regardless of how much wrestling he trains gsp will put him on his ass repeatedly .
Therefore he needs to watch tape on gsps tendencies on the mat and exhaust his technique and fluidity in any submission that could be effective against gsp and his ground positioning and strong body .
by wooly shambler on Aug 12, 2011 1:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
u might as well coach him all those great tips im sure nobody knows about
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He wouldn't listen to me
He’s too busy thinking he’s a hard ass and smoking weed and making stupid faces in photos and training with Andre ward
by wooly shambler on Aug 12, 2011 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
there is ur problem if u we're smokin as well he would listen to ya i actually met and smoked with him and a mutual friend before the cyborg fight
But y u dissin him about smokin anybody that smokes like him And has that kind of cardio is really gifted..don’t b jelous
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I love Nick Diaz too
but take your time and type shit out right bro
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
its the cell phone. i try to post to fast forget the lil things
Dont b a fking grammer nazi dude
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 3:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this is going to be a good fight...
Wrestling advantage GSP
BJJ advantage Diaz
Use of hand advantage Diaz
Use of legs advantage GSP
Strength advantage GSP
Cardio pick ‘em
Chin/toughness advantage Diaz
It’s a pretty even fight…it’ll depend on how much GSP can impose his wrestling on Diaz…if Nick can get negate damage from his back while keeping GSP honest with submission attempts…will be a really good fight…on the feet I have to imagine GSP will work on chopping Nick’s legs down…while Nick will use his length, continuous punching, and chin to take chances…which will open things up…can’t wait.
the only trouble is
everything Nick can do<GSPs wrestling.Its just so good it will neutralize everything nick does.Great for GSP and his fans real bad as a spectacle.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
That's why Nick shouldn't be boxing with Ward, but sitting under Shields, Henderson-Style, for hours a day.
After many years of savoring the sweet taste of Fedor’s gizz, it seems that some has shot into my eyes, thus blinding me into thinking Fedor could finish a legend like Dan Henderson, who has never been Ko’d in 36 fights. As always, Dana White had it right all along. Dana truly is God’s gift to Mixed Martial Arts.
all i care about is the craziness...
at the weigh ins and press conf, i hope the crazy nick diaz shows up instead of the calm and collected one against paul daley, i dont wanna see any of that i respect you crap from either guy, especially not nick.
a contest that saw a much-improved jab and flinty footwork.
. . . GSP’s jab was always there. See fights against Fitch & Alves.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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VEe is ANIMated!
true
but it really came into its own against kos, if the doctor present was the same as fedor/bigfoot fight, he’d have stopped that fight, look at the damage fedor received before it was stopped, he already fought once since then, kos is still nursing his wound, negligent doctor is negligent!
well in that case if a japanese ref called the fight in japan
Gsp would get yellow card everytime
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh yeah?
Gsp vs kos2 was in canada
NICK DIAZ.... champ 2011
by 209stk on Aug 12, 2011 3:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
still irrelevant!
i am talking about real world possibilities, you are talking about a rule followed by a now defunct organization. st peirre will never fight in japan, unless ufc goes there.
That's when you know the guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
He is constantly pushing, passing guard or punching when on the ground. It’s weird someone would say he is inactive on the ground.
Shields never eyepokes his opponent, so why all of a sudden is he throwing eyepokes every round against a guy he knows he can’t takedown?? Highly suspicious.
Two_Words.
And that's the word.
yh but it all looks so contrived,scripted even
full guard to half guard to side control to half guard to full guard repeat
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
diaz all the way......
you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope your fucking happy...........
by freedomthrtyfve on Aug 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
Wow Cesar is an idiot. He should just forget about standup for this camp.
If GSP doesn’t get Diaz down within 30 seconds of every round, he is not making it out of the third. But he will take him down and keep him there while watching the clock.
Diaz should be on his back this entire training camp, working on subs, sweeps and elbows from the bottom.
WAR DIAZ!
After many years of savoring the sweet taste of Fedor’s gizz, it seems that some has shot into my eyes, thus blinding me into thinking Fedor could finish a legend like Dan Henderson, who has never been Ko’d in 36 fights. As always, Dana White had it right all along. Dana truly is God’s gift to Mixed Martial Arts.
diaz is probably training with this guy for about 15% of his training week.........
when you go to the gym you just don’t train your biceps do you, you train your other muscles aswell don’t you. mma training is the same, you don’t just train your boxing, you train your other diciplines aswell…………
you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope your fucking happy...........
by freedomthrtyfve on Aug 12, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
this guy does
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
he does his triceps as well i think........
but i would have to study the image closer to be 100% sure…………
you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope your fucking happy...........
by freedomthrtyfve on Aug 12, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i remember there was a doc on him
it was aptly titled “the guy whos armed exploded!” lol.I think his name was Greg Valentino and he did a bit of time for steroid peddling.
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
arms damn Carlsberg Export is kicking in
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
red stripe is my tipple of choice this evening.....
and scrumpy jack….
you idiots have turned me into a troll, i hope your fucking happy...........
by freedomthrtyfve on Aug 12, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
red stripe lovely stuff
definitely better than breaker which was the toss up jamaican drink for a while.Scrumpy jack is ace as well,massive fan of cider,am absolutely disgusted how far downhill strongbow has gone! Hope u are not doing the same glass shit! lol
"ever heard of a tune up? tee hee hee hee
"ah hee hee hee ever heard of a ritual killing? tee hee hee hee"
"i dont get it"
"you gnaw on her face in public like that again and you'll be one tee hee hee hee"
Those who say this will not benefit Diaz don't know jack...
…Obviously Diaz isn’t afraid of getting taken down, he’s very confident in his jits….we saw with Shields that someone who is confident off their back and not afraid to go after it on the feet can compete with GSP…for Shields though he wasn’t good enough on the feet….Diaz is making a smart decision to sharpen his boxing for this fight…this fight will be won on the feet.
Fedor "The Can Crusher" Emeilianko IS NOT THE BEST HW EVER , in fact he sucks! he has the most padded record in the history of any combat sport, scratch that in the history of any sport. He has not changed as a fighter , he is still just as good as he was then, only difference is he isn’t fighting freaks and nobodies, I , along with many others have been duped into believing he is great, when clearly he is NOT!
Diaz will help Ward prepare for Froch
Diaz will be a good sparring partner to help Ward train for Froch cause I am pretty sure Froch is going to try to turn the super six final into a street fight. On the contrary I don’t think Diaz training with Ward helps Diaz at all.
this could actually be helpful
I don’t follow boxing too closely, and don’t know Ward’s style too well, but someone mentioned up there that he clinches a lot? That could actually be really helpful for Diaz.
Remember the last GSP Penn fight? GSP wanted to clinch up for a lot of the fight, tiring out Penn’s shoulders and his ability to throw that stiff jab. This could be GSP’s game plan in this bout as well.
Remember that GSP didn’t want to take it to the ground against Shields, he probably won’t want to against Diaz also. And Diaz’s stand up is probably as good as any opponent GSP has seen since Penn.
If they recognize that GSP is a master planner, and counter that with Diaz working his combinations out of the clinch, they could really be on to something here.
I don’t know, I’m kinda pulling this out of my ass. I’m rooting for Diaz here, even though I think GSP takes a UD. But I just hope it’s as exciting as I think it’s gonna be.
GSP's gonna destroy Diaz. Duh!!!
Jab fuck him for a while, and then as soon as Diaz starts to rain in punches, down to the mat they will go. Diaz will not submit GSP.
Gonna be awesome!!! OOOOHHHHH!!!!!
Nick Diaz has as much of a chance at beating GSP as George W. Bush becoming re-elected for a third term...
I hate Bloodyelbow!!
Gonna be awesome!!! OOOOHHHHH!!!!!
After many years of savoring the sweet taste of Fedor’s gizz, it seems that some has shot into my eyes, thus blinding me into thinking Fedor could finish a legend like Dan Henderson, who has never been Ko’d in 36 fights. As always, Dana White had it right all along. Dana truly is God’s gift to Mixed Martial Arts.
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